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You would just have to find ways to mention the demo, so I try to switch up the phrasing (“This is shown in the demo when…”, “…as seen in the demo”). Posters and cover arts can also be cited for design tropes.

So, Mechamato is up and launched now, and the sandbox cut. Just two more questions:

1) Should it still be on Future Works? The film is pending release and it was supposed to before the series before the pandemic problems kicked in. Then again, info on the movie could be lumped with the main page and since the series is out, it no longer has to be on that sandbox.

2) Under what folder should the show go on in Cartoon Network? At first I assumed it'd be Others under Acquired Programming but now I just notice the "Foreign-affiliate produced series/films and co-productions" folder. Should it go under there with the sub-bullet like this?:

• Mechamato (CN Asia, 2021-present)^note Malaysian production. Asia-Pacific region.

Thanks in advance.

If I've the energy and time to then maybe. No such disambiguation has been made for BoBoiBoy, and that has two series and two movies lmao. I've been considering at least soft-splitting the examples for BBB by where they apply (be it in either series or movie) but I've also other projects in mind to do here.

Edited by BlackFaithStar on Mar 15th 2022 at 1:52:51 AM

Wouldn't the film get its own separate page from the series?

Wasn't sure where to ask this question, but I'm planning to make a work page for Usotsuki Satsuki Shi ga Mieru (it's sitting over on my sandbox page under Liar Satsuki Sees Death, for the sake of peer review). I'd go ahead and do it, but in the off-chance this ever gets an official English release or anime adaptation or whatever, how would I handle redirects? Would I copy everything to a page with the new English title and make the Japanese title the redirect, or would the English title be the redirect?

Edited by RacattackForce on Mar 23rd 2022 at 1:27:25 PM

Yes, if it ever gets an official English release, the page would be moved to the English title and the Japanese title would become a redirect.

I'm trying to finish writing a page on Beepa The Owl. I've been trying to find five tropes in this commercial (I have four, and I know the minimum is three, but I rarely go below five). So far I've found Cute Owl, Large Ham, Non-Mammal Mammaries, and Unraveled Entanglement, but if someone can see anything else, I'd be grateful.

Alternatively, I'd appreciate some tropes from this or this, which comes from a promotional single with the character and I couldn't find anything.

Edited by Piterpicher on Mar 26th 2022 at 1:28:08 PM

So, I was wanting to start a work page, and was unsure as to whether or not it would be allowed here.

Specifically, the work in question is Degrees of Lewdity, an HTML game by a Blogspot user by the name of Vrelnir in active development. The game is best summarized as, "Making ends meet in a Crapsack World where everything wants to rape you". While the game is sexual, and graphic at that, it would be a stretch to call it porn, especially since it isn't really treated as gratuitous. In addition, there's a plot. Not just a flimsy reason for the main character to have sex, but an actual plot: You need to meet the ever-increasing demands of your landlord, and how are you going to accomplish that without ending up on the wrong side of the law or your mind? There's also nothing that could be considered pedophilic; all characters are both explicitly and implicitly stated to be of age.

I'm not linking the site here for obvious reasons, but I would appreciate feedback as to whether or not a work page would be allowed.

That question would be easier to answer either here or here.

Edited by Amonimus on Mar 30th 2022 at 8:06:40 PM

Hello everyone, first time in this thread.

I recently made a page for the fanfic I'm Nobody and I would like some help with proofreading it. I usually ask on ATT with help for that sort of thing (I know I always miss stuff) but last time I asked someone suggested I try out this thread instead so here I am. I'm looking for spelling, grammar and phrasing errors, as well as example misuses. If anyone feels like adding examples, you are obviously more than welcome.

From a skim I see some zero/partial context examples. A few examples from the first part:

Basically you can't use "is this" for context, you can't point to the title for context, and (as this is a fanfic) you can't assume familiarity with the source material will be enough for context (eg. from Pop-Cultural Osmosis I know the Organization are the villains of Kingdom Hearts, but that's not enough).

Edited by Synchronicity on May 4th 2022 at 10:45:04 AM

There is a thread specifically for proofreading, right here, but for the sake of not sending you on any further needless journeys, sure, I can proofread it!

But... this is a fanfic. Shouldn't it be reasonable to assume that people who check out this fanfic page are familiar with at least one of the works involved? After all, Most Fanfic Writers Are Fans.

Thanks.

Edited by Lermis on May 4th 2022 at 7:04:20 PM

The rule is that "redundancy is better than zero context", and that applies to Fanwork pages needing explanation too

Nope (and this applies to all work pages; fanfic especially is not special). You are not writing for the subset of readers who read Kingdom Hearts fanfic, nor are you writing for Kingdom Hearts fans. You're writing for everyone who reads TV Tropes.

I personally like to think about it as "writing for the TRS cleanup editor". If someone who just wants to dewick a trope without caring where it's from reads your examples, is there enough for them to keep or axe?

Edited by Synchronicity on May 4th 2022 at 11:10:20 AM

My own rule of thumb is "too much is better than too little". This occasionally makes my entries long, but makes sure lack of context shouldn't be an issue.

Not that this is a guarantee, mind you. I've seen entries that say a lot without providing context of the trope.

If it helps, my other rule of thumb is "write as if any potential reader will have no idea what you're talking about"

Edited by sgamer82 on May 4th 2022 at 9:18:06 AM

I'll fix this then. Thanks for clarifying.

EDIT: Fixed the examples that Synchronicity pointed out, though I haven't removed Crossover Ship. Would Official Couple be better?

Edited by Lermis on May 4th 2022 at 7:24:36 PM

Crossover Ship can have context by simply adding which different works the characters are from. I think despite being YMMV, it can be added to a fanfic page as an example of the YMMV item in one specific fanwork.

Hey guys,

I'm doing a Literature page for Jeremy Robinson's Space Force but there's already a Space Force page.

What's the protocol for that? List the author first?

Definitely not, that'd mess with alphabetization. You'd put this one at Literature.Space Force 2018, most likely.

Yes. Literature.Spaceforce would then have to be moved.

Edited by Synchronicity on May 25th 2022 at 10:58:06 AM

Thanks. Very helpful.

OK, I'm actually trying to figure out if ^^ should be Darthed instead, but Literature.Space Force 2018 would still be the best place to put it since Series.Space Force 2020 exists.

Sounds good.

Edit:

Penelope Irvings books have been taken down by the author as well and are no longer available as ebooks (or in any other format).

Edited by CharlesPhipps on May 25th 2022 at 9:46:26 AM

The website is def dead, the twitter is basically dead, and the only thing from a google is the goodreads profile, but I think these are those books on amazon, just under a different author name for whatever reason. So saved from Darthification for now and Space Force gets to be a disambig once (2018) is up.

They are apparently now renamed STAR CRIME.

Cool, thanks for the heads up. I'll post a link for review after I do the page and hopefully folks can give it a once over before I start indexing.

:)

Edited by CharlesPhipps on May 25th 2022 at 9:56:27 AM