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  • Game Shows:
    • The Price Is Right... especially the start of the Drew Carey era, where some viewers would pick apart every change and everything Carey did that Bob Barker didn't do, and swore that this would surely be the end of the show. This gained intensity after Roger Dobkowitz's tenure as producer ended at the conclusion of Season 36, the first Carey-hosted one.
      • This hatred has extended to executive producer Mike Richards, to the point that the fact that he would be hosting GSN's version of Pyramid made people think that that show would be ruined forever too.
    • Wheel of Fortune:
      • Some saw the original charm and magic of the show cease when original host Chuck Woolery resigned (in a pay dispute with Merv Griffin), with a bland-by-comparison host Pat Sajak.
      • Then, when Sajak left the NBC version (only; he remained host of the evening show) and Rolf Benirshke — who had never hosted a TV series beforehand — took over.
      • Some fans still mourn the passing of shopping after each puzzle is played, saying that the experience is the reason they tuned in in the first place.
      • When the daytime series moved to CBS, dropped shopping and drastically lowered the budget. The first month saw wheel values of $50 and $75, compared to the minimum $200 seen in the daytime show (by 1989).
    • Family Feud:
      • The progression of hosts during the post-Ray Combs/Richard Dawson eras.
      • During the current Steve Harvey-era, the increasing reliance of questions appealing to the lowest common denominator.
  • Family Matters: When the long-running series originally premiered in 1989 on ABC (as a spinoff of Perfect Strangers), it was touted as a gentle family comedy about a middle-class, two-income African American family. The series was getting very marginal ratings ... and then one day, a nerdy boy with a squeaky voice, suspenders and large-rimmed glasses suspended on a necklace, and an insatiable 1. crush on the protagonist family's daughter; and 2. desire to spend time with the protagonist family arrived on the scene. The show was, to the purists (some whom would have said "Oh well" had the series continued on its original course but been canceled) never the same.
    • Urkel was introduced early enough, and the show became popular only afterward, that your average fan probably didn't start watching until he was introduced, and to many, he was the star of the show, some even calling the show itself "Urkel". But the true "ruined forever" period is probably when the series began introducing more and more sci-fi gadgets Urkel invented in his basement (where was he getting all the money?), including gadgets that turned him into other people, like Elvis, or memorably his suave alternate persona Stefon Urquell. While these wacky misadventures were initially used sparingly, they eventually took over as the show's premise, with later seasons featuring such plots as Urkel inventing a shrink ray or traveling back in time to have an adventure on a pirate ship. And this was on a show called "Family Matters".
  • Arrow: The Third season is the common place to the controversy, some people will go further back and call the second season and the numerous signs of Felicity's relevance the place where it was ruined, the last episode with Deathstroke is a probable point as well, after that either Secret Origins of Felicity Smoak, Draw back your Bow, The Climb, Left Behind and Tatsu speaking of Olicity even when she doesn't know about it, Uprising and the infantile Olicity scene at the end of it, but above all The Fallen and My name is Oliver Queen are all likely candidates for the moment Arrow stopped being Arrow and became the Olicity show.
    • Season 4 episode "Eleven Fifty Nine" deserves a mention. Laurel's death caused massive outrages in the fandom in particular fans of the Black Canary and launched the #NoLaurelNoArrow hashtag that quickly became popular on twitter.
    • The general reception to Season 4 of Arrow was so bad that most of the fans defected to the Daredevil (2015) base, including the moderators over at the Arrow subreddit. Not a joke.
    • The fact that Oliver and Felicity interrupt Barry and Iris' wedding to have their own on Crisis on Earth-X would lead to the Arrow subreddit becoming a The Punisher (2017) forum out of protest.
  • Dexter had the timing of incestuously hooking up Dexter with his sister/step-sister Deb, which, beside being squicky, happened just when the actors had finalized their divorce in real life. Even though the two characters are Not Blood Siblings and they were never involved romantically.
  • Saturday Night Live has been jumping the shark more or less every week since 1976, depending on who you talk to. Despite the fact that there are seasons widely regarded among fans and show alums alike to be some of the worst in its run (1980-81, 94-95, and to a lesser degree, 2004-05 among them), the nature of the show dictates that there are bound to be great episodes and terrible episodes every year. Nevertheless, there are still viewers who seem to tune in every week simply to claim that the show hasn't been the same since Chevy Chase/Gilda Radner/Eddie Murphy/Phil Hartman/Chris Farley/Dana Carvey/Will Ferrell/Tina Fey left. Someone (Lorne Michaels?) said that people probably began crying this starting with episode two.
  • 24 fans swore up and down that if Secretary Heller survived his Season 5 plunge into the Pacific (a Heroic Sacrifice to keep the BBEG from using him as a hostage), that would be one suspension of disbelief too many; a sign that the 24 producers just stopped caring and neither should we. He survived.
    • The calls that 24 had been "ruined forever" started as early as the first season, when Teri Bauer fell out of a moving vehicle that exploded and was affected by short-term amnesia (which made her do some incredibly stupid things, like go back to the house where an assassin was stationed). Of course, this all stopped when Teri died in the first-season finale. The fans have also leveled this term at many incidents over the years, including Kim Bauer being stalked by a cougar, Jack Bauer dying at the end of an episode, anything Kim did in season 2 and 3, the Kyle Singer subplot at the beginning of season 3, the rest of season 3, Tony Almeida's "death" and most of season 6. No one can agree on which was worse, even though the series has always had a chain of good-bad seasons.
    • Other examples include the Face–Heel Turn of Tony Almeida and the death of Renee Walker in the final season. You can bet come the new limited series in 2014 it'll probably be hit with this at one point or another too.
  • Doctor Who:
    • The build-up and early days of the new series saw plenty of this, to the extent that one couldn't help but wonder whether the producers were taking some kind of sadistic glee in prolonging the hardcore fanboys' constant whining about the subject. Paul McGann isn't starring? The show now sucks. The Doctor's wearing a leather jacket? The show now sucks. Billie Piper's the companion? The show now sucks. The new logo? Sucks, as does the rest of the show now. But perhaps the nadir of this was a thread on The Doctor Who Forum decrying the new series and the fact that the producers obviously didn't care... based on shots of the new TARDIS looking slightly different from the old one and having slightly bigger windows. This last one was referenced directly in the series itself. Of course, even after the show had started airing, constant threads about how this episode was the worst one ever and that the producers should be fired continued for a long, long time.
    • "Continued"? Past tense? Seriously, in the year 100000000000000, when all that's left is a planet called Malcassairo inhabited by the remnants of humanity, huddled together for warmth, one of them will still be complaining that David Tennant isn't as good as Colin Baker, and Russell T Davies ruined the series by bringing it back and making it the most watched show on a Saturday afternoon.
    • This is made even more ridiculous when you realize that there were at least three different "old" TARDIS props to compare it to (four if you count the one in the telemovie which, let's face it, people who complain about this kind of thing probably won't) that had all been used in the old series and the new one looked more like an actual police box than any of them.
      • Never mind the fact that the console room interior and the console itself changed no less than seven times over the course of the original show, only one of which — the one in "The Time Monster" — was universally disliked by everyone, cast, crew, and fans alike.
      • Also the fact that the TARDIS is supposed to be able to change shape anyway. So any alterations could just be the chameleon circuit acting glitchy before freezing up again.
    • People were moaning that the RTD-era TARDIS didn't look like a real police box several years on. Then they got a look at the Steven Moffat-era TARDIS... and a whole new round of moaning began. Moffat's transition from being the cool alternative to the official head writer basically saw him inheriting RTD's scapegoat status.
      • And what made this latest bout of TARDIS-related angst particularly ironic was that the Moffat-era TARDIS is clearly designed as a clear homage to / recreation of the original TARDIS prop used when the show originally debuted. They can't win coming or going.
    • Ever since the show's earliest days, fans have cried foul whenever a new Doctor is announced. The show is always ruined forever after your favorite Doctor's tenure ended. Interestingly, some of them repeat — 11th Doctor Matt Smith was criticized for being "too young", a complaint also launched at David Tennant, Christopher Eccleston, Colin Baker, Peter Davison, and even Tom Baker. Then when an older Doctor finally came along, 12th Doctor Peter Capaldi, he was criticized for being "too old". Similarly, the departure or introduction of a new companion will be met with outrage as well. Just to show how much of a Broken Base this show has, The Doctor Who Forum sometimes had long threads that mocked the more extreme reactions with good humor.
    • Here is a partial list of the times Doctor Who has been Ruined FOREVER. You will note that some of them are the reversal of an event that ruined it in the first place.
    • The debut of the new Daleks in "Victory of the Daleks" got a lot of this kind of reaction from fans. Granted, they do look quite different from previous versions, but the reaction was still quite extreme. Since this was arguably Moffat's first misstep as showrunner, at least some of this heat seemed to be a mixture of fans overreacting over the fact that he wasn't perfect after all, coupled with a bit of "we told you so!" gloating from fans of Russell T. Davies who hadn't quite managed to accept that things had moved on a bit.
    • There were howls of outrage when Catherine Tate was announced as the new companion. No way did she fit the show. She was a silly comedienne. She'd be dreadful. She turned out to be a huge favourite to the extent that many fans hated the way she was written out and wanted more of her. note 
    • Doctor Who didn't win at the National Television Awards. Clear proof that Steven Moffat and Matt Smith have RUINED DOCTOR WHO FOREVER.
      • In a similar vein, the fact that Series/Season 5 of the new Doctor Who didn't get ratings that were particularly outstanding is proof to the RTD-lovers that the show sucks now. Despite the fact that there was a little thing known as The World Cup running at the same time.
      • The funny thing? Even with the World Cup, S5 is pretty much in line with the ratings for S1-3. It's only when compared against S4 — the one with Catherine Tate as companion, Billie Piper returning, and pretty much every main character in the big finale — that it looks like a dip. And while S5's ratings weren't outstanding by Who's standards, pretty much any other UK TV drama would kill for ratings like that these days (avg. 7.7 million).
    • It's mentioned above that fans hated the new logo introduced in 2005. What is often conveniently forgotten is the late 2004-early 2005 BBC News report that the production team, in an ultimate example of The Law of Fan Jackassery, actually reported receiving a death threat over it. A logo.
      • And, of course, when another new logo appeared in 2010, yet another outpouring of grief ensued. No word on any death threats, though.
    • The TV Movie makes the Doctor a Half-Human Hybrid? Ruined FOREVER by an Americannote  who didn't get the show! The Eighth Doctor Adventures give this an Author's Saving Throw? Ruined FOREVER by writers who didn't get Philip Segal's vision!
    • Within seconds of the announcement, complaints were being made about the Twelfth Doctor, Peter Capaldi.
    • In fact, it's a long-running fandom joke that Doctor Who was actually Ruined FOREVER when they added the alien in a time-traveling phonebox to the perfectly good show about a policeman walking past a foggy junkyard at night and hearing a strange noise.
      • It turns out the joke's very close to real, as there's a newspaper clipping in Verity Lambert's scrapbooks stamped 7 Dec 1963 complaining the show lost its way after the first episode!
    • "Dark Water" canonizing gender bending regenerations with Missy revealed to be the Master earned very mixed reception.
    • When the Doctor went back to Gallifrey to face Time Lord society in "The Deadly Assassin", and it turned out it was a Deadly Decadent Court based around a Whole-Plot Reference to the Who Shot JFK? conspiracy theories instead of something totally alien like Crystal Spires and Togas, the Doctor Who Appreciation Society fanzine announced the series was terrible now that the Time Lords were ruined.
    • In the 1980s, John Nathan-Turner befriended Ian Levine who began acting as unofficial 'continuity advisor' on the show, tweaking things like One-Steve Limit aversions and (occasionally) entire plot points and casting decisions. He eventually left the 'post' when JNT Stunt Cast the new companion with Bonnie Langford.
    • There is a faction of Who fandom who believes that the companion should be little more than eye candy, with minimal personality other than to give the Doctor a foil. The decision by Russell T Davies (and followed by Steven Moffat) to not only make the companion the co-lead but in many cases shift the perspective of episodes to the companion, coupled with the decision to create well-rounded companion characters with ongoing Character Development, has made some fans feel the new series has ruined things forever (ignoring the fact the original series did this quite often, such as with Ace and Sarah Jane). Clara in particular made things worse as the writers chose to break the formula in favor of a 2 1/2-year arc that saw her become - in a few instances literally - the Doctor's Distaff Counterpart.
    • The appointment of Chris Chibnall as new showrunner in January 2016 had some fans proclaiming "ruined forever" (with sentient sex gas being given as the biggest reason why), even though the first Chibnall episode wasn't expected to air until the autumn of 2018. Never mind the insanely popular and beloved detective drama, then…
    • The introduction of gender-changing Time Lords led to some overly enthusiastic demands that the Thirteenth Doctor must now be played by a woman. As a result, there were those saying that Doctor Who was ruined forever by the very notion of either a) the Thirteenth Doctor being played by a woman or b) the Thirteenth Doctor being played by another man. All this taking place in late 2015, when Peter Capaldi wasn't expected to leave the role until at least the end of 2017! So when the Thirteenth Doctor, actress Jodie Whittaker, was announced, naturally enough Ruined Forever! exploded all over the internet. Some particularly upset fans demanded that the show should die and that BBC itself should be boycotted for such an outrageous action. This was a particularly complex one because it was a case of a character, not a show, being accused of being ruined, and it also had the knock-on effect for ruining, for some, groundbreaking female Time Lords previously seen in the show as fans (male and female) realized that those "female" characters could now be just as easily played by male actors...
    • The twelfth season managed to displease fans who objected to the genocide of the Time Lords (again), the Happy Ending Override of the 50th anniversary special, the unwinding of the Master's character development as Missy and the Doctor's new backstory as the genetic basis of Time Lord society rather than a bored student who ran away to see the Universe. Strongly Worded Letters may even have been written to the BBC.
    • The 2023 60th anniversary specials have also received a lot of "ruined FOREVER" backlash in the wake of the Fourteenth and Fifteenth Doctors "bigenerating" in "The Giggle", allowing David Tennant's Fourteenth Doctor to go on living and settle down with a family while the Ncuti Gatwa's Fifteenth Doctor goes off to have adventures. It isn't helped by Russell T Davies stating his theory (which is likely not actually canon) that the bigeneration caused a whole Multiverse of Doctors to respawn somewhere along their own timelines, which would allow older and still-living Doctors to return without having to Hand Wave away why they look older and fatter. This in particular has outraged long-time fans, who feel that it subtracts from the emotional impact of past regenerations, which has until now always been treated as a final "death" of that particular incarnation of the character.
    • To sum up the lessons we've learned here, the very act of making Doctor Who is to in some way ruin it forever and as a whole the show's fanbase is never satisfied with anything.
  • Star Trek has had this following the first series. While the fans have been more willing to accept some changes than other (more rabid) fandoms, it is still prominent. By far, the biggest and most irreparable change was the 2005-2009 shift in creative control; Rick Berman (whom Gene Roddenberry had personally hand-picked to succeed him as the head of the franchise), Brannon Braga, and Manny Coto were all given the boot, Majel Barrett (Gene's wife and the head of MBR Productions) died, a split between CBS and Viacom left a mess of copyright-ownership issues in its wake, and a new team of people who knew nothing about the franchise at best (Alex Kurtzman) and hated it at worst (JJ Abrams) were put in charge of making a reboot. That's a pretty airtight formula for ruining something forever, or at least forever dividing it into two very different epochs:
    • Examples from the Roddenberry-Berman era:
      • The original series was canceled after two seasons. Thanks to a letter-writing campaign, it was un-canceled, but with a greatly reduced budget and most of the original writers having moved on to other projects already. The resulting third season was a disaster, and the show was canceled permanently after that.
      • Star Trek: The Next Generation had "Star Trek is about Kirk, Spock and McCoy. Not these recycled people." The fact that the first season had a low budget and terrible scripts, suffered a high rate of writer turnover, and was run with an iron fist by an increasingly senile Gene Roddenberry, definitely didn't help. Even the second season showed growing pains, mostly thanks to egomaniacal new showrunner Maurice Hurley, who didn't get along with most of the cast, but also was hampered by a writer's strike ending the season early with, of all things, a Clip Show. However, with time, a slowly but steadily increasing budget, the march of visual effects technology, talented actors (most notably Patrick Stewart and Brent Spiner), and Roddenberry's decreasing role in day-to-day production and eventual death, The Next Generation eventually escaped the shadow of the original series in critical and popular acclaim, if not popularity. It is now regarded as one of the best Star Treks, and was also the most commercially successful.
      • On the other hand, there is a small subset of fans who attempt to disregard anything after Roddenberry's death (he died as the fifth season of TNG had just started to air and his illness meant he had not been even tertiarily involved in production for over a year).
      • Star Trek: Deep Space Nine - "What's this about a space station? Star Trek is about strange new worlds!", in addition to accusations it was being used as a test run for BSG (an absolutely untrue claim, as J. Michael Straczynski had come up with the concept in the late 80's and had been shopping it around since at least 1990), and the entire Dominion War arc. Tends to have its own fandom compared to other Trek series. Like Next Gen, it had a rough start in its first two seasons but got pretty good in its third, and is now regarded as one of the best Treks.
      • Alternatively, "DS9 was ruined forever when they introduced the Defiant. The whole point of the show is that they're on a space station, not exploring the other side of the galaxy! That's Voyager's job!"
      • Star Trek: Voyager had its own critics but they tended to point out the series' own flaws rather than outright accusing it of ruining Star Trek forever. But it was accused of ruining the Borg forever through Villain Decay, and of just being bad.
      • Voyager itself was Ruined Forever when Kes left the show and Seven of Nine was brought on board. Or by Paris and Janeway's lizard babies. Or by the time when the ship was threatened by Neelix's bad cheese. Or by Seven being given a bunch of Borg kids to look after. Or by...
      • Star Trek: Enterprise had fans yelling "Ass Pull Ret Cons, it screwed up my fanon..."note  at it more than probably any production in the history of the world. The producers-writers Rick Berman and Brannon Braga insisted that they were trying to adhere to pre-existing canon as much as possible, but occasionally they made some obvious errors, mostly because they were admittedly not fans of (and hadn't even seen all of) The Original Series. Probably the largest gripe was that the Enterprise from the original series was supposed to be the first one ever, so even with a different registry number, Archer's ship should have had a different name. This ignores the fact that even within canon there had been previous spacecraft with that name, meaning that while the ship captained by April, Pike and Kirk was the first Federation Starship to use the name (and the first with the NCC-1701 registry), it was never the first spacecraft of any kind to use it.
      • Enterprise started out as a back-to-basics exploration show, with a heavy 1960s NASA "The Right Stuff" vibe, which was meant to attract and be accessible to people not already familiar with the franchise, and convert them into fans. The show didn't even have "Star Trek" in the title; it was just "Enterprise". After about two seasons, the producers said "fuck that" and decided to do a season-long heavily serialized story arc about transdimensional sphere-builders, alternate timelines, and a planet-destroying Xindi superweapon, which new viewers had a hard time getting into and longtime fans didn't recognize as having anything to do with the rest of Star Trek, thereby ruining Enterprise (which had been renamed Star Trek: Enterprise) forever. Then Season 4 came along and spent nearly all of its time setting up or explaining stuff that happened in the other shows and movies, rather than telling its own stories. Did we really need a two-episode arc just to explain why some Klingons have rubber foreheads and others don't, or dropping an otherwise-forgotten Big Reveal that Orion slave girls aren't slaves at all but secretly running the syndicate with behavior-altering pheremones?
      • The decision in the mid-2000s to (initially) replace the original version of the 1960s series in syndication and a home-video release with a remastered version that saw most of the "cheesy" (but at the time state of the art) special effects replaced with cheesy, already-dated-looking CGI, as well as numerous editorial changes to the episodes themselves, led many fans to shout "ruined forever!", though there was a bit of rejoicing when Paramount did what it said was impossible and included the original versions of the episodes on the Blu-ray releases. Speculation that TNG may get similar treatment in the future was met with preemptive "Ruined forever!" calls, sight unseen; ultimately, however the remastered TNG episodes took a less editorial approach and for the most part stuck to the original templates, rather than creating brand-new effects, try to fix continuity errors, and replace the music soundtracks.
    • The Kurtzman era:
      • The eleventh movie and its sequels are mentioned in the "film" examples list.
      • Star Trek: Discovery carries on the proud tradition. A streaming service-exclusive? Ruined. A Cosmetically-Advanced Prequel? Ruined. Klingons with different forehead bumps and a different design aesthetic? So ruined. It goes even further with the potentially shaky science of the "Spore Drive", which is evidently based on actual research but still seems a huge stretch, while making the lead character Spock's foster sister is further proof of ruination.
      • The conclusion of Season 2 included something of an Author's Saving Throw, explaining in plain terms why Spock never mentions having a foster sister and why the Spore Drive was never used or mentioned in any series set after this time. That said, people who enjoyed the new tone of the first season complained that the second was too much "fan wish fulfillment", and thus the second season ruined Discovery FOREVER. As for the third, abandoning the prequel setting for a distant sequel setting instead again ruined it FOREVER.
      • Star Trek: Picard and Star Trek: Lower Decks have managed to escape this treatment... sort of. No one is saying "Picard and/or Lower Decks ruined Star Trek forever", but there's a lot of "Picard and Lower decks are further proof that Abrams and Kurtzman ruined Star Trek forever".
      • Probably more so than the other series, the two newest, Star Trek Prodigy and Star Trek: Strange New Worlds were met with largely positive reactions (at least from those who watched them). Then Prodigy was cancelled and Strange New Worlds retconned Khan, thus ruining both.
  • Supernatural gets this a lot, as the writers have a tendency to introduce seemingly random and ill-considered plot arcs that require a leap of faith on the audiences' part, setting audience members into tailspins. These are the various decisions and plot twists that have caused various fans to declare the show RUINED FOREVER!
    • Early female audiences tended to hate recurring female characters, arguing that they were cliched and difficult to identify with, or that they took screen time away from with the relationships between male characters, which they identified with as more realistic and better developed, and (this point is key) involved a lot of very attractive men. The deaths of Jo, Bela, and Ruby were attributed by creators to audience reaction. When Jo showed up in Season 2, the fans complained that she was annoying, so Eric Kripke left her in some random bar, and ultimately gave Jo and Bela a tragic send-offs to end claims that a romance would ruin the show. Female characters are still often considered Base Breaking Characters, and the show has a developed a reputation for the fate of its female characters.
    • Season 2: Dean's survivor guilt was portrayed realistically, turning him into a broken little shell of a boy. Given how, in virtually every childhood flashback, John comes across as being abusive towards Dean, and the coping problems that both brothers were having (Dean in particular), the series was exceedingly bleak and angsty.
    • Season 3: If you declared season three ruined FOREVER, it was probably because the plot centered around the effects of Dean's personal Idiot Ball (his deal with the demons) while the second series centered around his father's. If the characters hadn't learned, by the end of season two, how terrible the demon deals were by this point, it felt like the characters were too self-destructive to ever resolve their problems.
    • Season 4: the angel arc is the show's most polarizing element, dividing fans into those who prefer the episodic horror-movie structure of the previous series, and those who prefer an the overarching Myth Arc that the angel storyline provided. Many fans in the first group consider the show to be RUINED FOREVER at this point.
    • Season 5: The angel mythology arc continued and the show became far less episodic, spurring more cries that the show moved too far away from early years of urban myth. Also, the time travel episodes are viewed by some as ridiculous after the show established that you can't change the past through time travel. Cue the claims of Ruined FOREVER!
    • Season 6: Postscript Season issues begin to arise with the departure of the original showrunner and end of the apocalypse arc, resulting in an oddly plotted season arc in which some of the show's most sympathetic and/or likeable characters behave wildly out of character or are implied to be dead. YMMV whether the quality of the stand-alone episodes dropped dramatically, but the size of the show's audience definitely had. As of the Season 6 finale, one of the show's most likeable and sympathetic characters went darkside, and a whole new wave of "RUINED FOREVER" arose.
    • Season 7: The quality of the stand-alone episodes did not improve over season 6, and may have gotten much worse, but the angel/demon storylines were largely replaced by the far less inspiring monsters, the Leviathan. There's not much for fans of the myth arc. And while Sam is more sympathetic than he's been in a long time, it's harder to watch it for the drama between characters because Bobby died, Crowley has been too distracted to mess with the Winchesters and Cas is comatose, insane or MIA. So they've got members of all their fanbases crying "RUINED FOREVER".
    • Season 8: Sam not looking for Dean while he was in Purgatory had people calling Out of Character from day one. The narrative and Word of God tried to push it as Sam maturing, but the fans saw it as a monstrous betrayal of both the characters and the show's message about the importance of family. This resulted in further fracturing of the base, when the show regressed the maturation they’d touted as an excuse in the season finale.
      • This season also introduced Amelia, probably the most hated female character the show has ever had, which is quite an accomplishment given the show's history with female characters.
    • Season 9: From Sam’s possession by the angel Gadreel once again meaning something was wrong with Sam to Dean’s clumsy attempts to lie his way through the season, and Castiel’s much-publicized stint as a human being cut short almost immediately, many factions of the fandom were disgruntled with the story.
      • The decision to pointlessly kill the only non-white reoccurring guest star created a backlash that led to some giving up on the long-running show.
    • Season 10: Demon Dean being used to drink and sing Karaoke did little for fans hoping to see a more complex storyline, and the Villain Decay of Crowley continued throughout the season. Sam was lying to Dean this time and convinced it was for his brother’s sake, and Castiel ended up as a puppet AGAIN.
      • The gratuitous murder of Lipstick Lesbian Charlie Bradbury at the hands of Nazis who leave her body in a shower led to very vocal backlash and even led to showrunner Jeremy Carver being booed during the show's San Diego Comic Con panel.
  • Lost
    • The "introduction" of time travel in season 5, though this plot element had already been introduced two seasons earlier, and there were certainly people who complained about it then, too.
    • The introduction of new characters in seasons 4 and 5.
    • Not to mention how polarizing the finale was.
  • MST3K was accused of this with every single cast change, but especially when Joel left. Both cancellations would pull old Joel fans out of the woodwork to blame the casting of Mike for the show's failure.
    • The funny thing is, in interviews Joel pretty much said that he would have asked Mike to host the show in the first place had he been there from the beginning.
      • It gets crazier - Mike has admitted in the past that he thought Joel was a better host.
      • And crazier still - both hosts have been known to start anonymous fights on message boards saying that the other was better.
    • When Kevin Murphy took over as Tom Servo, one watcher didn't approve of the change and went to the trouble of making a large banner reading "I HATE TOM SERVO'S NEW VOICE" and mailing it to Best Brains. Kevin Murphy kept the banner as a keepsake.
  • The DVD Extras from Red Dwarf include a tale from one of the production staff in which, after the reintroduction of the Time Drive into series seven episode Tikka To Ride, he arrived at a convention and was bluntly told that the new time drive had ruined the show forever.
    • There is some logic to this, in that the drive in this episode seemed capable of taking the characters anywhere in time and space (despite a good joke in the previous season pointing out that it could only do time travel, which was pretty useless in deep space), when the series' whole premise was them being stuck together on a ship with the ostensible long-term goal of getting back to earth.
      • Dimensional anomalies made the cargo bay 300% bigger - it stands to reason the time drive became a time and matter drive. Although Kryten's subsequent "jabbing at it too hard" may have dissuaded the crew from ever using it again.
      • The reintroduction of the Time Drive also negated the moral of the previous episode — they had to destroy the Time Drive in order to not become total gits. Now they suddenly could have their cake and eat it too.
    • Open any lengthy discussion on Red Dwarf — ANY discussion — and you will find several posts complaining about how the show was never the same after Series VII / V / III / I. The humour / sense of adventure / originality died the moment Kryten / Starbug / Kochanski / Kill Crazy was introduced.
  • Kamen Rider:
    • Kamen Rider Hibiki was Ruined FOREVER in the eyes of execs due to the fact it had a female rider on TV, something that is considered "taboo" with Kamen Rider (most females who had to transform had to rely on an "anybody can use a Transformation Trinket" or is a rubber monster). Needless to say, the exec associated the failure of the later season of Hibiki with a female rider being one of them. Kamen Rider Kiva was when the producers felt ready to allow the women to wear a rider belt again.
      • That's weird, considering Kamen Rider Femme was a prominent character in the earlier Kamen Rider Ryuki movie.
      • It's more a fact that while Toshiki Inoue likes to promote more women wearing a Rider belt (Save Agito, 555, Hibiki starting at episode 30 and Kiva), Hibiki was the first true attempt to place a female Rider on TV, something that hasn't been done since Kamen Rider Stronger's sidekick Tackle. Unfortunately, it was done during post 30 (when Executive Meddling sent everything to hell) which had the unfortunate association that Shuki was responsible. Hence none of the series not directed by Inoue had a woman using a Rider belt. A bit of a fear by the executives.
      • It should be noted that said female Hibiki Rider eventually got a much fairer treatment in Kamen Rider Decade until the Rider War begins. She's not alone in that part, though. Which leads us to our next bullet point...
    • Every single thing that happens in Kamen Rider Decade doesn't just ruin itself, it destroys the entire 38-year Kamen Rider franchise. The Alternate Universe versions of the Riders being less than perfect, Yuusuke being the comic relief, the costume designs for Decade and Diend... yup, Kamen Rider is dead. Don't even try to debate it. It's dead. Ironically, Decade's mission is to stop the entire Multiverse from being Ruined FOREVER in the most literal fashion possible...
    • Kamen Rider Dragon Knight got this right off the bat, from people who assumed beforehand that it was going to be a half-assed adaptation of Kamen Rider Ryuki. When the show actually aired, however, this proved not to be the case at all and it gained quite a fan following — especially back in Japan. Executive producer Steven Wang (himself a big Kamen Rider fan) commented directly on this attitude, saying "the original Japanese versions will always be there for them to enjoy and, despite what they believe, no one can ever take that away."
  • The Office (US) inspired this reaction when it was revealed in the final episode of the fifth season that Pam got pregnant. Common lore holds that when a baby is added to the show, it always jumps the shark. So without any sort of proof or indication of actual decline, the fandom leaped to that conclusion. Despite otherwise loving the fifth season. It turns out the baby didn't cause a shark jump, but other factors involving Jim and Pam's marriage would.
    • Also, when Michael (Steve Carell) left near the end of the seventh season, many fans declared THEY WOULDN'T WATCH AT ALL. And every story line including him in the seventh season was accused of trying to make us like him less/foreshadow his death (yeah, what?). While it is generally agreed that the series jumped the shark following Michael's departure, it definitely was not preparing to kill the character, and in fact most attribute the problem with the last two seasons to be that the writers ruined characters like Andy and Dwight trying to turn them into "the new Michael" and that James Spader being added for a season was unnecessary, distracting and didn't make us appreciate Andy's new role any better, as Spader seemed to have walked in from another show all together.
  • Within hours of the notoriously destructive Torchwood episode "Children of Earth, Day Four", fans were already declaring the series Ruined FOREVER and refusing to watch unless Ianto was brought back to life.. Russell T Davies may have hit the fanbase's Berserk Button, which is extreme since Torchwood fandom isn't exactly known for its tranquility.
    • There's a shrine for Ianto in Cardiff Bay.
    • A lot of fans also complain about Children of Earth in general, as they expected cracky fun with a Cast Full of Gay but got "Humans Are Bastards: The Miniseries" with a serious Downer Ending.
    • There was even more outcry when Torchwood aired on Starz and was co-produced by them. Deciding to set Miracle Day in North America certainly didn't soften any blows, nor did cranking the sexual content up to eleven because Starz. Possibly justified as Miracle Day underperformed in the ratings and no further seasons were commissioned.
  • Heroes was declared Ruined FOREVER after the Season 3 finale, which saw Nathan killed and replaced by a Brainwashed Sylar. Notably, this development managed to piss off both fans and haters of Sylar, the former because Sylar's screentime will presumably be reduced now he's Nathan; the latter because they think Sylar's a Creator's Pet and this is just a cheap way to keep him on the show.
    • Many fans place the "ruined forever" watershed (which in this case is synonymous with Jumping the Shark) in Season 2 when the storyline includes Hiro finding himself in the middle of Shogun 2.0 for multiple episodes.
      • Some of this was due in part to the 2007 writers' strike—the show was forced to end its second season early, and when it came back, it just sort of went "nope, that never happened" with several plotlines (Peter's Irish pals; Micah's awesome cousin Monica, etc). It was a very, very weird case of Retcon and many felt the show was never the same.
  • Super Sentai fans pretty much despised the appearance of the Battliser from Power Rangers S.P.D. in the non-canon crossover movie Mahou Sentai Magiranger vs. Dekaranger, some to the point of threatening to boycott the franchise.
  • Meanwhile, Power Rangers was ruined forever when Jason, Trini, and Zack left, when Rita left, when Rita returned, when the suits changed, when the cast changed again, when they adopted the new-season-is-new-show Super Sentai format, when Judd and Jackie left, when it went to Disney, when Bruce Kalish came along, when it went to Nickelodeon, when a new series does have connections to a past series in defiance of the Sentai format, when Hasbro took over, and when any more lighthearted series happened. Note to Power Rangers producers present and future: Whatever you do, don't make it similar to sentai. How uncreative. Also, don't make it different from sentai. Way to horribly bastardize the holy original.
  • iCarly:
    • When "iStart a Fan War" was announced as having major implications for the romantic endgame, the Seddie shippers got whipped up and some of them said they would stop watching the show if they didn't get what they wanted. And the episode turned out to be nothing but an Author Tract saying that the show is about comedy and not romance. There was no Creddie or Seddie at all. The fans in question felt insulted by the episode, and were furious when the Dan Schneider blog was deleting their negative comments. It forced him into a backflip and writing an apology blog.
    • The Seddie arc was expected by the creator Dan Schneider to beat the shows highest rated episode ever (iSaved Your Life with 12.7 million viewers). The first episode got 7 million, not a bad result. However, things went downhill fast. Every episode for the rest of the arc lost viewers, and the final 5th episode in the arc posted the worst ratings in the history of the show. Viewers tuned out in their millions and never came back. Combined with several other issues like less episodes being made and many of the writing staff leaving to join Victorious, it is incredible at how quickly the show declined. It is a clear case of Executive Meddling going wrong. Nick and Dan Schneider overestimated the effect pandering to the Sam/Freddie online fanbase would have in the ratings. As iCarly is Nick's top show, its failure has dragged down sister show Victorious and the network itself, to the point where Nick execs were attacking the ratings provider because they couldn't believe their shows were rating so poorly.
  • Similarly, sister show Victorious has been getting this, most notably from people on the Victorious Wiki who claim that the episodes suck because either Tori comes out on top in the end, and wanting Jade to get things her way even when she does unbelievable things without reprimandation, or Tori getting to sing a new song, you name it. While Dan Schneider takes pride in his fans, especially the ones who enjoy his works, this show proves how unpleasable some of them are. You will always find someone complaining on that Wiki whenever a new episode airs.
    • An example was back in August 2010, when Perez Hilton was announced for Wi-Fi in the Sky, there were people (who might not even be fans of the show) that claimed Nickelodeon was crossing the Moral Event Horizon by allowing him on a children's show. note 
    • Victorious was also in a way responsible for more Ruined Forever on iCarly. Before it started iCarly was shooting dozens of episodes at a time and had just finished its strongest season. Then Victorious came along and took away the energy and time of the writing staff, making iCarly less funny. In addition, limited facilities meant that Victorious had to take over iCarly's studio for months at a time, meaning not as many episodes were done.
  • In Buffy, this trope was brought up by fans of the series every time a major change was made, despite most of them being either necessary or for the better. For example, when another slayer was added, when said slayer died, when another slayer became a recurring character, when Willow began to train as a witch, when the show stopped being about high school, when Angel and Cordelia left the series for their own Spin-Off (which was Ruined FOREVER from the beginning), when Buffy got a human love interest, when Buffy got a little sister, when Buffy's human love interest left, when there was a musical, when a character popular with males and featured in romance with a male character suddenly became gay, and so on and so forth. Worth a special mention is when Oz left the series, to be replaced with a new love interest for Willow, Tara. Fans violently hated the change in Willow and and Tara herself, with innumerable fans declaring the show Ruined FOREVER because of her mere presence. The same fans then proceeded to declare the show Ruined FOREVER when Tara was killed off several seasons later.
    • The Season 8 comics, oh the Season 8 comics.
      • Which actually turned out to be of very high quality. Not to mention the fact that in comic form, Buffy is now in its fourth season and is very much the canonical continuation of the series.
  • Battlestar Galactica (2003) suffered this in three waves. First of all, there were those who immediately declared Battlestar Ruined Forever as soon as it was announced the revival would, in fact, be a Continuity Reboot (the much-reviled female Starbuck ended up becoming a Favorite for many of those who did watch). Later, Ruined Forever hit when the show began verging into more Contemplate Our Navels and Gray-and-Grey Morality territory in the late second and entire third seasons. Finally, the last wave hit with the second half of the fourth season, with dislike of the finale episode retroactively colouring the rest of the series for some.
    • What makes this egregious, however, is that as a result some fans have sworn off ever touching Battlestar or anything written by the same writers ever again. This is part of Caprica's ratings problem - "fans" (the term is used loosely) actually refuse to watch the show, in spite of good reviews, out of a grudge against the previous show's writers (forgetting that the writing staff, while having some of the same writers, also has several new ones).
      • You're overlooking the fact that it's still irrevocably connected with Battlestar. People who were disillusioned by the show's ending are naturally going to be put off by any spin-off, regardless of the quality.
    • ironically, many fans are now decrying about the announced movie because classic series creator Glenn A Larson, is going to be in charge and says he wants it to be more true to the original than the Ron Moore reimagining.
    • And, of course, Battlestar Galactica (1978) suffered from some of the same problems, particularly thanks to Galactica 1980.
      • And not without reason. This has a better claim than the reboot series to Ruined Forever status, because it's (supposedly, though illogically) set in the same continuity.
    • One reason why the reboot generates such hate in some quarters of fans of the original is that it's not just a reboot, not simply a change, it often comes across as a 'rebuttal', for want of a better word, to the original. The writers manage to give a strong, distinct impression in their work that they intensely dislike the source material from the original BG.
      • This seems like an assertion/belief rather than something that was actually evident. At worst, the original series is considered a rather twee 70s show that never caught on like Star Wars managed to.
  • American Idol. Either the bit where Paula left, the bit where they replace her with a comedian, or the upcoming season 10, sans Simon.
    • When Kara was added this popped up almost instantly. Usually mixed with cries of "She doesn't judge fairly! She only cares about teh bishies!" ignoring that she normally didn't comment on how a contestant looked with the exception of Casey in Season 9.
  • Top Gear (UK):
    • When they did a four-way race across London with a car, a bicycle, a boat, and public transport, Jeremy Clarkson accused Richard Hammond of ruining the show forever when he, on a bicycle, arrived first. Clarkson wasn't exactly guiltless, however, for he'd come in second place in the boat. When the Stig arrived third (having taken public transit), they all shifted the blame to James May, dead last in the car. They proceeded to un-ruin Top Gear by claiming the whole film had been faked.
    • The very instant that Jeremy Clarkson was sacked (for punching a producer, no less), a significant and very vocal portion of the fanbase started to proclaim this, and they've been proclaiming it ever since at every opportunity, almost to the point of tedium.
  • Top Gear (US). Fans of the UK version have decried the US version as ruining the whole Top Gear franchise as a whole. The big reason cited was that since the US version would be airing on a for-profit TV channel (vs. UK's home on a quasi-governmental free public TV channel), car reviews would have an unreasonably biased slant in the positive rather than brutal honest reviews to appease the sponsors and advertisers. Imagine Jeremy Clarkson unable to say 99% of the things he says about the cars he drives, including on why he hates the car or says some outrageous analog on how he'd rather have bird flu than own a particular model. One possible work around is to utilize car models not produced by the manufacturers anymore a/or actively supported... which then led to the complaint that the US version was too heavily invested in the "cheap car challenges" which would dominate the entire episode.
  • There has likely never been a finale episode of any long-running, popular series (particularly any with ongoing story arcs) that hasn't been at the receiving end of this trope.
    • It's difficult to find people who object to the end episode of Star Trek: The Next Generation. Those who liked the series seemed to like the ending. In fact, the usual criticism is that All Good Things... is how the higher-budgeted NextGen movie Star Trek: Generations should have been. It may be that this trope applies to series finale episodes that try to "wrap things up" much more than TNG did.
  • Deadliest Warrior announces on the Spike website that they're doing a special one-time 'fantasy' episode with Vampires vs. Zombies. Cue most of the comments on the response page being about how this'll ruin the show, how this'll be the last season of Deadliest Warrior, 'worst idea ever', etc.
    • Retrospect, it did end up being a stupid episode, and it seems a combination of backlash over this episode, already dwindling viewership, and the guy they brought in to replace Geiger being outed as a liar in regards to his military service has resulted in the show being cancelled. They still seem to want to milk it by piggybacking on Chivalry: Medieval Warfare's success.
  • A weird variation occured with Misfits, with about 90% of the hardcore fans deeming the show officially ruined after the first two seasons (despite the third season not even having been filmed yet) following the news that the most popular character (Nathan) is being written out. Fan responses have been absolutely savage, with a good chunk of the fanbase vowing to boycott the show. Even those who remain loyal are in a state of uproar, and hate campaigns have been launched against almost everyone involved - the actor who's leaving, the writer, the producers, Nathan's replacement character 'Rudy' (who hasn't even been cast yet), and even other cast members for trying to defend the series and calm the fans down. While anyone who's taken so much as a glimpse at the show will be baffled as to how they're going to make it work without Nathan, the cries of Ruined FOREVER are still a little premature.
    • NOTE: It has since been announced that Joseph Gilgun will play Rudy; whether this will affect the angry hordes remains to be seen.
    • It has, a little, given that Gilgun's a pretty respected actor. But there is still plenty of Fan Dumb floating around. A sizeable number of fans have deemed Rudy a Replacement Scrappy already, a worrying proportion of them rejecting him on the basis that he isn't as good-looking as Robert Sheehan. However, more troubling still for the fandom at large is the news that Howard Overman (the Series' creator, and sole writer up until now) is having more limited involvement in the show from now on and is only going to be writing four of this season's eight episodes. All in all, it's pretty understandable that the fans are worried.
  • A considerable majority of the fandom of Gilmore Girls seems to agree that the extremely literal Luke, You Are My Father plot in season six, in which Luke discovers he has a daughter named April by a former girlfriend, is the indisputable Jump the Shark moment for the show, particularly because she was more or less a younger version of Rory (precocious, chatty, etc) and most especially because she contributed to the slow, painful, out-of-character demise of the Luke/Lorelai relationship. Coupled with the departure of show creators Amy and Daniel Palladino at the end of the sixth season, the show was never really the same after that.
  • The Tonight Show every time a new host takes over. Steve Allen fans said this when Jack Paar took over. Jack Paar fans said this when Johnny Carson took over. Johnny Carson and David Letterman (who was a guest host at one point) fans said this when Jay Leno took over. Jay Leno fans said this when Conan O'Brien took over. Conan O'Brien fans said this when Jay Leno took over again. And when Jimmy Fallon took over ... well, okay, maybe this time the complainers had a point.
  • Boardwalk Empire had this screamed from the rooftops after the 2nd season finale in which Nucky kills Jimmy.
  • CSI got a TON of this after Grissom's departure. It's resurfacing now to a lesser extent with Catherine leaving, though some do think that bringing in D.B.Russell pulled the show out of its Ray Langston-induced nose dive somewhat. Trouble in the GSR ship post-"Forget Me Not" has some yelling this again
  • This started on Bones within minutes of the end of the 6th season, after the Booth/Bones hookup, and when Brennan's pregnancy was announced.
  • Highlander, after Richie's death.
  • While Gossip Girls Dan & Blair arc gained a group of passionate followers the majority of the fans had this reaction. Fandom has now turned ugly.
  • Some fans of Two and a Half Men claimed eternal ruination when Charlie Sheen's character was removed.
  • At the end of series four of Merlin, King Arthur married Guinevere, thus elevating her to the position of Queen. Because she's now his wife, it's likely (as the writers have vaguely hinted at in a couple of interviews) that she'll have more screen-time in series five, that she'll act as Arthur's confidant, and that (naturally) she'll be sharing a bed with her husband. The show is now deemed irreversibly destroyed by many viewers, who believe that the presence of a woman will impinge on the Sacred Bromance of Arthur and Merlin.
    • Some are now screaming it after Merlin said "there is no room for magic in Camelot".
  • Community is generating this reaction from some fans since creator Dan Harmon was fired as showrunner. The general vibe from the detractors is that "something's missing" and the show is heading into more typical sitcom territory.
    • Although news of Harmon's return has been greeted with celebration, expect some people to claim bringing him back has ruined the show forever. This then proceeded to hit even harder with Donald Glover's departure early into the fifth season.
  • The Wire got this by fans after the second season, which didn't focus on the urban street life as much. The cries quickly stopped after the focus was back on the Baltimore "corners" and the brutal reign of Marlo Stanfield during season three.
  • It is common for any show that gets popular on BBC Two to get moved across to the flagship channel, BBC One. This will invariably be accompanied by an outpouring of RUINED FOREVER! from people moaning that they're bound to change the show to fit in on BBC One, just like what happened to... um... er... yeah, well it'll probably happen THIS time...
  • Depending on who you talk to, House jumped the shark at one of the following: when the original team was fired, when Kutner committed suicide, when House went into rehab, when House finally started with Cuddy, when House broke up with Cuddy, or when House went to jail. (The last one was more a case of the producers failing to anticipate the normal audience reaction to seeing someone crash a car into a room where there were people, and potentially a toddler.) Ironically, the final season was much better received than the previous two.
  • Fans declared Once Upon a Time ruined forever after the revelation that Peter Pan is Rumplestiltskin's father.
    • The introduction of Queen Elsa from Frozen had a similar reaction.
  • Only Fools and Horses:
    • In 1996 the series went out on a high with a perfect ending with the Trotters walking off into the sunset having finally become millionaires after 15 years of ups and downs. OFAH was then RUINED FOREVER! when it was cynically dragged out of retirement five years later for three more episodes, just so the BBC could win a few more Christmas ratings wars.note  The main complaints were that the new episodes were simply less funny with contrived silly plots and lacked the sparkle of earlier episodes. A lot of criticism also centred around Damien (a toddler when last seen, but now an awful Bratty Half-Pint). Worst of all, the Trotters had to lose their fortune so they could go back to being market traders living in a council flat and driving a three-wheeled van, making the events of the classic 1996 episodes All for Nothing.
    • Of course, there are others who think the show never recovered its credibility after the 1992 episode "Miami Twice", in which the two main characters were essentially put into a spoof American gangster movie.
  • The ending to How I Met Your Mother. When most people think of the show they see it as a fun, funny comedy series. A lot of fans get the feeling the writers ignored that and threw nine seasons of writing out the window with the way they put the characters through the wringer and a big Kick the Dog moment on their behalf. Remember the outrage over the ending of Lost? That was a day at the beach next to this with many thinking the doctor should have slapped the stork that delivered the writers.
    • The ending was so despised, that when the final season was released on DVD, it included an alternate ending where Tracy (The Mother) lives and still married to Ted in 2030, and Barney and Robin, while they still divorce, are hinted to get back together.
  • Any time that Game of Thrones diverges from the original books, legions of fans will proclaim the show to be officially Ruined Forever. It can be a change as major as the addition of a Canon Foreigner or killing of a character who is still alive in the books, to something as minor as two characters who don't meet in the books having a brief meeting on the series, or even a character's hair or eye color being different. Still others declare the show "ruined FOREVER" because a character described as beautiful or handsome in the novels is portrayed by someone they don't find attractive.
    • The cries of "ruined FOREVER" are so loud with this show that despite the fact that the central plot line hasn't really deviated at all from the novels (though many B- or C-plots have), there are plenty of fans suggesting that David Bennioff and DB Weiss no longer like or care about the books and are writing their own story with borrowed characters. There are even some who have suggested that "D&D" will start killing characters like Tyrion or Arya just for spite.
    • The fact that with Series 5 and moreso with Series 6 the series has now bypassed where Martin is in the books is likely to result in more calls of "ruined forever" as the series will no doubt kill or promote characters that Martin may well keep alive or in different functions. The fact Martin, as insurance against his death before the end of the series, is known to have fully briefed the showrunners on his plans for the remaining books and the ultimate outcome of the series, makes little difference. Some fans have said they'd rather see the series pause and let the books catch up, even though given the time between books, death of writers or the necessity to use The Other Darrin as actors age or move on to other projects are likely issues in such a scenario.
    • "Season 8 ruined everything and I don't want to watch House of the Dragon for this reason!" was frequently heard before it premiered.
  • Sesame Street:
    • 1990: Jim Henson has died? Rest in Peace, Sesame Street.
    • 1993: They're focusing on the characters living around the corner and introduced Zoe? This isn’t Barney, this is Sesame Street!
    • 1998: They're focusing the most on Elmo by the time Elmo's World was made? This isn’t Blue’s Clues, this is Sesame Street!
    • 2000: Frank Oz quit the Muppets to make movies? SESAME STREET IS ONCE AGAIN RUINED FOREVER!
    • 2002: They changed the format for the first time in 32 years?! OH, NO!
    • 2005: They made Cookie Monster eat something other than cookies? COOKIE MONSTER IS RUINED FOREVER!
    • 2006: They added a fairy Muppet who's even more of a Spotlight-Stealing Squad than Elmo to the cast? This isn’t Disneyland, this is Sesame Street!
    • 2009: They made Murray Monster take over the show like Elmo and removed Miles? RUINED FOREVER!!
    • 2012: They let Kevin Clash go from the show? KEVIN DOESN'T DESERVE TO BE KICKED OUT IN THE FIRST PLACE!!
    • 2013: They changed the episode numbering system to seasonal order rather than chronological and removed Gabi?! DAMN YOU, SESAME WORKSHOP, YOU'VE ONCE AGAIN RUINED SESAME STREET FOREVER!!!!
    • 2016: They're moving the show to HBO from PBS, abridged the length to 30 minutes, and phased out most of the human characters especially Bob, Gordon and Luis? SCREW THIS!
    • 2017: They added Rudy to the cast and made him a Creator's Pet like Elmo and Abby? OH NO! NOT HIM!
    • 2022: HBO Max dropped almost all the pre-2008 Sesame Street episodes?! BLASPHEMY! SCREW YOU ZASLAV!
    • 2023: The magazine format's being dropped entirely?! LLOYD, JIM, CAROLL, BOB, LUIS, MR. HOOPER, AND THE OTHERS MUST BE SPINNING IN THEIR GRAVES!
  • Barney & Friends fans had this reaction twice: first when Dean Wendt took over as the voice of Barney (some fans have claimed that Barney seemingly underwent Flanderization afterwards) and again when Riff was introduced.
  • The Lord of the Rings: The Rings of Power: THERE ARE BLACK PEOPLE AND WOMEN IN MY MEDIEVAL EUROPEAN FANTASY? AND IT'S NOT 100000000000% ACCURATE TO THE BOOKS?!?!!?!?!?!?!?! NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!

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