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Kory: i will need to do some more testing to see if the 500KB should be lowered even more but either way everyone can relax because the database will not crash or implode in anyway due to page size so splitting pages isn't a huge priority and is just more of a suggestion. For pages that actually load slow, splitting the pages will help slower internet users navigate these pages better.

     Eddie's old post 
Looks like we have a big page lock coming. Big in the sense of many pages and big in the sense that the pages to be locked are too big.

It looks like pages over 500,000 characters (html formatted, that is) are crashing the server when someone tries to edit them. programmer's whine 

They need to be fixed, anyway. Way too big for one page. They need to be broken up into subpages of a reasonable size.

I'm trying to get better about communicating before big changes, so we'll let this one run for a while before taking the action. The server crashes do come under the heading of 'urgent', though.

another programmer's thing 

See this page: Overly Long Pages

Explanation of what triggers the too-long page warning

Edited by kory on Dec 18th 2023 at 2:36:21 AM

videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#976: Aug 22nd 2012 at 8:16:31 PM

Working on Cerebus Syndrome now.

Edit: Done.

edited 22nd Aug '12 9:05:47 PM by videogmer314

MorganWick (Elder Troper)
#977: Aug 29th 2012 at 4:42:18 AM

I can split Characters.Friendship Is Magic-Background Ponies, but does anyone have some good suggestions on the way to split it?
I looked at that page and decided it would take someone more versed in MLP to split it, which is to say you might have more luck asking on the discussion page, maybe of multiple pages, to get the opinions of actual MLP fans.

Have you considered splitting up the Mane Cast as well?

Telcontar In uffish thought from England Since: Feb, 2012
In uffish thought
#978: Aug 29th 2012 at 10:39:54 AM

Background Ponies has been split by someone familiar with the show. The new arrangement is detailed on the discussion page.

That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#979: Sep 15th 2012 at 9:38:21 AM

Time for a new list?

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
BlueGuy (Ten years in the joint)
#980: Sep 19th 2012 at 8:05:34 PM

Wow, I didn't realize what this was for. sad

Anyway, I've done Pony POV Series. Now can we make a new list?

edited 22nd Sep '12 3:30:10 PM by BlueGuy

Pinball cleanup thread
FastEddie Since: Apr, 2004
mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
#983: Oct 13th 2012 at 11:21:46 PM

I'm not at all surprised to see AwesomeMusic.Vocaloid on that list; that's been growing at an exponential rate for a while now. (I've finally completed my sweep of uses of "this troper" and "why isn't song X on this page yet!?" on the Awesome Music subpages, as well as most extraneous code in Youtube links, so this is the one that leaps out at me most readily.) Perhaps this belongs on the discussion page for the page itself rather than in this thread (I'll post this there as well), but here goes anyway.

One thing I do notice about the page - and this won't save 50,000 characters, but I'll mention it anyway to clear up a question I've had for a while - is that almost every song title on the page is rendered in italics, whereas the convention I've read elsewhere is that album titles are italicised (eg, Who's Next) and song titles are put in quotes (eg, "Won't Get Fooled Again"). Although even if it did save 50,000 characters (which, again, it won't, there aren't 25,000 titles on the page), it would only be a temporary fix.

That aside, the page pretty much can't be trimmed down without being split - most of the examples are already borderline Zero Context Examples along the lines of "Her cover of (Youtube link)", and I checked that the Youtube links have been shorn of all extraneous code (if that even contributes to the character count). Even removing what cruft may still linger either won't save 50,000 characters or will only be a temporary fix.

The obvious thing might be to split it by performer... except there are forty-one subfolders (36 for individuals, four for other categories, and one for unsorted examples), and some only have one example in them. Perhaps there are ways to group multiple subfolders on subpages, but I don't know enough about the genre to know how that might be done (are some of the performers from the same creators, for example?). Alternatively, perhaps only the largest folders can be moved over to individual subpages - seems to have worked for a number of other oversized pages so far (AwesomeBosses.Video Games - or Awesome.VideoGameBosses as it once was - leaps to mind) - and others can be moved to new subpages as their folders grow.

edited 13th Oct '12 11:33:20 PM by mlsmithca

videogmer314 from that one place Since: Dec, 2009 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
#984: Oct 14th 2012 at 4:36:46 PM

Working on Characters.Red Vs Blue now.

Edit: Done.

edited 14th Oct '12 5:54:53 PM by videogmer314

lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#985: Oct 16th 2012 at 12:43:06 PM

Did Multiple Endings.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#986: Oct 17th 2012 at 9:30:40 AM

I've split El Goonish Shive, Enemy Mine, and Puella Magi Madoka Magica. I'll do Characters.South Park, and Characters.Classical Mythology next.

edited 18th Oct '12 11:55:32 AM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
IlVit Since: Oct, 2012
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#988: Oct 18th 2012 at 9:21:44 AM

Did Characters.Bleach Arrancars and Characters.FriendshipIsMagic-TheManeCast.

edited 18th Oct '12 11:20:13 AM by lu127

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
IlVit Since: Oct, 2012
#989: Oct 18th 2012 at 3:02:24 PM

Did the Fallout 3 Headscratchers page.

edited 18th Oct '12 3:05:38 PM by IlVit

Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#990: Oct 18th 2012 at 9:55:22 PM

Required Secondary Powers is done. Working on Ax-Crazy and Characters.Blaz Blue Calamity Trigger next.

Edit: Done.

edited 19th Oct '12 5:53:09 PM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
lu127 Paper Master from 異界 Since: Sep, 2011 Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
#991: Oct 19th 2012 at 8:44:02 AM

Characters.Daring Do and The '90s are done.

"If you aren't him, then you apparently got your brain from the same discount retailer, so..." - Fighteer
mlsmithca (Edited uphill both ways)
#993: Oct 21st 2012 at 12:25:34 PM

Fanfic.Touhou Doujin Dawitsus Folly has been split by story, with the series-wide examples left on the main page. If creating a Touhou Doujin Dawitsus Folly/ namespace for the pages is frowned upon, I'm guessing moving them to an approved namespace and cutlisting the previous versions will be easy enough to do.

edited 21st Oct '12 12:29:49 PM by mlsmithca

BlueGuy (Ten years in the joint)
IlVit Since: Oct, 2012
#996: Oct 21st 2012 at 4:40:36 PM

I did Famous Last Words.Video Games, WMG. Glee and Headscratchers.Watchmen.

edited 22nd Oct '12 6:06:11 PM by IlVit

Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#997: Oct 28th 2012 at 11:55:29 AM

Spiritual Successor is done.

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
Oreochan from Pennsylvania Since: Dec, 1969
#998: Nov 8th 2012 at 1:11:51 PM

Paper-Thin Disguise and Unusual Euphemism are done. Picking up Characters.Supernatural, Non-Indicative Name, and Series.The Big Bang Theory.

Since the last article count was almost a month ago, can we get a new page report soon?

edited 8th Nov '12 1:16:26 PM by Oreochan

"Learning without thinking is labor lost. Thinking without learning is dangerous."
FELH2 TV Tropes' very wikibot Since: May, 2012
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#999: Nov 8th 2012 at 1:27:21 PM

Then I will do Series.How I Met Your Mother. Edit: Done.

edited 8th Nov '12 1:40:34 PM by FELH2

Get rid of the walled garden
ArcadesSabboth from Mother Earth Since: Oct, 2011
#1000: Nov 13th 2012 at 12:23:25 PM

Are you guys also keeping track of pages that are nearing the 400k limit?

I just noticed The Wheel of Time is getting close, and the series just keeps getting longer.

edited 13th Nov '12 12:23:49 PM by ArcadesSabboth

Oppression anywhere is a threat to democracy everywhere.

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