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openPair the Spares misuse?
Shipping.My Little Pony Friendship Is Magic mentions Pair the Spares examples for fan pairings. But since Pair the Spares isn't a YMMV trope, does it need to happen in the actual work to count?
Speaking of MLP, it was recently (without discussion or approval) used as the page image for Pair the Spares, despite one of the pairings only being Ship Tease and the Spares having no tease, much less relation. Before taking this to Image Pickin' I want to confirm if it requires they be paired in work because the image works if not.
I also asked Is this an example?
openZero effort TLP being recreated
gabrielwild435 keeps creating poor-quality TLP proposals but has no other wiki activity. Could we possibly have a mod try to point them to some resources for new tropers? They don't seem to understand what the TLP is for.
- Latest draft: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/discussion.php?id=8a8nnwhyhr3vflh14y0nosmz
- Discarded Drafts:
openIs this good?
I started a Playing With page for Twerp Sweating and was wondering if anything is off with it. Here it is: https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/PlayingWith/TwerpSweating
If anything's wrong with it, please let me know.
openThe Presidents
Permission to rename UsefulNotes.The Presidents to UsefulNotes.The Presidents Of The United States?
EDIT: I think there was a thread regarding this issue, though I forgot what it was. As I read that thread, and being non-American, I would say that renaming UsefulNotes.The Presidents to UsefulNotes.The Presidents Of The United States would make it sound easier and less on-confusing to non-Americans.
Edited by alnair20aug93openAce Attorney's Complete Monsters. Videogame
According to https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Roger_Retinz and https://villains.fandom.com/wiki/Bansai_Ichiyanagi (aka Blaise Debeste) these two are Pure Evil, which is the Complete Monster equivalent on that site, why aren't they listed as such on TV Tropes?
openAversions for YMMV tropes
If we're not supposed to list aversions for YMMV tropes, then should the "Breaking Out of the Ghetto" section on Girl-Show Ghetto be there?
Edited by nw09openShould links to trivia as part of a trope explanation be removed?
There are pages that treat the [[invoked]] tag like a magic word to prevent YMMV and trivia from displaying their icons in the examples list. I assume YMMV things can be safely deleted, but what about trivia that appears as part of the entry? There was another ATT somewhere that said inline potholes were permitted and those icons would be removed. Is that still the case?
YMMV example:
* MoodWhiplash: [[invoked]] Donut's [[CrouchingMoronHiddenBadass surprisingly]] [[SugarWiki/MomentOfAwesome awesome]] CurbStompBattle of [[spoiler:[[KillerRobot Dos.0]]]] [[SugarWiki/FunnyMoments is promptly ruined when]] his attempt at a PreMortemOneLiner [[spoiler:in Spanish]] falls into MyHovercraftIsFullOfEels.
Trivia example:
* ArcWords: [[invoked]] "You just have to try." "What do you fight for?" And of course, the old classic: "You ever wonder why we're here?" - This time courtesy of Caboose, who forgets the second half of the line. [[WordOfGod In many ways, these two mean about the same thing.]]
openPetTheDog removal Film
I removed Pet the Dog from Red Zone Cuba on the grounds that a Complete Monster can't Pet the Dog, after asking in the Complete Monster discussion forum. Awesomekid 42 then added it back with the edit reason: "A CM can Pet The Dog. It just means in the present, those moments of sympathy are invalidated. A character can start with redeeming qualities before losing them and becoming a CM (such as Dio when he used to care for his mother)"
I wanted to take this here to get a consensus on whether to keep or delete the example to avoid starting an Edit War. Does anybody want o weigh in?
openReporting a troper
lugia1 is deleting a whole bunch of commented-out ZCEs with no edit reasons (see A Boy and His X and Abhorrent Admirer). They have also made some grammar and capitalization mistakes, as seen on Abandon Ship and the subpages of Get A Hold Of Yourself Man (which I fixed). Requesting a revert on the removal of commented-out examples; they're left like that so people can add context, and deleting them is rather rude.
Edited by rjd1922openTroper with multiple formatting issues
Gregory 15 has changed the image on multiple pages without starting an IP thread. They also uncommented a bunch of ZC Es.
- Latest Examples:
I sent a notifier for image changes previously (about a week or 2 ago).
openReporting a User
How does one go about reporting a user here? The troper Astro Fantastical keeps reverting edits on the YMMV page for Survivor Fan Characters simply because of negative audience reactions to his characters.
openFan works misplaced?
RealityEnsues.Pokemon includes the unofficial content of a fan site and ROM Hack VideoGame.Pokemon Reborn (I assume there's nothing in the namespace to denote it's a fan work. Is it mis-namespace?). Should it be limited to the official works (should Pokémon Detective Pikachu examples be moved there as well?) and the fan work go under their Reality Ensues pages
openClean up Page
Could I get permission to fix up the Shadowchasers Series pages? A Conspiracy has been completed and the Characters page is missing entries for the Shadowchasers themselves, including Jalal.
open Edit war?
Tropers/bobg edit warring in the Disney Robin Hood character page. I have originally deleted his example because the character says the opposite of what the entry Card-Carrying Villain says (he DENIES having a "heart of stone". In fact after saying that quote he says "BUT traitors have to die" or something like that)
Edit: Never mind, he deleted the example now
Edited by annette12openPossible ROCEJ Violation
On Trivia.Chuggaaconroy, there's an example under Missing Episode involving a video featuring ProJared being removed due to a scandal involving him that started a few months ago that was originally read this:
- One of his Pikmin 3 Mission Mode episodes was removed as of May 2019, as the episode in question had Pro Jared as his guest. This was because said guest star was in deep trouble for...controversial reasons involving Jared cheating on his wife.
However, machop changed it to this:
- One of his Pikmin 3 Mission Mode episodes was removed as of May 2019, as the episode in question had Pro Jared as his guest. This was because said guest star was then-currently being accused by people who might've thought Jared was harassing certain groups. Fortunately, those claims were proven as false as of September 2019 by Jared himself. The video is still currently missing, however.
However, people are debating whether ProJared was really telling the truth or not, and I fear this could lead to an edit war. I think this example should be rewritten to be more neutral and should warn about ROCEJ like this:
- A Pikmin 3 Mission Mode episode featuring Pro Jared as a guest was removed as of May 2019, following allegations of Jared cheating on his wife. And we'll leave it at that.
openEditor with indentation issues
I've sent GravityGraedon two notifiers about Example Indentation in Trope Lists, and they appear to have had no effect; they're even un-correcting indentation to involve a single second-level bullet (see AwesomeMusic.The Raccoons for multiple examples).
openA question on Homoerotic Subtext / Ho Yay
I suppose this question applies to both Homoerotic Subtext or Ho Yay: Does it count as an example if one person involved in the example is canonically homosexual (especially non-closeted), while the other person does not have known (or subtextual) sexual orientation?
Is there a way to change the capitalization of a letter in the URL of an existing page?