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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
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The Big Man
I need some ideas to describe the webcomic known as Kaza's Mate Gwenna. Any ideas?
Edited by TCmon on Dec 15th 2022 at 8:15:35 AM
Brutal
- "Wacky adventures in the jungle with sexy Nature Heroes"? add more words as needed??
The Big Man
I have to ask: Have you read the webcomic?
By the way, the laconic sounds good, but I think it needs more emphasizing.
Edited by TCmon on Dec 15th 2022 at 10:02:46 AM
Brutal
- Never read, just worked from the description.
Industrious Incisors
Laconic.Fence Painting: Tricking others into making something mundane look awesome.
That is not the trope. My proposal:
Tricking others into doing something most would not want to do by making it seem like something they'd want to do.
SoundCloud
The Big Man
How about this?
The Golden age style adventures of a jungle-dwelling couple fighting evil...in the buff.
Edited by TCmon on Dec 15th 2022 at 5:45:53 AM
Brutal
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- More informative, at least. Not sure if I like "golden age", since it's as common a phrase?
Quintesson Prosecutor
I have only the vaguest idea of what Wing Pull is trying to say, but its laconic is useless.
It currently reads "Yeah, he pretty much pulled those wings out of his ass."
How can this be fixed?
All universes shall be judged.
- Sudden reveal of wings, only when necessary for the plot?
Quintesson Prosecutor
Tweaked it a bit.
"A character suddenly reveals a means of flight only when necessary for the plot."
All universes shall be judged.
Now we're so young, but we're probably gonna die
Here's a few I pulled from my To-Do List and Related searches that need improvement. I'm not familiar with any of these works.
- The Blackout Club
- CthulhuTech
- A Cure for Wellness
- Earth Defense Force 2017
- Earth Defense Force 2025
Dynasty Warriors meets Starship Troopers 4
- The Flying Man
Lovecraft with Superheroes.
- Indivisible
- Mighty No. 9
- Shadow Hearts
- Shimoneta
- Sky Girls
Strike Witches with added Mini Mechas.
- Whateley Universe
Whateley: Suggestion:
"Superhumans living in a world with the Cthulhu Mythos in the background."
Edited by Malady on Dec 16th 2022 at 6:15:37 AM
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I think LGBTQ+ representation should be mentioned somewhere in the laconic, because it's a pretty large part of the work.
- Hmm, good point. LGBTQ is a good shorthand, how about this?
"LGBTQ+ superhumans living their lives with the Cthulhu Mythos in the background."
...
It's hard to fit Cthulhu Mythos and the magical pre-history. Should we cut that out, since it's not a big part?
"Stories about LGBTQ+ superteenagers at a school for mutants, and occasionally about the wider world."
That's already ~15 words.
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Laconic.Bad Bad Acting to remove much of the context and change it to just "Characters acting terribly".
This seems like a horrible oversimplification of the trope. The idea behind Bad "Bad Acting" is that it doesn't resemble real bad acting.
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
She / Her
I removed it because that wasn't mentioned on the main article. I also tweaked the page so it doesn't just come of as "bad acting" (though I tried avoiding that previously via using "terribly"), assuming that was what you're trying to avoid.
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In my further defense, Bad "Bad Acting" isn't a very complex trope.
Edited by RandomTroper123 on Apr 13th 2023 at 5:02:20 AM
Both laconics are bad. The previous was misleading, the current is way too low detail. Here's my attempt:
"When characters have to act, they're either absurdly stiff or absurdly over-emotive with no in-between."
EDIT: It's okay, you were right to replace the old one. But take it through this thread next time to make sure the replacement works.
Edited by MurlocAggroB on Dec 17th 2022 at 8:00:09 AM
The Big Man
@Malady- yeah, but at least the golden age part is more accurate.
Brutal
- Can we summarize "Golden Age style" into something else? Laconic.The Golden Age Of Animation isn't helping.
Perhaps "Zany"? "Cheap"?
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Any more thoughts on my suggestion for Laconic.Bad Bad Acting?
She / Her
I would have just used "underact" and "overact".
...
Azure Striker Gunvolt Series has a different Laconic from Azure Striker Gunvolt.
Weird that they're on different pages. Gonna talk on Disambig threads first because name weirdness.
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