|
Main Darkness Induced Audience Apathy Discussion
Cutting The Great Gatsby as an example, sice it seems like the person writing it hadn't actually read the book.
''One of Yahtzee's common criticisms of video-games with Black And Gray Morality is that often the writers fail to give either side of the game's conflict any sympathetic qualities, leaving the player fighting for/as an unlikeable group/character, against a group/character that are even worse. As mentioned in his review of Bad Company 2:
Yahtzee: Is there not some third side to this conflict I can join? Preferably one that isn't full of dicks?''
that's not really true. it's more when gameplay and story fail to intersect resulting in Moral Dissonance. like In Bad Company where your own side are firing on you just to make the game harder or like in RPG where no minds you nicking stuff. He likes games where the hero is a bastard and the game knows it.
Remove Ninenties Anti Hero, Because they are still far less evil than the villains.
Can i talk to someone about this? It's from the Code Geass entry:
It's already going that way early in Season One; the very first episode features Lelouch mind-controlling a platoon of soldiers into suicide and doesn't seem at all moved, and a few episodes later he carries out an operation which involves sacrificing his own troops without their knowledge as well as endangering and killing numerous noncombatants, making it rather difficult to sympathize with the protagonist.
Okay, i'm not going to try to deny that Code Geass fits this trope, because from what i can see, it does. But i am going to say that this particular entry seems a little harsh. Lelouch does some evil things, i can't (and wouldn't try) to deny that either. But other than the fact that it leaves out some information (like the fact that the Mooks were Asshole Victims). And most importantly: that part about him sacrificing his own troops a few episodes later? That's not even true.
I'm guessing that the person who posted that was talking about the battle of Narita, where he did not sacrifice his own troops, he sacrificed the JLF's troops. A dick move? Yes, but the only time he knowingly sacrificed his own soldiers was waaaaay at the end of the series. And he also didn't realize that his actions there would indanger the innocent civlians.
Basically, i'm asking someone to tone down the message and make it a little less biased against Lelouch. I'd do it myself, but as you can probably tell, i'm too biased towards Lelouch, therefore i can't really be trusted to edit it fairly. either.
Could we possibly remove the idea that the Eastern Front was a case of Evil vs Evil? I'm not Russian and I absolutely despise the Soviet Union, for the most part, but it seems utterly wrong to state that the Soviet Union was just as bad as Nazi Germany, especially since the former was never as close to being as aggressive as the latter. I want to avoid a edit war, which is why I'm asking first, but it seems like a bad idea to have any real life examples anyway...