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17th Jun '18 5:24:57 PM KamenRiderOokalf
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* The Tokusatsu parody ''Gun Caliber'' written and directed by the Website/YouTube channel [[https://www.youtube.com/user/garageprotv/ Garage Hero]] takes place in an alternate Japan where [[spoiler: Superheroes have gone the way of celebrities and have become so insufferably corrupt that the government now regulates them using a ratings system. Heroes are now treated as [[AllOftheOtherReindeer national pariahs]] because of this and [[HeroWithBadPublicity are all but underground]]]]. The story attempts to hammer home the fact that the protagonist is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, but at no point does he display any of the positive qualities that make up a hero; instead coming off as a insufferable HeroicComedicSociopath who despite having a DarkAndTroubledPast that [[JerkJustifications explains their lethargy]], does utterly nothing but go on [[ADateWithRosiePalms many dates with Rosie Palms]] and [[HatesEveryoneEqually hate everything and everybody else around him the rest of the time]]. What doesn't help is that ''eight of the thirteen episodes'' of this series are dedicated not to world-building, (Though it is there) but to how unrepentant this [[NominalHero supposed hero]] and his setting is.[[note]] Episode 5 literally has him and three Sentai Expies [[DisproportionateRetribution haze a high-schooler that calls him and his cohorts out for ranting drunkenly in a public study area]]. Other [[SarcasmMode lovely feats]] also include him interrupting a reporter while drunk and tricking a DamselInDistress into giving him a blowjob.[[/note]] By the time Gun Caliber displays any redeeming qualities, the miniseries is basically over and it's too little too late. What doesn't help is that the setting is a CrapsackWorld inhabited by [[JerkAss Jerkasses]], [[EverybodyHasLotsofSex Overly-horny fools]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs variations of both]]; and the two sole exceptions to this rule have a combined total of eight lines, tops. The show's attempts to send a ScrewDestiny message end up lost amid the sex jokes, stereotypes, unwavering cynicism, and utter lack of conflict. It seems like it's trying it's best to be a Franchise/KamenRider Parody in the same vein that HikoninSentaiAkibaranger is to SuperSentai, but instead of actually parodying the source material, it puts [[UpToEleven way too much focus]] on the "mature" alcoholic sex humor. As a result, ''Gun Caliber'' comes off as a miserable, bleak, depressing mess with a few [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking amazingly-shot combat segments and nice cinematography]].

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* The Tokusatsu parody ''Gun Caliber'' written and directed by the Website/YouTube channel [[https://www.youtube.com/user/garageprotv/ Garage Hero]] takes place in an alternate Japan where [[spoiler: Superheroes have gone the way of celebrities and have become so insufferably corrupt that the government now regulates them using a ratings system. Heroes are now treated as [[AllOftheOtherReindeer national pariahs]] because of this and [[HeroWithBadPublicity are all but underground]]]]. The story attempts to hammer home the fact that the protagonist is a JerkWithAHeartOfGold, but at no point does he display any of the positive qualities that make up a hero; instead coming off as a insufferable HeroicComedicSociopath who despite having a DarkAndTroubledPast that [[JerkJustifications explains their lethargy]], does utterly nothing but go on [[ADateWithRosiePalms many dates with Rosie Palms]] and [[HatesEveryoneEqually hate everything and everybody else around him the rest of the time]]. What doesn't help is that ''eight of the thirteen episodes'' of this series are dedicated not to world-building, (Though it is there) but to how unrepentant this [[NominalHero supposed hero]] and his setting is.[[note]] Episode 5 literally has him and three Sentai Expies [[DisproportionateRetribution haze a high-schooler that calls him and his cohorts out for ranting drunkenly in a public study area]]. Other [[SarcasmMode lovely feats]] also include him interrupting a reporter while drunk and tricking a DamselInDistress into giving him a blowjob.[[/note]] By the time Gun Caliber displays any redeeming qualities, the miniseries is basically over and it's too little too late. What doesn't help is that the setting is a CrapsackWorld inhabited by [[JerkAss Jerkasses]], [[EverybodyHasLotsofSex Overly-horny fools]], or [[BreadEggsBreadedEggs variations of both]]; and the two sole exceptions to this rule have a combined total of eight lines, tops. The show's attempts to send a ScrewDestiny message end up lost amid the sex jokes, stereotypes, unwavering cynicism, and utter lack of conflict. It seems like it's trying it's its best to be a Franchise/KamenRider Parody ''Franchise/KamenRider'' parody in the same vein that HikoninSentaiAkibaranger ''Series/HikoninSentaiAkibaranger'' is to SuperSentai, ''Franchise/SuperSentai'', but instead of actually parodying the source material, it puts [[UpToEleven way too much focus]] on the "mature" alcoholic sex humor. As a result, ''Gun Caliber'' comes off as a miserable, bleak, depressing mess with a few [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking amazingly-shot combat segments and nice cinematography]].
2nd Jun '18 4:29:06 AM MarkLungo
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It is often said that "conflict is the soul of drama". Without some form of {{conflict}} to fuel things there's no engine to drive the story and thus little reason to engage with it. However, we here at TV Tropes would like to propose an amendment to this phrase which includes something important but sadly all-too-often forgotten:

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It is often said that "conflict is the soul of drama". Without some form of {{conflict}} to fuel things there's no engine to drive the story and thus little reason to engage with it. However, we here at TV Tropes Wiki/TVTropes would like to propose an amendment to this phrase which includes something important but sadly all-too-often forgotten:
10th May '18 8:02:35 PM Ferot_Dreadnaught
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** ''Hunter: The Reckoning'' had this problem at release. It was advertised as a World of Darkness game in which the characters would play regular people attempting to take back their streets from the assorted vampires, werewolves, mages etc. that populate the setting. When the book was actually released, though, it was revealed that Hunters themselves also had supernatural powers granted to them by an unknown entity.. and since every powerful unknown force in the setting up to that point was a BigBad, and "I'm a monster but I have to be to defend you against the other worse monster" a central theme of all the games, Hunters appeared no longer to be the champions of regular humanity but just another type of supernatural creature. A great deal of disappointed NerdRage resulted.

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** ''Hunter: The Reckoning'' had this problem at release. It was advertised as a World of Darkness game in which the characters would play regular people attempting to take back their streets from the assorted vampires, werewolves, mages etc. that populate the setting. When the book was actually released, though, it was revealed that Hunters themselves also had supernatural powers granted to them by an unknown entity.. and since every powerful unknown force in the setting up to that point was a BigBad, and "I'm a monster but I have to be to defend you against the other worse monster" a central theme of all the games, Hunters appeared no longer to be the champions of regular humanity but just another type of supernatural creature. A great deal of disappointed NerdRage resulted.
18th Apr '18 6:07:25 PM infernape612
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* The ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' games. The premise for them is already dark, in that the protagonists are all stuck in a school or on an island and the sadistic Monokuma tells them that, in order to be free, they need to kill each other and get away with it. With that as your beginning aspect, there's not much else one can do to make it even darker, but the game does, by including the revelation that TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt has occurred outside of the school and the air is tainted, food is scarce and what little of 'society' remains is filled with violence. And the GaidenGame ''VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls'' flips things around and shows how bad things are outside in the world. For a game that started with simply killing students and solving murders, this got dark so fast, it's in absolute darkness.
** In Absolute Despair Girls it actually seems to be playing with your apathy by shocking you back into being horrified again and again. What is worse than senseless murder? Senseless murder committed by children. Worse than that? Those children being abused. Near the end the main character temporarily falls into a state of this because she is shown something so horrifying to her that she stops caring about the decision she was supposed to be making, but recovers before the final boss battle soon afterwards.

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* The ''VisualNovel/DanganRonpa'' ''Franchise/DanganRonpa'' games. The premise for them is already dark, in that the protagonists are all stuck in a school or on an island and the sadistic Monokuma tells them that, in order to be free, they need to kill each other and get away with it. With that as your beginning aspect, there's not much else one can do to make it even darker, but the game does, by including the revelation that TheEndOfTheWorldAsWeKnowIt has occurred outside of the school and the air is tainted, food is scarce and what little of 'society' remains is filled with violence. And the GaidenGame ''VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls'' flips things around and shows how bad things are outside in the world. For a game that started with simply killing students and solving murders, this got dark so fast, it's in absolute darkness.
** In Absolute Despair Girls ''VideoGame/AbsoluteDespairGirls'' it actually seems to be playing with your apathy by shocking you back into being horrified again and again. What is worse than senseless murder? Senseless murder committed by children. Worse than that? Those children being abused. Near the end the main character temporarily falls into a state of this because she is shown something so horrifying to her that she stops caring about the decision she was supposed to be making, but recovers before the final boss battle soon afterwards.
18th Apr '18 6:06:32 PM infernape612
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** This reaches new depths in ''VisualNovel/NewDanganronpaV3''. [[spoiler:The events of the first four installments of the series were apparently works of fiction in this universe, and the events of ''V3'' are actually the [=53rd=] season of a reality show spinoff. The students were brainwashed into "real fictional characters" for the show and have no way of reclaiming their original identities. On top of that, only three students survive the game (compared to six in the first game and five in the second), and now have to somehow reintegrate into a world that was ''enthralled'' with 53 iterations of a killing game between teenagers]]. On top of that, [[spoiler:all that might not even be true--one of the game's central themes is the power of lies, which mainly manifests as the villainous characters lying so much that the ambiguity is just ''irritating'']].

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** This reaches new depths in ''VisualNovel/NewDanganronpaV3''.''VisualNovel/NewDanganRonpaV3''. [[spoiler:The events of the first four installments of the series were apparently works of fiction in this universe, and the events of ''V3'' are actually the [=53rd=] season of a reality show spinoff. The students were brainwashed into "real fictional characters" for the show and have no way of reclaiming their original identities. On top of that, only three students survive the game (compared to six in the first game and five in the second), and now have to somehow reintegrate into a world that was ''enthralled'' with 53 iterations of a killing game between teenagers]]. On top of that, [[spoiler:all that might not even be true--one of the game's central themes is the power of lies, which mainly manifests as the villainous characters lying so much that the ambiguity is just ''irritating'']].
8th Apr '18 10:46:35 AM Stealth
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** This was especially bad in the early days of the ''Mechwarrior: Dark Age'' series, which bumped everything ahead by about half a century--not only did this mean that most of the characters that fans had come to know and love were dead (often KilledOffscreen), but the setting had reduced the availability of 'Mechs and made them frustratingly expensive to field, which, while somewhat realistic, is also anathema to pushing the setting's unique selling point, as a HumongousMecha SpaceOpera. It did not help that the powers that be set up some thirty-odd preset characters to try and give a sense of stability to the setting (and continuity with the fan-preferred ''Classic Battletech'') and then proceeded to kill off or write out approximately a third of them within six months, including most of the major Clan characters introduced to set up that portion of the universe. As a result, many long-time fans ended up uninvested in the new Dark Age setting, declaring it a DorkAge.
24th Mar '18 8:05:20 PM nombretomado
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* Also during the same time as the Authority storyline was Wrestling/BrockLesnar and his complete dominance over the WWE roster since ending Wrestling/TheUndertaker's WrestleMania undefeated streak. Although still technically-booked as a heel, fans [[RootingForTheEmpire still cheered him at first]], since his "[[SpamAttack Suplex City]]" gimmick was used on traditional XPacHeat recipients Cena and Reigns. But as the WWE entered the latter half of 2015 where Lesnar first refused to be beaten cleanly by Undertaker in their Wrestling/SummerSlam rematch that year then defeating him again in Hell in a Cell, people began to start seeing problems with Lesnar's overprotective booking. It got worse in 2016 when at first Lesnar feuded with Wrestling/DeanAmbrose, arguably WWE's most white-hot babyface who fans believed could be the one to get the victory on Lesnar, only for their WrestleMania Street Fight to end up an embarrassing squash match in Lesnar's favor due to him not wanting to get injured before his fight at ''UFC 200'', then fighting Wrestling/RandyOrton at Wrestling/SummerSlam resulting in a finish that ended with Lesnar giving Orton a legitimate concussion. The darkness abated somewhat after Wrestling/{{Goldberg}} squashed Lesnar in less than two minutes at Wrestling/SurvivorSeries, but now that Lesnar has defeated Goldberg in their WrestleMania rematch, becoming Universal Champion in the process, the apathy is sure to come back in full force.

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* Also during the same time as the Authority storyline was Wrestling/BrockLesnar and his complete dominance over the WWE roster since ending Wrestling/TheUndertaker's WrestleMania Wrestling/WrestleMania undefeated streak. Although still technically-booked as a heel, fans [[RootingForTheEmpire still cheered him at first]], since his "[[SpamAttack Suplex City]]" gimmick was used on traditional XPacHeat recipients Cena and Reigns. But as the WWE entered the latter half of 2015 where Lesnar first refused to be beaten cleanly by Undertaker in their Wrestling/SummerSlam rematch that year then defeating him again in Hell in a Cell, people began to start seeing problems with Lesnar's overprotective booking. It got worse in 2016 when at first Lesnar feuded with Wrestling/DeanAmbrose, arguably WWE's most white-hot babyface who fans believed could be the one to get the victory on Lesnar, only for their WrestleMania [=WrestleMania=] Street Fight to end up an embarrassing squash match in Lesnar's favor due to him not wanting to get injured before his fight at ''UFC 200'', then fighting Wrestling/RandyOrton at Wrestling/SummerSlam resulting in a finish that ended with Lesnar giving Orton a legitimate concussion. The darkness abated somewhat after Wrestling/{{Goldberg}} squashed Lesnar in less than two minutes at Wrestling/SurvivorSeries, but now that Lesnar has defeated Goldberg in their WrestleMania [=WrestleMania=] rematch, becoming Universal Champion in the process, the apathy is sure to come back in full force.
14th Mar '18 9:50:57 AM Jacob175
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* Almost certainly one of the reasons ''Webcomic/ChainmailBikini'' didn't work out as opposed to ''DM of the Rings'' is that, separated from the connection to ''Lord of the Rings'' with its characters and story people were familiar with, the gaming group came off less as a parody/commentary on gaming tropes and bad gaming and more just a group of people being complete dicks to each other.


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* ''Webcomic/NineteenNinetySomething'': A lot of the stories are really bleak and cynical and most of the characters range from jerks to just straight-up horrible people. It got so bad that the author himself started [[http://jbwarner86.deviantart.com/journal/Nineteen-Ninety-Something-vs-Off-the-Deep-End-546988596 noticing]] [[http://jbwarner86.deviantart.com/journal/Fixing-Joel-563129772 this]] and set out to try and make the stories more uplifting and the characters more likable (Keyword being "try" as this has had varying degrees of success).
13th Feb '18 8:08:22 PM RighteousFury
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* Also during the same time as the Authority storyline was Wrestling/BrockLesnar and his complete dominance over the WWE roster since ending Wrestling/TheUndertaker's WrestleMania undefeated streak. Although still technically-booked as a heel, fans [[RootingForTheEmpire still cheered him at first]], since his "[[SpamAttack Suplex City]]" gimmick was used on traditional XPacHeat recipients Cena and Reigns. But as the WWE entered the latter half of 2015 where Lesnar first refused to be beaten cleanly in their Wrestling/SummerSlam rematch that year then defeating him again in Hell in a Cell, people began to start seeing problems with Lesnar's overprotective booking. It got worse in 2016 when at first Lesnar feuded with Wrestling/DeanAmbrose, arguably WWE's most white-hot babyface who fans believed could be the one to get the victory on Lesnar, only for their WrestleMania Street Fight to end up an embarrassing squash match in Lesnar's favor due to him not wanting to get injured before his fight at ''UFC 200'', then fighting Wrestling/RandyOrton at Wrestling/SummerSlam resulting in a finish that ended with Lesnar giving Orton a legitimate concussion. The darkness abated somewhat after Wrestling/{{Goldberg}} squashed Lesnar in less than two minutes at Wrestling/SurvivorSeries, but now that Lesnar has defeated Goldberg in their WrestleMania rematch, becoming Universal Champion in the process, the apathy is sure to come back in full force.

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* Also during the same time as the Authority storyline was Wrestling/BrockLesnar and his complete dominance over the WWE roster since ending Wrestling/TheUndertaker's WrestleMania undefeated streak. Although still technically-booked as a heel, fans [[RootingForTheEmpire still cheered him at first]], since his "[[SpamAttack Suplex City]]" gimmick was used on traditional XPacHeat recipients Cena and Reigns. But as the WWE entered the latter half of 2015 where Lesnar first refused to be beaten cleanly by Undertaker in their Wrestling/SummerSlam rematch that year then defeating him again in Hell in a Cell, people began to start seeing problems with Lesnar's overprotective booking. It got worse in 2016 when at first Lesnar feuded with Wrestling/DeanAmbrose, arguably WWE's most white-hot babyface who fans believed could be the one to get the victory on Lesnar, only for their WrestleMania Street Fight to end up an embarrassing squash match in Lesnar's favor due to him not wanting to get injured before his fight at ''UFC 200'', then fighting Wrestling/RandyOrton at Wrestling/SummerSlam resulting in a finish that ended with Lesnar giving Orton a legitimate concussion. The darkness abated somewhat after Wrestling/{{Goldberg}} squashed Lesnar in less than two minutes at Wrestling/SurvivorSeries, but now that Lesnar has defeated Goldberg in their WrestleMania rematch, becoming Universal Champion in the process, the apathy is sure to come back in full force.
2nd Feb '18 8:36:52 AM system
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