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This thread is for general discussion of page quotes, whether to change, move or remove them.

Unused quotes should be put on a Quotes Wiki page (just replace the namespace in the URL of the wiki page you are making a quotes page for with Quotes/) or, if they don't have an article, on Quotes Looking For An Article.

Image captions are discussed elsewhere and have their own thread in the Image Pickin' forum.

Edited by Tabs on Jul 15th 2023 at 2:40:54 AM

fishysaur Good for nothing Since: May, 2018
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#8501: Dec 13th 2021 at 4:20:31 AM

[up]Yeah, sounds pretty good (and funny)

Delaying Action doesn't have a quote, may I add this?

Soldier: Lord Juza, we succeded in stopping them for now.
Juza: Yep... How many days do I have to stop them for?
Soldier: Two days will be enough.
Juza: Ok, then, two days...[holds his heavily bleeding wound] Looks like I have to sacrifice my life.

There isn't an impossible dream, there are only people who give up
prettycoolguy Since: Nov, 2010
#8502: Dec 13th 2021 at 8:00:36 AM

[up] Works for me.

The quote was changed for Ignored Aesop a couple days ago without any discussion or justification. Am I all good to restore the old quote?

Edited by prettycoolguy on Dec 13th 2021 at 11:00:54 AM

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#8503: Dec 13th 2021 at 8:27:17 AM

The page quote for Depraved Kids' Show Host is not very demonstrative. It's way more Subverted Kids' Show and will mean nothing to anyone who doesn't know who Andi Peters is. I suggest a Krusty the Clown quote instead, like this one.

"When I'm off the clock, kids can go jump in a lake for all I care."
Krusty the Clown, host of The Krusty the Clown Show, The Simpsons

prettycoolguy Since: Nov, 2010
#8504: Dec 13th 2021 at 8:36:58 AM

[up] It violates the No Real Life rule for the trope anyways, so I think it's all good to change.

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#8505: Dec 13th 2021 at 4:12:19 PM

The quote on We're Back! A Dinosaur's Story appears to be complaining:

"This Is The Land Before Time on crystal meth!"

Is it? Should it be replaced?

TRS Queue | Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining | Troper Wall
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#8506: Dec 13th 2021 at 4:16:56 PM

It might not be complaining, but it tells us basically nothing about the film that the poster didn't convey (i.e., it's a weird movie about dinosaurs). The picture's caption seems like it would work fine as a page quote.

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#8508: Dec 13th 2021 at 4:23:35 PM

...That's a great question, and I have no idea. It's probably better to be safe than sorry, and ask there.

johnnye Since: Jan, 2001
#8509: Dec 13th 2021 at 4:44:08 PM

On the Bojack suggestion for Nice Character, Mean Actor, it might help to trim the bit about "Marv" (who isn't relevant, but without context it sounds like he's who she's introducing herself to), and start from "I went backstage..."

Princess Carolyn: I went backstage to introduce myself.
Bojack: And then what happened?
Princess Carolyn: You told me you were too tired from pretending to be nice all night, and I needed to leave you alone.

Edited by johnnye on Dec 13th 2021 at 4:46:32 AM

LordGro from Germany Since: May, 2010
#8510: Dec 14th 2021 at 12:02:11 PM

The page quote on Glory Hound has two problems:

"Glory is fleeting, but obscurity is forever."

  1. Despite it being listed on all the usual quotes websites, I can find no evidence Napoleon ever said this. More than ten years ago, it was removed from Wikiquote for lacking a source, and has never been restored.
  2. It's connection to the trope is rather tenuous. It's a quote about glory, not about people taking their personal quest for glory too far.

I don't have a replacement at hand, but the quote is so poor I would delete it even without a replacement.

Let's just say and leave it at that.
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#8511: Dec 14th 2021 at 1:24:06 PM

Yeah just delete it. We can find another one in the meantime.

PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#8512: Dec 14th 2021 at 2:28:43 PM

I’m OK with it on Trope Namers, and Hello! because it’s a JFF page, but this is the quote on all of the pages it links to, including bluelinks, and I have no idea why.

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#8513: Dec 14th 2021 at 4:36:48 PM

[up] Because Running Gag, I guess? I don't know. Quote for I Am a Monster has quite a few blue links as well.

PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#8514: Dec 14th 2021 at 4:40:13 PM

Is that quote even an example of I Am a Monster? Not seeing self-loathing here.

It was CWD by Yukianesa.

Edited by PurpleEyedGuma on Dec 14th 2021 at 7:45:25 AM

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#8515: Dec 14th 2021 at 6:05:39 PM

As someone who's never played the game and doesn't know what daemon, malak, or therions are, it doesn't really have much impact. I'm down with replacing it. These from the quotes page look pretty good:

"I'm a monster inside and out. I belong in the fucking circus."

"I feel it deep within, it's just beneath the skin.
I must confess that I feel like a monster."
"Monster" by Skillet

Ling Xiaoyu: Jin! Don't let hatred turn you into a monster!
Jin Kazama: But I am a monster. It's all that's left.

PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#8516: Dec 14th 2021 at 6:08:10 PM

Or the old quote?

"I'm a monster. Monsters... can't live with humans. All we can do is destroy."
Chrono, Chrono Crusade

nrjxll Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Not war
#8517: Dec 14th 2021 at 6:09:24 PM

[up][up]As someone who loves the game, it's not even an example beyond the surface - in spirit it's a lot closer to Then Let Me Be Evil.

The old quote seems fine to me. Dunno why it was changed.

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#8518: Dec 14th 2021 at 6:19:27 PM

[up] Who knows? Can just make it as it was again, unless you'd rather message them to come here and discuss it first.

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#8519: Dec 14th 2021 at 6:42:46 PM

Yeah, the old quote was good.

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#8520: Dec 15th 2021 at 12:28:02 AM

I closed the crowner. Looks like someone already updated the page quote for Translation Convention though.

Macron's notes
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#8521: Dec 15th 2021 at 6:31:03 AM

Re Glory Hound: There's this quote from the subpage that seems decent:

"GLITZ! GLAMOUR! I'LL FINALLY HAVE IT ALL! SO WHAT IF A FEW PEOPLE HAVE TO DIE? THAT'S SHOW BUSINESS, BABY!"
Mettaton, Undertale

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prettycoolguy Since: Nov, 2010
#8523: Dec 15th 2021 at 8:12:39 AM

[up] 8x Honestly, I feel like the Tekken quote better displays the self-loathing aspect than the original quote. I'm good with using that one if anyone else agrees.

Pride and Pride Before a Fall have the same quote. For obvious reasons, it definitely fits the latter better. For a replacement for the former, I think these three are the top candidates:

Zuko: I don't feel any shame at all! I'm as proud as ever!
Iroh: Prince Zuko, pride is not the opposite of shame, but its source. True humility is the only antidote to shame.

"All men make mistakes, but a good man yields when he knows his course is wrong, and repairs the evil. The only sin is pride."
Sophocles, Antigone

Nightwolf: Arrogance like yours felled the Matoka.
Kung Lao: What's wrong with a healthy confidence?
Nightwolf: Unchecked, it becomes a cancer.

LordGro from Germany Since: May, 2010
#8524: Dec 15th 2021 at 10:07:23 AM

Thanks for taking care of the Glory Hound case.

Let's just say and leave it at that.
PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#8525: Dec 15th 2021 at 1:23:26 PM

Replacement quote suggestion for Bald Head of Toughness:

Krillin: Don't you know that everyone who's serious about martial arts shaves their head? Look at Master Roshi, he shaves!
Roshi: Nope, I'm naturally bald.


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