So, if I'm taking Characters.Digimon Adventure 02 Major Villains, which was checked in the OP as a ZCE, and turning it into a not-ZCE, because it's being wielded by a sea monster-y being, how does that work?

if it fits the trope and you've added more context, you leave it be

Yeah, being wielded by a sea monster means it fits Prongs of Poseidon since that trope is about the association of tridents with the sea. However, since it's a ZCE and since it's common to delete ZCEs during TRS cleanup, it wouldn't be a big deal if you deleted it.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 17th 2022 at 11:33:45 AM

Sorry, I mean, "do I need to note it down somewhere?", like does the OP / banner need to be updated?

They don't need to be updated.

All you really need to do at the end is say which namespace you've just cleaned, and we'll trust that the examples left behind are all valid.

Yeah, it would be good to update the sandbox. The listing in the wick check just reflects what the example looked like when the wick check was being done; examples are always subject to change.

Worked through the Main/ wicks.

YMMV.The Hunger Games:

Is the fact that District 4 is the Fishing District, enough to keep?

Personally, my impression is that if the reader needs to be previously familiar with the contents of a work to understand what an example is saying, it's not an example with context.

In this case, there's nothing in the sentence you quoted that explains or hints at how District 4 is related to the sea, so unless you feel like expanding on it to do so I'd just cut the pothole.

Yeah, I think it's safe to cut the pothole if there's no way to expand it.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 21st 2022 at 12:49:39 PM

- I meant "is the trope flexible enough that 'being from the fishing district' would make it count?", but your statements imply that it is, so editing, not cutting.

Edited by Malady on May 23rd 2022 at 8:31:26 AM

I would definitely count that. Basically anything to do with water/fishing is enough, imo.

Should our Laconic be broadened?

Current:

Proposal:

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So it reinforces my Characters.Bomberman edit.

Edited by Malady on May 23rd 2022 at 8:44:58 AM

Why surfers? Fishermen could at least use harpoons, which are a bit similar to tridents.

Edited by GastonRabbit on May 24th 2022 at 2:43:58 PM

The laconic wasn't implying that sea gods were the only examples of trope so you really wouldn't be broadening anything. It's just there because they are the most known. I don't think we need to list more specific instances.

Edited by MacronNotes on May 24th 2022 at 3:50:30 PM

Should we expand the allowable concept range, from "sea" to "water", if my Bomberman example counts, though?

Agree with Macron, I don't see any problem with extrapolating to all water associations without needing to explicitly state such in the laconic. Unless explicitation is troping best practices, in which case ignore me!

Worked through the Characters namespace down to the Digimon sheets, will update the sandbox accordingly.

EDIT: Worked through the letter H.

Edited by Theriocephalus on May 30th 2022 at 12:20:31 PM

Not gonna lie I'm glad that the Devil's pitchfork and tridents are being split because having them combined in one trope was super weird. Although thinking about it, I take it that now any kind of non-sea trident or normal pitchfork use as weapons can go to Blade On A Stick?

Probably.

Only VideoGames/ and Characters/ (except for pages beginning with H) are left. I added listings for the first letter of namespaces that didn't have any wicks since they're complete, for all intents and purposes (since they didn't have any wicks to clean to begin with).

The V namespaces are done (Theriocephalus helped me out with VideoGame/), and I knocked out some of the Characters/ namespace.

For clarity, what's left now?

According to Sandbox.Prongs Of Poseidon Wick Cleaning, pages in the Characters/ namespace starting with O through Z.