Disambiguating Works / Subpage Collision Discussion

I've put that one on the cutlist

Fanfic.Growing Pains My Little Pony. No reason to abbreviate.

Moved. Thanks for the feedback!

Moving Film.Her to Film.Her 2013, wicks are all moved.

Edited by MegaJ on May 9th 2021 at 1:22:59 PM

There are four different works named The Chase. Proposed renames (they will be custom titled accordingly):

• Film.The Chase -> Film.The Chase 1994
• Advertising.The Chase -> Advertising.The Chase Pepsi or Advertising.Michael Jacksons The Chase
• Series.The Chase -> Series.The Chase Game Show (can't use the year because it covers multiple versions from various years)
• Fanfic.The Chase -> Fanfic.The Chase My Little Pony ?

EDIT: And it's a trope name? Jeez!

Edited by mightymewtron on May 12th 2021 at 6:16:17 AM

All that's fine to move.

That's not Cha$e (game show)?

Nope, that page even points out that it has nothing to do with the British game show.

I'm a lil overwhelmed recently so IDK if I'll have the time to migrate all the pages and fix all the wicks right now.

Edited by mightymewtron on May 12th 2021 at 6:52:29 AM

Did we ever get an answer on whether the Series.Missing redirect should be cut? I'm thinking that it should...

Fix the wicks, first. That redirect has a thousand inbounds. Normally we'd be good to just cut, but in this case, let's change the target to the Main/ disambiguation, please.

On the subject of The Chase, it appears that Ordeaux26 has already moved each of the four pages to the suggested names. (I personally think that Series.Chase Game Show should be moved to Series.Chase 2008, since the current name invites confusion with Series.The Chase Game Show.)

The page covers multiple versions of the game show that were made in different years. NVM you meant the other game show, not the recently moved page.

Edited by mightymewtron on May 13th 2021 at 4:14:46 AM

I don't really want to move it as I have already done a lot today but if you want to I don't see a problem.

I went ahead and did so.

Honestly, I don't think you need to worry about that. Maybe you could have added a "you may be looking for" note or whatever, but a "The" at the beginning should generally be enough to distinguish pages.

If there are two works in the exact same genre with the same name excepting the presence of a definite article, the disambiguation should probably be used. That's what disambiguation was meant for.

Well, Literature.Pyrates and Literature.The Pyrates had no issue (both are Adventure Literature, so the same genre applies). I really think there should have been no issue with Series.Chase Game Show and Series.The Chase Game Show either. Like, there are no problems with subpage collision, none with alphabetisation either, maybe some confusion that can be quickly resolved with a notice.

Edited by Piterpicher on May 14th 2021 at 7:52:35 PM

Technically they occupy the same space for alphabetization since we ignore articles.

Not quite. Howto Alphabetisethings says "If the only difference between the titles is an article at the beginning, then the title without the article goes first — so Arrival goes before TheArrival."

Edited by Piterpicher on May 14th 2021 at 8:09:28 PM

The musician Oliver! has an incorrect custom title due to collision with the musical and film Oliver!.

Apparently there is also a music duo called Oliver, so I'd disambiguate the musician.

Just disambiguated some pages titled "Quarantine".

Film.Quarantine —> Film.Quarantine 2008
VideoGame.Quarantine —> VideoGame.Quarantine 1994
Literature.Quarantine —> Literature.Quarantine 1992

But how should RolePlay.Quarantine be disambig'd? It's behind a login, and I can't find any concrete date for when it started. It has a website that says "Copyright 2011", but that doesn't necessarily mean that's when the RP started.

Roleplay.Quarantine Neopets?

Edited by Primis on Jun 1st 2021 at 2:28:03 AM

According to the Neopets page:

It doesn't look like it has anything to do with Neopets other than being hosted on the site, so I'd go with Roleplay.Quarantine 2011.

Alright, sounds good. I've moved it.

Coming from this ATT thread, I was asked to bring my issue here.

So, the issue is, I want to create a page for Freedom Fighters, a Super Mario Bros. Z-inspired sprite-based Fan Animation crossover of Sonic the Hedgehog and Freedom Planet. However, there is not one, but TWO unrelated works that share the same name: a comic book and a video game.

So, the question is, what should I do in this case?
Should I hard-split the two work pages, and then create my desired one under the new name?
Or just create another unrelated work page under the same name, making it three unrelated works sharing a title?
Or should I create my desired work page under a different name, like WebAnimation.Freedom Fighters Sonic Freedom Planet (by source works) or WebAnimation.Freedom Fighters Martanis IV (by author's name)?

By the way, if the answer is hard-split, then I already have a suggestion for the new page titles:

• ComicBook.Freedom Fighters —> ComicBook.Freedom Fighters DC
• VideoGame.Freedom Fighters —> VideoGame.Freedom Fighters 2003

Oh, okay. Fixed.

Edited by I--Vanya--I on Jun 2nd 2021 at 5:28:25 PM