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  • Anticlimax Boss:
    • Evil Martin, who's defeated in one blow when Jenny, quite literally throws the book at him; or rather quashes him under a large stack of them, either way.
    • An even more egregious case with Dr. Valentine, who after so much buildup from Jenny turns out to have been brainwashed to behave like a dog by Martin, without a single punch pulled or even a line of dialogue!
  • Ass Pull: Two examples:
    • First is Nicodemus' prophecy. It was never mentioned in the first film and was just thrown in for the purpose of giving the film a plot. What's even more jarring is that Nicodemus may have had telekinetic abilities, was wise and had a magical viewing globe but it was never made explicit that he could tell the future. And if he could see the future, shouldn't he have seen that brick coming? Even more is that according to the prophecy, a son of Johnathan Brisby would be chosen to save the rats from N.I.M.H.. The prophecy doesn't specifically say which son would save them, so Martin could've been the one to stop N.I.M.H., but the film acts like Timmy was always decided to be the chosen hero out of nowhere.
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    • Second is Mrs. Brisby's letter to Timmy that Martin is missing. You would think that because Martin is an important character in the story that this letter should be an important plot point, but it is thrown in quite far into the movie just to explain that Martin went missing. It even looks like Timmy pulled the thing out of his ass.
    • Timothy finally "learning to listen", after an entire movie of doing exactly the opposite no matter what the situation, when he finally escapes from Martin's prison and begins to actually think through a plan to save his friends. Throwing this claim out as he does comes off as a cheap resolution to the very thing that nearly cost everybody in a big way.
  • Audience-Alienating Premise: The prophecy surrounding Timothy's eventual heroism can come across as one when one notes that no such prophecy was mentioned in the original film; perhaps most controversially, there was a sequel novel to the original book on which the original Secret of NIMH had been based, and many feel its plot could have been a more worthy setup for this sequel than the prophecy in question. The fact that this film constantly emphasizes that Timmy will rise up to be a hero like his father in the face of evidence to the contrary doesn't help its case at all.
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  • Awesome Music: The reprise of "All I Had is Gone" over the ending credits is perhaps the most moving of all the songs in the movie.
  • Base-Breaking Character: Evil Martin. Either he is one of the very few redeeming qualities of the movie or he just adds to the stupidity of the whole thing. Then you have a third group who think he's both, and the smaller fourth group who thinks the idea was perfectly good but the way it's handled ruins it.
  • Big-Lipped Alligator Moment: The "Magic Mystery Show", sung by Jeremy and Cecil, accompanied by a bunch of dancing forest animals. It gets really ridiculous at points (Cecil's 'Optimouse' credit card is every bit as nonsensical as a Bat Credit Card,) and after the animals realize it's a scam and chase Jeremy and Cecil away, no one talks about it again.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse: Martin, who is much more likable, funny, and interesting than Timmy. Even moreso after he becomes the bad guy, at which point he's voiced by Eric Idle.
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  • Fanon Discontinuity: Most people refuse to acknowledge it as canon.
  • Ham and Cheese: Eric Idol as Evil Martin. He gives a nice, entertainingly hammy performance.
  • Idiot Plot: The entire story hinges on the prophecy that Timmy would rise up to defend Thorn Valley in the event that NIMH struck again, and yet it's the rats' utter conviction to this belief that prompts Martin to run away out of jealousy of his brother, which leads to his capture by NIMH and him being brainwashed into the mastermind who would seize control of NIMH and very nearly destroy Thorn Valley. It isn't helped by the fact that Timmy is consistently shown to be too impatient and impulsive to be trusted with the rats' more dangerous undertakings, and in fact it is his own negligence that gets everybody captured the night Evil Martin was prepared to invade the valley.
  • It Was His Sled: Martin is the villain.
  • Never Live It Down: The film's unfaithfulness and lack of connection to the first film has been thoroughly ripped to shreds, as has its decidedly poor animation, Lighter and Softer tone, and the entire Self-Fulfilling Prophecy surrounding Timmy. Mrs. Brisby's lack of involvement certainly didn't help its case either.
    • Timmy himself is a major sore point for most, and he does a lot more to make things worse for the Rats of NIMH before he comes around to make up for his mistakes; the fact that the film spared no expense to build him up as the next great hero ahead of all of his recklessness doesn't help his case in the slightest.
    • Worthy of note is its inclusion of footage from the first film, which inevitably led to many unfavorable comparisons between the two movies, right down to the animation.
  • The Scrappy: Most of the new characters probably count, but Timmy himself takes the cake for his Failure Hero status, the praise he gets for doing virtually nothing and for his overall recklessness in confronting the obstacles before him.
  • Sequelitis: The incredibly bad animation quality and general TOTAL lack of faithfulness to the original film's art direction, completely going against the serious, competent story, mood and characterization of the original film in favor of Flanderization, narmy writing combined with phoned in voice acting, and horribly written MUSICAL NUMBERS. The plot is a total Cliché Storm.
    • To give an idea, Mrs. Brisby is in the film for about a grand total of 25 seconds. No recognition is made of the amazing stuff she did towards the end of the first film, not even a "Hey, that was some cool stuff you did." The entire conflict of the movie is an extremely obvious Self-Fulfilling Prophecy that can be seen a mile away, the songs absolutely suck, and almost as if to call attention to the horrible animation, there are a few clips from the first film at the beginning, which actually serve to remind the viewer that "Hey, remember this movie? You should be watching that one again, not this one. See how much better it looks?"
      • For many, the ONLY bright spot is Eric Idle as Evil Martin. When he's on screen, it's somewhat less painful.
      • As with many of the unofficial Bluth sequels, Timmy to the Rescue is popular with some younger audiences due to the Lighter and Softer setup (which was likely what was intended).
  • Signature Scene: Evil Martin's Villain Song, easily the best remembered part of the movie and a guilty pleasure even for its harshest critics.
  • Special Effects Failure: Expect a lot of poor lip syncing throughout if you're watching carefully.
  • So Bad, It's Good: To some, Evil Martin in general. His being the villain is so bizarre and nonsensical and yet Eric Idle's gloriously hammy performance is one of the (very) few fun moments in the movie. The whole thing (particularly his Villain Song) is so stupid and bad it's hilarious. However, see Base-Breaking Character earlier in this page.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: Timothy is this in spades. Being a largely static character due to having been bedridden for the majority of the original film, the sequel should've opened up many new possibilities through which to evolve his character and personality. A story exploring his own future heroic exploits could have lent itself to this, but most fans will agree that the end result instead had the opposite effect, given Timothy's aforementioned Scrappy status. See Unintentionally Unsympathetic below.
    • Mrs. Brisby. Fans were not at all pleased to see her reduced to a background character with only a handful of lines onscreen after all she had been put through in the first film. For some, this alone was enough for them to disavow the sequel.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Plot: Just like how it's mentioned on the trivia page, this movie could've been far better for many if it had adapted more of its elements from Rasco and the Rats of NIMH or having the movie based off of the book instead of what we ended up getting. Strangely despite this, Timmy To the Rescue does share some small similarities with the book.
  • Unintentionally Unsympathetic: Everybody in Thorn Valley for pressuring Timmy into being like his late father because of the alleged prophecy, even his own family. They spend the better part of several years building up Timothy as the one who would follow in his father's footsteps as the Valley's next great protector before he'd done anything to win such praise. This quickly comes back to bite them all in the butt when he's an adult and eager to prove his worth in this role, only to prove extremely irrational and reckless with his friends having to remind him that "he wasn't ready" for the still-obscure task that lay ahead of him. That said, their earlier praise of him when he was young probably magnified a lot of his bad attitude later in life, remarking that he now acted as if "he knew better than everyone else". It nearly proves fatal not just for Timmy but to the entirety of Thorn Valley, as it is this misguided upbringing that causes them to fall into Evil Martin's clutches.
    • What really stands out about their treatment of Timmy is that, in spite of literally singing his praises, nobody in Thorn Valley is ever seen actually mentoring him or helping to realize the potential they all say he has. The most we get is a brief scene with Justin, where they basically are just goofing around; heck, when he comes up with a clever way of getting rid of a snake that would have most certainly posed a danger to the inhabitants, he gets scolded for it! His brother Martin was more help than they were. And, as time goes by, we see Tim doing nothing more than manual labor around the town, like shoveling snow or washing the cobblestones. No physical training, no higher education, nothing; he's literally been relegated to the role of handyman. So yeah, is it any wonder Tim turned out the way he did?
  • What an Idiot!:
    • Timmy, despite all he's built up to be, is made of this, constantly endangering himself and his friends because of his impulsiveness and impatience. In hindsight, he easily does more to endanger Thorn Valley while at NIMH before he can make up for his mistake. Even more egregious is his complete ignorance of what NIMH even is despite knowing of his father's legend in escaping NIMH.
    • Most of Thorn Valley, whose constant appraisals of Timothy probably lent itself to his arrogance as he got older, and ironically setting off the events that ensured NIMH would strike back.
    • Martin for running away from home, in spite of NIMH still searching the farm for the escaped rats. He gets himself captured and becomes the brainwashed Big Bad who seeks to bring about Thorn Valley's demise.
  • What Do You Mean, It Wasn't Made on Drugs?: Evil Martin's entire song number borders on an LSD trip.
  • WTH, Casting Agency?: Eric Idle as Evil Martin. However, he arguably gives the most entertaining performance in the film.


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