"No Recent Examples Please" cleanup

The 25-year requirement is hidden in a comment, so a lot of people ignore don't see it.

I edited the Administrivia page to add the 10-month wait for NeverLiveItDown.Sports and clarified that the limit on Unintentional Period Piece can be bypassed in exceptional circumstances. Both being omitted from that page have already caused problems when people took its word (in the former's case, applying NLID/RealLife to sports) as gospel.

Added in NeverLiveItDown.Sports

• Paul George of the Oklahoma City Thunder is the one who failed to block Damien Lillard's spectacular last-second 3 point shot that eliminated Thunder from the playoffs. This in itself wouldn't be so bad, but George ensured no one would forget it by being an incredible sore loser, complaining after the game that the shot was somehow illegal (and refusing to explain exactly how).

If I'm not mistaken, the incident is very recent.

Whack it.

Should Seasonal Rot wait for a certain period?

I brought up that The Scrappy should have a six-month wait period on the previous page and a few others agreed to it. Should I create a crowner?

I added this example from Mortal Kombat 11 to CommonKnowledge.Video Games, but I'm not sure if it's too recent or not, and regret adding it.

• Shortly after the release of Mortal Kombat 11, a rumor started circulating that obtaining all Kosmetics within a reasonable timeframe would require over 6000$ in microtransactions. This figure was obtained by taking the total amount of Kosmetics in the game and multiplying it by 5 (a skin in the shop costs 500 Time Krystals, which can be purchased with real money for 5$), ignoring that only a small amount of Kosmetics are available in the store each day and that most Kosmetics cannot be bought from the store, but it remained common among critics of the game even after it was disproven.

Did I make a mistake adding this or is it fine?

YMMV.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic IDW Issue 75 To 78

• They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Many fans find the idea of Cosmos, a former associate or lover of Discord who returns to cause trouble, intriguing, as Discord having to face off with someone similar to his past, evil self could be a compelling story. However, rather than explore this idea, Cosmos is used to make Discord Good All Along and excuse his evil past, and is found to be a rather bland and forgettable villain.

I intend to remove since the story is ongoing and might happen in the final issue. Any objections?

I do agree with The Scrappy having a waiting period, but six months seems to be a bit too long.

How long do you think, then?

Two weeks is the other widely used waiting period, but that's for Complete Monster and other trope so contentious or miserable that all examples have to be approved, which seems even more drastic. (FYI confusing CM and Scrappy was a reason for now requiring approval.)

On The Scrappy, how about a month or 2?

When would the clock be started for episodic works?

I was thinking two weeks, or a month. More than two months feels like it would be a drastic measure.

A month, I would say.

Should something similar happen with any of the following?

• Alas, Poor Scrappy
• Ethnic Scrappy
• Replacement Scrappy
• Rescued from the Scrappy Heap
• Scrappy Mechanic

When their story is concluded for the foreseeable future.

The six month waiting period was since Base-Breaking Character requires six months and is incomparable with Scrappy, it would be a waste to label them Scrappy only to cut them if they're deemed BBC later.

If Scrappy has a shorter waiting period, how'd we avoid this?

Edited by Ferot_Dreadnaught on May 3rd 2019 at 3:44:56 AM

When would be a good time to add Critical Dissonance to the UglyDolls YMMV page? The movie just released officially today, but there is a very staggering leap between the critics and the audience, so I wasn't sure how long would be a good "waiting time". I brought this up on Ask the Tropers, but was redirected to here to suggest it.

Atleast 2 weeks? At least until the reviews have settled.

All right, I'll wait until then.

Isn't Contested Sequel kind of like a Sub-Trope of Broken Base, where the Base is the entire fandom of the whole franchise, and the Break is over whether the sequel is better or worse than the previous instalment? Obviously, when a new work is released, every fan will be discussing it and comparing it to the rest of the series, leading to many knee-jerk reactions which a waiting period could help avoid.

I always thought Contested Sequel can use a similar time limit to Broken Base, due to both Audience Reactions being related and Contested Sequel has also been used for knee-jerk reactions.

If we give Contested Sequel a waiting period, I think we should do the same for Even Better Sequel and Sequelitis so fans can settle on a general opinion. I've seen a lot of films added as a Contested Sequel and one of the other sequel tropes for various reasons, and a waiting period on all three should help matters.

Good point, all of the "is this sequel better or worse?" Audience Reactions should require a waiting period, it wouldn't make sense to only have that requirement for one of them.

YMMV.Godzilla The Planet Eater has all three which doesn't make qny sense.

So, Never Live It Down has a waiting period for Real Life examples, 10 years for sports and 25 for everything else. But I think I found a subpage that skirts around this waiting period.

The Web Original subpage is mostly focused on content producers and real-life drama they've caused that's still relatively recent. Obviously, there's a fine-line between the work and the creator for some entries, but it's more clear-cut for others.

For example, a Let's Player doing something stupid while playing a game or a reviewer having a controversial opinion? That's probably okay to keep, as that's part of the work itself. Something like companies exploiting their workers, people being abusers off-camera, or Reddit AMA threads? Those are definitely real-life examples that should have a waiting period.

If we do list BTS stuff like that, what should the waiting period be? Most of these are less than a decade old, so our waiting periods we do have in place would mean these entries can't be listed. But would a moratorium of say five years be too short? Or should we just keep entries focused on the works itself, and file everything else as real-life examples?

I honestly think all out-of-universe examples for Never Live It Down should be at least ten years old per example, just to avoid stuff like "this work will probably be forever tarnished by something that happened a year ago".