Should we make an index page for Star Wars Shout Outs? Since the series is Reference Overdosed, it might be worthwhile to extract those sections from the various individual pages. Clone Wars already has one.
Alright, so I have no idea if this has been suggested already, but have we thought about giving the various film series of this franchise their own pages? For example, we could have a page dedicated to the Original Trilogy, the prequels, the sequels, and the anthology movies. Given that the Rian Johnson Trilogy was literally just announced, I suppose that one can wait, but I do think there is merit to the idea of giving the other series their own subpages. After all, each of the three main trilogies follows a particular multi-film narrative, each has a distinct style, they all follow different characters (for the most part), and each has had a unique reception from critics and audiences.
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You could also just use Recap.Star Wars if you want. Regardless, it doesn't belong here, it's just creating an insane Wall of Text at this point.
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I agree. In a main Franchise page, the more concise the better. You have to give the film pages something to talk about after all.
Shouldn't Star Wars: The Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels be listed in the description here as well? They're both still considered canon.
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Can an ending be both a Bittersweet Ending and a Downer Ending? All the movie endings that aren't unambiguously happy seem to have been listed as both.
Okay guys. I don't know how long it's been like this, but the main film pages should not begin with the entire text of its opening crawl. It's indefensibly ludicrous. On small screens it means that you can't read the text of the actual page without scrolling down
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I know the opening crawl is classic, but we don't need this. There are plenty of other classic Star Wars references throughout the whole wiki. I'm going to delete them soon unless someone comes up with a really good reason why they should be kept.
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Because it's Star Wars.
That's the reason. Bring them back.
If a tree falls in the forest and nobody remembers it, who else will you have ice cream with?
I agree with Karxrida. Also, why is some white space or scrolling such a big deal?
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Thirding Karxida. They have been there for a long time, and so what if a mobile user has to scroll a little, or someone sees some white space? Besides, it provides an easy reference to the opening crawl of each film. Put them back.
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The opening crawls should stay. The text of each one isn't even that long and they're a quintessential part of the franchise.
The opening crawls should be restored immediately.
Okay, so I created Sandbox.A New Hope.
On that page, if you click the "A long time ago in a galaxy far, far away..." then the title and opening crawl sequences appears.
That keeps the iconic crawl, but doesn't inconvenience mobile users (or people with large screens) along with making the Star Wars pages have the same style as every other page on the wiki.
What do you guys think?
I still don't see what your big problem is with the crawls' effect on the pages. None of the issues seem like a real inconvenience. And it's Star Wars, those movies deserve unique style privileges.
I think the opening crawls should be restored.
Becky: Who are you? The Mysterious Stranger: An angel. Huck: What's your name? The Mysterious Stranger: Satan.
Would there be enough examples to warrant making a whole page for Canon Immigrant? It'd make it easier to keep track of overlap between the continuities.
Should the bit in the description about Darth Vader being Luke's father be spoilered? I know it's the most well-known twist in the history of cinema, but still...
Uh-oh. Something went wrong on my end and the article looks really weird now. Can anyone fix my screwup?
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Star Wars is a Fountain of Memes. Should it have its own memes page?
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We can certainly make it when we know more about it.
That was the amazing part. Things just keep going.
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I pulled the Generational Saga entry below, because I don't think it fits. This isn't a story about an immigrant family assimilating into society. It's about how the sons/daughters redeem the sins of their parents. Also, Leia was referring to her adoptive mother in VI, not Padmé.
- Generational Saga: In Revenge Of The Sith, Amidala states that this is how liberty dies, with thunderous applause. In A New Hope her daughter, Princess Leia, is acting as a spy for the Alliance to Restore the Republic (commonly known as the Rebel Alliance, and, informally, as the Rebellion) and in Return Of The Jedi Leia tells Luke that she remembers her mother being very beautiful and kind but sad.
"Often it follows the pattern" of an immigrant family assimilating into society. It sounds to me as if it's about how the younger generation, as an adult, has to bridge the generation gap.
It wasn't Amidala's sins but her generation's sins that Leia was fighting. Leia was refering to her real mother because Luke wanted to know about the mother that they shared.
At the time, Leia doesn't know that her adoptive mother was not her real one. It's also impossible for Leia to have memories of Padmé given that she died in childbirth. This is a straightforward epic, there is no reference to generations except that Luke and Leia are Vader's children.
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"
I removed an incomprehensible and probably inaccurate example:
- Tenchi Solution: how George explains Jedi attitudes toward monogamy.
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Notes on cleaned entries:
- Anti-Villain: Vader does not fit this trope. In Episode 1, Anakin is a straight hero. In 2 and part of 3, he's an Anti-Hero. In the end of 3 and all the way through 4-6, he is a straight villain. Even Evil Has Loved Ones does not make you an Anti-Villain. The end of 6 is Love Redeems.
- Hollywood Healing: A whole lot of natter.
- Multi-Stage Battle: The sub-bullets were not needed; the basic description is enough. And the "type X" crap needs to die.
- Unperson: This is not for talking about the people involved with making the film. It's an In-Universe trope.
Well, looks like this article is going to need to.be updated soon as Disney purchased the rights to Star Wars and they intend on making a 7th movie.
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Leia as a Disney Princess. Considerably more 'shoot in the face' than most of them have had in the past...
The Fastest Man Alive
There is a thread here
about reorganizing these pages. Join the discussion, if you have something to say.
Is Anakin's midichlorian count Up To Eleven or Over Nine Thousand?
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Over Nine Thousand. The main title (Readings Are Off the Scale) is even stated word-for-word (or nearly) in the movie.
I created a High Octane Nightmare Fuel section. There's only a few examples yet, but the Nightmare Fuel page isn't very long either. I'm inclined to think most of the scary moments in the Star Wars series were on some level deliberate, and I would think even the current Nightmare Fuel examples might be better served being shifted to High Octane Nightmare Fuel.
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66.213.85.3, stop adding irrelevant crap and shoehorning in tropes that don't belong.
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nevermind, I see there box in the Unfortunate Implications page. Seriously though dude you don't have to yell
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Looks like a chunk of the text has been deleted. What's going on here?
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It looks like we got a wikipedia copy-paste vandal, someone just eliminated a large chunk of text and replaced it with stuff from the other wiki's Deadliest Warrior page. They did it in chunks, so it was somewhat hard to locate the original text but I think I put it back in its proper order.
Is there a reason why the Spoilers Off warning is commented out, not in the usual top of page format?
Editors will see spoilers anyway, so their main purpose it to warn readers.
If there's no particular reason behind this, any concerns if we move it to the standard top of page format, e.g. -
Examples for the Skywalker Saga are Spoilers Off on this page due to the sheer volume of spoilers.