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- If one of Elliot's parents was secretly an Immortal that would make Elliot (and by extension possibly Ellen) an elf and that would mean Elliot should have been punished for using magic so publicly since elves are forbidden to do so. The lack of punishment by itself josses that part of the theory.
- Also, Elliot's parents are used to weird things going on because Elliot spends a lot of time with Tedd.
Now, maybe Dan just hasn't shown us other instances of it, but the dialogue on this page suggests that Elliot waking up with the wrong form hasn't happened outside of this and the previously mentioned incident. What have we discovered thus far in this arc? 1. Some fiery dude is attacking innocent nerds. 2. Elliot can fly.
Obviously, Dan's got some other big to-do that's about to go down. I'd be watching out for any other times that Elliot's magic doesn't quite work the way he wants it to.
Elliott has been shown lucid dreaming on a number of occasions. This could be an indicator that, once he gains spells normally, he will gain spells for things like defence against hypnosis and other forms of telepathy. This could also tie in with his desire to be a heroic figure, being able to withstand mind control.
- And it's going to look like Cheerleadra, because that's now the form he associates with temporarily becoming superpowerful.
- Because if Ellen is Elliot's sister/daughter, and Ashley and Ellen are dragon-sisters, then obviously that makes Ashley Elliot's sister/stepdaughter. Plus it's been a while since we've had someone mess with Elliot by trying to parse Ellen's family tree into something normal.
- From a Doylist point of view, Cheerleadra is something of a parody of comic-book superheroes in general and Superman in particular, and one of the things that comic-book Superman is most infamous for is getting lots and lots of really silly powers as needed for specific plots. From a Watsonian point of view, Elliot really likes the Cheerleadra form, which may lead to getting spells connected to it, and the idea of getting more or more powerful spells than he normally would with the caveat that he can only use them when in the already magically infused Cheerleadra form makes at least as much sense as anything else about Shiveian magic. Furthermore, we've actually seen something very similar with Nanase, who has received several spells specifically to augment her fairy form.
- We already know Elliot can vary the form he assumes when using the Cheerleadra spell, and with his magic no longer stuck on "turn into girl", he can probably assume male forms with that spell if he wants to. He just doesn't know because he hasn't tried yet.
- With the "un-change" and the cracking of the Masquerade, magic use is about to go through the roof, and new agents are going to be desperately needed to police the growing population of magic-users. Elliot is a magic user of considerable power, already clued in and confirmed to be trustworthy and responsible, and wants nothing more than to protect the innocent and stop bullies (which also means that he's likely to start getting exactly the sort of spells he'd need for DGB work, now that he's over his energy buildups).
- One of the reasons he's attracted to Susan is because she is smart and challenges him. Ashley is certainly not stupid, but she is kinda meek and passive. Elliot himself is currently going through some character development that leads to him losing some of his own passiveness and taking more initiative, and at some point, he'll just wind up bored with Ashley and her fangirl-ish admiration.
- Alternately, he might get uncomfortable with her transformation fetish, and Ashley is more interested in getting access to more magic and the use of it than actually being with him.
There is/was a rampant fan-theory in Gundam fandom that Tiera Erde is a nanomachine-enhanced cyborg clone of Aeolia Schenberg. Tiera is an androgynous purple-haired, glasses-wearing guy who does look like Tedd in some strange way. Aeolia is just Tedd under a pseudonym to disguise the fact that he's been alive since the 1980's(?) (and hey, if you've got the haxmagic to turn yourself into a busty girl, catgirl, etc. etc.... what's keeping you from periodically 'resetting' your age?). Additionally, Aeolia's technological theories were far beyond his time, perfectly in line with the idea that he could've had alien knowledge, but not the means to mass-implement it.
Celestial Being's main purpose, as suggested by Regene and Veda-Tiera is to unite the world under a common banner, but not for warm and fuzzy reasons—but rather to better prepare humanity for the first contact with alien life. Tedd knows alien life exists and has interacted with it personally, and received technology/magic from them. Obviously, the masquerade will fail sooner or later, and it'd sure be nice if humanity wasn't overrun or sent into total panic.
Also: Aliens do exist in Gundam 00. And they shapeshift.
Since being based off of the crazy shit we see in EGS, the GN Drives literally are magical, and GN Particles are literal pixie dust, hence they can evolve (transform) beings into higher/different states, facilitate psychic communication, teleportation, seem to favor androgynous prettyboys (Tedd is vain, after all), magically heal people (according to the sidestory manga), and turn child soldiers into badasses.
But why use giant robots? Simple, Tedd's a gigantic nerd.
tl;dr - Tiera looks like Tedd, amirite?
- Jossed. Tedd's Asian heritage is strongly suggested to be Japanese via Mrs. Kitsune, and in this strip it's mentioned that of all the many places in Asia Ashley has ancestry in, Japan is not one of them.
- Semi-Jossed. "Well, the one place in Asia I'm sure I don't have ancestry is Japan... I wanted to know if we had an excuse to visit." All that says is she was TOLD she's not from Japan, and the commentary doesn't confirm or deny anything.
- Also, Ashley is about Tedd's age, and the Verres didn't break up immediately after Tedd was born. So if Ashley were Tedd's sister, he and his father would know about her.
- Plus Ashley moved to Moperville from California. Last anyone knows, Mrs. Verres was in Europe.
- Alternatively, he hasn't connected the dots and realized that Tedd is gender fluid yet. Maybe he's not educated about the topic either, maybe he just has the wrong assumptions.
- Considering that for the longest time Tedd self-identified as a pervert, this seems likely.
- Tedd mentions here that one of her main goals going forward will be to find a way to boost the common person's magic resistance in order to mitigate the risks from magic suddenly becoming freely available. Tedd's also a Seer, and the three primary powers of a Seer are extremely strong spell resistance in proportion to the Seer's general power level, the ability to see and intuitively understand magic (including the Seer's own powers), and the ability to craft spell catalysts. So as a stopgap until he can find a way to boost natural magic resistances, Tedd can craft spell catalysts that duplicate his own spell resistance, taking the little bit of magic everyone generates and converting it into some level of spell resistance. It won't be much, since most people don't have a lot of magic, but even weak spell resistance is better than no resistance at all.
- Semi-Jossed: Sarah's magic affinity doesn't seem to be related to summoning, but rather to observing the reality that surrounds her.
- Wizards are different from normal spellcasters, as they can learn other peoples' spells.
- Sarah has no affinity for anything specific. This could mean that she could become equally-strong in all areas of magic.
- It turns out she has an affinity, but it's hard to detect.
- Sarah's dreams show her in the (presumably blue) hat and robe of a wizard.
- Sarah has explicitly mentioned that she wants to be a wizard.
- Whenever Sarah activates her time-stop simulation, it briefly scans everything around her in order to create the simulation. Now, this interaction is so subtle that you're not likely to notice it unless you specifically are looking for it, but wards against magical espionage are probably something the DGB has access to, especially since they have someone who can use the same time-stop spell and therefore must know that there could be others with access to it. So if Sarah uses her spell too near the wrong building, even if she wasn't trying to get inside, she could set off some alarm and reveal her spell.
- Sarah gets her simulation spell from a bloodline affinity, which means she has fairy ancestry. However, she is not descended from Pandora, because the Pandoran bloodline affinity is for magical weapons.
- Jerry mentioned having been quite a lech when he was younger, and he knew that elves can themselves have children. Moreover, Zeus mentions that Jerry passed passed on that knowledge because he wanted Zeus to be a "responsible successor", further implying that Jerry had descendants.
- We know that the spells you get are tied to who you are and what you've been doing with magic, and we see here that even with a proper Awakening, your first new spell will probably be related to whatever caused you to Awaken. Therefore, assuming Box manages to succeed in Awakening Sarah, her first new spell will probably reflect her friendship with Box. And what could be more appropriate than the power to visit Box in her "home"?
- Moreover, this spell would be a fairly similar effect to Sarah's mark spell, and the ability to observe the mortal plane from the spiritual would give it a similar stealth/espionage motif, so there's a good chance it would fall within the scope of her bloodline affinity.
- Point 1: George takes an instant dislike to Elliot upon first meeting him. This is out of character for George. In fact, note his exact wording:Justin: What the hell, George? You're not like this with my other friends.
George: The girls are different.
Justin: Oh, so my friends you want to sleep with. They're okay.
George: That is so not the problem. - Point 2: When George discovers Elliot is not actually Justin's boyfriend (as he had assumed), he is distracted to the point that he stops badgering Justin for information which he had specifically said he would not stop badgering Justin for. He also ends the conversation abruptly and in a rather desperate fashion.
- Point 3: When Justin brings up the subject of George's behaviour in their last talk, he gets noticeably nervous and quickly adopts Justin's suggestion of a possible explanation.
- I'm glad I'm not the only one who's picked up on this. What amazes me is that Justin apparently hasn't.
- George isn't really Justin's type. He probably hasn't noticed it because he isn't looking for it (assuming that it's there to begin with).
- Dan actually went out and said that if you believed George's excuse then he had a bridge you might be interested in. It's not quite a confirmation of the "crush" theory, but there aren't many options for what George might be hiding.
- I'm glad I'm not the only one who's picked up on this. What amazes me is that Justin apparently hasn't.
- Point 4: When George sees Justin and Luke get along well (in a manner that made Grace's relationship senses jiggle), he acts towards Luke much like he did towards Elliot before.
- Point 5: Sarah certainly thinks so.
- Unlikely. Grace was more interested in hooking Justin up with Luke.
- Though by now, Grace is not perfectly comfortable around Luke anymore because she doesn't really have an insight into his magic and motivations, and Grace likes George.
- If that's the case, she's not doing this all the time. She's wearing a skirt and heels when she meets Cheerleadra.
- A short haircut alone doesn't make for a masculine appearance. Melissa wears earrings, skirts, heels, and jackets that underline her figure rather than neutralize it.
- Uhm, no. Dan has explicitly stated in a Q&A chapter that the form of a mark doesn't matter, it's the area of the body it's on that matters. While it is possible that Justin has gained some fire magic due to somebody's meddling, it doesn't mean he actually has, unless he has a natural affinity for fire or a strong desire to set things on fire.
- They'd have to become pretty good friends first, and I don't see that happening.
- Considering that Justin is currently the only main character who knows that Noah is the Child Left Behind, though, it's possible that they could become friends.
- In fact, I'd like to take this WMG a step further and tie it in with some of the theories about Noah actually being a greater chimera: This is how Justin will find out. He'll be playing with Noah's hair and suddenly be feeling two distinctly non-hair-like things in there... Noah's antennae! Not sure what will happen from there, though.
- Given that Noah doesn't seem to have hangups about "conventional" social behavior (like that's ever stopped anyone in EGS) I'd see him as being willing.
- Based on when this WMG was posted I'm guessing the OP meant something other than its use in Sister II.
- Okay, maybe not right now, but her new spell is as powerful as Grace's stronger form. Maybe Nanase is the stronger in the group, because she doesn't have Grace's weakness. And yes Justin seems to have convinced her to learn martial arts, but even with Grace's talent to learn fast, I don't think she will be at Elliot or Nanase's level very soon.
- There's no way to tell at this point; we've seen absolutely no reference for comparison to determine relative power levels.
- Not-Tengu was more than the two guardian forms could handle, but we didn't get to see if he could handle Lespuko-powered Grace.
- Remember Mr. Raven's assessment of Grace's power. There is enough hyperbole to suggest Grace is pretty high up there.
- Grace seems to also be able to increase her strength at will. Odds are good that she could probably bulk up if a contest of strength is called for... and remember, Lespuko claws produce poison that can slow regeneration.
- It's explicit that Ellen can undo a M-F transformation (if she's in the mood to do so), it may be possible that she can do a stand-alone F-M transformation. Alternatively, Ellen has that new spell where she can mimic any person/animal that she sees, presumably a male form she could take would be "fully functional". (This admittedly isn't likely, since it would be squicky for BOTH of them)
- As of 2 March 2012, maybe not squicky if the actual goal is having children.
- It would also be possible for them to have children without pregnancy if they went the roaisol route. This would most likely require Grace's help, which many may find rather squicky.
- As of 2 March 2012, maybe not squicky if the actual goal is having children.
- Actually, the other option (Ellen getting Nanase pregnant) seems more likely to me. As mentioned in the comic linked above it would be possible to use the TF-gun to turn one of them male and get the other pregnant. Having Ellen as the "father" is useful since it would provide a ready-made explanation for anyone outside the masquerade. Specifically, they could claim that Nanase got pregnant with artificial insemination and that Elliot was the sperm donor thereby explaining why the kids have a strong family resemblance to Ellen.
- Also, male!Ellen would presumably look like Elliot, who Nanase used to have sweaty post-combat makeout sessions with, so attraction shouldn't be a problem if they have Ellen be the man.
- It would very much be a problem. Nanase made a very distinct point of how she was never physically attracted to Elliot, just trying to become attracted to him. I don't see her being into male!Ellen.
- Also, male!Ellen would presumably look like Elliot, who Nanase used to have sweaty post-combat makeout sessions with, so attraction shouldn't be a problem if they have Ellen be the man.
- Partly Jossed, Tedd is a Seer, a very specialized type of wizard with extremely high magic resistance explaining why his parents thought he didn't have magic powers.
- Further made unlikely by the fact that Mrs. Kitsune has magic potential herself, she just never bothered to build it up.
- Tara says that Nanase "has inside her the blood of queens". Similarly, Andrea mentions that in her half of the world, the royal lines of humanity always have the strongest magic, and it's been mentioned that every member of Nanase's family has powerful magical potential (though not all developed it). What if Nanase's line are descended from the royal bloodlines of the other half of the world? Possibly an illegitimate child was exiled to the other side so they couldn't claim the throne, or someone simply fell through and couldn't figure out how to get back, or any number of other things are possible.
- Given that the default for summoned fairies seems to be "semi-autonomous running off the subconscious", it's actually a little odd that Nanase doesn't yet have the option to animate her dolls this way. And given how much she uses and enjoys the fairy doll and Fox spells, a spell that basically combines the two would be a logical next step.
- No one said she is "completely immune to fire". Her fur is fire retardant, making her less likely to catch on fire, but she can still get burned if exposed to constant flame. The bit about Messiah is more true, though.
- Damien WAS fire, and she mastered him.
- Wasn't it stated that the gun doesn't confer special powers? ex: someone TG'd into Grace wouldn't have her shapeshifting.
- They can still use the gun to turn everyone else into Tedd.
- Most of the way there; the main cast has used Grace and the TF gun to store backup copies of their forms. (And Grace has multiple 'generic' pieces she can put together to form about anyone anyway.)
- They can still use the gun to turn everyone else into Tedd.
- If it's a J, it could also mean Jerry, the only other person she's allowed herself to show any kind of affection for. But, more likely, it's a joking reference to Jeremy, given how she's in Jeremy form in that comic. FURTHERMORE ! Susan has well-known issues with sexuality in general and men in particular. Dog-Justin's tail is wagging as he looks at Elliot. It may be possible that he's showing excitement in other ways and she's staring at Justin's... "body" with fascinated horror.
- Of course, the letter means she likes somebody. In the same comic, Hedge and Dan are also wearing collars and tags, but the tags are blank.
- Add to that the events of Grace's birthday party in which M!Susan and F!Justin made out, you could draw a very strong connection between the two, only stopped by Justin's orientation, which could be dealt with if Susan decided to change gender.
- If you think back to Elliot's lucid dream sequence, you'll remember that he start's fixing problems, and mentions finding a man for Justin and a woman for Susan, and mentioning that maybe that problem could sort itself out by switching their genders. Mayhaps that's the plan?
- Susan doesn't want to be a man, and Justin doesn't want to be a woman. The odds are against that plan.
- like blowing up in a badguy's face as a distraction?
- Support for your theory continues to accrue.
- More hints.
- And it just keeps piling up.
- A bit of foreshadowing that precedes these. Elliot really likes his female goth form. Then consider what Susan's nurture psyche looks like.
- While the WMG is still possible, and the more detailed description has only been jossed in that both Susan and Elliot have separately recognized that there's attraction there, as things currently are both Susan and Elliot have also (also separately) given reasons why they don't feel comfortable with dating the other (at least in the current situation, and Elliot's reasons includes liking the current situation). Elliot has also been given yet another potential love interest. So: still a possible WMG, but it's looking more distant than when those links were made.
- She's already picked up on Elliot's thing for Counselor Troi. Anyone want to guess what else is on that list?
- On the bright side if the above WMG comes true she can always cross off the NOT from "The List Of Things NOT To Do Around Elliot" and have what looks like at least a couple of months planned out.
- Magic changed her hair from blonde
- Semi-Confirmed. It's not a burnout, but her hair now holds a reserve of extra power she can tap in emergencies, and doing so turns her hair back to blonde.
- She's been yearning for a spell to control her hair, her liking Nase so much makes her more likely to get fairy-related spells, and hair-manipulation fairies are a thing in the Shiveverse.
- Even if we take Susan's word that her father was not cheating on her mother before she was born, he definitely cheated on her here, and we have no idea who he may have done after the divorce. Any of those encounters might have born fruit, and a child born from the one documented affair would be old enough by now to be a character in their own right.
- And it's implied here that Susan's Pandoran bloodline comes through her father, meaning that any other children of his would share her Pandoran ancestry, with all its plot implications and ways to force Susan to have to deal with this unwanted relative.
1. It's the sort of thing Elliot wouldn't do.2. Feeling isolated from the people around her was Ellen's big problem, and being more forward about befriending people is a good solution to that.
Naturally, the positive feedback loop of Ellen being outgoing and getting good results from it is a major part in how Ellen has become a different kind of person than Elliot is.
- Keep in mind, however, Ellen has twice as many life experiences as Elliot, due to the magic nose beep; her Character Development shifted due to this, making her a different person.
- While Ellen shows no signs of slowing down, Elliot is definitely loosening up; he made friends with Noah one afternoon, and asked Ashley out shortly after breaking up with Sarah.
- She was able to do so, but she did so by using the "copy" beam on Guardian Nanase, making them identical. Whether this can be repeated without another "Copy" spell is yet to be determined.
- Basically, instead of firing a beam from her hand, she will be able to fire it from her mouth, possibly with the addition of the effect being a broad cone instead of a beam with some splash.
- Even if absorbing the energy from the Diamond shards wouldn't have given Ellen "dragon powers" anyway, she'll probably get something dragon-y for her next spell just because of how badly she wants it. And this would be a good dragon-y spell that also fits Ellen's established transformation beam motif.
- She has the natural FV5 beam she gets by being Diamondborn, but she also apparently has an FV5 beam spell, probably her first post-Awakening spell.
- This is probably why combining her FV5 beam with itself produces a double FV5 effect, when most beams don't work that way. She's not technically combining her FV5 beam with itself, what she's actually doing is combining two different beams into one with both effects. It just happens that both the combined beams have the effect "impose an FV5 transformation", so combining them imposes a double FV5 transformation.
- Ellen's problem wasn't that she has a "young soul", but that she was identifying with memories of someone she no longer was. By giving her a second set of false memories to cover the same time period, the Magic Nose Beep helped her recognize both sets of memories as false, and separate them from her actual memories.
- She is willing to fully forgive everything he did, sympathizing with him to a point of "ends justify the means" — this guy handed her over to be possessed by a body snatcher, with no way of knowing how to make Sirleck leave her body again, possessed her brother, and traumatized Ashley in the process instead of leaving her out of this. Nevermind that Ellen is not in the place to forgive him for all of that because she was not the only person concerned, but why should she forgive him such a nasty thing at all if not because what happened messed with her psyche?
- I think that Tedd's nightmare is about something will happen, next we see some creature talking in Uryuomoco, I think that the grave it's for his father (who is, also, some kind of mentor to the main characters). He will die, probably in hands of a Lespuko and his death will make Tedd surpass the Moral Event Horizon and obsessed with revenge, making him Lord-Tedd, but here is the difference. Grace, knowing the pain of losing someone loved, and will stop Tedd from take revenge and prevent him to become Lord Tedd. Here, the relation will be taken to the next level.
- Just look at Tedd in all these flashbacks where Mr. Verres looks unhappy. He's in what you could call his "default" female form. No exaggerated proportions, nothing furry ... just the same young woman every time who simply looks a lot like her mother. And contrary to seeing a girl growing up looking like her mother, Mr. Verres was simply confronted with this from one day to the other... an adolescent girl who looked just like his ex did back in high school.
- It also explains why Van hides behind Tedd just after he's introduced ... with all this weirdness going on at least one of them looks like his Mum.
- It seems a little weird, even for EGS, that everyone would see detailed messages in the letter instead of just an illegible mess, and Tedd at least should have learned to read his father's handwriting. Plus, considering the amount of exposition the spell generates, it certainly fits Mr. Verres's character. As for why he'd put the spell on a note he was writing to Tedd, it could be accidental spellcasting, or he just wasn't paying attention and zapped the wrong piece of paper, or just grabbed the closest piece of paper for the note and forgot that it was one he'd enchanted earlier. Either way, he'd see the message he intended to write, so there's no easy way for him to notice the mistake.
- It wasn't that she thought she wouldn't disappear if she became an Evil Twin. She just figured she was dying anyway, so she may as well go out in style. Although Magus having a hand does seem plausible.
- It certainly fits with his ability to manipulate emotions. Maybe he figured a crazy Ellen would be more likely to zap Elliot than a sane Ellen would.
- He isn't evil, only was Pandora's Puppet. He will help to defeat Pandora, but after that will discover that he can't go back to his dimension. So, he will stay with one of the main characters until they made a way to send him back. Also, he will become Sirleck's new host.
- That would be great. Seriously. I think Magus is a nice guy.
- Too bad the main characters are unaware of his existence. The only way Magus could become even known to the main eight is through someone who can see beings on the spiritual plane maybe one of the Immortals or possibly Noah.
- By now, they are all aware. Sirleck has tried to make him his new host, but failed. And Magus has proven himself anything but a nice guy — he has given Ellen as a host to Sirleck, possessed Elliot, manipulated Ashley, and completely disregarded Ellen's gender identity for his own twisted reasons, and now she's majorly pissed at him with good reason. Chances that the protagonists will ever make peace with him are pretty damn low.
- Demetrius and Helena only ended up in Paris because they were trying to kill Ellen and chased him to Paris. Had Ellen never been banished to the main universe, they would not have been in a position to spot Susan and Nanase's encounter with the vampire-aberration and to recruit them to kill it. And if that had not happened, everything would have changed. Nanase would have awakened later and under different circumstances, while Susan would probably never have awakened at all. And more importantly, the trauma of having to kill the vampire-aberration was one of the fundamental factors shaping her personality in the main storylines.
- It may be a similar one that makes the magic T-shirts worn by Immortals and other characters work.
- Given Diane's very strong insistence that she does not resemble Susan all that much even when it is pointed out to her, she either is affected by the spell more strongly than others (Susan possibly excepted — at the point of writing, she hasn't had it pointed out to her), or for some reason or the other prefers to pretend there's no real similarity even when more than one person (at more than one time) points it out.
- This page really supports the theory.
- This page shows Diane declaring how determined she is to make Elliot hers.
- It looks like she's on her way. Much to her own shock. Only time will tell if this is a complete confirmation."Screw the rules. I'm drinking tonight."
- Not Diane but Ashley.
- Hamma likes the stun-hammers very much, and while she doesn't yet have the power to recreate the hammer-summoning artifact, giving one person (who has a bloodline affinity for weapon-summoning spells) a mark to summon them should be within her power. She'll need consent, of course, but even with her Character Development Diane would probably not be averse to being able to hammer some of the more obnoxious boys she has to deal with, and that's not even counting the potential to Awaken in time.
- They have the same hair color and similar facial features, and look to be about the same height in the few cases where they're both in the same scene. And if Diane's mother had her in her late teens to early twenties, as Diane believes, that would put her in her late thirties as of the comic's present, which matches up nicely with Cranium's apparent current age.
- Moreover, the fact that Cranium is part of the Moperville branch of the DGB implies that she grew up in the Moperville area. If that was the case, she probably would have crossed paths with Adrian while a teen, and her rare and powerful bloodline affinity would have almost certainly made her one of his "special" students. That kind of close relationship could have produced the kind of feelings that would lead to a one-off affair, while the scandal that would ensue should a teacher/student affair become public would explain why they kept it a one-off. And finally, the scandal and parental wrath that could have easily resulted from an unmarried teen pregnancy would have put Cranium in a very vulnerable position, making it easier for the DGB to strongarm her into their service.
- That would require Adrian, who's an elf of several hundred years of age and extremely protective towards his students, to actually be short-sighted and callous enough to start an affair with his teenaged student and leaving her to deal alone with all of the problems ensuing.
- For all we know, Cranium's magical powers are in the field of "observing places without entering them". Nobody ever said she was great with magical weapons, which is Susan's and Diane's definite affinity that seems to be prevalent in their bloodline. When Cranium is arresting Abraham, she's also seen with a wand, not with a weapon.
- Under this theory, Diane would get her bloodline affinity for magic weapons from Adrien, not Cranium. Either Adrien's affinity for magic weapons displaced Cranium's affinity for remote observation spells, or Diane has both affinities and nobody has noticed because the remote observation affinity is hard to detect.
- She has the right hair color and general appearance, and this comic's title implies that she is supposed to very closely resemble Susan, which would also make her resemble Diane.
- And we know Susan's father strongly resembles Adrian Raven, so if this woman was attracted to one she would probably be attracted to the other.
- In The Legend of Diane #27 she seems to get a weird burst of speed when trying to catch up with Lucy, so much so that she has to stop herself from running past Lucy. So might increased agility be part of her quarter-elf capabilities? Supported by the fact that she is such a great cheerleader?
- Diane is Pandora's granddaughter, and as such she and any descendants she might have will have an innate affinity for spells which summon magical weapons. But if she remains paired with Lucy she is exponentially less likely to have descendants, cutting off a rare chance to create more hunter bloodlines. We've seen already that Demetrius and Helena will do dubiously ethical things to get more hunters into circulation, and it's not that much of a stretch that they might try and break up Diane and Lucy's relationship so as to facilitate using her to breed new hunter bloodlines.
- Raven says here that he was "definitely" why Edward and Noriko's marriage couldn't be saved.
- Plus it would help explain why Edward ended up with sole custody of Tedd.
- Also, note that in the "Oblivious Wand-Waving" storyline, we see Raven get turned into a woman. Two strips (and zero further wand-waves) later, we find out that Tess's parents are still together in that particular timeline.
- Unlikely. We know that Raven was Edward's, Noriko's, and Mrs. Kitsune's teacher in High School, and he doesn't seem like the type who'd hook up with someone he knew from adolescence on.
- Van and Ted are confirmed to be half-siblings, Van's mom is a "monster hunter", half of Van's hair is a shade of grey that pretty closely matches the one used for Nanase's hair when it's supposed to be red, and it's highly unlikely that Tedd would never have met Van if he were Edward's child. All of this strongly implies that Van is Noriko's child.
- As for Adrian being the other half of the equation, the other half of Van's hair is black, and he's almost exactly the right age to have been born just after Noriko's apparent affair with Adrian.
- Except if Noriko had an affair with Adrian and wrecked her marriage over it, why wouldn't she tell Adrian that he has a kid? Because he definitely didn't know that he could produce any.
- Possibly Noriko and Adrien got caught either in the act of adultery that produced Van (or else immediately after), such that she didn't realize she was pregnant with Van until after the whole thing blew up and everyone had parted ways and burnt their bridges.
- Except if Noriko had an affair with Adrian and wrecked her marriage over it, why wouldn't she tell Adrian that he has a kid? Because he definitely didn't know that he could produce any.
- All Adrien's descendants inherit the Pandoran bloodline affinity for magical weapons, meaning that each additional child he sires represents dozens or hundreds of potential extra hunters on the timescales on which immortals work. And we know that these two are willing to do dubiously ethical things to get more hunters in play.
- I thought this was what we were meant to assume. Note that they both have really weird eyes. As well, we know that there's something mystic going on with Noah—based on Raven's favoritism, most likely a form of magic. This was translated as Archie being a chimera. Anyway, the resemblance is strong enough that they likely correspond.
- Dan has hinted Noah's significance with a lot of other things too, so Archie would just be another part of that.
- Another point of commonality is that it is strongly implied that they are the only two male non-virgins. Archie explicitly, and Noah strongly suggested.
- This kind of fits with the theory that Noah is this universe's version of Archie.
- He has hair tails that move; we might have a confirmed here.
- The hair moving might just be a sign that he turned his head.
- Raven's reaction to Grace all but directly confirms it.
- Not necessarily. Remember, she avenged his parents, and the realization of her part in the matter, especially after learning about her normal behavior, could have been something of a shock.
- He has hair tails that move; we might have a confirmed here.
- It's now confirmed that Noah is a chimera and the "ponytail" is his antennae. Whether he's a greater chimera and/or Archie remains to be seen.
- There's some pretty strong Foreshadowing when Mr. Verres tells Justin to "Keep the circle at eight." Now it turns out that Noah has magical powers and is being trained under Raven. Noah also knows about ASMA, and about Shade Tail/Grace. Conditions are too strong for it not to happen.
- He and Elliot still haven't gotten their TV stands. In the car together on the way to Swedekea is the ideal place for Elliot to let Noah in on things and for Noah to share some of his Back Story.
- Probably not. Moreover, Dan's not going to go into someone being seriously Trans beyond the extent that Ellen is, mostly because transformation isn't a huge deal in the comic anymore, and gender is so fluid it pretty much doesn't exist for some characters (most notably Elliot).
- Furthermore, what Noah wanted to ask Justin questions, not tell him something, as we saw during his conversation with Raven. It probably has something to do with magic, considering that Raven is the one who wants Noah to talk to him.
- Extremely unlikely. Melissa with her attitude towards Justin's homosexuality ("it's just a phase, you'll grow out of it") wouldn't have started a relationship with someone who identifies as a girl.
- Additionally, he seems to be quite familiar with one 'Shade Tail' to the point where he automatically referred to her as "Mistress, ma'am". To top it off, he seems to have a memory of a quite different version of Grace. This is different from Lord Tedd's 'Shade Tail' who is male. Also, note the bloody sword. I can't imagine the Grace we know using a deadly weapon like that.
- Unlikely; Justin wasn't attracted to Tedd due to his feminine appearance. He's attracted to masculinity.
- While it's often assumed that Noah and Melissa are having sex, all Noah actually said was that they "provide close comfort and pleasure" for each other. Given that Noah's strongly implied to be a tulougol seyunolu, who are often more interested in hugs and cuddles than in true sex, it's quite probable that that's what Noah was referring to and he had no idea how Elliot was taking his words. Moreover, Melissa is still very much in love with Justin (or was at that point, at least), which would make it rather odd for her to be having sex with someone else.
- The WMG is still on the table, but Noah not being into physical closeness beyond hugs and cuddles is Jossed; Word of God replied to the question if Noah is asexual that he is, quite the contrary, pansexual.
- Noah has been very strongly implied to be a tulougol seyunolu, and it's been specifically stated that it would be extremely difficult for a tulougol to develop human magic. Nevertheless, Noah very clearly has at least some magic. Given that Noah's parents were apparently part of the group who created Damien, it's quite possible that Noah was likewise an experiment, one intended to create a tulougol seyunolu with access to human-style magic.
- Noah is noted to look extremely androgynous, more so even than Tedd, which may imply that he was created using both male and female genetic sources.
- As mentioned above, Noah clearly has magic despite it being very difficult for a seyunolu to build up their human magic. It's stated that Noriko's family line always has powerful magic, regardless of whether they've done anything to build it up.
- Noah apparently believes he has the authority to knight people, something that under modern conventions only royalty can do. According to Tara, Nanase is of Royal Blood.
- Due to Grace's sheltered upbringing, this will fail. They will instead bond over My Little Pony: Friendship Is Magic.
- She seems to be a real Chess Master, even with her habit to be a little too Chaotic. She could have made the scenario to make Grace's "Grandfather" to use her death daughter's DNA and ruin the project, making it seem like a "car accident" and it was so well made that even Mr. Verres thought that it was an accident. She also has used Magus power to convince Grace to go to Tedd's house to make both of them fall in love. The reason isn't clear yet, but it could be to make her pregnant and steal the baby to raise him/her as The Antichrist, or it is related with Lord Tedd.
- Or just to stop Tedd from becoming powerful enough to interfere with her plans.
- If she wanted to impede Tedd, helping him realize his potential as a Seer would have been counter productive.
- Or just to stop Tedd from becoming powerful enough to interfere with her plans.
- Whoever made this may be onto something here, I was going through the New and Old Flames arc and found something that implied that Arthur knows about her scheme. Go to panel 4 and read what Arthur says carefully and consider what happened to Dex, Justin and Rhoda. You may now say Holy $#!+.
- Arthur is attempting to conceal the availability of magic; he may be sacrificing a pawn (the knowledge of Magic's reality) in order to protect the higher-level pieces (keep the buttons for the nukes away from the general population) from Pandora's Indy Ploy.
- Of all the Magus in existence, only one, and only one appear to have been trapped, and Pandora seems to know a lot about how help him. So, she trapped Magus in immortal's dimension and make him think that was his "friend" who sabotage him.
- This one's extremely likely, given her "an egg fell from his nest" speech a short while later. She probably needed someone like him, so she arranged his teleport accident.
- But...that's the only kind she could have!
- If do not take into account survival of her personality, she may go through rebirth.
- Or... you know... she's overdue for a death. She's explicitly mentioned being bored and wishing for entertainment.
- "Pandora" and "Raven" represent things about herself that she wishes to keep: Her love of adventure and the unknown, her curiosity, her love for her family. "Chaos", on the other hand, very much symbolizes the aspects of herself that she wishes to get rid of: her sociopathy, her rage, the willingness to wreck the world from boredom. And finally, "Box" symbolizes her friendship with Sarah, something that she will wish to nurture and develop.
- The alternate version of Not-Tengu, perhaps? Assuming he was still after Noriko in the Alpha Universe.
As for the second part, the ominous words in the strip, when translated, reads; "Death. It Is Time For The End Of Man. This Master of Fire Shall Inherit The Earth. My Very Presence Eatyc Awai(a?) At Your Flesh". Now, "eatyc awaia" aren't words. I have come up with two ideas about what they could mean; awaia is a typo of "awaits"; this doesn't allow "eatyc" to mean anything. If this is true, it becomes "Death. It Is Time For The End Of Man. This Master of Fire Shall Inherit The Earth. My Very Presence Awaits At Your Flesh." If we assume "my very presence" to be Lord Tedd's, the pieces fall into place. The other idea is that "eatyc awaia" means "eats away", which would be guilt... but that's a slightly different theory.
- I always assumed it was "eats away", and since it does say "flesh", that implies literalism more than a spiritual metaphor. (I thought it had something to do with Damien's fire power before realizing it was supposed to be Lord Tedd and not some defeated/otherworldly version of Damien.)
- Eatyc is probably an undocumented cluster rule issue, while awai may be a typo.
Alternately, Damien might have killed the male or female doppelganger of Elliot in Lord Tedd's world. Think back to how Tedd reacted here and here and imagine what Damien's killing of his best friend (or lover) would have done to him, particularly if he blamed his kindness and non-combatant status for that loss.
- Sounds likely. I'd think Damien was already dead, though, considering General Shade Tail is around and apparently kicking ass (especially likely if "Lord Tedd" isn't an empty title).
- Sounds very likely. Let's assume that Damien pulled the same thing in the Lord Tedd 'verse and wiped out the chimera project when Shadetail was still a small child, then took Shadetail under his wing. Shadetail, in that universe an aggressive young man, is influenced by Damien's A God Am I attitude, and takes after him, becoming a Card-Carrying Villain. Then he takes a Klingon Promotion, and we've got a Big Bad much worse than Damien on our hands. That meshes fine with the Lord Tedd theory, assuming that Damion got to Tedd through Tedd's father's work spying on the chimera project, and he breaks Lord Tedd before Shadetail kills Damien and moves into his position. As it's been established that Shadetail may be pulling Lord Tedd's strings.
- Alternately, Shadetail didn't take the Klingon Promotion, and there's another level to the intrigue surrounding Lord Tedd, or the Damien/Tedd hybrid theory is correct.
- Maybe Damien conquered the world and Lord Tedd took it over from him?
- World or not, it seems they are or (more likely) were enemies in something like a chimera civil war — maybe Lord Tedd is an Evil Overlord, but when compared with Damien, well... even before Nioi's influence.
- Alternatively - he shared THE SAME second life - this little Tedd that had a crush on Ellen was him.
- Supported by the fact that Alternate!Tedd shares Lord Tedd's hairstyle.
- Second alternate: Lord Tedd is an aged-up and buff duplicate of the original Alpha Tedd, getting his soul aged by Nioi. Beta Tedd hasn't figured this out yet, and Nioi decided that Ellen would likely react badly if she found out.
- Alternatively, the "kill weak Tedd" could be due to Lord Tedd wanting to prevent any other Tedds from becoming another Lord Tedd. If he is trying to stop something from happening to Ellen/Elliot, it's possible Lord Tedd directly caused it to happen, and wants to make sure he's not around to cause it in any other universe.
Okay, let's say Damien and the rest of the Quirky Miniboss Squad converged on Moperville, and took it over with Shade Tail's help. Ellen and Tedd realized they had to stop him, so they organized a resistance-which failed horribly, and succeeded only because Shade Tail turned traitor because he wanted the power for himself. Somewhere along the way, Tedd lost an arm and made a replacement out of the TF gun. Ellen and Tedd eventually got close enough to Damien to kill him, but lost Ellen in the process, causing a major stress-induced awakening in Tedd that drove him insane and killed Damien. The now deranged Tedd became Lord Tedd, and gained immense power over his world, to the point that he could refer to Shade Tail, his now-subordinate, as "General." He created Nioi because he was lonely, and Nioi-after seeing, somehow, what Lord Tedd could become if Shade Tail corrupted him further, noticed her clone Kaoli (or she created her intentionally, see WMG on Kaoli's creation above) and used magic to catapult her into the past, at the same time planning to plant memories of Kaoli and Alternate!Ellen and Tedd in Ellen's head as a weapon to use against Lord Tedd if he became too corrupted and tried to attack the EGS-verse, or any other universes.
As for why he sent the Goo, I think he has a Noein-ish motive-he was convinced by Nioi to eliminate the suffering of the other Tedds by sending monsters to strengthen them or give them allies to fall back on in case something threatened to make them like Lord Tedd. I know it's a lot of Xanatos Hyperspeed Chess I'm expecting of Nioi, but what do we really know about her?
As for the thing in Tedd's dream, I have no clue. Maybe it's an ally of Pandora?
On that note, there's a lot of WMGs about Tedd.
- And she gets killed in the course of these adventures, leading to Lord Tedd's breakdown and change of heart.
- Alternately, she's from after he pulls a Heel–Face Turn. She knows he's not that bad because she's seen the good in him, even after he became Lord Tedd. She contacted the main cast to let them know that he could be redeemed, so when they finally meet him, Defeat Means Friendship will happen instead of Karmic Death. Stable Time Loop!
- Since time travel doesn't exist in the EGS multiverse but visiting time displaced dimensions is possible there are implications for this WMG. If Nioi is from before Lord Tedd's transformation then she came from an Alpha-like Universe which is "behind" the one whose Lord Tedd sent the Goo. If Lord Tedd pulled a Heel–Face Turn prior to Nioi arrival then either that happened between the second Goo fight and Nioi's arrival (which was about a month) or he did so in a different Alpha-like Universe which is "ahead" of the main universe. The specifics of when or if Lord Tedd's Heel–Face Turn took place determines if it is possible for Nioi to be actually from the same universe as the one whose Lord Tedd sent the Goo.
- Hmm... Made more likely by the fact that every Tedd we've seen but Lord Tedd has had an Elliot close at hand. Three out of five Tedds have had crushes on their Elliot’s, and two out of those three have ended up in romantic relationships with their Elliot’s. Could have been foreshadowed by Beta Tedd bringing up the subject of Elliot's alternate, especially if the thread directly below turns out to be right, and Beta is evil. Elliot does seem to be a strong common Tedd factor that Lord Tedd is missing.
- Dan has also said that most of the time, Elliot and Tedd end up together in universes where they are compatible.
- Alpha Shadetail may have killed Alpha Elliot/Ellen, as with Damien and (plausibly) Dr Sciuridae, making the only difference "Grace [Sr] didn't die".
- In fast, "kill weak Tedd" can easily be translated as "kill Tedd if he's weak", and the fact all Tedds survived just means that none are.
- Of course, it's also possible that beta Tedd is either part of the test or just plain wrong.
- This tropers theory is that BETA is evil, and LT isn't. All LT info that says he's bad comes from Beta, so how can we trust him?
- Grace found a still of Beta Tedd unaccountably creepy.
- Um... no she didn't. She found the still of Lord Tedd creepy.
- Alternatively, given that we've seen that Ted has begun to construct his own sinister gauntlet, 'Kill weak Tedd' may not mean a test: the dangerous threat the goo poses is meant to start the 'weak' Tedds on the path to becoming 'strong' like Lord Tedd sees himself.
- Of course, it's also possible that beta Tedd is either part of the test or just plain wrong.
- Or that the secondary form of the goos is meant to control the Tedds. It would explain the "High powered squishable" form. And an army of The Virus controlled wacky mad scientists is nothing to sneeze at.
- Maybe Lord Tedd just wants to make sure that all his alternate counterparts will be strong enough to stop whatever happened in his universe.
- ...that is, Damien?
- That would also explain the whole "prepared set of curse words" thing. The Goo didn't need to feel anger, but to make it seem like a threat, it would have to appear as pretty obviously dangerous. Since the Goo was semi-sentient (as evidenced by the fact that it could hold a discussion on logic with Ellen), it couldn't just be programed to swear—it had to be taught to swear, and pretend to be dangerous. Yes, I understand that it was comic relief. However, that arc happened in the transition phase where EGS was only half taking itself seriously, and it's not the first time Dan's made a Retcon to develop a one-off joke and/or complexify a backstory.
- Still, that one picture...
- Another possibility — its Grace's fault
- The person in those links is not Grace, it's General Shade Tail, the person Grace would have become had her human donor not been Dr. Sciuridae's daughter Grace. With her not ever existing in that universe, she's hardly at fault for anything.
- Nioi's Lord Tedd is not the same Lord Tedd who's menaced the cast from afar. She's unaware of this, which is why she thinks they're misunderstanding her kindly Lord.
- There could (of course) be more than one Lord Tedd even if the only one we've seen so far has been Nioi's Lord Tedd. Our Tedd had a nightmare about turning into Lord Tedd, so the potential is probably there for every Tedd to turn into a Lord Tedd.
- Seems plausible to me. The other is less bulky, more androgynous, and the more evil one doesn't appear to be wearing the necklace/pendant the nicer Lord Tedd is.
- This would also imply that there are two General Shade Tails.
- But, maybe, just ONE Nioi...
- This would also imply that there are two General Shade Tails.
- She says he "started out shorter and grew up taller" than our Tedd, which is in keeping with Tedd's dream with the gravestone- he starts by wondering "why am I so short?" and then turns into Lord Tedd. This, of course, implies that either Lord Tedd is a product of the diamond, or that a copy of him was made at some point, which Nioi "nose beeped" into the dream-world with Ellen and Kaoli.
- Using only confirmed info, Second-Life Tedd can't be Lord Tedd since Lord Tedd is Nioi's master and Second-Life Tedd was part of a universe in which Kaoli existed in place of Nioi. That is not to say that Lord Tedd didn't have a youth that was similar to Second-Life Tedd's, only that they can't be the exact same person. However, if one assumes there are two Lord Tedd's it brings up the possibility that the evil-looking Lord Tedd had Kaoli as his servant while the kind-looking one had Nioi and thus evil-looking Lord Tedd would be the same person as Second-Life Tedd in that case.
- Why? well, first of all, we have Grace's Evil, Hot and male counterpart as his general. Later, we have the alternate Tedd with Ellen as his girlfriend. So, in some points, these universes are pretty similar in some points, in others, they are pretty different, Specially in Tedd's friends, and maybe, Lord Tedd's universe is, except for Ellen's existence and Nioi, pretty similar to the hero's universe. Now, in some point Tedd's started to become evil but not heartless so, I don't think that he has killed his friends. I think that maybe, they become part of his army (you can't be called "lord" without one) and they are pretty much powerful (and a little different) that the main characters. If we think that Nioi is Ellen's EvilCounterpart then there will be some other. And I think that they are the opposite, like:
- Alpha universe's Elliot = more wild and less mature.
- Alpha universe's Nanase = Not lesbian and with spell for fights instead of all those "hiding spells" that Nanase hated so much. She never broke with Elliot.
- Alpha universe's Tiffany = she doesn't hate men, the opposite, she loves them. Oh, and she is expert in the use of a lot of weapons, with an entire arsenal to choose. She doesn't dye her hair.
- Alpha universe's Justin = heterosexual, and more...aggressive.
- Alpha universe's Sarah = with her, I have a crazy theory (yes, more crazy than the things I wrote before). First of all, she never becomes Elliot's girlfriend, because Elliot never loved her, but Nanase. So, she decided to give up with men forever, started to practice martial arts, with Justin as her personal trainer, harder and harder to be as powerful as Elliot or Nanase, and make an important, ask Tedd...TO MAKE HER A MALE PERMANENTLY! that way, she will never have any hope like with Elliot. In exchange, Sarah's become, after Shade Tail, his first soldier and most powerful soldier, again, except for Shade Tail. So, these "Sarah" is a lot more powerful and useful than the main character's universe.
- Aaand, yes. Nioi says that maybe Shade Tail's the one corrupting Lord Tedd, but remember when Ellen mentioned that she thinks that Tedd is pretty and she (and Elliot the first, time being woman) would date with him if she has the opportunity. Now, with Nioi, if she is Ellen's evil counterpart, and she and Lord Tedd seem to have some kind of relationship and, if we combine these things together, Wellll...
- Any particular reason you're switching sexualities and not genders?
- Well, remember the grave; I stand by the theory that Lord Tedd's Elliot is dead. But of course, the others are the other "pets" that General Shadetail alluded to! Hmmm... Sarah is male, and named Sam. He's become an expert in Uryuom and other advanced technology to compensate for not having magic like the others. Why yes, I am being influence by his resemblance◊ to Quatre.
- Alternately, Pandora mentions that she should have been there for Tedd when his mother left, but admits that she probably wouldn't have been a terribly good influence. What if Lord Tedd is what would have happened if Pandora (still in full Chaos mode) had stepped in to "help" a uniquely vulnerable Tedd?
- Believing that she'd killed Ellen sent her off the deep end, causing her to cut herself off from any other friendships and become obsessed with power and control so she could never be hurt again. She shifted to male for the physical strength (and perhaps as some kind of warped tribute to her Ellen), delved into magic and magitek on a level unprecedented even in her society, and set out to conquer the world.
- The timeline's a little tight, but there are at least a few years between when Ellen Magus was sent to this world and when the Goo first appeared (since the "accident" happened before the Paris trip, which was the summer after Susan's freshman year). Or of course time could flow at different speeds in the two worlds, which would solve the whole problem of timescale.
- That's why its Ellen and Tedd are so afraid of Lord Tedd, their dimension is directly connected to his. Plus the Alpha-Beta name pattern supports it.
- Nioi introduces herself as the "voluntary servant" of Lord Tedd, which strongly implies that Lord Tedd has involuntary servants, and that Nioi expects people will think she is one. There's also General Shade Tail's reference to Lord Tedd's "pets", and the fact that Nioi is shown wearing a collar and tag with what looks like Lord Tedd's mark on it.
- Tedd has so many issues, I doubt this one would have any discernible effect. His dad is an MIB!!
- He glows when in love, his inventions work despite many reasons why they should not, Mr. Verres "knows a lot about Immortals" (no explanation), and he keeps turning into a girl. Tedd's mother is obviously some kind of Fairy.
- Let me rephrase that: if Tedd's mother is a lesbian, his yuri fetish betrays serious issues.
- Really? I wonder if much of Tedd's self-declared perversion is really just posturing. Note the way the guy who claims to love 'hot lesbians' panicked when he discovered Ellen and Nanase snuggling on his couch.
- Nanase is his cousin, remember.
- His 'ugly cousin'.
- If his mother was straight, him liking porn featuring straight women wouldn't betray serious issues; why would it be so for a lesbian mother and yuri?
- Really? I wonder if much of Tedd's self-declared perversion is really just posturing. Note the way the guy who claims to love 'hot lesbians' panicked when he discovered Ellen and Nanase snuggling on his couch.
- Another solution, Tedd's mother is bisexual. After she left Tedd and Mr. Verres in order to better pursue a career she entered a lesbian relationship, Mrs. Kitsune heard about it and said things about lesbians disgusting her out of anger caused by her sister leaving Tedd.
- Other than, you know, Susan being a Straw Feminist and Tedd being proof she's right.
- Seers are "essentially genetic", so if both of Noriko's children are Seers, Noriko almost has to be as well. And we know that there are two Seers who have used magic but accidentally invalidated themselves as judges by discovering the second function of Seers, one of whom could easily have been Noriko.
- On top of that, this might explain why Edward and Noriko split up. As a Seer, Noriko never gets spells of her own (though she can learn the spells of others), and Edward would almost have to have known about that quirk. If he reached the conclusion that Tedd had inherited his "magical impairment" from her, that could have soured their relationship.
- Go back and re-read the two previous strips. Noah's parents are dead. Mr. Raven must be his guardian. But the possibility that Noah has elf ancestry still stands. The case for Tedd is weaker since Dan has all but outright stated that Tedd's mother and Nanase's mother are sisters.
- Which doesn't rule out elf ancestry, either with half-sisters or simply Nanase's mother not showing it. Also, see this strip. Note Jerry's pause in the second panel right before he says father...
- Maybe Tedd and Noah are also related, and Raven is their uncle?
- Noah and Raven being related has been specifically Jossed and Raven being his guardian has been specifically confirmed.
- Jossed: Half-immortals cannot have children.
- Un-Jossed: Yes, they can.
- Everyone's focusing on how obvious a Manipulative Bastard Tom is. The really dangerous ones are those who everyone - including the readers - can operate Beneath Suspicion. Remember, we don't know who's using the "Ronin" screen name to spread rumors about Elliot. It could still be her.
- She's not Ronin.
- Dan drawing her as a Mareep might be hinting she's a Bitch in Sheep's Clothing.
- Keep writing these, at this rate Dan's going to make Ashley some sort of embodiment of good in the EGS 'verse.
- Confirmed, Ashley being absurdly good that is.
- Marks can only be given to those that have a want for the specific spell, and Ashley is definitely interested in that.
- Her name is meaningful, but not chosen for it's meaning. Ashley is a unisex name.
- She's definitely unaware of the mark, or she'd have mentioned her spell to Elliot when she saw him. She probably doesn't have it because
- the background colour of the mark is grey, and if the backgrounds are related to the colour scheme of their owners, so either she doesn't have it yet and the greyscale is to signify this or
- This WMG has been one upped: Ashley has become a ‘‘wizard’’ with a sentient talking wand!
- Why?
- Ashley is a wizard, which means she has fae blood somewhere in her ancestry.
- Zeus specifically mentioned that Jerry passed on the knowledge that elves can themselves have children because he wanted Zeus to be a "responsible successor", which could easily mean that Jerry had descendants, knew who they were, and passed the knowledge on to his reincarnation.
- And it would just be hilarious to see Zeus struggling with parental feelings towards Ashley.
- Guardian forms probably can't be copied normally, but Ashley is already a goody-two-shoes of the highest order, so she might actually be able to learn it.
- Ashley is a very weak wizard though. Nanase can use the angel spell only because she has a lot of magical energy at her disposal. Ashley might learn it, but there's no telling if she could ever use it.
- Archie from Ellen's dreamlife demonstrates that seyunolus can reproduce, and that the offspring will themselves be seyunolus.
- Ashley has mentioned that she doesn't know much about her family history, so it's possible that she could have Uryuom ancestry a few generations back without knowing it.
- Those tendril things at the front of her head look a little too stiff and angular to be hair, but they are just about right for antennae. They are also remarkably expressive.
- Ashley apparently registers as a wizard despite having virtually no magic power. Tulougol seyunolus give a false positive on Awakening to the magic analysis wand, and have minimal potential for human magic.
- Ashley strongly dislikes people trying to define or label her, and has extensive transformation fetishes (both self- and others-), both of which could suggest the influence of shapeshifter heritage on her psychology.
- When Sarah tried to shrink Ashley with the Drumstick Wand, Ashley shrank to 1/8 her original volume. Grace was able to shrink by the same amount, but when Sarah tried the spell on herself, she only grew by a factor of 2.
- Ashley was also told the spell could shrink her by half-size, so it would not be improbable for her to get size and scale mixed up and picture herself shrunk to 1/2 scale.
- As a wizard, Ashley must have immortal ancestry somewhere in her family tree, but the fae are not the only species of immortal. And Ashley has been repeatedly noted to have goodness inherent in her nature in a way that few others do, suggesting that goodness may literally be In the Blood for her.
- Bonus points if she's compared to the Aasimar race from D&D in the same way Diane could be compared to the Half-Elf race.
- Even if she's not a seyunolu or Dreaming (yet), hair dye exists in the Shiverse, just like in ours. And it would be perfectly in character for someone as transformation-happy as Ashley to frequently and casually change one of the few things she can change about her appearance.
- Before Tedd and Kevin can do anything else with regard to training Ashley, they're going to need to build up her magic to the point where she Awakens. Anime-Style Martial Arts has already been shown to be remarkably effective at building up magic levels.
- In addition, if Ashley is going to be Elliot's girlfriend, she may end up running afoul of evil monkeys, crazy griffins, Taurcani Draco, or who knows what else, and need the skills to defend herself.
- And, as Elliot knows, the adrenaline rush from sparring makes an excellent prelude to another kind of physical activity.
- Ashley "plays ballet and dances soccer", which should mean that she has the base physical conditioning necessary for martial arts (ballet in particular demands a lot of the same physical capabilities as martial arts).
- Both of her "embarrassment fantasies" involved getting shrunk, and when Elliot asked for her input on his transformation, she requested that his form be smaller than her.
- They have been together for several months before she realized what a manipulative snake he is, and there probably is a reason for her holding such a deep grudge against him besides having wasted her time with a jerk. That is what she meant when she was talking about a sandwich here and what she was referring to when she said Tom's goal was for Susan to ask him out "among other things".
- Seers are "essentially genetic", but there are apparently other x-factors that keep it from being something quite that easily anticipated. So, given that both of Noriko Verres's children are Seers, there is probably Seer potential in her family somewhere, but Noriko herself may not necessarily be a Seer.
- It's been repeatedly stated that every member of her lineage has powerful magical potential, and Mrs. Kitsune clearly knows about magic. Further, Agent Cranium seems to respect her, at least enough to manipulate Nanase and Ellen into keeping up the Mutual Masquerade at her request. And yet Mrs. Kitsune has never been shown to actually use magic. Seers don't get spells of their own, and cannot directly cast those they learn from others.
- Moreover, this would have provided an initial point of friction between Mrs. Kitsune and Mrs. Verres to help explain why she sided so strongly with Edward Verres post-separation. Presumably, their parents would have tested them both with the loud magic analysis wand or something similar, and Mrs. Kitsune would (probably) have not resisted it as Tedd did. So both sisters would have shown impressive magical potential, but to all appearances Mrs. Kitsune's potential would have inexplicably failed to manifest while Mrs Verres's did so spectacularly.
- This would also provide a reason why Noriko felt the need to test Tedd with the loud magic analysis wand when he was still a baby, long before he could possibly start learning magic, and why she was so frantic when it indicated zero potential. By this point, her sister's "magical impairment" would have become obvious, and she must have been terrified that Tedd would (and apparently did) inherit it.
- The fact that she wasn't included in magic's seer conference would seem to argue against it. She clearly has at least some knowledge of magic so would presumably meet the requirements of being a seer who knows about magic but doesn't know the purpose of seers.
- We don't actually know that she doesn't know the purpose of seers. We know she's got a lot of information she is keeping to herself, the secondary purpose of seers could be part of it. Especially since we know there are two seers who know of magic but invalidated themselves by discovering this secondary function.
- As mentioned above, Mrs. Kitsune comes from a long line of monster hunters and powerful mages, she clearly knows about magic, and Agent Cranium respects her enough to manipulate Nanase and Ellen into keeping up the Mutual Masquerade despite being uncomfortable with it. And yet we have never seen her actually use magic. Moreover, despite her sister's and eldest daughter having red hair, she and her younger daughter have black hair, the same shade of black that Nanase's hair turns when she burns out.
- So let use suppose that she initially had magic comparable to her sister's, and developed it normally. But at some point shortly after Nanase's birth there was an incident, a monster attack or accident or disaster that required her to draw on her magic to an even greater degree than Nanase did against Abraham. And as a result, she not only permanently burnt out her own capacity for magic, but quite possibly burnt out her capacity to pass it on to her children.
- It remains WMG. Feel free to elaborate.
- His statements here (remember, the context is Tedd deciding to own his femininity by cutting his hair and dying it pink, and the further context is this being the storyline where Tedd realizes they're genderfluid) make me think he's talking about a more physical kind of change than simply realizing he's gay. Also, he's being drawn with subtly more androgynous features now than when he first appeared, which could also point towards a transition in the other direction, but the linked page sounds like he's talking about something in his distant past. On the other hand, I might be reading too much into a single short conversation.
- Highly unlikely. Grace picked up on Sam immediately and asked him about his beard. George has a visible beard, too, and Grace knows him way longer than she knows Sam — her misconcepton of "a woman growing a beard" would have come up much earlier, and she would have learned about transgenders through him, not through some obscure, entirely new side character.
- Regarding the above point, we're not told exactly how Grace detected Sam was AFAB, but in the absence of evidence, it seems a bit of a leap to conclude she has infallable gender-assigned-at-birth-dar.
- "Who is Ellen?" implies that George is intrigued by the idea of male-to-female transformation but uncomfortable about admitting it, which doesn't necessarily Joss the above, but makes it really complicated.
- Can't be. The Emissary told Pandora that he only knows who Grace is when he uses that dream communication spell, and George knows Grace outside of that.
- Or: Catalina is a were-bobcat and has yet to undergo her First Change (or however natural pure-human shifters work in this universe).
- They're half-skunks?
- No. Proxians are half-dragon. Nioi and Kaoli might be beastfolk, though...
If this is true, it would indicate that Agent Wolf's habit of pointing out how obviously alien Lavender is isn't just him being Agent Mulder: it's him telling her to seriously consider getting a better Human form, as there are obviously better ones out there. Or maybe he's just teasing her about how bad she is at morphing.
- Or, Elliot might be able to teach her something.
- Or, she'll start taking regular martial arts lessons.
- At Greg's Real Martial Arts Studio
- Or, she'll start taking regular martial arts lessons.
- More recently, from the latest Q&A:Chika: Amanda, go change into something alluring but appropriate that doesn't make it look like you don't know how to dress yourself. I will answer questions while you do.
Amanda: But I don't know what that is!
Lisa: [rushing to their sides] I'LL HELP!
Chika: Of course you will.
- AND they're the grown up gamer girls
- To add to it, Dr. Physics Professor is really Dr. Germahn, just a younger version of him who hasn't figured magic into his equations yet.
- Confirmed? They're not the gamer girls though.
- And she hates Noriko because of the events that occurred in Usagi Yojimbo Volume 21 The Mother of Mountains.
- The horns are very similar to the ones Grace had when her Lespuko morph surfaced.
- While initially a running gag, the duck's presence and role at Grace's birthday party filled out what would have otherwise been a one-dimensional character.
- He is a master of illusion, to the point where even tactile sensation is available; Tedd verified that this would require a lot of energy to manage.
- He has the ability to know when he is needed, the clairvoyance to know what's happening there, and the power to teleport himself there instantly.
- Perhaps the biggest indication that we haven't seen the last of the duck is that he came back for Hammerchlorians and made it out much better than the hammers.
- Pandora killed them herself when they tried to stop her.
- Or she killed them for what they made Susan and Nanase do in France.
- Guilt from tricking Nanase and Susan in France caused them to kill themselves in an effort to hide from their shame.
- Killed by the former Mrs. Verres for putting Nanase in danger.
- Killed by Mrs. Kitsune for endangering her daughter.
- Forced to reset after breaking the Immortal rules.
- Had already started to reset when they spotted the aberration, and took too long to deal with it.
- Murdered by Voltaire because he knew they were onto him and tried to have them forget about it.
- The smoke wizard Grace meets; their smoke spell is applied via a wand or mark, no inherent spell.
- Mrs. Kitsune; she's got the pedigree.
- Tom; he hasn't shown any magical potential, and he's definitely the type who'd use his knowledge to try and manipulate someone — which would make him ineligible for the vote.
- Elliot's and Ellen's parents. We've never seen them use magic, yet they don't seem the least bit fazed by all the strangeness around their kids.
- He also considers himself a great manipulator, and has been severely humiliated by a failure of his manipulations.
- And now that Pandora is out of the picture (and considering she is not really malicious and wouldn't have given him a Mark so dangerous), it will be Voltaire who marks him.
- Alternatively, in the same vein, illusions. I think it fits more with the theme of manipulation than mind control, which to me speaks more of straight up domination. He's already shown a preference for hiding himself.
- The reason she never mentioned gender dysphoria is that before she was zapped, it didn't bear mentioning next to all the other pain (she may have not even noticed it at all), and after she was zapped, it wasn't there anymore. This comic in particular — in the fourth panel, she starts off justifying being fine with being a girl as "it's okay if it means I can be human", but her next statements imply that this isn't her real reason. (That said, the probability of this ever being story-relevant, much like the probability of Vladia ever appearing again, is roughly zero.)
- "The last person" to have those powers was, according to "Box", that he or she was strongarmed into government work. Agent Cranium can observe places without being in them, and works for the government. It fits.
- They have the same magic affinity, one that is explicitly genetically predisposed, and Agent Cranium bears a certain resemblance to Sarah's older sister Carol.
- The ability is in Sarah's bloodline, and Carol has been seen freezing in place, oblivious to the outside world, when she arrived at the griffin fight scene too late to see Cheerleadra. She's always at news sites very, very quickly, further suggesting she has supernatural sources of knowledge. (And really, her own sister also having magic would be quite a poke at Sarah's ego.)
- Kaoli was created with the Dewitchery Diamond, and Abraham goes after the creations of the Dewitchery Diamond.
- We know that Mrs. Dunkel had to drop out of something when she got pregnant with Elliot. The obvious answer is college but what if instead it was CIA training? The Dunkels met and fell in love while they were in training but an unplanned pregnancy caused Mrs. Dunkel to resign while Mr. Dunkel remained with the CIA as a mission planner and analyst. Although Mrs. Dunkel doesn't work for the CIA she still has most of the training. This explains their unflappability, organizational skills and planning of mundane activities, they are trained to plan espionage missions that may need to adapt to unexpected circumstances on the fly and they apply those skills to mundane activities.
- Think about it — he opens meatspace communication by coming up to her out of nowhere in the cafeteria, just like Garak initially approached Bashir in the Replimat. They have a brief conversation (in which he outright says that Garak is his favorite character) and then he withdraws enigmatically-- again mirroring Garak and Bashir's first interaction.
- His ex says that he treats everything like a chess game and manipulates people to get what he wants. What Garak does to survive, he does for fun.
- He even mimics Garak's feminine posture and expansive arm gestures. (Which is not entirely an act--he does it when he's alone.)
- He's pretty invested in this flirtation in particular, saying that Susan was "meant to be his."
- Then he tries hitting her with the hint of vulnerability— trying to advance from "Past Prologue" to "The Wire"?
- He prides himself on his skill at lying, and he gives a speech during his Villainous Breakdown about how everybody lies to get what they want.
- Fae grow more powerful, more intelligent, and more sociopathic over time. Voltaire threw around a lot of power in his scheme with Dex, the sheer complexity of his machinations and the degree to which he's managed to manipulate events suggests that he's on the high end of the intelligence spectrum, and he surpasses even Pandora at her worst for sociopathy. On top of that, his frustration with the limits of immortal law suggests he's spent a lot of time chafing at those limits. While he probably wasn't as strong as Pandora at her peak, with her having refreshed he may now well be the most powerful of the Fae.
- His plan to kill Raven had way too many moving parts, resulting in a totally different outcome that he had predicted, which is common for long-lived fairies, as they grow more bored with time. That's why Raven suspected Pandora to be responsible behind Dex's attack (that, and the trinket that Voltaire used to control Dex), since she was the only fairy past her expiration date he knew. Pandora, as old as she is, had no idea that magic would change if given enough exposure, and it was her previous self that witnessed the change in magic. However, Voltaire was aware of this, and while one might argue that he just went to ask Heka about it, since he wouldn't have been aware that magic could change, how could he have known what to ask for? And while the next argument might be seen as a stretch (because it is), he talked about fairies' former position as demigods as if he was there to experience it. Even without that last argument, this would mean Voltaire's the oldest fairy we know of, even older than Pandora herself.
- When Pandora is looking for people who could get flashy transformation spells, she asks Liz what she would become if she could transform into anything for a day. Liz replies that she's not really big on pretending to be something she's not, or on only getting a one-day sample of something cool and then loosing it. At this point, Pandora notes that she can give Liz something that, while not a transformation spell, is still highly useful to her plans. Given what Liz was just talking about, a logical power for her to be eligible for at that moment would be the ability to make an enchanted form someone's new default form and/or to alter enchantments so that they no longer wear off. And such a power would be incredibly useful for Pandora's ultimate plan, because it would make it much harder to hide or cover up the effects of the now-permanent transformations.
- Moreover, it seems highly improbable that Liz wouldn't have told Ashley if she'd discovered that she had magical powers, and if Ashley knows that Liz knows about magic she would have probably told her about her own magic. But this specific spell, which can only be used if Liz runs into someone under a transformation enchantment, is one that Liz could have plausibly gone for several months without accidentally using.
- It's been mentioned that Rhoda is a very powerful mage, and as such can get a fairly broad spectrum of spells. Moreover, even with her relationship with Catalina helping build up her confidence, her shyness is still one of her fundamental character traits, so a Perception Filter would reflect who she is.
- Specifically, hedgehog/cat. They're nonsapient due to being made entirely with non-sapient DNA sources, and remain in their default "hybrid" form at all times. They probably could change if they wanted to, but the change is painful for roisal seyunolus and they have no compelling reason to.
- We've already seen that Hanma has a definite crush on Sensei Gregg, and a magical fairy girlfriend plot would be textbook anime material, and thus highly in character for the both of them. And it would be an interesting way to tie Hanma into the main plot.
- Or bi; in any case, he's so checking out that half-naked dude walking by at the gym. Can't blame him, either.
- Also, the blonde woman in the same panel is reporter Carol Brown, so Leifeld really needs to get a new place to talk about top secret stuff.
- We know from Pandora that Mrs. Kitsune has theoretically the same magic potential her sister, the former Mrs. Verres, has, and Nanase definitely inherited it from her. With all what's going on around them and Akiko being close to her sister, it's only a matter of time until she gets exposed to magic herself which will trigger her own potential.
- That would explain why his magic works the same in this universe, because it's technically the same magic on both sides. Similarly, his use of Words Can Break My Bones casting bears a close resemblance to Andrea's use of musical notes to shape her spells. And it makes some sense that a magical misfire would be more likely to send someone to the other side of their current universe rather than to a completely different one, especially since we know that there are natural portals between the two.
- He mentioned that everyone on his mother's side of the family had a physique like his.
- Trade Empathy and Need for food and humanity, for immortality.
- The PTTAOLUTASF is filled with "useless" and inert magical objects. Magic told the Seers that certain Old Magic objects still existed and were rendered inert when magic changed, but would now reactivate. Some such items are probably in the PTTAOLUTASF, and the government is going to have to check over and reorganize them based on their new status.
- The universe where Magus comes from is already sort of this; Magus himself was born Ellen but assumed a male identity and Shapeshifter Default Form, while Terra is confirmed to be that universe's version of Tedd.
- Robin Zimm: That makes sense, and I see a possible reason, too: the logical way for the nose-beepery to work would be for Ellen to identify with the new memories rather than the old, thereby effectively becoming a copy of the other person — and she doesn't and isn't. It's like a failed transplant, only the incompatibility is effectively Incompatible Orientation.
- For starters, we do know that he is quite familiar with this site. He wanted to stand out here as much as possible, and knew that he couldn't possibly compete with Rich Burlew for most Trope Overdosed webcomic. However, he realized that he already had several page images, and has designed several recent strips with the primary intention of being used as a page image here. Just look at the page image for Jossed. How could that not be intentional? However, he does occasionally mess up and forget that the "somewhere an x is crying" tropes don't include a physicist, for example.
- ....which hasn't stopped said physicist from becoming the page image and a Trope Namer for The Professor Is Crying Again.
- I do NOT! Oops... (Just kidding, I'm not Dan.)
- ...or am I?
- No. No, I'm not.
- ...or am I?
- wait. How do we know that THIS theory isn't posted by Dan to throw us off other theories in this page? I'm on to you Dan!
- Well, here's a test to see if he's really been here: What would Elliot's FV 1 form look like? Hmm, Dan?
- Panel 4?
- Darn. I thought I was on to something. I guess I forgot about that.
- How about Elliot's FV 2 form?
- Well, here's a test to see if he's really been here: What would Elliot's FV 1 form look like? Hmm, Dan?
- Actually, it's a reference to Star Trek IV: The Voyage Home. The plot of the movie involved them going back in time to get some humpback whales to return to the future and Susan's outfit is a match for the one Spock wore in the past (using a bandana to hide his ears).
- Yes, that's the main reference, as stated in the comments. But the attempt to buy them at a shop and being told they're "fresh out", which isn't from the film, could be an additional Monty Python ref. In the previous panel the main reference is to Doctor Who, but the Dalek dressed as Sherlock Holmes is also a reference to Sherlock Holmes.
- has linked to TV Tropes on multiple occasions. WMG is for guesses, not for stupid, It's blatantly obvious he's been here.
- Having been here =/= being a troper.
- Tedd could be a gender-flipped, older but equally cute (though less innocent) Chiyo.
- The loss of innocence is a result of him/her finally understanding the drunken lecture, which Tedd also experienced though under different circumstances. This means that when Chiyo in the Azuverse finally understands what Nyamo was saying she'll start thinking like a Tedd.
- Huh. And when Chiyo loses her innocence, so does Chiyo-Dad, who takes on a slightly more human form. Also, if we consider Justin and Kaorin to be one and the same as well as Raven-Kimura, then that leaves only Elliot and Sarah...Yukari and Nyamo?
- As a small child, Chiyo's dad was a squishy, loveable, cryptic, flying cat-thing. Now that Tedd's grown up more, he's Dumbledore. It makes sense. Maybe Yukari and Nyamo are Agent Cranium and Agent Wolf? Or they could be a bygone pair of schoolteachers that helped along Tedd's thing for lesbians. Or Elliot and Sarah, or Lisa and Amanda.
- This NEEDS to be a crossover fic. Exchange program? I'll even contribute a Running Gag: Yukari-sensei turns out to be an excellent driver when transplanted to a place where they drive on the right.
- But ... but Jeremy LIKES Susan!
- Um... 1. The Foundation is not a branch of the government. 2. Letting civilians, even ones connected to an agent, mess with even Safe items is almost certainly at least a Keter-duty (more likely a D-classification) offense. 2a. Said civilians would likely get dosed with amnesiac after being captured, and the leak would get investigated. 2b. As something created by an SCP item and able to spread SCP effects, the Foundation would have locked up Ellen as a Euclid. In short, if the facility is associated with the Foundation, whoever's in charge of that area is really incompetent.
- The Storage Facility is the REAL SCP Foundation. The Website has been corrupted by SCP-732
- We have Elliot, Ellen, Nanase and Susan with their own spellbook. Sarah wants to learn magic. Yeah, Grace's say that Tedd will do some magic-like stuff, but I doubt that Sarah will be satisfy with only that. And I doubt that Tedd will be satisfy only with that. I think he will discover a way to make her awaken. Tedd... there is a theory already. Justin will ask the two immortals watching for Elliot (who, probably, are the ones that awaken Nanase and give Susan her "Tattoo") to awaken his power he had already been building through her martial arts. And Grace, we know a lot about her "ability". But I think we still don't know nothing. When she starts to train in martial arts, she will start to awaken, and so, obtain her own spellbook.
- By now, Uryuoms and higher Seyunolus can use earth magic again, so Grace getting a spellbook is indeed in the cards.
- Susan: something related with hammers...an armor, maybe?
- Susan apparently has magical power stored in her hair which she can use to give herself a physical and magical boost. It's possible that this is a one-time thing related to her awakening but given EGS-magic it seems likely she can recharge it over time.
- Ellen: an evolved version of her original FV5-form that make her hot and more stronger...or maybe it is already, but we don't know.
- She can borrow another Super Mode
- Justin: ..ehm... Super Saiyan?
- We haven't really seen what Tedd's gauntlet is capable of in Battle Mode, but it probably fits this trope.
- The Wizard Sarah
As for the Uryuoms, let's see: They've been space-faring for at least two centuries and have religions with specific rules regarding the use of computers, but don't seem to think of themselves as particularly more advanced than us (furthermore, Ellen's universe didn't seem any more advanced than ours, as one would think it would be if Uryuoms had introduced rayguns when they decided to fight in the American Revolution) and needed a human child to help them program their TFG.
in short, they could have come to Earth, gave us magic on account of it being cheaper than any form of technology where you actually had to mine ores out of the ground to produce, and then experienced a galactic apocalypse/war with elves/rise in religious fundamentalism, and are now scavengers of their old tech. Either their spaceflight was magical in nature or they've managed to preserve their space ships rather well.
- Strangely inverted. Dan has revealed that Uryuom "technology" is actually powered by magic. So is their, and by extension Grace's, shapeshifting abilities. It looks like all super abilities in the EGS universe are actually magic.
- Way to roll a critical failure on your "Understanding what the hell I'm talking about" check; I compared magical energy to electricity in the first freaking sentence, and what’s more wrote this long after Verres' exposition on the subject.
- I think I've failed my "Understanding what the hell you're talking about" check as well. I honestly can't get "magic is caused by hidden machines that no-one knows about" to jibe with anything we've been shown or told in the strip with regards to wizards, dreamers, spellbooks, spellmarks, immortals, magic potential and resistance, or anything except the TF gun and Tedd's extrapolations thereof (in which case the machines aren't hidden).
And yes, electricity is a type of energy. So is the chemical potential energy in our bodies, and we don't need machines to utilise that. (Mr. Verres also compares "awakening" to building muscles.)
- Or she just goes around finding random people that can spread chaos.
- If it's Ellen, then for extra extra Mind Screw, she will awaken in the universe of her dream life - the one where Uryuoms and chimeras have been with us since at least the Revolutionary War and she was friends with Kaoli and Tall Tedd and Archie.
- Most of the major cast are either Dreaming or Awakened, much like practitioners of Anime-Style Martial Arts; spiritual energy - and spells, in some cases - are making the Supernatural Martial Arts possible.
- Ryoga is a Wizard, able to learn others' spells as well as develop his own. His sword-belt, shuriken bandannas, and umbrella attacks are his own spells. He also learns Shi Hokodan (someone else's spell) from a scroll, and learns the Bakusai Tenketsu from Cologne (which is presumably one of Cologne's spells).
- Ranma is Awakened, and possibly a Wizard. He learns the Hiryu Shoten Ha, and goes some way towards learning the Shi Shi Hokodan, but can't make it work at the same level as Ryoga. He also creates the Moko Takabisha, and presumably several more abilities.
- Happosai and Cologne are Awakened. Happo Fire Burst, Cologne's Splitting Cat Hairs, and all their other best moves are actually spells.
- Mousse's Hidden Weapons are a spell, and he either Awakened through training or is Dreaming.
- Kuno's implausible sword 'skills' are likely a Dreaming spell.
- Kodachi Kuno's ribbon attacks, and possibly some of her other moves, are either a Dreaming spell or Awakened spells.
- Ukyo's Okonomiyaki stuff is either a Dreaming spell or Awakened spells.
- Gosunkugi has probably seen actual magic, but only believes he can access it.
- Hammers can be used in the Ranmaverse because it's happening before Jerry's death, so his artefact is powering them.
- Ranma 1/2 manga (plural?) have been seen in this universe.
- That does not, however, actually disprove this WMG. With the Masquerade in effect, Ranma 1/2 could be a factual account of actual events, disguised as fiction.
- Pregnancy doesn't happen that promptly. It takes several hours (sometimes up to a couple days) for the sperm to reach the ovum, and several days more for the fertilized ovum to nidate in the womb. Tedd will definitely not be pregnant "the next morning", and with him switching sexes every other day, this scenario is extremely unlikely, even if female Tedd winds up having sex with male Grace.
- Though the safeguards to prevent transforming while pregnant would presumably take effect as soon as the ovum was fertilized, so Tedd would only need to remain female long enough for that to happen.
- Why would they? Pregnancy begins with the nidation. Only then the zygote becomes an embryo, and only then it releases the triggers that inform the body to prepare for the upcoming changes. A free-floating fertilized ovum can just be rinsed out with the next menstruation anytime, or nidate in the Fallopian tube which cannot possibly lead to a successful pregnancy; magic safeguards won't risk Tedd's life just so an ovum — not a pregnancy — can keep existing.
- Because if the safeguards allowed Tedd to change back with a fertilized ovum inside, it might try to implant into the abdominal wall or something else of the sort, which could result in potentially lethal complications.
- Though the safeguards to prevent transforming while pregnant would presumably take effect as soon as the ovum was fertilized, so Tedd would only need to remain female long enough for that to happen.
- There’s a lot of evidence that Moperville is based on Naperville, Illinois.
- We know that spellcasters instinctively use ambient energy to augment their own reserves, and while the ambient energy levels are lower outside of Moperville, they certainly haven't been non-existent. But with magic having dropped the masquerade there are going to be far more spellcasters than ever before, not to mention all the artifacts from old systems of magic that are also now going to be usable. With all these extra sources, they will suddenly be drawing ambient energy out of the system far faster than it can leak in, draining the ambient magic to nearly nothing and weakening casters everywhere.
- While magic obviously doesn't follow the exact same rules on both sides of the universe, it's still the same magic on both sides, and it seem plausible that something as profound as magic dropping the masquerade on one side of the universe might have had effects on the other side.
- Imagine Andrea and Tara returning for their planned rendezvous, and mentioning that a couple of weeks ago magic went completely haywire on their side, and the humans working the math out and realizing what happened. Awkward...
- Tying in with the above WMG: we know magic naturally circulates between the two sides. If the ambient magic levels on this side start dropping, then less magic will be returning to the other side and their energy levels will start dropping as well.
- Before Tedd and Kevin can do anything else with regard to training Ashley, they're going to need to build up her magic to the point where she Awakens. Since they no longer have immortal allies to give her a magic mark, the most reliable way to do that is to give her a wand that she can use. And Tedd happens to have this wand for which he has no particular need (since he has other ways to cast those spells) and which contains enough magical charge to let anyone cast the spells it holds without needing ambient energy. On top of that, Tedd knows that Ashley has a gender-change fetish, so giving her the TG wand would let her do something with magic that she would really like and that could not possibly be done any other way, which will get her excited about magic.
- The second half of Voltaire's scheme seems likely to go through, but there will still be knives in the toy chest. And Voltaire will soon realize, if he hasn't already, that with magic becoming public knowledge humanity will soon be far more able to defend themselves than ever before. If Voltaire wishes to make humanity his playthings, he will have to strike hard and fast to break human civilization into pieces before magical knowledge becomes widespread enough to make us truly dangerous to Voltaire. Moreover, it is to Voltaire's advantage for the humans to hate and fear the fae, because it will force them to unite behind his leadership and prevent any of them from siding with humanity. And it would be terrifyingly easy: all Voltaire really needs to do is pop into the physical above a crowded city or two and blast it into smoldering rubble (which judging by the amount of power he's been throwing around he could easily do) while making sure to keep a few humans alive so they can tell their fellows exactly who was behind the atrocities. Repeat a couple times in different shapes to make sure the blame falls on all fae, and pretsto, instant war.
- Ashley will overhear something that causes her to realize that Elliot and Susan are attracted to each other, and will try and break things off with Elliot to let him and Susan get together. Susan will do the same, trying to get out of the way of an Ashley/Elliot ship because she can tell that they are attracted to each other and she knows she is in no fit shape emotionally to start a relationship. Elliot, of course, will have no clue what the za is going on.
- Dan has mentioned that there will be sitcom-style nonsense in the party arc.
- What the wand actually does is affect the interface between Dan's universe and other universes, forcing him to shift his view between realities. Basically, whenever Tedd/Tess waves the wand, it forces Dan's perspective to shift to another timeline, where the (possibly wildly different) history had lead to the existence of another Tedd/Tess who purchased the wand and happened to wave it at the exact same moment.
2) Uryuoms have been on Earth for thousands of years;
3) Earth Uryuoms aren't all descended from those original arrivals because the parents of William come from their parent planet, where they made the TF gun;
4) An Uryuom spaceship (allegedly with an entire colony on board) is said to have crash-landed on the "other face of the coin" world thousands of years ago;
5) William's parents made the TF gun "before cetrain laws were passed" on the parent planet;
6) In the encounter with Lord Liam, he confirms that Uryuoms on the "other face of the coin" world are banned from using technology, but he does not state how long that ban has been in effect. If those laws are decades old, instead of centuries, then that is recent enough to allow for William's parents to make the TF gun, see anti-Uryuom sentiments become worse on their home-planet and decide to cross over to "our" Earth where William was born.
- They have default forms and Sirleck had a "spirit" form. To Aberrations, layer Shifting to see them is about as dangerous as the magic weapons? Or Layer Shifting is one way to become an aberration? Latter is unlikely to happen to Tedd, though, unless suddenly Aberration-ism is sorta reversible.
Elliot
- 4 females
- 2 extremely androgynous males
- a female clone of himself/his sister
- a gay guy who doesn't act very masculine normally
- not that there’s anything wrong with any of that of course but it fuels wmg.
- Jossed: Elliot was pretty nonchalant as a woman, whereas Tedd panicked when male Grace kissed him.
- The only idea that springs to mind where this could come into play is possibly if Elliot is caught by a future Big Bad and is forced to wear unbreakable bonds and chains. But numerous times it's explained he has the ability to focus and change aspects of himself along with his typical transform. Even if Uryuom suit tech is used to make them, there has to be an absolute smallest size the clothes can shrink to, which I assume he can go below since the absolute limit of his powers or control over them haven't been shown yet.
- Jossed: The clothes didn't change because Elliot did not focus on them.
- Jossed, because aside of Nioi's explanation of DD Epic Fail, Ellen was repeatedly identified as a magical creature. That, and Abraham, the creator of the diamond, knows the difference.
- I thought that that was explicitly stated by Mr. Verres; Elliot's first few spells will involve turning into girls, yes, but he has been awakened to be a shapeshifter in general.
- You're conflating the Dewitchery Diamond and Awakening. The Dewitchery Diamond separates the curse from the cursed, gives the curse a new permanent body and a way to spread itself, and allows the cursed to become a facsimile of the curse at will. Other forms can be added to either the curse or the cursed if added in a few hours of touching the Diamond. This is why Ellen can V5 people with her beam and didn't disappear after a month, and why Elliot can still turn into a girl and gained the ability to turn into a cat when he used the belt. However, Elliot had built up very high levels of magic energy from Anime-Martial Arts, which meant that when he touched the Diamond, both he and Ellen were Awakened. Normally, Awakening gives you spells related to your personality and what you do. However, Elliot and Ellen were awakened improperly, so they will gain abilities related to the curse first, then normal ones later. They are also suffering from energy build-up which forces them to use their spells if they don't cast them often. Elliot may gain cat-related spells, but that will only come after the girl ones are done.
- Jossed; it was regular Elliot’s attraction amplified.
- Jossed, Elliot got together with Ashley instead, and Susan decided to sort out her feelings. Also, Sarah made it clear she wants Elliot and her to move on.
- Jossed, he’s dating Ashley instead.
- Summoning Earl Grey Tea
- Shape shifting into Trek characters of either gender
- Universal Translation
- Transporting
- All Jossed, his first non-transgender spell is something to do with visual enhancement.
Tedd
- The Gun is too small. Despite Time Lord Technology, the external shell of the TARDIS must still be large enough to have an opening for access.
- Perhaps it contains a collapsible Tardis?
- Jossed by the nonexistence of time travel in the EGS multiverse.
- Jossed, Tedd’s glowing is because he’s a Seer
- Jossed; Tedd's rarity is that he's a seer, a type of wizard that can see and understand magic, has extreme resistance to enchantments, and possesses the ability to create wands.
- Jossed; Tedd's magic was not detected by the wand because his resistance as a seer (a specialized type of wizard) was just that badass.
- Jossed; Tedd is a seer, which means that he can see magic, resist enchantments, and make wands. He's the exact opposite of impaired.
- Several other things point to this theory: Tedd was diagnosed as having no magic, yet he was able to use the watches that are powered by their users' energy (something he shrugs off but doesn't really explain). Tedd is able to resist spells and can dispel enchantments on himself. All this would be explained if he doesn't actually have any less magical talent than an ordinary person, but does have some sort of power that either dispels or masks magic. (This would be a whole different WMG, but what class of beings do we know whose magic power cannot be sensed?)
- Fun fact: someone with aura-reading abilities tried to read George's while Tedd was standing next to him. The result was an aura strong enough to make the aura-reader react like someone had just shown a bright light into his face (we had seen him look at other auras before. They looked pretty soft, and he still seemed to think they indicated a fair bit of power)... and the way the images are laid out makes it look like Tedd is the centre of the aura, not George.
- Sort of, but not really. Turns out that Tedd's a seer; he can see magic, resist magic (including magic detection wands), and make wands.
- Jossed: Seers don’t cancel magic, quite the opposite their purpose is to reintroduce magic to the world should it undergo a major change.
- Jossed: Pandora would most definitely have sensed if Tedd was her grandson after learning that elves could have children just like she sensed Diane. It would certainly have made the Great Fairy Godmother storyline different. Also note that Noriko explicitly speaks of her and Edward's bloodline in regards to Tedd; she would certainly know if there was a possibility of Tedd having another father.
- The Uryuoms could sense that Grace was shapeshifted, but didn't say anything about Tedd also being shapeshifted.
- But they KNOW Tedd. So, they wouldn't see any need to comment about the fact that he's a chimera, because he always has been. (Also, they probably wouldn't ever bother mentioning it to him.)
- Transformations applied to Grace using the TF gun don't "time out", and the "normal" setting on the gun doesn't do anything to her.
- He's a Lesser Chimera—
- The Uryuoms sensed Grace because she is a Greater Chimera, and hence more powerful/easier to detect. Also notable is that Grace was disguised as Claire, which is not her normal human form.
- We've never seen the TF gun used on a known Lesser Chimera (such as Guineas or Hedge). The "normal" setting may not do anything to them, or it may return them to their hybrid form (which is "normal" for Tedd) As for letting the time run out on a transformation, we don't actually know that Tedd has ever stayed transformed long enough to run out the clock.
- He has never shapeshifted himself naturally—
- The Uryuoms sensed Grace because she had changed into Claire just before the Uryuoms met her. They might not have been able to notice in a few hours/days/etc. Except when using the TF gun, Tedd has been in his default form for his entire life.
- As for the gun, Tedd has been in his hybrid form long enough for a minor Shapeshifter Mode Lock to set in, as far as the gun's "normal" setting is concerned. And again, we don't know if he would change back on his own if he has ever tried letting the time run out on a transformation.
- Take a look at this...
If it's a case of never having shapeshifted on his own, it is possible that Tedd may actually be a Greater Chimera, and can shapeshift into anything he's turned himself into using the TF gun (but without Grace's Lespuko heritage that allows her to combine forms).
- Greater chimeras (like Grace) can't use the magic watches; Tedd can.
- Jossed: Tedd is a Seer, seers are human, therefore Tedd must be human.
- Except that Mr. Verres refers to Mrs. Kitsune as his sister-in-law.
- It's more likely Jerry caught himself before mentioning Tedd's mother; she seems to be a major secret.
- Jerry could have been referring to his godfather
- Jossed: Tedd's mother is Noriko.
Sarah
- Jossed. The dojo is closing down and Greg seems reluctant to teach new people for fear of creating supervillains.
- Well, fudge. I thought I was on to something.
- Greg may still be willing to give Sarah private lessons. The others would most certainly vouch for her and Greg probably knows her well enough to believe there's little to no risk of her turning into a supervillain.
- Well, fudge. I thought I was on to something.
In theory, it will either let Sarah copy a spell while still letting it's original caster use the spell, or Sarah will outright steal the spell, making it so the original caster can no longer use that spell, either temporarily or permanently.
This stems from the fact magic marks usually are derived from a person's wants and desires, in this case Sarah is jealous of her friends having magic and wants magic of her own. Therefore, her spell will be copying the magic of her friends, or outright stealing the spells as a reflection of how badly she wants her friends' magic.
- Jossed. An EGS:NP arc shows Sarah finding out what that spell is. It's not stealing spells.
Justin
- Jossed: The card game is over, and nothing come to life.
- If we look at Susan, it's made clear that an awakening can be induced by angst, so why not have an awakening induced by catharsis. We've seen since the beginning that Justin has had access to magic from his training with Anime Martial Arts. However, it's only recently that it's starting to really show itself due to the stress, also recently the issue of Melissa has been brought to light more readily. It is probably that the reason Justin hasn't awakened fully is because his magic is being blocked by his hatred towards Melissa. In fact, all the anime martial artists would have probably gotten a proper awakening the moment they got over the personal problems that were holding them back; the only reason it didn't happen that way for Nanase and Elliot is because outside sources intervened before either of them resolved those problems on their own.
- It seems that Justin may be awakened through outside intervention himself, specifically courtesy of Pandora. Still not enough information to tell if this is Jossed yet.
- Unlikely that he's awakened. The mark is an indication that he's Dreaming. Susan had a mark since her trip to France, but only just Awakened in "Hammerchlorians."
- Officially Jossed as Pandora has now said outright that she has Awakened Justin, and his Mark has now disappeared, confirming it.
- Doubtful. Justin actually contemplated something similar to this during the year-long TG party, but came to the conclusion that the female self wouldn't be him.
- Justin also doesn't seem like someone who would do something so underhanded and treacherous.
- And now a Sarah disguise is entirely unfeasible.
- All but Jossed. Elliot says that, while he admits to finding Justin objectively attractive, he's not interested in dating him, and Justin seems to be over Elliot by now.
Nanase
- They kinda addressed this already
- Not necessarily. Just because Ellen wants to be with Nanase and is willing to try does not mean that she's actually capable of dealing with the reality of their relationship. If they're going to work out, Ellen and Nanase are both going to have to try a lot harder.
- Looks kind of unlikely now, given Nanase's latest spell and her use of it. A break-up does not look imminent, given Nanase survives, of course.
- She does. She also says she's tired of hiding, tells Ellen she loves her very much, and begs the Agency to let her tell all to her folks. I think a break-up is pretty well Jossed at this point, but who knows?
Susan
Look at her in panel five of this comic. I know that's not her natural hair color, but her general looks, weirdness, and Ace Attorney-style finger point is so much like Raven's here that I couldn't resist pointing it out. Whether it's true or not, an Ace Attorney game with these two against each other would be hilarious.- Also, as Pandora is blonde (which is a recessive trait and thus homozygous) Raven is heterozygous for blondness.
- For aid of reading... Pandora's hair color means Raven could have blonde kids.
- Is it actually blonde? It's certainly darker than Noah's and about as dark as Melissa's. Melissa's hair used to be shown as blonde, but with Art Evolution it is now shown as quite a bit darker. Perhaps it's dirty blonde, light brown, or even red? Catalina's hair is about the same shade, after all... Just saying, it's not exactly certain that Pandora is blonde. Unless it's one of the backgrounds...?
- Raven doesn't show romantic interest in any mortal (inside continuity), and is portrayed as a paragon of integrity. Also, his name is not Pompoms, and he looks nothing like this guy.
- Grace makes this WMG in-universe here, when Raven disguises Grace as his niece, and she ends up looking like Susan. It is Jossed both by Raven and by Dan in the commentary, but Dan hints that a deeper twist might yet come from this.
- And winds up semi-Confirmed. He's Susan's many-times-great-grandfather.
- Just compare them
- Except there is pretty much zero chance a step parent would be given primary custody under U.S. Law, unless there were some very unusual extenuating circumstances.
- she seems to have a good life, it could go on her advantage in the judge if the real mother, and the father, doesn't seem to have enough money to maintain both children. Susan could testify in her step-mother's advantage to stay with her. That, or it was the blood-parents idea...
- Susan's reaction to her father cheating could help the step mother gain custody or the parents could have chosen to respect Susan’s wishes.
- Note the title of that comic: "The other women (typo?) with Susan's face". This is definitely foreshadowing.
- Except there is pretty much zero chance a step parent would be given primary custody under U.S. Law, unless there were some very unusual extenuating circumstances.
- I think the simpler explanation would be that Susan and Diane are half-sisters. Susan is the daughter of her father and the mother we've seen. Diane is the daughter of the same father, and some blonde he was cheating with (not necessarily the same woman we saw. Maybe he's just got a thing for blondes).
- Identical twin half-sisters are impossible since identical twins are produced from the same zygote (fertilized egg) that splits and forms two embryos. Of course, with magic, embryo transplants could be possible, but still, that's a pretty big stretch.
- Jossed. Diane's biological father is Adrian Raven.
- Pretty much busted early on by the obvious internal conflict between Susan's Straw Feminist views and her attraction to boys.
- Completely Jossed by Susan herself.
- Partly unjossed again by Susan herself. She can find people (and scenarios) sexy, but not the idea of her doing anything with them.
- Given an official Shrug of God here. Is Susan asexual? She doesn't know, and nor does Dan.
- Completely Jossed by Susan herself.
- Pretty much Jossed. Losing the hammers was because the immortal who powers them is recalling his power.
- Sarah was using the hammers before she knew Nanase. It would have been rude for Sarah to be using Nanase's magic without her permission, and it would have been extremely rude of Susan to share the knowledge of how to tap Nanase's magic.
- The Susan/Sarah conversations about the hammers mention just hammers, and that they're for use against offensive men. But Susan summoned a sword back during Sister, for use against the goo.
- During Susan's oh so long ago brief summary of the Trip To France, she says "we gained access to magic". Her wording would be awkward if it's a case of "I'm bumming magic off Nanase". It suggests that they both got their own magic.
- We haven't seen Nanase summon the hammers (except during the Trip To France exposition in "Hammerchlorians 2")
- Thoroughly Jossed by the Hammerchlorians arc.
- Unlikely, Jerry recognised the style as angst-induced. Unusual, but from how he treated things, all that was needed was some tranquility to avoid any undesirable lashing out.
- Jossed via Word of God
- Aw man, you beat me to it. Still, what else could turn Mrs. Kitsune against her sister?
- Tedd's mom was a wife who chose her career over the family. Mrs. Kitsune seems to be a hardcore traditionalist, and might have taken the action pretty hard.
- If that's true, the women we saw with Susan's dad would have to be Japanese and possibly have purple hair.
- Jossed. Tedd's mother is explicitly described as looking a lot like him / Nanase, and she most likely has red hair.
Ellen
- Jossed years ago. During Grace's party, Tedd explains that it's impossible fpr a male turned into female to get pregnant in the very first night he turned into a she. several days have to pass to get pregnant... which for some reason, kinda make sense... anyway, the point is that Ellen can get pregnant.
- She has periods after all.
- This suggests an ovarian rhythm that starts at the moment of transformation.
- Jossed years ago. During Grace's party, Tedd explains that it's impossible fpr a male turned into female to get pregnant in the very first night he turned into a she. several days have to pass to get pregnant... which for some reason, kinda make sense... anyway, the point is that Ellen can get pregnant.
- Pretty sure it doesn't work that way. Alternate!Ellen seems to be her own person, and was almost certainly not guided by Main!Ellen in any way. She might have gotten a bit of a weird feeling from suddenly losing her other soul, but that's probably it.
- Perhaps it's the other way 'round. Which one came first?
- Ellen appearing in EGS pre-dates the start of Misfile by years. Ellen starts wearing that particular shirt about a year before Misfile started. Yes, this troper has way too much time on his hands.
- Ah, but isn't Ash an Expy of a Building 12 character?
Magus
- This would mean that Dan Shive himself is inhabiting one of the universes in his comic—it's certainly not our world he lives in.
- therefore, it is to some degree a webcomic about himself.
- I always though the party leader was Noah. Not much to go besides the hair, but if it made sense it wouldn't be wild mass guessing would it?
- Confirmed in apr27, 2011 strip.
- Original idea Jossed, it was Noah.
- I'm not sure that is possible. Magus comes from an alternate dimension and was blasted into the spirit realm of the main universe due to sabotage. Additionally, he would probably have been more protective of Raven at the end of Sister II if he was Raven's father.
- Jossed: Raven has been around for centuries, Magus has only been trapped for 2 years (we know because of the flashback to when it happened, there was an explicit "2 years ago", both for Magus's home dimension and the one the main characters are in).
- Not necessarily. Raven thought that the plan was too simple for it to be Pandora's doing, only because he didn't know about Justin's magic mark, and as of Death Sentence probably Rhoda's and other random people. As it stands, the affair with Dex could've been a bait to distract Raven from the real, important pieces of the game.
- Immortals have a lot of powers on the spirit plane. Magus doesn't. He explicitly says that the only things he's currently able to do on the material world is affecting emotions (not sure where, but I know it's there somewhere near his first appearance). And a lot of the things they can do or can't aren't really physical limitations so much as social ones- if an immortal does a wrong step and the others find out, whoopass ensues.
- So far as we know, only Immortals can give powers to people. This would mean that Magus is working with an immortal, or immortal-like character (Sirleck probably doesn't count) to give people spells for his plans.
- Jossed. It was Chaos who started it all. Apparently, her plan is to give everyone magic, so Raven can fight.
- This troper actually thought that Magus' hair looked similar to Elliot’s long hair when he was younger.
- Another (very very) roundabout bit of backing: Terra's name is similar to Tara, a gay Magic Knight (who happens to be a griffin). IF said Griffin has a main universe alternate, it's most likely Nanase.
- Jossed: He has acknowledged being Elliot's / Ellen's alternate, as well as Terra being Tedd's alt. The only remaining question is if she's aware of Lord Tedd/survived his assassination attempts.
- Jossed: He's Elliot's / Ellen's alternate.
- The only problem with that is that Elliot has transformed into Ellen-form already on at least one occasion. This Troper believes that the key will be the beam ensnaring Magus and pushing him into Elliot's body, requiring the Dewitchery Diamond to separate them again, conveniently providing Magus with his own body.
- Original WMG Jossed: The second troper was exactly right although ‘‘Ellen’’ was ‘‘temporarily’’ possessed… by ‘‘Sirleck’’.
Diane
- The only mention we have ever had of fast-aging was by Grace's grandfather, who said that it would never work and that actually, Grace and her brothers age more slowly than normal. I'm pretty sure Dan hasn't retconned this. Dianne could still be a duplicate via the Dewitchery Diamond or something similar, but a clone would require her to be made at about the same time as Susan, and would require different motivations.
- Jossed: Susan and Dianne were born 20 minutes from one another, and (before Susan's awakening) were identical. Additionally, Jerry's reincarnation explicitly referred to Diane as "Susan's long-lost sister."
- Occam's razor
- They look identical, Diane's tattoo and Susan's dyed/magically recolored hair notwithstanding, and Grace implies that it's much more than a Strong Family Resemblance.
- They were born on the same day (New Years... Is that significant?)
- Diane knows she's adopted. Susan either doesn't know or hasn't had cause to say. Given her private nature either is possible.
- Given the origin of the term "nobody," shouldn't this be "Susan is Diane's Nobody" with that reasoning?
- Jossed. Nanase and Justin apparently never noticed Susan and Diane's similarity to each other, and the full info on the trip to France cements it. Vampires don't steal hearts and Susan was saved by Nanase the first time and killed it the second time they fought. The two actually WERE strong enough to fight it, obviously. The reason Jerry was upset at this was that the French immortals picked two high-school freshmen instead of, say, France's version of Mr. Verres.
- Jossed by Reincarnated Jerry; they're sisters.
- And now UN-Jossed. (Is that a word?) Susan's father was not particularly discriminate in who he was with.
- Completely Jossed. They are distantly related. Diane is Adrian Raven's biological daughter, while Susan is his distant descendant. It appears all of Raven's descendants, including Susan's father greatly resemble him.
- And now UN-Jossed. (Is that a word?) Susan's father was not particularly discriminate in who he was with.
- Assuming Reincarnated Jerry is telling the truth.
- He believed he was telling the truth but that was based on conclusion jumping.
- But not FULL sisters per Mr. Verres's background checks.
- Jossed: not sisters, distantly related though.
Turns out that she had twins and was allowed to keep one, Diane. Things went hush hush and back to normal, but Mrs. Pompoms was irritated and grumpy on having to go through her rival to get a child and wasn't up for much of a sex life. So, to help his urges, Mr. Pompoms kept in touch with the blonde woman and had fun. Unfortunately for the adults, one day Susan walked in on them... It makes sense for this to be so. Both girls are blonde, Mrs. Pompoms isn't. Not to mention the woman's horror on seeing Susan. While being seen by a child having sex, it seemed much more scared than shocked or embarrassed. Plus, it would cause more angst for Susan which Dan likes doing. Now Diane did say "we're adopted." sometimes, when one is adopted and it's brought up all the time, saying "we're" to not alienate the adopted one while also just coming off better for relationships. That is one option. The other is that the blonde woman left, going far away, not wanting to be reminded of the situation. So, the two could have the same adopted MOTHER. Another, other option is that both of the parents ran off together, leaving Diane behind. Mrs. Pompoms not wanting her. Either way, it fits to have that woman be their biological mother.
- Keep in mind that blonde is a recessive gene; two brown-haired parents can have blond children.
- Susan and Diane both have occidental eyes, while Tedd's eyes seem to be more oriental. It's possible, but not entirely likely.
- Original poster of this one, revisiting this one for Diane (I think there's enough evidence at this point to soft-Joss this for Susan). Raven has mentioned that he did something to mess up Tedd's life in the past, and he had a falling out with Edward, and now we learn that Diane is his daughter. It only serves to make Diane's blonde hair even weirder, but I think the evidence is piling up.
- Completely jossed: Mr. Verres has confirmed Susan's birth records, Raven is Diane’s father, and therefore Noriko Verres definitely isn’t her mother.
- Diane was born 10 minutes before midnight, while Susan was born 10 minutes after, making Susan the younger. It's certainly possible.
- Jossed: They’re not sisters.
- Unlikely, given Reincarnated Jerry's identification of Diane as Susan's long-lost sister, but then again, Elliot and Ellen are being referred to as brother and sister, so anything is possible.
- It's been revealed that "New Jerry" has no special knowledge and simply made the same logical conclusion everyone else did.
- Jossed: Mr. Verres has confirmed Susan's birth records
- This raises the question of why Abraham didn't come for either of them. Abraham's reaction to hearing about Ellen suggests that Ellen is the first human Dewitchery Diamond duplicate.
- Jossed: Mr. Verres has confirmed Susan's birth records.
- Jossed: Diane is Raven’s daughter.
- Diane is adopted and has admitted it. Susan, though, seems not.
Here's the catch: it was obviously Diane who was the original, not Susan - Diane was the original baby, and Susan was created twenty minutes after her birth.
Two possible scenarios: One: someone (perhaps one whose newborn died) envied the Pompoms for being rich and lucky enough to have a healthy baby girl. This someone or someones were able to duplicate the child, but as a bit of envious meanness, took the original baby and left the copy for the Pompoms. This party eventually realized they couldn't explain having a baby appear "from nowhere" and to escape suspicion as a kidnapper, put the baby up for adoption. Two: Mrs. Pompoms was pregnant and lost her baby shortly before term; one of Mr. Pompom's lovers had a child around the same time, but he could not convince her to give it up to him. Solution? He payed for some kind of magical duplication and took the copied child home for his wife, convincing her that it was her stillborn child. Diane's mother eventually gave her up for adoption, feeling too much hostility toward Mr. Pompoms to raise her well.
Pandora
- If you mean the immortal who was "guiding" Tara the Griffin, that's pretty unlikely since it's been established that So a Date at the Mall and the EGS:NP storyline Question Mark happen on the same day. In the latter, Pandora outright states that she was watching Sarah, at least in the morning, but very likely for the whole day.
- Are you really saying Pandora is incapable of copying herself or being in two places at once? I mean think about every personality trait Chesire has shown. He's manipulative, he switches between childish playfulness and angered imperiousness at the drop of a hat, and is bending the "guide and empower" rules to breaking point. That has Pandora's footprints all over it.
- Jossed. Pandora just learned of that immortal. She is not happy.
- Jossed Pandora is working alone.
Adrian Raven
- I had pegged him for a transformed form of the hunting summon monster.
- Either Our Vampires Are Different, or he's wearing SPF Infinity Sunblock.
- And he's apparently been around for quite some time: Nanase mentioned he had already taught her mother.
- That's just plain odd considering Nanase's mother is a Japanese immigrant.
- Japanese, not necessarily an immigrant. She could be first-generation.
- Have you ever considered that Raven may be some kind of Watcher? A Giles to Nanase's Buffy?
- The problem with that, given that Nanase got her magic from the Immortals, would be that it would imply that Raven worked for the Immortals. Which is... unlikely, given the conflicting personalities involved.
- That's just plain odd considering Nanase's mother is a Japanese immigrant.
- Jossed...perhaps. Raven is a wizard, at least.
- Huh. Jossed: he's an elf.
- Extra specifically jossed here.
- Could this mean that there's a raging, thirsting, mindless super-vampire Raven running around? Makes this troper think of Dan Shive's original plan for Painted Black, before he made Hedge the Grace-hunter.
- Perhaps, perhaps not. He clearly knew about the diamond before meeting its creator, but he insists that it's common knowledge (and a cautionary tale).
- Unlikely, given the latest sketch. To quote: "Um, I'm... I'm not a vampire..."
- And very specifically jossed here
- Not too wild there, it looks to me like the Reaper's job is to clear up the mess when the Diamond is used. The whole Vow thing may just nudge him over into Well-Intentioned Extremist, but I'd place a fairly significant sum of money on a Heel–Face Turn, quite possibly after discovering that Ellen is the result of a lab accident rather than a true curse.
- Abraham (The Reaper) made a vow, is conflicted when he discovers Ellen has done no harm, but goes through with it anyway, until he is provided a better interpretation by Nanase. Raven loses a fight to protect Ellen by showing mercy to Abraham (and being to slow to counter his surprise attack).
- Since Abraham's moral was compromised due to the conflict and his response to it, Mr. Raven was protecting children, so this seems to be pretty much Jossed, despite Abraham's overall intentions.
Noah
- Melissa is traditionally the one blamed for outting Justin, as she's the only person he told that he was gay. But she and Noah have been shown to be close. If they were close even when the date with Justin failed, she would have told him. And Noah has stated before that he hates keeping secrets. He's also really awkward in social situations and blurts out random things without realizing how people will feel about them. He seems to me like the kind of person who would have told people about Justin's sexuality without realizing what the consequences would be to Justin and Melissa's friendship would be until it was too late.
- Nope. Melissa told her gossipy sister.
- Jossed: Noah is the "Child Left Behind." Dex was the unwitting summoner.
- Terra and Magus were Noah's parents, and once Magus disappeared, Terra went to Verres's organization to help find him. They fell in love and had Tedd, but ultimately Terra grew restless and ran off to be a model in Europe. Noah's apparent age discrepancy is due to being born of two people of strong magical talent, he ages slower. Tedd presumably has some magical power as well, but Mr. Verres helped focus it and his latent raw energy powers the TF Gun. Presumably, Lord Tedd is a formidable enemy because he has fully mastered his magical talents and merged them with his own inventions.
- Terra and Magus are from another universe, Noah's parents died, and the TF Gun runs off its own power since other people can use it (not to mention the uryuoms who created it and gave it to Tedd to tinker with). Tedd and Lord Tedd having latent magical power may be valid.
- Possible, but not likely. Tedd's eyes have an oriental look to them, while Noah is all-occidental.
- Jossed: Noah's parents are dead and were involved in creating Damien.
Noriko Kitsune Verres
- This is a bit of a stretch, but they both apparently learned it while in Paris, and it's mentioned that Tedd's mother is somewhere in Europe. If she's a witch of some sort if might also explain why Tedd glows when emotional.
- Sorry, but it was the two Immortals currently following Elliot around that gave them magic. Now, that doesn't mean the female one can't be his mom, but wrong hair color (last I checked).
- When did we see her hair colour?
- The female immortal's hair is shown as being pink, as for Tedd's mother I don't think we've ever actually seen her on panel or had her described. There's also Mr. Verres line about there being "a reason" he knows so much about immortals.
- Mr. Verres's hair is blue. What color do you get when you cross pink with blue?
- Dan has specifically stated that hair colour doesn't work that way.
- Interesting theory, but I think Nanase would have mentioned that her aunt was the one who taught her magic... then again, it's not like she's ever explained it in depth, so I guess it's possible.
- Who says Tedd's mother couldn't have been in disguise?
- Jossed, we now know the actual backstory.
- Terra and Magus belong to a different universe. Magus was brought from that universe into the spiritual plane of the main universe.
- Jossed: Tedd's mother and Raven have existed at the same time. And oh yeah, that "half-immortals can't have children" thing.
- That last sentence has recently been proven invalid, but of course the WMG is stilll Jossed.
- Jossed. Magus is a version of Elliot / Ellen from another universe, he's got no connections to Noah whatsoever.
Lord Tedd
- Jossed: This WMG is impossible for two reasons: first of all time travel doesn't exist in the EGS multiverse and second of all Nioi didn't create or modify the Second Life Universe; she merely pulled the memories from it. Even if all the above theories are true, Nioi's involvement never affected the past.
Other Characters
- What else could explain his sudden change of heart? Jerry said he was much more concerned with keeping secrets than helping people, so why would he suddenly explain everything now? It must be part of the Dark Alliance's plan.
- Jossed. Sirleck's host and Arthur are different characters, Dan said so himself.
- Let's see, there's the giving oddly-appropriate advice, there's the appearing randomly and startling someone, there's interest in Susan's well-being, and there's the Theme Naming with Tom and Jerry. Seems pretty suspicious to me.
- Jossed. He doesn't look anything like the reincarnated Jerry seen at the end of Family Tree.
- Seems unlikely. Cranium defers to her before Mr. Verres is fired, not afterward, and his superior wants to stop incidents like the near murder because of personal connections.
- If Mrs. Kitsune was in line for Mr. Verres' position she likely would have been his deputy and thus Cranium's superior even before he was fired.
- Jossed
- Jossed. Dex was manipulated into going to the dojo while under the influence of whoever was able to get through the disorientation his pendant caused. Dex has seen Greg before though at an anime convention when Greg was cosplaying as Chun-Li.
- Sensei Greg obtained his abilities by watching a ton of anime. What's to say somebody who reads a similar amount of superhero comics wouldn't gain similar abilities? Especially since at the beginning of the arc, Greg and Justin mentioned the Super Mutant Principle...
- Jossed. Currently Dex can only summon a fairy under his own power. The other summons and abilities were due to a temporary boost in power via the pendant he wore. Also, he never displays fighting skills at all during the battle let alone Anime-Style Martial Arts. Greg, meanwhile, was already a black belt in three disciplines before his epiphany.
- Jossed. Sirleck is still trying to get a new host. And has one in its sights ...
- (Fairy Jerry, Faerry for short.) On the grounds that Dex got his spellgraving the day Jerry died, and first summoned her the next, at much the same time as Susan was showing her version of the summon-fairy spell to Nanase... This is Jerry's way of staying close to those he’s promised to help, though in unrecognisable form for now. Not a greatly different form from the other recently-reborn immortals as it happens, and suitably styled for Dex’s taste... But has some other power intervened to “entertain”ingly impact the outcome while Faerry is still “out of commission”? Ah... While we’re at it, Dex is Susan’s father, some years on, having been chewed up and spat out by his ex and discovered the important things in life (comics and sparkly things). Jerry may not have grasped the whole of their relationship at short notice – or maybe he did and knows there’s a potential reconciliation on the go (and Dex will make a much better father now than in his erstwhile effort), so she’s in the perfect place. When she grows a bit she can go to school and join the feminist club, thus being a position to help, and also to watch Susan occasionally wield hammers, which may help with memory and anyway, Jerry was into it.
- Dex's fairy is a summon, Jerry is an immortal. Immortals can't be summons since they are fundamentally different. Fairy summons are not baby immortals. Immortals can pretend to be summons as Pandora pretended to be Nanase's summon briefly but that's about it. Immortals are not supposed to intervene in the lives of mortals other than guide or empower them so even if Jerry wanted to pretend to be Dex's fairy summon he couldn't without breaking the laws of the Immortals.
- Greg is Dreaming, most likely, the pre-Awake state. Awakening means gaining your own spells and then using the weird experience system to gain more. Dreaming refers to anyone not awake who can use spells of some kind, like Susan's chest-summoning, Ellen's beam, and Elliot's ability shapeshift into a girl. Greg developed Anime Martial-arts, whose higher techniques use magic energy, as well as building up magic energy. Greg probably could awaken at this point, but he needs other magic beings to do so.
- The original genetic sources for Shade Tail consisted of a naturally strong human male, in addition to the uryuom, squirrel and lespuko sources. Commander Jaguar on the other hand appears to be a seyunolu of some kind and is almost certainly not human.
- Jossed: Aw, so close! Carol is her sister!
- 1: He's using the fob watch trick to appear human - hence his existential despair at flagrant violations of physics (because his human form doesn't know any better).
- 2: He's accidentally in the EGS universe due to a TARDIS malfunction. It's absolutely true that time travel isn't possible in the EGS universe... but the Doctor isn't from the EGS universe, is he?
- Jossed. In the commentary of the came strip it was stated that it was not the writer's intention, and that "if defying the laws of physics made Doctor Who cry, he'd never get anything done."
- Jossed: Regardless of what he may have suspected before, he knows Elliot’s Cheerleadra now.
- Not necessarily, as she has less than a minute to explain anything before being reset. He may have more children but she didn't have time to go down the list of who he fathered.
- Given how rare it is for elves to have children in the first place, the list of children Raven has fathered (all without his knowledge) is probably very short; maybe even just 2 children: Susan's ancestor and Diane.
- Not necessarily, as she has less than a minute to explain anything before being reset. He may have more children but she didn't have time to go down the list of who he fathered.
- Jossed: If Beta Tedd was Second life Tedd he wouldn’t have called her a crazy haired girl, he would have easily recognized her as a Greater Chimera since he would have grown up with them.
- Jossed. Terra is the alternate version of Tedd.
Meta/Storyline
- Perhaps the better theory, judging by this comic, is that it's the classmate that randomly approached Sarah and said "You have a good heart". She was also the only one shown mulling over what Elliot "realized" after watching the review.
- Jossed: It's Tony's friend.
- Then again, so far, Grace experienced Deja Vu only when looking at the "unaware marked" people (Justin and Rhoda). The magic marks may have some significance... or even be central to the Emissary's message.
- Close. It's her wife, Tara, trying to find that first griffin.
- Jossed. Chaos was actually directly behind Luke and confirms that it was Tedd's aura.
Given Tengu's size, I can't see it being more difficult for him to enchant the alcoholic beverages of one apartment than all the apartments ... and if he did so, that would mean that Our Heroes are anything but clear of the zone of his command.
- Jossed. Even with extra ambient magic energy he considered it a feat to create a new “flock” in a single night as opposed to it taking months and having to do it one at a time. He said the alcohol is a conduit for his power; the enchantment on the punch wasn’t enough by itself. Also, he wanted to taunt Nanase so he wouldn’t have bothered enchanting people Nanase wasn’t likely to see.
- Jossed: the Will of Magic specifically refers to Tedd as Van's half-sibling.
- Jossed by dan in discord, "but other possibilities remain on the table"
- But close. She's actually his granddaughter.
- Dan mentioned that he was thinking of doing a "Goomanji III" story, Hamma's now been canonized at the conference of immortals, and Tedd's mentioned that she's going to be looking into transformation-themed party games. Plus there's been a lot of emphasis on Ashley's self-and-other-transformation fantasies in this arc, more than in previous storylines.
- Jossed. Hanma's game may or may not be canonical at some point, but it didn't happen during this story.
- Jossed. Noah has his origins at the other lab, the one that created Damien.
- In these strips, there are two bickering off-panel voices who are helping him track down Magus. According to Dan, it's possible to figure out who they are. One is formal and polite, doesn't know what a dinosaur is, and his specific objection to being called a fossil is "I was never in the ground", which possibly implies that he fitted some of the other characteristics of a fossil, such as being Taken for Granite. That sounds like Abraham to me. (Although I admit I don't know how tracking Magus might be covered by his vow, even the new version.) I'm less certain about the other one being Jay (especially given her opinion of her grandfather's job), but she's probably young (she's called a trainee), she has strong opinions on people who don't know how their spells work, and she's "very grumpy, and [Wolf] do[es]n't know how her hair works", so it fits the information we have.
- Magus (or rather his current body) is techncially a creation of the Diamond, so helping to hunt him down would be in line with Abraham's oath.
- Abraham confirmed, Jay jossed - the trainee is Vladia, and other bickering voice is Raven. (I missed that Arthur refers to "deputies" and the trainee.)
- Arthur's full name is Arthur J. Arthur (out-of-universe it stands for "Just", but that can easily be changed in canon). If he's Jay's paternal grandfather, that would mean Jay's name is Jay Arthur. That could mean the J. stands for Jay, and Jay is directly named after him. That also might be related to the fact that teachers apparently call her Jill, either as part of her dislike of her grandfather or as some form of secrecy.
- Jossed, Jay's actual name is Jill and Jay is the nickname.
Elliot
- But I LOVE Elliot and Sarah's relationship! DAMN YOU SARAH'S UTERUS!
- Nah, their relationship should be cleared up at the end of the current arc, once Elliot gets a spell that doesn't involve him being a woman.
- Note, 2012 December 7: Whatever arc was "current" as of the prior bullet is long over — and Elliot still doesn't have a spell that doesn't involve him being a woman.
- That was my interpretation of Sarah's, well misinterpretation of Mr. Verres's Note in Panel 5 of this comic. A lot has been retconned since then, though.
- Also relevant to the possibility is their differing reactions to a mindless action movie set in Paris.
- A new challenger has arrived! By which I mean: is Elliot/Susan a possibility? And if so, how much hilarity would have to ensue in the process?
- The sketchbook suggested this as far back as 2003.
- As of the end of "Rocks Fall Nobody Is Hired", they're coworkers.
- At the end of "By the Numbers" they agree to watch some movies together. Just the two of them.
- Their feelings about phone calls are similar.
- Heck, their feelings about asking people out are similar.
- If "There Be Whales Here, Pt. 2" is any indication, things aren't looking too good. Elliot hasn't called her in a while, and if she finds out Susan told him to call her, it's going to make her irritation about his not taking the initiative worse. And she probably won't be happy if it turns out Elliot didn't tell her about the movie-watching with Susan on his day off.
- Confirmed.
- There is still a chance that Sarah might change her mind, but it's nearly as good as confirmed, yes.
- Confirmed. So very much confirmed at this point. It's now only a matter of time before Susan and Diane start clashing over who wins Elliot's affection.
- Given that Elliot has asked Ashley out, this is becoming more likely. It's too soon to tell if it's confirmed, though.
- They’ve gone on 2 dates as of 2018 so this is pretty much confirmed.
- Susan does ask an interesting question here.
- However, it could just be her way of verifying that the awakening was imperfect, and emphasizing the importance of texting Ellen.
- Also significant is the fact that Ellen had no problems accepting being female, has no hints at all of gender dysphoria, and overall seems happier and better adjusted than Elliot.
- This comic seems to suggest that Elliot is genderfluid.
- It is confirmed that Elliot identifies as what he refers to as gender casual which according to his definition indicates he falls under the nonbinary spectrum but in a different way than Tedd in that he leans more toward being agender as Susan mentions.
Tedd
Simple. The watch is supposed to only work when the intent of the user is somehow formatted correctly. Sarah needed to be oblivious because oblivious-Sarah will be neither intentionally focusing in the way that the watch requires to work, nor intentionally not focusing in the way the watch requires to work.— Robin Zimm
- Confirmed by both Tengu and Word of God.
- So, the question is, who is the father of Tedd's sibling? If it's Mr. Verres, then perhaps Noriko took off before he knew she was pregnant. However, her obsession with having a powerful magical heir leads me to guess that she left Mr. Verres because she didn't think he could father a suitable child after Tedd came out magic-free. She would have sought out another powerful wizard... Agent Wolf? Arthur Arthur? An Uryuom using the transformation gun? I would say an immortal, but a half-elf wouldn't be able to continue the bloodline. Most likely it would have been another of Raven's favorite students from school, since they would have known each other and Dan seems to love scenarios with maximum drama potential.
- Considering the time she spent in Europe, it's not unreasonable to assume Noriko has another family there.
- Oh, definitely. This strip practically spells that out. Not only did Ellen reach a similar conclusion about how his opinion that "Lesbians are neato" was conflicting with one of those lesbians being his cousin, but the exact words he used in his panicked denial of there being anything attractive about the situation was a cry of "Ugly cousin! Ugly cousin!"
- As of this strip he's prepared to concede that she's "theoretically good looking ... (I wouldn't know because she's my cousin)".
- There's also the point that Nanase has been repeatedly stated to look almost exactly like her aunt Noriko, and Tedd has a whole subscription's worth of mommy issues. And the "ugly cousin" lines came most at the beginning of the comic, when Tedd's various issues were even less resolved than they are nowadays.
No, in order to find the origins of Tedd's glowy-ness, we have to go waaay back, into the very beginnings of the first Sister arc. As you may remember, Elliot's first real gender-swapping predicament began when he accidentally got on Tedd's nerves, which caused him to erupt in a fit of rage and accidentally blast Elliot with the TF gun. Now, this seems distinctly out-of-character for Tedd, seeing as how both before and after this incident Tedd's androgyny has been played for laughs, and even Tedd himself has admitted he doesn't understand why he got so angry. This suggests that his emotions were invisibly manipulated somehow by an outside force.
Gee, that would mean the culprit would have to be invisible, intangible, and capable of amplifying the emotions of others. Now who does that sound like?
Here's my take on the thing: Magus seems to require for as-yet-unspecified reasons a female Elliot whose body he can possess so he can move on to the next step of his similarly cryptic plan. He's got no idea how on earth he's going to pull this off, when suddenly he's presented with an absolute jackpot of a situation: his target in the same room with a semi-lonely teenager who has the capability to change the genders of people with SCIENCE! and is currently feeling more than a little wangsty about how effeminate he looks. Magus supercharges Tedd's anger at Elliot, gun does its zappy thing, Tedd's already-magically-influenced self awakens at least partially, and now his magic turns him into what is essentially an emotion-powered magic engine: the more extreme his emotional state, the more energy he produces.
He will later use this as a substitute for the generator he tried building after the Painted Black arc, creating the first Ganmen and kicking the ass of the next big villain.
- First of all, a partial Awakening is called Dreaming. Not sure if this is what Tedd is doing, since it doesn't quite fit with pre-awakened Susan's abilities, but possible. However, I can only remember Tedd glowing twice, both times when experiencing intense feelings of love for Grace. However, that didn't happen during Painted Black. This is explained when Tedd and Elliot discuss Tedd's decrease in perverted behavior towards women who are not Grace, instead becoming much more interested in Grace alone. Couple this with Jerry's explanation that strong emotions trigger Awakening and magic's flair for the dramatic and Tedd is most likely just about to Awaken based on his love for Grace.
- Jossed. Tedd is magically impaired.
- Maybe not. This page hints that Tedd may not be as impaired as he thinks...
- Unfortunately, Tedd is still not a spellcaster.
- Confirmed! he’s not a spellcaster in the sense of someone who can get more spells of his own but he ‘‘is’’ a wizard and has awakened. Also, Magus manipulating Tedd into zapping Elliot was also confirmed.
- Maybe not. This page hints that Tedd may not be as impaired as he thinks...
- Going away from the evidence-based argument of whether this is jossed or not, if Tedd's Dreaming or Awakened, what would his abilities be? I'd guess a magitek-style technomancer: at a young age he easily mastered how to make the TF gun, alien magitek, work, and can make his "spell-watches". He's Weak, but Skilled, to the degree that the magic sensor thinks he's in essence a muggle. Alternatively, his powerglove is in essence what his magical abilities are naturally: he passively gathers magical energy, and then can imbue it into artifacts.
- Confirmed, Tedd is a Seer, a natural wandmaker, his watches are in essence wands. Also, the Magic Analysis wand gave false positives when used on him because he subconsciously resisted it and was just that powerful even as a baby.
- And why is Nanase's last name Kitsune when it's her mother who is so obviously Japanese?
- In several countries, Japan included, the husband can marry into the wife's family, taking the surname. Nanase and Tedd's family seems to be important enough for that to be plausible.
- And what is Tedd's favored transformation? Exactly.
- It doesn't seem relevant. Tedd's favored transformation is women. Of course, there are some cat morphs as well, but foxes are Canidae (the biological family of dogs), not Felidae (the biological family of cats).
- Kitsune are often portrayed as tricksters, which would give an explanation as to why Nanase's magic is heavily stealth-oriented.
- Well, odd hair colors have been established as being normal in the EGS-verse, but the other reasoning still applies.
- Unless odd hair colors are normal because some degree of Immortal ancestry is more common in this universe than we've been led to believe.
- Immortal ancestry is not possible; the offspring of an immortal and mortal cannot have children.
- That's a lie immortal allow to persist due to irresponsible parenting; all humans with magic affinities, wizards, seers and, most likely, magical dynasties have Immortals somewhere in their family trees. Given that both Tedd and likely-his-little-brother Van are seers, as well as the amount of power Nanase has despite her lack of proper training (just Anime Martial Arts + self-taught), there's at least one Immortal, more likely several, in the Kitsune's family tree.
- Unless odd hair colors are normal because some degree of Immortal ancestry is more common in this universe than we've been led to believe.
- One of Tedd's defining characteristics is his androgyny. Youthful!Raven is also incredibly androgynous.
Susan
- Basically anything that skirts the "half-immortals can't have kids" rule, which would not rule out a relation through his mortal father's side.
- Pandora is Susan's father! I mean, come on, it's not like she can't turn into a man—she turned into Agent Wolf once, you know. Susan's—and Diane's—entire lives are part of some elaborate plot. This would make them both elves, but perhaps they don't get pointed ears until later in life?
- Interesting thing to note - though it's gone through Art Evolution, Susan was originally drawn with pointier ears than the other characters.
- Raven may very well have said it explicitly. "I want to be able to credibly claim that you're my niece."
- Perhaps half-immortals are like the half-elven in the Lord of the Rings, able to renounce their magical lineage and become human.
- Having an immortal mother, Raven would have a human father. Perhaps his human father had other, fully human kids, which could be one of Susan’s parents or grandparents (or great grandparents… we don't really know how old Raven is)
- Based on recent events, the idea that Susan (and by extension Diane) are descended from Raven has become a lot more plausible. We know that people with innate magical power are descended from something and given Pandora's comments about accidentally lying to Raven it seems plausible that Half-Immortals are not infertile and that natural magic users are descended from them. In this context Pandora's comment that "of course they were his" would seem to imply that Raven has accidentally fathered multiple children without realizing it. Given this comic the idea that those accidental children either were Susan and Diane or were the parent(s) of Susan and Diane seems awfully plausible.
- Confirmed; Susan is a distant descendant of Raven.
Mr. Verres
Or maybe just talked to him.
Diane
- Logic is pretty simple on this one: the punch has a weird aftertaste, Diane isn't drinking any of it, and Diane has always enjoyed a good bit of deduction.
- The graphic for "Meddling Teenagers" has a strong resemblance to the logo for Charlie's Angels, which had three women solving mysteries.
- Charlotte's association with the "Meddling Teenagers" adds to the association, as they are now "Charlotte's Angels."
- The punch is confirmed, although there was alcohol, too. Not-Tengu enchanted the alcohol to produce the effect.
Noah
- Seems pretty damn likely, actually. The Child is seen apologizing to a gravestone for failing to defeat Damien...specifically, by being beaten to the opportunity by Grace. What do we know about Noah? Well, he and the Child have some vague resemblance (the Child is mostly silhouetted, but (s)he has a pretty wiry build). His parents are dead (specifically, as a result of some massive secret kept from the public). He's strong and fast enough to give Elliot a run for his money in both store-racing and basketball...with Elliot strongly suspecting that Noah is holding himself back. And we know the poor guy has some rage issues (and specifically brings up that some things are unforgivable enough to deserve violent revenge). Yeah...pretty damn likely.
- confirmed
- Oh, sweet me, confirmed.
- confirmed
- Confirmed. According to Dan Shive, he's pan.
Pandora Chaos Raven
- The events of the New And Old Flames storyline definitely seem to be orchestrated by Chaos. More specifically the pendant worn by Dex has an earthen jar on it and the myth of Pandora's Box actually refers to a large storage jar. "Destroying the world as it is now known" seems to be referring to the destruction of the Masquerade.
And what powerful being do we know who has an interest in causing magical chaos?
- Confirmed by herself in this strip.
- Understandable, since Pandora seems to be (though it's ambiguous whether she's behind it) marking random people, granting them powers (Dex's summons, Justin's battle aura, and Rhoda's size-shifting powers so far).
- So far, her horrifying actions are limited to giggling in a sinister way and trying to drive a bunch of students and TV crew crazy.
- Oh, man. She's gonna make us all so bewildered.
- Um, going You Have Failed Me on Magus when he refused to kill Abraham and evidently leaving him stranded somewhere? Offering to "destroy the world and make it anew"? Almost getting a few people killed with her fire-things and dragon? None of those seem exactly horrifying?
- It's possible she is pumping magic into the world through her "empowered" pawns. As the magic level rises, the chances are better that her son will be more free to act in a world gone crazy with magic... and in the meantime, she gets her entertainment.
- It's exactly what she was doing. Besides, she likes the world to keep existing, it's where some of her favourite toys are. Like Tedd, Grace, and Elliot.
- Confirmed: During her conversation with the emissary of the magic, she outright states that making magic known and available to everyone is her goal.
- Confirmed: If pulling a Heroic Sacrifice by directly killing Aberrations threatening her son (and thereby triggering her reset) don't count as being/turning good, nothing does.
Noriko Kitsune Verres
- Tedd and Nanase have similar features while their fathers do not.
- Doesn't explain the names though.
- I think you have a severe misunderstanding of how maiden names work.
- And I think you have a severely obsolete understanding of how maiden names work. These days anything goes. I even know someone who changed all of her names (first, last, and middle) when she got married.
- "Severely Obsolete"? Try PROPER. A woman's maiden name in the traditional sense is also a woman's maiden name in the way it is supposed to be. Just because one person decided to completely change their name when they married does NOT mean that 'anything goes' when it comes to maiden names, it just means that the particular person wanted to deviate away from the tradition of keeping the maiden name as a middle name.
- They could have followed the Japanese practice where the wife's family adopts the husband in order to preserve the family name in families without male heirs. Or the even more common practice of the wife keeping her maiden name. As for Nanase's name, you get whatever name your parents wrote on the birth certificate application. Using the father's name is not the law, just a tradition.
- In this troper's country, the man is allowed to change his name to that of his wife's. Wouldn't be much of a stretch if Kitsune is the maiden name of Nanase's mother.
- Makes sense to me. Weren't Ted and Nanase explicitly stated to be cousins?
- Yup. Mr. Verres says that Nanase's mother is his "sister-in-law", which means that Tedd's mother is either the sister of Nanase's mother or father (it's not made clear which).
- Sorry, doesn't work that way. in a strictly legal sense, one is only an in-law to a sibling's spouse. (Your brother's wife is you sister-in-law, your wife's brother is your brother-in-law, but his wife is your wife's sister-in-law, not yours. So, Mr. Verres' can only truly be Nanase's uncle and her mother's brother-in-law if Mrs. Kitsune were married to his brother. Since that's probably not the case Dan Shive either doesn't understand this stuff either or likely simply doesn't care. Most people either don't know or don't care because the strict definition only matters when you're determining inheritance.
- I'm voting for 'doesn't understand this either', as you must have either been involved in a lawsuit or make a hobby of researching obscure legalities to even know that....
- Wait... so according to that, using: me-brother-brother's wife (BW). BW is MY sister-in-law, but I'm not her brother-in-law? (because I'm not married to her sister)
- Nanase's mother has a shade of purple in her hair. The same color as Tedd's hair and probably his mother's hair as well.
- Word of God on this subject, back in 2004: "It was actually "sister in-law"; the relation is on Tedd's mother's side, and even if she was Mr. Verres' blood sister, she would take on the last name of the man she married."
- Doesn't explain the names though.
- Given how traditional Nanase's mother is, this Q&A leads me to believe that Tedd's mom is Nanase's mom's sister. Considering they have said (or was it just hinted at?) that Tedd's mom essentially abandoned him and his father.
- We've seen that Nanase's mom has pull in Mr. Verres' organization, and knows more about Nanase's abilities than she ought to, which suggests that Nanase's mom's sister may have similar knowledge.
- Raven revealed during Death Sentence that he taught both of Tedd's parents and the reason they're no longer together is she put her work with the supernatural ahead of her family, so confirmed.
Other Characters
- Lavender the Uryuom has adopted a rather Head-Turning Beauty body-shape and seems both rather attentive towards him and quickly affected by shifts in his mood. While, by all indications, they aren't physically compatible with human beings, Uryuom attraction is based on personality - and Mr. Verres is a smart, principled, and ultimately kind-hearted man. She could very plausibly have at least a crush on him.
- Considering Mr. Verres' style, things probably haven't gone beyond subtle flirtation - and he may be unwilling to let it go any further for a variety of reasons.
- Dunno. Given the demonstrated Uryuom tendency to be overly-literal about some things she just might jut be under the influence of a lot of old movies.
- Alternately, the feelings are completely reciprocal. Mr. Verres just doesn't feel like telling Tedd or his friends about it just yet.
- If this is anything to go by, the theory has just been confirmed.
- And, well, go, you crazy olds.
- Interesting, it kinda fits with other stuff. Rhoda is a small person, and always sees everyone else as being huge and intimidating. In one panel, it shows that she sees Justin towering over her, even though he says that he's not really THAT tall. But what if she unconsciously increased Justin's size temporarily?
- Confirmed by this strip. Rhoda has a magic mark and unknowingly enlarged the boar as it came toward her with her eyes closed. Whether she ever affected Justin's size is unconfirmed.
- Confirmed as of this strip.
- Why yes, yes he is ... Confirmed.
- Sirleck pretty obviously intends to pull a Grand Theft Me once Magus is brought into their world.
- Confirmed: he failed though thanks to Ellen.
- Circumstances are setting this one up. Note that, when he possesses Elliot, he actually looks like his original self, not a busty female, despite using Ellen's beam as a conduit.
- This seems likely. Not-Tengu referred to Tedd as Noriko's first-born son suggesting that Tedd has a younger half-brother. Being a seer is at least partly genetic so presumably any of Tedd's siblings would also potentially be seers. Combined that with the fact that Van's mother is a monster hunter living in Europe and yeah it seems very likely that Van and Tedd are half brothers (they could in theory be full brothers but I think Mr. Verres would have objected to his ex-wife not letting him see one of his sons).
- Confirmed here.
Meta/Storyline
- Haven't you? Or are they so well hidden that they've been there the whole time, and you've never noticed?
- I think this is more evident in the fact that blue, purple and green are not especially unusual natural hair colors in this
settingtime period.
- I pretty sure the whole "this is a webcomic" thing ensures that this is an alternate universe. That's what comics are after all.
- Confirmed. Not-Tengu was a shapeshifter.
- Apparently confirmed. It is a different griffin, the griffin is in search of Avalon to find her wife (yes, her wife) and is under the impression Elliot knows something, so unless there was some confusion with a third griffin involved at some point...
- You do realise that Pandora prefers not knowing the outcome, and thus will make sure her plans make little sense when considering what her objectives are right?
- Worth noting, the dragon didn't attack the road, it attacked Melissa, likely to draw out Noah (who was specifically manipulated into being in the area).
- Confirmed
- Confirmed in this and following comics by Tedd’s father and the Immortal who committed said plans.
- Really? Magus/Elliot seems obvious, (so obvious that there was no need to make it explicit) but I always assumed Terra was that universe's counterpart of Nanase, not Tedd. Their rivalry certainly seems a lot more like Nanase/Elliot than Elliot/Tedd. School of magic is a given.
- Nah, look at Terra's eyes in the second link. Definitely Tedd.
- And, his name is terra, we know how likes Dan to conserve the first letters of the name.
- Either way she's definitely not a Nanase. I thought so too until I realized that in one scene Magus says that Nanase "would so be a man in my universe."
- Nah, look at Terra's eyes in the second link. Definitely Tedd.
- He's Ellen's father because in this strip and this one, which triggered the creation of Ellen, Magus was almost certainly manipulating Tedd's emotions. That said, he could still be an alternate Elliot, just not for that reason.
- Confirmed Magus is Elliot and Terra is Tedd.
- Subverted Magus was born as ellen, not elliot.
- Supported here: "The next incident could be the last straw, and that would solve the problem for decades."
- And Word of God confirmed it in this strip's commentary
- According to this comic natural magic users are all descended from something. Immortals seem like a logical answer, especially since Immortals apparently decided to cover it up.
- Confirmed here.
- Jossed due to the above WMG.
- It will be a The Legend of Korra, Harmonic Convergence-style event that causes drastic changes to the nature of the setting, brings new characters into the spotlight, and potentially sets the scene for the story's climax.
- Confirmed, as it summoned Tedd, Arthur, and a British boy named Van to help decide how it should change.
- However, it's not a reset as described previously — the characters convince magic not to change, and it explains that even that will make some things change, just not the massive, potentially cataclysmic changes that the reset would have wrought.
- Confirmed here.
Second, and perhaps more tellingly, Dr Sciuridae claimed that the prophecy of the "Master of Fire" is 'very old', which means that Chimera - and hence Uryuoms - have been around in hiding on the main universe's Earth for a long time as well.
- Humans are not a necessary part of the Seyunolu equation; Uryuom/$OTHER_ALIEN Seyunolu (Lespuko?) could have existed long before the two species met. Therefore, the prophecy could predate the Uryuom's presence on Earth.
- No, the prophesy was specifically mentioned as one being passed down by human seyunolu.
- Confirmed, Uryoums have been on Earth since the mysterious collapse of the Bronze Age.
- Humans are not a necessary part of the Seyunolu equation; Uryuom/$OTHER_ALIEN Seyunolu (Lespuko?) could have existed long before the two species met. Therefore, the prophecy could predate the Uryuom's presence on Earth.