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This is the thread to report tropes with problematic Real Life sections.

Common problems include:

Real Life sections on the wiki are kept as long as they don't become a problem. If you find an article with such problems, report it here. If it's really bad, the entire section may have to be removed. But hey, if someone feels like cleaning it up, it might be saved.

If you think an article should be filed under No Real Life Examples, Please!, then this thread is the place to discuss it. State the reasons and add it to the crowner.

edited 29th Nov '16 9:27:01 AM by Madrugada

Belfagor from Nonantola, Italy
Jul 13th 2012 at 11:01:10 AM

Added Refuge in Audacity to the crowner.

Also, the real life section of Reign of Terror isn't just filled with Natter, it reeks. I say we should just leave the Trope Namer.

edited 13th Jul '12 11:46:41 AM by Belfagor

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Jul 13th 2012 at 6:47:18 PM

But I love the RL subpage of Refuge in Audacity.

Also, can we have a moratorium on adding new things to the crowner so we can swap in a new one?

edited 13th Jul '12 6:48:50 PM by reub2000

MagBas Mag Bas from In my house
MsCC93 Welcome to Me from In your dreams <3 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Welcome to Me
Jul 15th 2012 at 7:38:19 PM

I don't think there should be any real life examples on Kids Are Cruel because it's too depressing...I mean do we really need to list real life examples of sad stories that occur after bullying and torture? I think the page should be like the Driven to Suicide page where there are numbers listed that you can call to talk to people and no real life examples. THINK ABOUT IT.

Jul 15th 2012 at 7:40:26 PM

[up] While that trope and Teens Are Monsters may deserve to be NRLEP, I think we're at a moratorium with regard to adding things to the crowner so we can swap in number three.

Nocturna Seeking for Light
Seeking for Light
Jul 15th 2012 at 9:00:50 PM

Actually, the crowners are ready to be swapped: everything on the current crowner has been on there for at least two days and has at least ten votes, and everything with consensus has been called.

New crowner here.

Jul 17th 2012 at 2:22:48 PM

Added Screw the Rules, I'm Doing What's Right! - I am planning to make an Analysis/ page on the topic to cover some aspects of the real life uses of the trope, but I do not feel that the stuff listed under real life really qualifies a examples of the trope, and it is devolving somewhat into thread mode.

I would like to apply NRLEP to the page. With that said, even if consensus is reached in the first 48 hours, I would also like to postpone said cut until after I have a chance to create the Analysis/ page.

Belfagor from Nonantola, Italy
Jul 17th 2012 at 4:45:21 PM

[up]Well done.

By the way, there is this "AGREATWHITESHARK" who keeps trolling and removing the No Real Life Examples Please warning every single time I place one on a page chosen in this crowner, and is generally obnoxious in doing this. How can I report it?

edited 18th Jul '12 6:56:52 AM by Belfagor

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Jul 18th 2012 at 4:17:52 PM

Ok, I'm really not sure about this one. I was slightly shocked to see that Lazy Bum has a real-life example, but when I looked at it, I realized it was listing the Sloth, an animal whose name is synonymous with the term, so—maybe that's ok? Or are we tempting fate here?

Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
MsCC93 Welcome to Me from In your dreams <3 Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Welcome to Me
Jul 18th 2012 at 4:30:09 PM

edited 22nd Jul '12 8:51:51 PM by MsCC93

Jul 18th 2012 at 7:27:05 PM

I voted for the Reign of Terror on the assumption that the Trope Namer would stay.

Belfagor from Nonantola, Italy
Jul 19th 2012 at 12:27:46 AM

[up]There is still a reference to the Trope Namer on the page, in the description. To explain how the real life section was bad, the example of the French revolution in the real life folder was:

And nothing else.

edited 19th Jul '12 2:01:36 AM by Belfagor

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Xtifr World's Toughest Milkman Relationship Status: Having tea with Cthulhu
World's Toughest Milkman
Jul 19th 2012 at 12:10:05 PM

For Witch Hunt, I went ahead and created an analysis page that, I think, probably works better than the current real-life section.

Speaking words of fandom: let it squee, let it squee.
Jul 19th 2012 at 1:21:03 PM

Okay, how are the 2 paragraphs that I just added to Reign of Terror?

Nocturna Seeking for Light
Seeking for Light
Jul 19th 2012 at 2:38:04 PM

[up] Bad. They add almost nothing to understanding what the trope is and don't belong there. The mention of the trope namer as it was before was fine.

Jul 19th 2012 at 4:36:11 PM

Even though Screw the Rules, I'm Doing What's Right! is ready to be called, please do NOT put the NRLEP stuff on it yet. I am still working on the Analysis/ page, and since I'm moving across the country tomorrow, it will take some time for me to sit down and finish. I apologize for the delay, but my Real Life stuff has to come first.

edited 19th Jul '12 4:36:37 PM by DarkConfidant

Belfagor from Nonantola, Italy
Jul 19th 2012 at 11:31:38 PM

[up][up][up]Bad, it adds nothing to the description of the trope.

And the analysis page of Witch Hunt basically cuts and pastes all the soapboxing from real life section. I say we should remove it.

edited 20th Jul '12 1:21:46 AM by Belfagor

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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
Jul 20th 2012 at 6:45:05 AM

I think we should give consideration to NRLEPing Acceptable Targets and its subtropes:

While some of them don't yet have Real Life examples, they all are "this group of people is okay to mock", which is something I don't think belongs on TV Tropes in regards to real life.

I haven't added them to the crowner yet on purpose, as I'm not sure if they should go on under "Acceptable Targets and its subtropes" in one entry, or each subtrope should get its own entry.

edited 20th Jul '12 6:45:57 AM by Nohbody

All your safe space are belong to Trump
Jul 20th 2012 at 8:03:17 AM

Hmm, I'm looking at the left handed section of Once Acceptable Targets and the RL section seems to be interesting trivia.

As Reign of Terror, I think the article should have information on particular elements of the RL that might have inspired fictional portrayals, and a little bit of information on the political climate.

Nocturna Seeking for Light
Seeking for Light
Jul 20th 2012 at 10:34:26 AM

But not all Reigns Of Terror are based off the Trope Namer. There have been other real life instances, and one can easily make up fictional ones just from one's imagination. The detailed stuff about the trope namer is not relevant to describing or understanding the trope.

If you really want to get into how the real life French Reign of Terror shows up in fictional instances of the trope, take it to Analysis.

edited 20th Jul '12 10:34:46 AM by Nocturna

lordGacek KVLFON from Kansas of Europe
KVLFON
Jul 20th 2012 at 12:09:58 PM

If Reign of Terror is NRLEP, shouldn't as well its opposite, Full-Circle Revolution? Just a passer's-by random thought.

"Atheism is the religion whose followers are easiest to troll"
CompletelyNormalGuy Definitely not a weirdo from Seattle
Definitely not a weirdo
Jul 20th 2012 at 9:28:06 PM

Adding Computer Virus because it is too common in real life to collect examples.

No noodles here. Just bad movies. Join us.
Jul 20th 2012 at 9:55:22 PM

It's only collected 2 examples in the years that it's been around.

Page Action: Real Life Section Maintenance 55
23rd Feb '19 5:11:53 PM
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These are pages that have been proposed to have their Real Life sections cut and tagged to not be recreated. Please discuss pages before adding them to the crowner. Entries made without discussion are subject to deletion.

Vote UP to indicate you think the Page should have NO Real Life examples.

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Items that have a big \"(CLOSED)\" at the ending have already been decided, meeting the following requirements:
  • They have ten or more total votes,
  • have been on the crowner for at least 48 hours, measured from when the addition of the new crowner entry is announced in a thread post,
  • and are stable with at least a 2:1 vote ratio.

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