Rule Of Cautious Editing Judgment - Violations, misuse, and other issues

More Popular Spin Off doesn't signal anything about morality or quality. It just means more people know it. Whether these actually fit the definition is another matter, but I don't think ROCEJ is the issue here.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

I don't know about ROCEJ, but that feels really, really shoehorned.

The entire real life section on More Popular Spin Off feels kind of forced in regards to geographical locations being considered 'spin-offs' of locations that inspired their names, but it's nothing really worth complaining about.

Describing terrorist groups in the Middle East as 'more popular spin-offs' of ISIL seems like an absolutely gigantic yikes though. Looks like someone already deleted all of the terrorism-specific examples though.

I deleted them because nrj said they were misuse.

Rawr.

Found this on Real Life:

• In early 2021, after a group of protestors contesting the 2020 election looted the United States Capitol, President Trump's online presence was effectively erased by every mainstream social networking site for accusations of "inciting violence" in spite of his (admittedly extremely weak) condemnation of their actions. This led to much controversy due to the precedent it was setting as well as the fact that several other figures who had incited violence, such as the Head of the Chechen Republic Ramzan Kadyrov who led anti-gay purges in Chechnya, were allowed to keep their accounts.

Banning from social media isn't the same as scrubbing every reference ever made to them anyway.

SoundCloud

Cut that. It's written in a really weird tone.

"That's right mortal. By channeling my divine rage into power, I have forged a new instrument in which to destroy you."

For RT (as well as MSNBC, CNN, and Fox News), I don't see why they're tropeable. They're not comedians who satirically riff on the news, they're professional journalists. We don't have a page on the New York Times, don't we?

Rock'n'roll never dies!

We do have Useful Notes pages on newspapers, which is what the news networks should probably be. I have no idea why they're Creator pages.

But does RT deserve a Useful Notes page? Is it frequently or even occasionally referenced in fictional media?

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I don't think any of these things deserve Useful Notes articles. How does knowing what CNN is help with people writing stories?

Edited by WarJay77 on Feb 4th 2021 at 8:31:03 AM

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I think I'd be less in favor of giving them individual pages than mirroring, say, American Newspapers by creating a American Network News page.

(That said, my point is more that the current practice of treating ostensibly nonfiction TV news networks as Creators is wrong.)

Oh, definitely wrong.

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I'm in favor of that idea. An American Network News page to replace the current news network pages. That sounds good.

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Real life news channels should be treated the same way real life sports are.

Kirby is awesome.

Found this on UnusualEuphemism.Real Life:

• "The boogaloo" is a Deadly Euphemism for a hypothetical race war, predicted by an American Right-Wing Militia Fanatic movement that coalesced in late 2019 and rose to further prominence the following year in the protests surrounding the COVID-19 Pandemic and anti-Black Police Brutality. The nickname arose on 4chan after people coined the phrase "Civil War 2: Electric Boogaloo" to refer to a potential Second American Civil War.

Pretty sure it's over the line. And that's just the tip of the iceberg; there are a metric ton of NRLEP tropes and potholes all over that page.

Oy vey...

Edited by SkyCat32 on Feb 7th 2021 at 10:48:19 AM

Rawr.

You said it. Should I take Unusual Euphemism to the NRLEP thread?

Yea, and while you are at it, Boris Johnson needs a hedge trimmer.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Feb 7th 2021 at 11:00:58 AM

Rawr.

Holy Toledo, looks like the same mindset that plagued Biden's page has spread. What is it with politicians and Wikipedia length description around here?

Edit: Unfortunately, I have no idea where to start on said trim job. I will inform the Useful Notes cleanup thread, though.

Edited by Theatre_Maven_3695 on Feb 7th 2021 at 11:22:00 AM

From Death by Irony:

During the COVID-19 Pandemic, there have been a number of people who had discredited the virus' seriousness and wound up dying from the very thing they called a hoax.

Even if this isn't a violation, aren't COVID 19 examples banned?

They are also general examples.

Rawr.

Plus careless people can also die from illnesses that aren't specifically COVID.

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

I feel like a lot of Banned in China examples describe the country's laws and politics in a pretty contentious manner. For example, I just removed a chunk from the Malaysia subpage that went off topic from South Park to describe how Malaysian students get radicalized, and there's a few wicks to items like Heteronormative Crusader and Insane Troll Logic to describe real people.

Edited by mightymewtron on Feb 8th 2021 at 8:44:39 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.

Sammettik removed this example from Fun with Autocensors with the edit reason "Site is run by a neo-nazi. Not a good fit for this wiki."

• The lolcow forum Kiwi Farms changes "retarded" to "exceptional", "retard" to "exceptional individual", "ween"^note wannabe troll to "I HAVE AUTISM PLEASE LAUGH AT ME", and "Jews" to "Trump's Chosen People".

Is this a valid removal? There are other controversial websites on the page, and IMO this is comparable to examples from P5-banned works being allowed on trope pages as long as the examples themselves are clean.

Keet cleanup