Discussion Main / YuriGenre

Your points are valid, but Yuri is indeed enjoyed by a lot of straight girls. You don't need to be attracted to someone in a romance to root for it.

To summarise briefly, without getting too involved in the rights and wrongs for reasons of Internet Backdraft:

It has been decided of late that this site has too many Japanese terms floating around, including for concepts which are not Japan-specific, and that this is creates an intolerable burden upon users who aren't fans of Japanese media, since they're unlikely to understand these terms at first glance. The "compromise" (inverted commas because some don't see it as such, despite it being described that way by the admins) put forward is this: all anime/manga terms are allowed to remain, but must either become redirects for tropes with English names (e.g. Pink Bishōjo Ghetto, now called Improbably Female Cast), fanspeak terms for separate trope pages (e.g. Kuudere, the trope now being Sugar-and-Ice Personality) or Japan-only tropes (e.g. this one, with non-Japan examples now going... well, okay, I'm not entirely sure where), with a few - still contested - exceptions where the term is so well-used and/or has no convenient English equivalent despite being a universal trope (e.g. Tsundere). Many of the Japan-only tropes have now also been given custom titles including English nouns ("genre" is a common one for tropes such as this) to clarify some of their meaning for users not familiar with them.

In short, then: yes, as things stand, this is a Japan-only trope. Whether it should remain so or not is less an issue for this specific trope and more an ongoing point of wider contention across the site.

But we had a perfectly good english title for this trope when it was named Girls' Love.

And if the Yuri trope page is going to be limited to Japanese only examples, then the Yaoi page needs to be restricted as well.

Girls' Love to me rather defeats the point of having an English title, given that in this case it's really an Ingrish title, which is fairly non-intuitive to English-speakers who aren't familiar with the term already ("Does it mean that girls can love but boys can't? Is it a particularly feminine form of love? What? It's about lesbians? Seriously?"), who are probably more used to using the term "yuri" anyway. Indeed, the irony is that whilst Girls' Love is comprised of English words and "yuri" is a Japanese word, the former is the term used in Japanese whilst the latter is the term used in English. So yeah. Clarification

All that said, I wouldn't be averse to this trope being renamed Girls' Love, since if it's going to be restricted to Japanese examples then that is the native term, and thus the one I would consider more correct.

I definitely agree with regards to Yaoi; furthermore, the two really ought to be named the same way (that trope is currently names, perplexingly enough, Boys' Love Genre, with Yaoi as a redirect). I'd rather them both not be strictly limited to Japanese examples, to be honest, but current site policy seems to be trending in the opposite direction. At any rate, I'd be happy with them just being consistent.

nThere has to be a place for all non-Japanese examples. Which there are.

The thing is, yeah, Japanese is a bit too prevalent, but they're used so much so as to be common place. Yandere could easily be something like Crazy For Love, Seppuku is essentially Samurai Suicide, Pettanko...well, to be honest, IMO it's hardly ever a noteworthy trope that isn't covered by A-Cup Angst. But you get the point. They're used because they're so common to Japanese things so as to be more easily associated with that name. Yuri Genre is widely used because of how prevalent it is in Japanese works, but that doesn't mean it should only apply to those.

...Plus I've hardly seen the whole "Japanese names for Japanese works" thing on any other page.

Of this is Japan only there where are non Japanese Lesbian romances found? Every Lesbian Trope seems to be specific to something.

Queer Romance.

As someone new here, what where those non Japanese examples that where removed?

"Not a stuffy encyclopedic wiki" indeed. Apparently people looking for western lesbian romance need to sift through all the male/male works in Queer Romance, now? Yay. This change is preposterous; I see no reason why Japanese terms can't include clear examples of those things in western works if those tropes are still in western media. If the mods are going to be weirdly anal about this, I suggest we change Yuri Genre to Lesbian Romance, change Yaoi Genre to Gay Romance, and just get rid of the Queer Romance trope.

Sono Hanabira Ni Kuchizuke wo. (Please don't make a page for it — that was cut under the Content Policy.)

I didn't intend to, I was just curious where it came from. Thanks!

The mods want to keep this entry Japanese media-only, but live-action Japanese TV shows/films about lesbian relationships are likely OK (but I don't know any). I would say that animesque/mangaesque non-Japanese works (e.g. Cross Heart) should be listed, too, but the mods have wiped such examples before.

The movie I mentioned above I intend to order and watch soon as I can. I'm still unsure exactly what else besides being about Lesbians is required for being Yuri.

It must come from Japan and have a lesbian relationship at the core of the plot. Preferably, it should fall into one of the classic yuri setups outlined in the article intro. :D

I've been looking but I can't really find anything but that one. It's weird, you'd think there would be more.

Yeah, probably a cultural thing. Drawn lesbians are OK, live-action ones are still too risky. ^^

I've watched Love my Life, and if it's Yuri it's of the Josie variety, which is generally the last type people think of.

It was a pretty neat movie though, happier ending then most Schoolgirl Lesbian live action films.

Well, feel free to add it to the article, then.