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22nd Jun '16 7:09:50 PM GregPagano
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A direct inversion of GoodIsDumb and DumbIsGood. Someone who is GoodIsNotDumb may realize that being nice to villains simply isn't going to cut it, so they may incorporate GoodIsNotSoft. The ultimate stage of this is the GuileHero who can play TheChessmaster's game without falling into the ambiguity or clear villainy of the MagnificentBastard.

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A direct inversion of GoodIsDumb GoodIsDumb, GoodIsNotNice, and DumbIsGood. Someone who is GoodIsNotDumb may realize that being nice to villains simply isn't going to cut it, so they may incorporate GoodIsNotSoft. The ultimate stage of this is the GuileHero who can play TheChessmaster's game without falling into the ambiguity or clear villainy of the MagnificentBastard.
19th Jun '16 2:22:12 PM nombretomado
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* In TimothyZahn [[TheThrawnTrilogy novels]], Luke is written this way. While he may be one of the strongest Jedi, he is also able to outsmart his opponents when necessary.

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* In TimothyZahn [[TheThrawnTrilogy Creator/TimothyZahn [[Literature/TheThrawnTrilogy novels]], Luke is written this way. While he may be one of the strongest Jedi, he is also able to outsmart his opponents when necessary.
4th Mar '16 11:42:32 PM nombretomado
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* The original CaptainAmerica, Steve Rogers. SuperSoldier, tactical genius, [[HopeBringer inspirational leader]], unfailingly polite and incorruptibly idealistic.

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* The original CaptainAmerica, ComicBook/CaptainAmerica, Steve Rogers. SuperSoldier, tactical genius, [[HopeBringer inspirational leader]], unfailingly polite and incorruptibly idealistic.



* While the most obvious example from the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse is [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Captain America]], the best example is Agent Coulson of S.H.I.E.L.D., who's always quiet and polite even when he's [[Film/TheAvengers2012 pointing a BFG at an Asgardian demigod.]]

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* While the most obvious example from the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse is [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Captain America]], Film/{{Captain America|TheFirstAvenger}}, the best example is Agent Coulson of S.H.I.E.L.D., who's always quiet and polite even when he's [[Film/TheAvengers2012 pointing a BFG at an Asgardian demigod.]]
25th Feb '16 11:24:08 AM StFan
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* While the most obvious example from the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse is [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Captain America]], the best example is [[PhilCoulson Agent Coulson]] of SHIELD, who's always quiet and polite even when he's [[Film/TheAvengers2012 pointing a BFG at an Asgardian demigod.]]

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* While the most obvious example from the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse is [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Captain America]], the best example is [[PhilCoulson Agent Coulson]] Coulson of SHIELD, S.H.I.E.L.D., who's always quiet and polite even when he's [[Film/TheAvengers2012 pointing a BFG at an Asgardian demigod.]]
20th Feb '16 12:38:34 PM nombretomado
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* While the most obvious example from the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse is [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Captain America]], the best example is [[PhilCoulson Agent Coulson]] of SHIELD, who's always quiet and polite even when he's [[Film/TheAvengers pointing a BFG at an Asgardian demigod.]]

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* While the most obvious example from the Franchise/MarvelCinematicUniverse is [[Film/CaptainAmericaTheFirstAvenger Captain America]], the best example is [[PhilCoulson Agent Coulson]] of SHIELD, who's always quiet and polite even when he's [[Film/TheAvengers [[Film/TheAvengers2012 pointing a BFG at an Asgardian demigod.]]
19th Jan '16 10:22:12 AM nombretomado
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* Wedge Antilles, in his [[StarWars film]] and early [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse EU]] appearances, was just an AcePilot, leader of Rogue Squadron, and loyal to his friends and cause. His [[ADayInTheLimelight day in the limelight]], the Literature/XWingSeries, showed some promising hints of interpersonal savvy, tactical insight, and further loyalty to principles rather than organization. This is turned UpToEleven by the time of his AaronAllston-written appearances in the ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' and ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce''. He's adept at XanatosSpeedChess, an incredibly quick thinker, adept at cutting past what people are saying to what they ''mean'' and their underlying goals, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and a loving husband and father who is deeply principled and moral]]. Somehow, people keep [[UnderestimatingBadassery underestimating him]].

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* Wedge Antilles, in his [[StarWars film]] and early [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse EU]] appearances, was just an AcePilot, leader of Rogue Squadron, and loyal to his friends and cause. His [[ADayInTheLimelight day in the limelight]], the Literature/XWingSeries, showed some promising hints of interpersonal savvy, tactical insight, and further loyalty to principles rather than organization. This is turned UpToEleven by the time of his AaronAllston-written Creator/AaronAllston-written appearances in the ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' and ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce''. He's adept at XanatosSpeedChess, an incredibly quick thinker, adept at cutting past what people are saying to what they ''mean'' and their underlying goals, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and a loving husband and father who is deeply principled and moral]]. Somehow, people keep [[UnderestimatingBadassery underestimating him]].
6th Jan '16 10:59:07 PM Doug86
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* {{Superman}} sometimes invokes this trope, often when an AntiHero claims that GoodIsOldFashioned....Except when [[FrankMiller certain writers]] depict him as an idiot on the assumption that anyone that powerful ''must'' be DumbMuscle and even then he solves problems with specific applications of that muscle.

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* {{Superman}} sometimes invokes this trope, often when an AntiHero claims that GoodIsOldFashioned....Except when [[FrankMiller [[Creator/FrankMiller certain writers]] depict him as an idiot on the assumption that anyone that powerful ''must'' be DumbMuscle and even then he solves problems with specific applications of that muscle.
5th Jan '16 12:49:49 AM Nintendoman01
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** Goku showed an unusual level of craftiness, and was shown to be at least reasonably clever. All of it ''outside'' of fighting. It seems he was just poorly educated.

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** Zigzagged with Goku; while he ''is'' BookDumb and prone to falling for the simplest tricks, Goku showed an unusual level of craftiness, is ''anything'' but stupid. Many enemies have fallen before him because they underestimated his intelligence and was shown craftiness in battle. His battle instincts and ability to be at least reasonably clever. All learn quickly often catches even his friends off-guard. He also often give life advice and words of it ''outside'' of fighting. It seems he was just poorly educated.wisdom to his friends and sons.
20th Dec '15 2:53:12 PM ecuvulle6267
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* ''Film/TheHungerGames'': Peeta is kind, patient, and three steps ahead when it comes to manipulating the on-camera narrative.
12th Dec '15 5:26:42 PM nombretomado
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* Wedge Antilles, in his [[StarWars film]] and early [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse EU]] appearances, was just an AcePilot, leader of Rogue Squadron, and loyal to his friends and cause. His [[ADayInTheLimelight day in the limelight]], the XWingSeries, showed some promising hints of interpersonal savvy, tactical insight, and further loyalty to principles rather than organization. This is turned UpToEleven by the time of his AaronAllston-written appearances in the ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' and ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce''. He's adept at XanatosSpeedChess, an incredibly quick thinker, adept at cutting past what people are saying to what they ''mean'' and their underlying goals, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and a loving husband and father who is deeply principled and moral]]. Somehow, people keep [[UnderestimatingBadassery underestimating him]].

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* Wedge Antilles, in his [[StarWars film]] and early [[Franchise/StarWarsExpandedUniverse EU]] appearances, was just an AcePilot, leader of Rogue Squadron, and loyal to his friends and cause. His [[ADayInTheLimelight day in the limelight]], the XWingSeries, Literature/XWingSeries, showed some promising hints of interpersonal savvy, tactical insight, and further loyalty to principles rather than organization. This is turned UpToEleven by the time of his AaronAllston-written appearances in the ''Literature/NewJediOrder'' and ''Literature/LegacyOfTheForce''. He's adept at XanatosSpeedChess, an incredibly quick thinker, adept at cutting past what people are saying to what they ''mean'' and their underlying goals, [[ArsonMurderAndJaywalking and a loving husband and father who is deeply principled and moral]]. Somehow, people keep [[UnderestimatingBadassery underestimating him]].
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