For a list of bad laconics, see Sandbox.Pages Needing Better Laconics.
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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
the Retromancer
Better than what's there currently.
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Laconic.Mini Mecha currently reads "In terms of size: Powered Armor < Mini-Mecha < Humongous Mecha"
Can we rephrase this to not rely on already knowing two other tropes?
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Peeks from Under Rocks
I don' know if a good alternative will be possible. Main.Mini Mecha is also mostly built around the comparison in sizes as well.
Perhaps:
(Which just repeats the core definition of Mecha and adds a size constraint)
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She / Her
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Not sure about the first one, though the second one definitely needs to be reverted.
Here's my attempt at tweaking it because your version suggests the cockpit has to be small, when the main page suggests that isn't always the case.
Current:
If
there needs to be directly targetted, then how about something like:
"targeted for death" sounds... Campy or lame, though?
Edited by Malady on Jun 13th 2022 at 9:29:00 AM
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She / Her
Gal here who edited Family Extermination. I don't like new version and I'd just add "deliberately" (or a synonym) to the current version. What do you think?
Yeah. Not sure if "Deliberately" is the best word, but I don't know what would be. I'll edit it in if you don't know a better word.
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Angry babby
"Murders" or "slaughters" instead of "kills" perhaps?
Edited by mightymewtron on Jun 13th 2022 at 9:08:44 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Laconic.Fatal Attraction (the trope) is lacking, IMO.
Never stick it in crazy.
That just... doesn't say anything. I would suggest something but I honestly am not sure what Fatal Attraction is.
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Seems something like 'Detective's Dulcinea Effect sends him to a murderess."
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(she/her)
The description is very specific but the examples consist of any dangerous or doomed romance. Probably needs a wick check and TRS since the definition is unclear and doesn't match most of the on page examples and wicks. Either way, the laconic is terrible on all fronts.
Edited by MacronNotes on Jun 14th 2022 at 8:58:10 AM
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I’ll throw it up on the TRS Queue then. It’s only 78 wicks so I’ll check them all.
In the meantime, is there any way to improve the laconic or should we just leave it?
E: Fatal Attraction Wick Check is up
Edited by Hello83433 on Jun 14th 2022 at 2:35:23 PM
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the Retromancer
Let's try this again.
- Frankenstein (Done)
sounds good.
- Futurama (Done)
, but it's missing the setting.
- Stern Chase (Done)
.
- Lost Technology (Done)
.
, as "becoming god" plot isn't revealed until half-way through and the player can opt to not do that.
- The Man Behind the Curtain (Done)
- Mother 3 (Done)
- Stargate SG-1 (Done)
- Aaahh!!! Real Monsters (Done)
- Toriko (Done)
Edited by Amonimus on Jun 29th 2022 at 4:38:20 PM
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She / Her
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To all those suggestions, though I want to note a few things.
I would use the second thing you suggested for Indian Burial Ground and add "ancient" as the main page states that that's part of the trope.
For Leave No Survivors, I would make it clearer that it's a Stock Phrase spoken by a villain.
I would move the current description for Public Service Announcement to the "unabridged gag" at the bottom when you put in your new description.
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Trying to come up with one for Natural End of Time (currently blank), best we can think of is "Existence has a lifespan", but it feels not quite accurate, like it's merely describing the fact when the trope is about actually addressing it in some way.
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Physics-predicted end of the universe?
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She / Her
The other day, someone started an Edit War on Practically Joker via adding "or Captain Ersatz" when there's nothing on the main page stating that the trope can apply if the character is a Captain Ersatz of The Joker. Would it be ok if I remove that detail?
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Think this is gonna fall back into the question of if Expy and Captain Ersatz are meaningfully distinct, honestly.
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She / Her
While the two Tropes are similar, I think we should go with what the main page says and it suggests Practically Joker involves the character being an Expy.
She / Her
On second thought, how about this alternative?
Angry babby
I'm against that because A) it doesn't explain what "similar to The Joker" means for non-fans and B) "similar to" feels vague enough to invite a bunch more Expy shoehorns.
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the Retromancer
A clown-themed villain with Mysterious Past and love for destruction.
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Should I revert I Just Want to Have Friends back to this?