For a list of bad laconics, see Sandbox.Pages Needing Better Laconics.
For generally accepted guidelines for laconics, see Sandbox.Laconic Wiki Template.
Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:
Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.
The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:
The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.
So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?
Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM
Lucas the Dreamer
Here’s the current description for Spyro Enter The Dragon Fly
Officially intimidated
Not a fan of either, I'm afraid. ![[tdown]](https://static.tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pub/images/Thumbs_down_emoticon_3571.png "[thumb down]"){kind=small}
I would suggest a laconic that simply focuses on the game's premise, rather than its infamous out-of-universe aspects.
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I agree; its reputation does not matter for the laconic.
I'm helping!
Basically ++ what MyFinalEdits said
Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
Lucas the Dreamer
the Retromancer
Laconic.Non Sequitur: "Comes out of nowhere and wanna go get drunk next weekend?"
I feel using a self-demonstration is not a good way to explain something, the link space is usually reserved for that.
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
Lucas the Dreamer
Changed it to this.
Is the trope really limited to conversations?
"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
the Retromancer
Laconic.Malaproper: "The ward sounds wrought, but isn't."
I feel dumb, but because it's also self-demonstrating I'm not sure what the joke is.
Edited by Amonimus on Aug 2nd 2021 at 10:24:42 PM
TroperWall / WikiMagic Cleanup
"The word sounds right, but isn't"
Edited by Eiryu on Aug 2nd 2021 at 11:18:23 AM
Angry babby
I think only one word should self demonstrate, if any of them do. I'd say keep "ward."
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Not for me.
"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Laconic.Wide Eyed Idealist is as follows:
Rose-colored glasses. Jade-colored world.
It also has the following unabridged statement:
Can I suggest the following replacement:
A character whose idealism is portrayed as naïve or doomed to emphasise the harshness of the setting.
Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 2nd 2021 at 3:13:47 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Angry babby
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And cut that chained sinkhole in the bottom line, or at least replace it all with Troll or Internet Jerk.
Edited by mightymewtron on Aug 2nd 2021 at 10:18:12 AM
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Friday Night Funkin' Minus has two laconics; one describes the general concept and the other describes the plot, not sure which to keep.
I've changed Laconic.Wide Eyed Idealist. I had a think about what to do with the unabridged line, but cut the second sentence in the end. No matter how I worded it, it just felt more like a Take That! instead of demonstrating the trope.
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My instinct would be to try and combine the two into a single (concise) entry. I'm not familiar with the work, however, so I don't know if that's feasible.
I think a previous post
of mine got accidentally overlooked, so I'm reposting it here:
Laconic.RWBY went through this thread in the past, but I randomly just thought of a way to trim down its length:
The current laconic:
Suggested replacement:
Edited to add:
Laconic.Sense 8 is this:
It's misusing Surprisingly Realistic Outcome. The final sentence is really saying "Plot occurs". I was thinking of changing it to this:
Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 3rd 2021 at 12:30:28 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Officially intimidated
~The Living Drawing: Sorry for the late reply, but your second suggestion ("Ripto returns and scatters the Dragonflies. Spyro sets out to save them") is much better. Feel free to change the current laconic with this one.
(BTW, all it takes to ping someone is add a tilde right before the troper's page, right?)
Edited by MyFinalEdits on Aug 5th 2021 at 2:27:42 PM
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Yep. Speaking of...
~Wyldchyld (pinging you since you suggested it) does this sounds concise?
Yeah, that looks good to me.
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
Lucas the Dreamer
With how often I need to remove examples for Audience-Alienating Premise from works that didn’t bomb financially I propose rewriting the Laconic from
Lucas the Dreamer
Also I edited the Spyro: Enter the Dragonfly Laconic description.
Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Aug 6th 2021 at 9:13:34 AM
Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
I didn't get any feedback on the RWBY and Sense8 Laconics, so I went ahead and changed them (since they were Word Cruft and trope misuse edits) and linked back to this thread.
Is that okay?
Edited by Wyldchyld on Aug 6th 2021 at 2:50:38 PM
If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
I'm helping!
Sounds good to us
For the Audience-Alienating Premise, take the apostrophe out of the last “it’s”
Edited by Eiryu on Aug 6th 2021 at 9:48:09 AM
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I like that one.
Fan-Preferred Couple cleanup thread