"Just because you're an angel doesn't mean you have to be a fool."
Good Is Not Dumb
is the trope where a sincerely good, kind, and polite character
is underestimated by others because of their kind nature
Unlike Obfuscating Stupidity
, Good Is Not Dumb
does not involve any deception at all — the subject is genuinely
nice and honest, but the cynicism of others
lead them to misread the character as The Ditz
, a Gentleman Thief
, or some other gullible
or deceptive archetype
. After all, no one really gets through life being kind and trusting to everyone
Almost inevitably, the genuine goodness
of the character will triumph, often accompanied by the comeuppance
of the disbeliever. The Con Man
will be thwarted, the sceptical cynic
will be surprised by The Power Of Trust
, and everyone will discover that "good" is not a synonym for "clueless victim"
A direct inversion of Good Is Dumb
and Dumb Is Good
. Someone who is Good Is Not Dumb
may realize that being nice to villains simply isn't going to cut it, so they may incorporate Good Is Not Soft
. The ultimate stage of this is the Guile Hero
who can play The Chessmaster
's game without falling into the ambiguity or clear villainy of the Magnificent Bastard
Compare and contrast with Wide-Eyed Idealist
, Good Is Not Nice
, Gentleman and a Scholar
, Beware the Nice Ones
, Crouching Moron, Hidden Badass
, Evil Cannot Comprehend Good
, and Good Is Old-Fashioned
. Also see Rousseau Was Right
, Good Is Not Soft
and Incorruptible Pure Pureness
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- Gantz: Masaru Kato. He is about as morally upstanding as they come, but he'll still pre-emptively ambush a guy on the toilet in order to defend himself and head off further violence.
- Karakuridouji Ultimo: Sophia. He's on the Good Doji side, and is the embodiment of Wisdom.
- Liar Game: Nao. Like Corporal Carrot, she started off extremely naive, honest and easily manipulated. As the game continued, however, we see that she is a lot smarter than she appears. She even schemes with Fukunaga and doesn't tell Akiyama and pulled it off, and often uses her innocent nature to trick and trap others.
- Lyrical Nanoha: Although most of the main cast of the franchise falls into either Lawful Good or Neutral Good alignment, they universally adhere to the spirit of it, not the letter. The normally polite and gentle Nanoha, for instance, won't hesitate to blast you out of the sky if it ensures your survival when crap actually hits the fan, and trying to outsmart her in combat... is a very bad idea. Other characters display similar tendencies, perhaps because most of them started off as villains and the rest learned from them.
- In Dragon Ball, Goku showed an unusual level of craftiness, and was shown to be at least reasonably clever. All of it outside of fighting. It seems he was just poorly educated.
- In Dragon Ball Z: His eldest son Gohan is the kind of boy parents would love their daughters to bring home: nice, polite etc. He's also a full fledged Genius Bruiser who gets straight A's and smashes around beings stronger than the Gods themselves!!
- Naruto: Sakura, Kakashi, Shikamaru. Just to name a few examples.
- Rurouni Kenshin: Himura Kenshin.
- Saint Seiya: Crystal Saint, Marin, Albiore, Mu, and Dohko. They were the only Saints outside of the main cast who weren't fooled by the fake Pope.
- Trigun: Vash the Stampede.
- Monster: Dr. Tenma, Nina Fortner, and Dr. Reichwein.
- Taiki Kudou from Digimon Xros Wars who is the smartest goggle-head in the series.
- The titular Master Keaton.
- Fullmetal Alchemist: Ed and Al are child prodigies, and adapt to situations quite well.
- Souten Kouro: Cao Cao is serious about upholding the law, but he's not Lawful Stupid and knows a set-up when he sees it during his tenure as police chief. As he said in exposing the eunuch Jian Shi's plot against him: "I am not the kind of fool that would kill His Highness, who you had caught in your wicked scheme!"
- Lacus Clyne of Mobile Suit Gundam SEED. One of the kindest and most forgiving people you would ever meet, and an Actual Pacifist. Do not mistake any of this for weakness or naivete. As of the end of Destiny, she is the Chairwoman of the PLANT Supreme Council, essentially in charge of one of the global superpowers of the Earth Sphere.
- Many characters in Legend of the Galactic Heroes. Siegfried Kircheis is a particularly striking example.
- Hajime of Gatchaman Crowds is as optimistic as they come. While she does have one or two moments of Obfuscating Stupidity, most of the time she's completely sincere in how she acts, and she proves to be one of the most thoughtful characters of the series.
- Minor character Marlow in Attack on Titan, while in-universe is seen as foolish for wanting to change things, he is definitely not stupid, able to make astute observations that others haven't noticed or chooses to ignore.
- Nightwing may be one of the most genuinely nice and beloved characters in the DCU, a Wide-Eyed Idealist that always tries to see the best in people, but he is not and never will be stupid.
- The original Captain America, Steve Rogers. Super Soldier, tactical genius, inspirational leader, unfailingly polite and incorruptibly idealistic.
- Superman sometimes invokes this trope, often when an Anti-Hero claims that Good Is Old-Fashioned....Except when certain writers depict him as an idiot on the assumption that anyone that powerful must be Dumb Muscle and even then he solves problems with specific applications of that muscle.
- It's implied that The Gentleman from Astro City is one of these. His goodness is never in question — he's unfailingly polite, selfless, and idealistic, even in the midst of battle. On the other hand, his intelligence to date has been largely implied; for example, he's one of the few super-beings who avoided capture during a secret alien invasion.
- Spider-Man certainly has his flaws, he's hot headed, neurotic and can occasionally descend into bouts of self-pity, yet he's still extremely loyal to his loved ones, lives by a very strict Thou Shalt Not Kill code and above all else, he values responsibility. He also happens to be a genius scientist.
- In Zatanna's ongoing series she is confronted by Oscar Hampel, who claims that he was turned into a puppet because of a tragic series of events almost out of his control and that his violent actions were an isolated event. Zatanna accepts that her father, for all his wisdom and power, was only human and might have overreacted by turning Oscar into a puppet. She gives Oscar the benefit of the doubt and agrees to help him become human again...after she runs him through a magic Lie Detector, that is. After all, just because her father was not perfect does not mean he was wrong this time, and she is going to make sure before she takes any actions.
- The dwarven noble protagonist in this Dragon Age fanfiction can is an embodiment of this trope.
- The Reasonable Marines, a fanmade Space Marine Chapter for Warhammer 40,000, will attempt diplomacy first whenever possible, which makes then positively heretical in the shoot-first-ask-questions-never Imperium of Man. The fool that refuses their overtures gets to be on the receiving end of stealth tactics, combined arms and all-around Combat Pragmatism.
- In 3 Slytherin Marauders Arthur Weasley came up with a diversion which made Lucius Malfoy wonder when he'd become so clever.
- In Sight The Visored thought Ichigo was extremely naive when he decides to spare Grimmjow after he escapes Aizen instead of killing him. While Ichigo didn't want to kill Grimmjow in cold blood, he does have another reason. Ichigo is wise enough that Grimmjow wouldn't be swayed into joining their side by appealing to his morality. He tells Grimmjow that he doesn't care what Grimmjow does as long as he stays on the sidelines, doesn't try to return to Aizen or attack Ichigo or any of his friends. Thus depriving Aizen of a potential warrior that knows how to find the Visoreds' secret base and better impressing Grimmjow. It works as Grimmjow decides to help Ichigo with his Hollow powers than return to Aizen or remain on the sidelines.
- Carrot Ironfoundersson greets everyone by name, is perpetually polite and cheerful, and selflessly volunteers to help anyone in need. But anyone who mistakes him for an easy mark quickly learns otherwise.
And that was Carrot at work. He could sound so innocent, so friendly, so... stupid, in a puppy-dog kind of way, and then he became this big block of steel and you walked right into it.
- While Sam Vimes is a textbook example of Good Is Not Nice, his wife Sybil is an example of this trope. She's always unflappably polite and kind-hearted (even to Nobby Nobbs), but beneath her lighthearted exterior is a razor-sharp mind, as demonstrated when she negotiated Ankh-Morpork's fat trade with the Dwarf King in The Fifth Elephant.
- And then there's Nanny Ogg, the Cool Old Lady who's always up for a good drink, a good smoke, and a
good ribald song. Yet she's smart enough to keep Granny Weatherwax in check...
- In Good Omens, the ever-polite angel Aziraphale occasionally gets visits from the representatives of property developers who are very concerned about the possible risk of fire to his bookshop.. He listens to them cheerfully and politely sends them on their way, and they never return...
- In The Hunger Games, Peeta is kind and patient and totally kills at least two people in the arenas, besides being three steps ahead when it comes to manipulating the on-camera narrative.
- The Father Brown series by G. K. Chesterton uses this heavily with its titular character. In his first appearance, the Gentleman Thief Flambeau is shocked that a quiet, unassuming priest can not only outwit him but knows more than him about criminal behaviour. Father Brown points out that of course priests know these things; people confess to them.
- None of the main cast of Codex Alera can be considered dumb, but Tavi in particular stands out. He's constantly derided for being overly idealistic and trying to make peace with nonhuman species who have been at war with Alera for centuries. However, he's a Guile Hero with a talent for Crazy Awesome Batman Gambits and understanding creatures that don't think like humans, so as often as not his idealism actually pays off, much to the surprise (and sometimes annoyance) of his detractors.
- Jim Butcher's other series, The Dresden Files, also uses this trope on the Knights of the Cross, Michael Carpenter in particular. Michael is a Church Militant Knight in Shining Armor and devout Catholic, but he's also a perceptive person. If it looks like he's falling for a plan, it's because he believes it's the only honorable way to get Harry out of the latest mess and/or God will see him through it, never because he hasn't noticed the risk.
- Also because Harry has risked the same for him.
- When Harry receives the shadow of a Fallen Angel, he worries about telling Michael. When he finally does, Michael calmly tells him that he knew. Harry forgot that the Knights job is to help those who have evil within themselves redeem themselves.
- Brother Cadfael from the Ellis Peters mystery novels is a very intelligent man, quite good at medicine, reading people and bringing the most unnoticeable clues together. He is also remarkably kind and compassionate. Hugh Beringar is also a good and honorable person — and a Magnificent Bastard on top of that.
- In Timothy Zahn novels, Luke is written this way. While he may be one of the strongest Jedi, he is also able to outsmart his opponents when necessary.
- Wedge Antilles, in his film and early EU appearances, was just an Ace Pilot, leader of Rogue Squadron, and loyal to his friends and cause. His day in the limelight, the X-Wing Series, showed some promising hints of interpersonal savvy, tactical insight, and further loyalty to principles rather than organization. This is turned Up to Eleven by the time of his Aaron Allston-written appearances in the New Jedi Order and Legacy of the Force. He's adept at Xanatos Speed Chess, an incredibly quick thinker, adept at cutting past what people are saying to what they mean and their underlying goals, and a loving husband and father who is deeply principled and moral. Somehow, people keep underestimating him.
- In The Lord of the Rings, Frodo makes it very clear to Gollum that he is well aware that Gollum is trying to think of a way to betray the hobbits and take back the ring. Sam is surprised at this because he had assumed Frodo was far too good a person to be able to understand deception and treachery. Sam admits that he (and probably Gollum as well) "had confused kindness with blindness."
Live Action TV
- The Doctor on Doctor Who frequently makes use of this to his own advantage. Although his kindness is almost always genuine, it frequently earns the scorn of various despots, tyrants and baddies who assume him to be simple minded or naive.
- Benton Fraser from Due South. Honest, noble, impeccably polite at all times... and a lot more competent and intelligent than he appears. Incredibly reminiscent of Captain Carrot, to the point that you think somebody must have been inspired by somebody else. Apparently not, though.
- Dr. Molly Clock in Scrubs. Her cheery optimism refuses to yield even against the naked cynicism of Dr. Cox and Dr. Kelso, and allows her to triumph against them.
- Trance Gemini of Andromeda.
- Stargate Atlantis: Rodney McKay was quite surprised to find that Col. Sheppard has a Mensa-worthy IQ.
- In "Trash," Saffron assumes Mal is an idiot because he's being kind and compassionate to her. Then she walks headlong into his Batman Gambit when it turns out he expected her sudden but inevitable betrayal, and Inara beat Saffron to the drop point.
- In "Ariel" Simon—to that point seen along with his sister as The Load by the rest of the crew—comes up with a plan to steal medical supplies from a hospital. It's a win-win for the crew; they profit from the medicine (which they can sell on poorly-supplied colonies) while Simon gets access to diagnostic equipment he needs to help his sister. He specifically targets an Alliance military hospital for the crew's raid because he knows it will be resupplied quickly, thus not jeopardizing patient safety. He even breaks his cover to attend to a patient who is in distress and being ignored by the regular staff, and manages to (briefly) win Jayne's respect in the process. That still doesn't stop Jayne from selling him out, however.
- Carly in iCarly sees the best in people, but if betrayed or oppressed, will come up with a scheme like having a massive in-school riot to get the good principal back.
- Occurs several times in Survivor — Natalie in Samoa successfully played Russell's scheming to her own benefit. Also "Fabio" in Nicaragua, who had a "lovable goof" personality but was reasonably game-savvy and combined the two to get the win.
- On Season 2 of The Amazing Race, Tara & Wil and Chris & Alex constantly ragged on Blake for being an idiot, despite this, he made several brilliant strategic moves, including being the first team to beg for money, getting his bags on a flight when all the other teams had to check theirs, and getting preferred parking on a ferry, most of which were decried by the above teams as "cheating".
- Part of Boston Rob getting Uchenna & Joyce and Gretchen & Meredith on a faster flight in Season 7 (when Rob, in order to mess with their heads, mentioned a fictional earlier flight, which just turned out to exist) was him talking about how Uchenna & Joyce couldn't do anything for themselves.
- Eiji Hino from Kamen Rider OOO may seem like a carefree fool, however underneath his simple exterior lies a rather cunning mind.
- Arthur from Merlin may be the poster boy for "Genre Blind is not dumb". Even if he's convinced that Agravaine is innocent, he will investigate nonetheless, and came close to arresting him at least twice. He's also a very competent tactician, as you'd expect from the commander of an elite army, and, in more recent episodes, started valuing Merlin's advice above all others (although he'd never admit it).
- Gwen as well. Compared to the other characters who frequently pass around the Idiot Ball, Gwen shows plenty of intelligence. For example, she spies Morgause talking to Morgana in the city and immediately goes to Gaius about it, as well as trying to figure out what she's up to. And when she becomes Queen and it's revealed that someone in Camelot betrayed them, she immediately puts two and two together remembering she had seen one of her handmaidens leaving the city late the previous night and is able to get the truth out of her almost at once, something Uther never really quite accomplished.
- With Kevin Steed doing his best Dark Helmet impression on the entirety of Ring of Honor while Jimmy Jacobs was on a redemption quest with Steve Corino, this trope coming up was seemingly inevitable. Unfortunately for ROH, Jimmy Jacobs discovered that while good may not be dumb, it wasn't for him. Evil felt better and sometimes, evil really does win!
- The Book of Exalted Deeds supplement for Dungeons & Dragons makes a point of saying, early on, that Good does not equal stupid. A Good character won't leave a village to be eaten by a dragon, but they're perfectly allowed to ask questions about its power, its minions, and where it's living - they aren't obligated to charge in blind.
- Aribeth in Neverwinter Nights is presented as good, nice, kind, politically savvy, capable, perceptive, and not above having a laugh at your expense. All in all a refreshing aversion of the traditional stoic goody-two-shoes paladin.
- Mega Man X, a Neutral Good Reluctant Warrior who lives in an increasingly Crapsack World infested with The Virus, capable of turning even his best friend against him. Often referred to as 'too trusting' in-universe and 'emo' outside of it because he doesn't like killing people. He's also an Sealed Good in a Can Super Prototype One-Man Army with lots of combat experience and what he can't handle his aforementioned best friend will. He also ends up ruling the world, basically because he's the only person that could manage it. There was talk of having him hit the Despair Event Horizon, lose that compassion and become the Big Bad of the sequel series. That would have been bad.
- Garlot of Blaze Union may not be very smart to begin with, but he has a very sensitive nature that allows him to accurately read and understand his rivals and enemies' motivations. As his adventures start to gain him more and more street cred, it's his overwhelmingly gentle and compassionate heart that manages to win the hearts of his entire country—including those very rivals and enemies, more often than not. We get to see in the future just how much Bronquia really appreciates having a leader who's kind, just, and competent.
- Duessel from Fire Emblem: The Sacred Stones.
- Ashara Zavros in Star Wars: The Old Republic is the most blatantly Light Sided companion in the Sith Inquisitor's entourage, but she also possesses a sharp mind and displays a lot of critical thinking towards both Light and Dark Side archetypes. Contrary to what you'd expect from a Jedi (even a Fallen one), her affection for you is only affected by strategic acts of kindness (ones that improve other's lives in long term), but not by being merely nice and compassionate to everyone. If you don't actively corrupt her to The Dark Side, she eventually arrives at her own philosophy of the Force (not unlike Darth Revan's) that combines the best aspects of both Sides of the Force and is guided by reason.
- Almost all of the good guys in The Order of the Stick fall under this trope, with the exception of Elan - who has his moments with his extreme Genre Savvy. Paladins even state outright (several times) that they're "Good, not dumb." Miko is an inversion; she is pretty smart, but her warped view of the world leads her to make increasingly bad judgement calls.
- Arthur in Arthur, King of Time and Space. His enemies often assume that because he's nice, unassuming, and prepared to give the benefit of the doubt if possible, he can't be dangerous. Many of them are dead now, and the remaining ones still haven't learnt.
- Girl Genius: Everyone thinks that just because Gilgamesh Wulfenbach never built a Death Ray and tries to be civilized and fair, they can push him around and act like he's nothing. When he's finally pushed over the edge, he shows the entire world that yes, he does know how to build a Death Ray, and yes, he's perfectly capable of kicking the crap out of Europa to protect his father and not-girlfriend.
- When he does flip out and brings this up, he scares some very hard to scare people, while delivering an incredible beatdown to the oversized war criminal sent to retrieve him. And at the end:
Well, you know what
? I can do
crazy. I really can
. And it looks like I'm going to have
to. Agatha is in danger. This whole town
is in danger. If I'm going to be able to help her at all
, I'm going to have to give up all this "being reasonable"
garbage and show you idiots
what kind of madboy you're really dealing with!
[Smashes Vole apparently through a wall, Beat
, sudden wide eyes] ...oh. Oh, no.
This must be how my father feels
- all the time!
- Gil's probably just as much of a case of 'nice is not harmless,' though. You could even make a case for filing him under 'Good Is Not Nice,' especially lately, despite being an Overlord Jr.. The...three-year day...since the above incident has not been easy on him.
- In a world as grey as AJCO most characters tend to sneer at the more idealistic members of their society such as Egg and Kaja. However, Kaja is a high-level angel with centuries of experience under her belt and while Egg isn't the most perceptive character on the server, she is a very close second to Telepher and the Auditor. And they have as much as thirty years of practice on her!
- In the Justice League episode "Flash and Substance," Orion asks why Central City would honor a buffoon like the Flash, "who makes bad jokes, who concerns with pitiful men like the Trickster." But the Flash is anything but dumb—he's able to handle the Trickster without throwing a single punch. In fact, he actually convinces the Trickster to happily turn himself in to the police.
- Young Justice:
- Kid Flash (Wally West) is no twit either, he may act like an immature and quirky teen, but he's a real expert in physics, biology, and geology.
- We also see that while Robin is usually snarky and fairly goofy, he can be a Batman style ruthless tactician. He doesn't like it very much, though.
- M'gann M'orzz AKA Miss Martian, kind, caring, loving, unrepentant mind-raper.
- Impulse also counts, he's a happy go lucky motor mouth,who built his own time machine to go back to the past, to stop his Bad Future form happening.
- Ned Flanders from The Simpsons, at least in the early seasons. He's smart enough to outsmart Homer, though that's not saying much.
- In the Kung Fu Panda Legends Of Awesomeness episode, "Bosom Enemies," Po bends over backwards trying to let Taotie redeem himself, only to have him throw it away at being called an "assistant," and attack the panda and his friends. However, Taotie seems to have turned again and helps Po stop his machine and for a second it seems that Po has forgiven him. However, it turns out that even Po is not that naive and this treacherous villain is next shown in Chorh-Gom Prison.
- Optimus Primal, quite possibly the intellectual equal of Magnificent Bastard Megatron, and more than once able to let the bad guys play right into his hands. Also a great guy in general, and a friend to all the Maximals under his command. Would rather not have to fight, but is very good at it.
- Ben Tennyson was this during Ben 10: Alien Force and some episodes of Ultimate Alien. In Ben 10: Omniverse, on the other hand...
- Studies show that more trusting people are often more capable of telling when others are lying. For more information, see the analysis page.
- Another study showed that those more concern with justice tend to think more logically.