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They can\\\'t have looked over the translations too closely, because they never got around to recording the romantic version of Adam and Shiro\\\'s conversation since it became good evidence of how Shiro and Adam\\\'s relationship was censored and Shiro wasn\\\'t going to be anything more than AmbiguouslyGay untilfor most of the show\\\'s run.

\\\"Aishiteru\\\" \\\'\\\'has\\\'\\\' been used for familial relationships plenty of times before. Between Naruto and his mother for example, and obviously they\\\'re not saying that she\\\'s in love with him. It\\\'s real love, just not necessarily the romantic kind. I\\\'ve put the question about \\\"I love you\\\" in other languages to people who did speak them but were not involved in VLD shipping in order to get a non-biased viewpoint and they explained to me that it can be used for nonromantic contexts too.

\\\"Daisuki\\\" is another word that can both be used between friends, but depending on the context can actually be \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' romantic, because it\\\'s used in the sense of a boyfriend and girlfriend whose relationship may not have reached the intense levels that \\\"aishiteru\\\" demands.

The only undeniably romantic word in Japanese is \\\"koishiteru\\\", which is explicitly about romantic love, although the intensity can vary. And note that Keith does not use \\\"koishiteru\\\" with Shiro. If and only if he had used that word instead, then there would be no question of it.

If you all you want to say is that Keith and Shiro have a lot of HoYay then I don\\\'t care, I wouldn\\\'t even disagree. A lot of HoYay is not necessarily intentional, even the ones that people aren\\\'t deliberately looking for. Just don\\\'t go around claiming it\\\'s more deliberate on the part of the showrunners (who have already shown themselves to be somewhat out of touch and not aware of the implications of their work) than it actually is, because that\\\'s where a line is being crossed.

I really don\\\'t think they left Shiro single because they wanted to imply he was ambiguously in a relationship with Keith like the EpilepticTrees suggested he would, but just because they meant it when they said they didn\\\'t want to fill the show with unnecessary romance outside of the one Lance/Allura/Lotor triangle, which unlike Korra had the grace not to be an actual triangle. Likewise they just decided not to give Keith a romance for whatever reason, or figured that he\\\'s already got other stuff (his quest to become the Black Paladin and find out more about his past, his TheNotLoveInterest friendship with Shiro) taking up his time, so throwing a proper romance into the mix with all that would\\\'ve been too much.

You\\\'re getting way too worked up and reading too much into the show and Shiro\\\'s originally planned outcome that isn\\\'t really there. I implore you to calm down, because it\\\'s making your posts difficult to read and parse.

\\\"Aishiteru\\\" \\\'\\\'has\\\'\\\' been used for familial relationships plenty of times before. Between Naruto and his mother for example, and obviously they\\\'re not saying that she\\\'s in love with him. It\\\'s real love, just not necessarily the romantic kind. I\\\'ve put the question about \\\"I love you\\\" in other languages to people who did speak them but were not involved in VLD shipping in order to get a non-biased viewpoint and they explained to me that it can be used for nonromantic contexts too.

\\\"Daisuki\\\" is another word that can both be used between friends, but depending on the context can actually be \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' romantic, because it\\\'s used in the sense of a boyfriend and girlfriend whose relationship may not have reached the intense levels that \\\"aishiteru\\\" demands.

The only undeniably romantic word in Japanese is \\\"koishiteru\\\", which is explicitly about romantic love, although the intensity can vary. And note that Keith does not use \\\"koishiteru\\\" with Shiro. If and only if he had used that word instead, then there would be no question of it.

If you all you want to say is that Keith and Shiro have a lot of HoYay then I don\\\'t care, I wouldn\\\'t even disagree. A lot of HoYay is not necessarily intentional, even the ones that people aren\\\'t deliberately looking for. Just don\\\'t go around claiming it\\\'s more deliberate on the part of the showrunners (who have already shown themselves to be somewhat out of touch and not aware of the implications of their work) than it actually is, because that\\\'s where a line is being crossed.

I really don\\\'t think they left Shiro single because they wanted to imply he was ambiguously in a relationship with Keith like the EpilepticTrees suggested he would, but just because they meant it when they said they didn\\\'t want to fill the show with unnecessary romance outside of the one Lance/Allura/Lotor triangle, which unlike Korra had the grace not to be an actual triangle. Likewise they just decided not to give Keith a romance for whatever reason, or figured that he\\\'s already got other stuff (his quest to become the Black Paladin and find out more about his past, his TheNotLoveInterest friendship with Shiro) taking up his time, so throwing a proper romance into the mix with all that would\\\'ve been too much.

Except \\\"aishiteru\\\" \\\'\\\'has\\\'\\\' been used for familial relationships plenty of times before. Between Naruto and his mother for example, and obviously they\\\'re not saying that she\\\'s in love with him. It\\\'s real love, just not necessarily the romantic kind. I\\\'ve put the question about \\\"I love you\\\" in other languages to people who did speak them but were not involved in VLD shipping in order to get a non-biased viewpoint and they explained to me that it can be used for nonromantic contexts too.

\\\"Daisuki\\\" is another word that can both be used between friends, but depending on the context can actually be \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' romantic, because it\\\'s used in the sense of a boyfriend and girlfriend whose relationship may not have reached the intense levels that \\\"aishiteru\\\" demands.

The only undeniably romantic word in Japanese is \\\"koishiteru\\\", which is explicitly about romantic love, although the intensity can vary. And note that Keith does not use \\\"koishiteru\\\" with Shiro. If and only if he had used that word instead, then there would be no question of it.

You\\\'re getting way too worked up and reading too much into the show and Shiro\\\'s originally planned outcome that isn\\\'t really there. I implore you to calm down, because it\\\'s making your posts difficult to read and parse.

I really don\\\'t think they left Shiro single because they wanted to imply he was ambiguously in a relationship with Keith like the EpilepticTrees suggested he would, but just because they meant it when they said they didn\\\'t want to fill the show with unnecessary romance outside of the one Lance/Allura/Lotor triangle, which unlike Korra had the grace not to be an actual triangle. Likewise they just decided not to give Keith a romance for whatever reason, or figured that he\\\'s already got a TheNotLoveInterest brotherly relationship taking up his time, so throwing a proper romance in with that would be too much.

If you all you want to say is that Keith and Shiro have a lot of HoYay then I don\\\'t care, I wouldn\\\'t even disagree. A lot of HoYay is not necessarily intentional, even the ones that people aren\\\'t deliberately looking for. Just don\\\'t go around claiming it\\\'s more deliberate on the part of the showrunners (who have already shown themselves to be somewhat out of touch and not aware of the implications of their work) than it actually is, because that\\\'s where a line is being crossed.

Except \\\"aishiteru\\\" \\\'\\\'has\\\'\\\' been used for familial relationships plenty of times before. Between Naruto and his mother for example, and obviously they\\\'re not saying that she\\\'s in love with him. It\\\'s real love, just not necessarily the romantic kind. I\\\'ve put the question about \\\"I love you\\\" in other languages to people who did speak them but were not involved in VLD shipping in order to get a non-biased viewpoint and they explained to me that it can be used for nonromantic contexts too.

\\\"Daisuki\\\" is another word that can both be used between friends, but depending on the context can actually be \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' romantic, because it\\\'s used in the sense of a boyfriend and girlfriend whose relationship may not have reached the intense levels that \\\"aishiteru\\\" demands.

The only undeniably romantic word in Japanese is \\\"koishiteru\\\", which is explicitly about romantic love, although the intensity can vary. And note that Keith does not use \\\"koishiteru\\\" with Shiro. If and only if he had used that word instead, then there would be no question of it.

You\\\'re getting way too worked up and reading too much into the show and Shiro\\\'s originally planned outcome that isn\\\'t really there. I implore you to calm down, because it\\\'s making your posts difficult to read and parse.

I really don\\\'t think they left Shiro single because they wanted to imply he was ambiguously in a relationship with Keith like the EpilepticTrees suggested he would, but just because they meant it when they said they didn\\\'t want to fill the show with unnecessary romance outside of the one Lance/Allura/Lotor triangle, which unlike Korra had the grace not to be an actual triangle. Likewise they just decided not to give Keith a romance for whatever reason, or figured that he\\\'s already got a TheNotLoveInterest brotherly relationship taking up his time, so throwing a proper romance in with that would be too much. If you want to read Keith and Shiro as HoYay then I don\\\'t care, but just don\\\'t go around claiming it\\\'s more deliberate on the part of the showrunners (who have already shown themselves to be somewhat out of touch and not aware of the implications of their work) than it actually is.

Except \\\"aishiteru\\\" \\\'\\\'has\\\'\\\' been used for familial relationships plenty of times before. Between Naruto and his mother for example, and obviously they\\\'re not saying that she\\\'s in love with him. It\\\'s real love, just not necessarily the romantic kind. I\\\'ve put the question about \\\"I love you\\\" in other languages to people who did speak them but were not involved in VLD shipping in order to get a non-biased viewpoint and they explained to me that it can be used for nonromantic contexts too. \\\"Daisuki\\\" is another word that can both be used between friends, but depending on the context can actually be \\\'\\\'more\\\'\\\' romantic, because it\\\'s used in the sense of a boyfriend and girlfriend whose relationship may not have reached the intense levels that \\\"aishiteru\\\" demands. The only romantic word in Japanese is \\\"koishiteru\\\", which is explicitly about romantic love, although the intensity can vary. And note that Keith does not use \\\"koishiteru\\\" with Shiro. If and only if he had used that word instead, then there would be no question of it.

You\\\'re getting way too worked up and reading too much into the show and Shiro\\\'s originally planned outcome that isn\\\'t really there. I implore you to calm down, because it\\\'s making your posts difficult to read and parse.

I really don\\\'t think they left Shiro single because they wanted to imply he was ambiguously in a relationship with Keith like the EpilepticTrees suggested he would, but just because they meant it when they said they didn\\\'t want to fill the show with unnecessary romance outside of the one Lance/Allura/Lotor triangle, which unlike Korra had the grace not to be an actual triangle. Likewise they just decided not to give Keith a romance for whatever reason, or figured that he\\\'s already got a TheNotLoveInterest brotherly relationship taking up his time, so throwing a proper romance in with that would be too much.