Superman & Lois page cut Live Action TV

Why was Superman & Lois cut as a TV Tropes page? The reasons stated were "no trailer nor release date" but it literally has both - the show premieres February 23rd and here's a trailer:

https://youtu.be/-OUSrZVxIrw

The Othersiders Live Action TV

Series.The Other Siders was created just today—and yet I can already tell that every single entry is a Zero-Context Example.

Power Rangers Dino Fury YMMV Live Action TV

I've been pretty active on the Dino Fury pages because of the hype for the new season, but I noticed this morning that the new YMMV page was misspelled as Ymmv and it pissed me off. Is there any way to fix this?

Network Finale cut? Live Action TV

So I just launched the new Network Finale trope yesterday and today I see that the page has been cut, but whoever did it didn't leave a reason or even cut the Laconic page for it. I have nothing there but a message telling me to ask about it on this forum. I also can't see the history for it. What's going on and can I recreate it?

EDIT: Found that it had been kicked back to the TLP and read the post about Rogue Launching.

Power Rangers Dino Fury Live Action TV

So I noticed that the Trope page and everything for it was removed (which is odd since every other Sentai/Ranger series got theirs kept before their series launched). Well, the series came out today, so can we get it put back?

Power Rangers Dino Fury Page Live Action TV

I noticed that the page for Dino Fury was deleted because "Per Creating A Work Page For An Upcoming Work, this TV series needs a release scheduling to trope, and this series doesn't have one." Since the series just premiered today, will it be okay to recreate the page and give it the proper work in the next few days?

Middle initial Live Action TV

How does Stephen J. Cannell get his middle initial with period? I looked at the page source and maybe I missed it, but I don't see anything to indicate it.

Mandalorian Memes Live Action TV

Some of these Memes.The Mandalorian entries have two bullet points each in the page source, yet display with single indentation. What messed up the coding?

• Mando doing sidequests.^Explanation Jokes about Din being Railroaded into doing "sidequests" (or favors) in order to get the information he needs have been made.
  • Mando making new friends every episode (or at least in Season 2).^Explanation The show's frequent use of guest-of-the-week, especially notable in Season 2, where most of the episodes have Mando becoming Fire-Forged Friends with at least one new character.
  • "I can help you, but first I need something from you."^Explanation Season 2 can essentially be summed as a constant Fetch Quest, as Mando is constantly doing favors for other characters in exchange for something, only to then meet someone else who wants a favor from him in exchange for another thing, and so on. Most egregious when he finally did find a Jedi, Ahsoka, only for her to turn him away and point him to Tython instead.
  • Din Cry Laughing after being told to go to another planet.^Explanation The summer after Pedro Pascal finished filming The Mandalorian Season 2, he landed two roles in the Zoom-based "play" I, My Ruination, which starred Paul Giamatti as A Streetcar Named Desire director Elia Kazan; one scene has Streetcar writer Tennessee Williams (Pascal) experience an alcohol-induced mood swing, prompting a concerned Elia to exclaim, "Hey!" multiple times, before asking, "What's going on?" After "The Jedi", some Star Wars fans posted the clip with captions referring to it as Din's thoughts after learning he'd have to travel somewhere else to finish his mission.
• The Mandalorian on Omegle by Tiktoker cosplayer tokenasianfriend.
  • "Okay, just... just give me one second. I'll be right back."^Explanation ”The Mandalorian" meeting a stranger who doesn't like Star Wars or The Mandalorian, prompting Mando to awkwardly excuse himself before somehow appearing in the stranger's house to beat him up.
  • "Okay Mando, show me your cock or the kid dies!" "Aw, fu—" Chapter 14: The Tragedy^Explanation A Boba cosplayer (or more accurately, someone wearing a Boba mask) having a Nerf gun put up to a doll of the Child, demanding to the Mandalorian on the other line to show his... penis or else he'll kill the kid. Going with the common joke about not wanting to be Mistaken for Gay, it's joked that Mando being forced to show his wang to another guy is just as tragic if he showed his face to a living being.
  • "You're the guy from Fortnite!"^Explanation One of the Omegle people in the same video joking that he recognizes the Mandalorian as a Fortnite character due to him having recently become a sponsored character in the game at the time of the video.

Bunch of zero content "The movie" pages Live Action TV

This Mr Thermoman Preacher guy is on a spree of no content entries for the Super Sentai series. He has made like a dozen "The movie" pages for the old Sentai shows, which usually have 2 tropes and a bare bones description. Someone needs to tell him to knock it off already.

The Mandalorian edit war Live Action TV

I was told by a mod to try for help here. On The Mandalorian, Overfiend moved 24-Hour Armor twice. I had moved it back as this seemed to be in the wrong place per the order on the pages. They then moved it back. Everybody in the discussion agrees that the first place was correct, while regardless they've violated the rule against edit warring. So can I have this moved back by a mod?

Help adding tropes to The Crew Live Action TV

So there's a new Netflix series co-produced by them and NASCAR called The Crew that was released today. It deals with control of a struggling NASCAR team being given to the owner's daughter, who tries to modernize and improve it. I just watched the first episode and its pretty funny and looks promising. I'd like help adding tropes to the page I made please. Thanks!

Character pages that should be cut? Live Action TV

Don't want to Cut List what shouldn't be cut... but shouldn't Real Life pages on Characters get cut such as:

• Characters.Kitchen Nightmares
• Characters.The Only Way Is Essex
• Characters.Survivor

as an example, since real people don't get troped AFAIK (with exceptions for creator namespace maybe)?

Wrong way to do a recap page? Live Action TV

Recap.Only Fools And Horses doesn't seem like it's going the way a recap page should with the way the recaps are all on the same page for tropes; isn't this against wiki rules/conventions?

Weird shippy entries Live Action TV

I'm a bit concerned about Julia 1984's troping of Drake & Josh. Most of it is fine, but there's some select posts that really seem to suggest Shipping Goggles between the two lead characters...who are stepbrothers on a children's show.

They added an entry to Flirty Stepsiblings about them (and I presume they also added the video example), which comes across as cherrypicking a few moments of comedic Homoerotic Subtext, some of which isn't even that (i.e. twisting their friendship breakup or their platonic Operation: Jealousy to sound romantic). I discussed this in video examples and it was inconclusive whether Flirty Stepsiblings includes unintentional subtext (the description suggests that it does but this seems like you have to squint to really see the dynamic).

On its own that'd be enough, but they also included the Flirty Stepsiblings bit on their entry for the show on Opposites Attract (which does not require a romantic relationship).

I already asked about this on the "Is this an example?" thread and one person said it was probably Shipping Goggles, and I agree, but I wanted to get more opinions and also keep an eye out in case this person edits more things from a weirdly-shippy perspective. They seem like a generally decent editor otherwise though.

WandaVision RealityEnsues Live Action TV

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/article_history.php?article=Series.WandaVision

https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=Series.WandaVision

The troper Alphatater deleted the entire Reality Ensues section for Series.Wanda Vision, writing see Discussion for the edit reason and then posted there reason in the discussion on top of the discussion. Now first of all, I am not sure if that is kosher to do it that way, but I am going to give them the benefit of the doubt and assume they thought if anyone disagreed, the discussion was already set up.

Secondly, I know Reality Ensues can be shoed in and I suspect that they are right but their reasoning doesn't sit well with me: "They describe fantastical situations that have never and can never happen in "reality.""

The reason I am bringing this here is, I am still shaky about how to describe the way Reality Ensues works. It has nothing to do with whether or not the situation is fantastical, right?

ArchEnemy a villain-exclusive Trope? Live Action TV

Troper Duncril 01 has been removing a few entries of the Arch-Enemy trope from certain pages like here, here and here citing (quote) "Leave the arch enemy trope to the villains"

Is that an accurate reason to remove it from Protagonist pages?

Speculative Troping Cleanup thread? Live Action TV

Speculative Troping is running amok on all the WandaVision pages. In particular claiming certain things about a character whom we've only seen a few minutes so far, but that's hardly the only speculation people keep trying to add.

Do we have a clean up thread for instances of Speculative Troping, would such a thing be worth making?

Troper claims work is "NSFW". Live Action TV

So I was searching up for Ultraseven X. And it claims that this show is "NSFW" due to being a Darker and Edgier reboot of Ultraseven. The show may be dark and aim for adults but it does not contain gore or explicit sex. Is it just me or this troper over exaggerating? Edit: Also this show is TV-14 not TV-MA.

Laconic edit war Live Action TV

On December 6th, Randomeditor 6969 added the following to Laconic.The Mandalorian

The given edit reason was, quote, "It's true.", unquote. Note that the page already had a more accurate laconic description; this was added below it. It's also worth noting for those unfamiliar with the show that this is a blatant joke, deliberately reframing the show's dramatic Space Western plot as a comedic slice of life, and is outright incorrect in one instance (the protagonist was never a Space Pirate, he was a Bounty Hunter).

On December 8th, snivyTsutarja deleted it on the basis that only one description was allowed per laconic page. On December 14th, Randomeditor replaced the original laconic with their jokey "true" version, without an edit reason. On December 19th, snivy reverted it, also without an edit reason. Today, Random undid snivy's revert.

No Title Live Action TV

Can you please make a Chinese drama series called Count Your Lucky Stars because we need for add the bathtub video clip in one scene

Legacies - Character revert Live Action TV

On the character page for Rafael had the example

• Chick Magnet: He catches the eye of both Josie and Lizzie when he first appears at the school. It's hinted Hope harbors an attraction to him also.

Hope's addition to the example was deleted by troper AnonymousBitchFromHell without reason. To a new version

• Chick Magnet: He catches the eye of both Josie and Lizzie when he first appears at the school.

I believe the original version still counts as their seemed to an attraction, AnonymousBitchFromHell even added shiptease between them as an example. I sent them two messages indicating my wish to add the original version back and check if they want to discuss it with no response.

Should I wait for input from them or go ahead for the revert.

Power Rangers Dino Fury Live Action TV

We just got the release date for episodes 1 and 2. Can someone please restore the page?

Is it wrong to called Transgender People as "Transexual"? Live Action TV

I was on Dead of Summer trivia page where there's one example that make me want to scratch my head because someone named Lakingsif who called a transgender character as "transsexual" (Although it isn't the first time they made a questionable edit). I heard that we shouldn't called transgender people as transsexual by some people. So if it's not allowed to called people like that, should I edit it? Here's the example that I was talking about:

• Queer Character, Queer Actor: Mark Indelicato playing Blair, both being gay, and less with bisexual Zelda Williams playing transsexual Drew.

Bad grammar and possible Natter in character page. Live Action TV

So I was in The Killer Bride because I was planning on adding some new examples and I go to character page to check some examples. And it just happen that I see that there are some problems with capitalization and some examples that what I assume is Natter. This page was made by one person named nameusernamenamehere. Should I notified them and is there a grammar cleanup forum?

Requesting assistance with cleaning up the Series/BigBrother pages Live Action TV

So... I'm not sure this is the place to bring this up (I don't use forums much if ever), but I've been meaning to for a while now...

I edit for the show Survivor a lot, and someone brought up the point that you aren't really supposed to bring real life into reality tv shows.

This is a bit of an issue where Big Brother is concerned. I am mainly referring to the U.S versions, as they are the bulk of what's discussed.

On top of that, a lot of the entries are what people call... bad. Many entries are blatantly written during the season, with tense not being updated in the slightest, and a wholeeeeeee lotta entries are just wrong, particularly audience reactions.

I'd fix this myself but

1) I do not watch or even have the capability of watching Big Brother, and am restricted to what the wiki + internet will tell me (which is not all that much) + what is blatantly wrong (which is a lot).

2) New stuff keeps getting added and I can't keep up.

3) Some of the stuff that sounds too ridiculous and/or conspiratorial to be factually accurate is actually correct. For example, these:

Creator's Pet: Frankie of 16. They even delayed a challenge for a couple of hours to save him from elimination.

Broken Base: Is Big Brother 21 a good season? Due to the unique combination of having one of the worst pre-jury sessions in the history of the show, along with a great jury phase where nearly every pre-jury villain got what was coming to them week after week, only to end with the season's unofficial heroes getting evicted just before the finale for the season's Manipulative Bastard to win, and then promptly get called out on his racist behavior... yeah, Big Brother 21 is polarizing, to say the least.

To give an idea of some of the issues happening here, I'm gonna post some images.

• Just blatant misuse here, though I do wonder where it goes (Julie Chen is the show's host)^{Click if you need to see the transcript} Big "OMG!": A few days before Double Eviction night, CBS Chairman Les Moonves - Julie Chen's husband - was fired in the wake of several accusations of sexual harassment against him. At the conclusion of DE night, Julie signed off using her married surname for the first time in the show's history. Within the hour, Twitter exploded.

• This is somehow an Adorkable entry^{Click if you need to see the transcript} Raven is very lovable and dorky and she's also the type to get easily excited over things. She shows to be enthusiastic and perky come every eviction vote with Julie. Raven was also the one who wanted temporary tattoos after the "Inked & Evicted" challenge ended. Her showmance partner Matt chose a temptation where he was made to dress as a ballerina. Raven is a dance teacher, so, naturally, after the challenge ends, he gave his tutu for her to wear for fun. However, her adorable personality is later on tainted and viewed in a more negative light as she reveals that underneath her cutesy persona, there lies a very nasty and violent personality. She's not as cute when she's bullying people or exploding in anger at others. The fact that she constantly embellishes stuff about her real life does not make her the least bit endearing.

• Under Critical Dissonance^{Click if you need to see the transcript} Season 20. Fans love it because it's gotten back to unpredictable gameplay, but there's a lot of ego in the house this season and controversial behavior both on the televised episodes and especially on the live feeds.

• Under Never Live It Down^{Click if you need to see the transcript} Averted - Jade Goody would have never lived down the bullying of Shilpa Shetty in Celebrity Big Brother or her stints on the previous Big Brothers if she were still alive. Which is, in hindsight... very saddening. Goody's vile behavior was punished on the most extreme level- her body withered and developed terminal cervical cancer. She spent one month married to fellow houseguest Jack Tweed. And what makes this so eerie is that Goody developed this cancer when she appeared on the Indian version of Big Brother, Bigg Boss... after she previously harassed an Indian actress... two days into the playing.....almost as though she fell victim to a spiteful Indian curse coming onto that show.

• Deleted this example of The Scrappy already, but it's a worth posting as an example because it has pretty much everything you shouldn't do.^{Click if you need to see the transcript} Swaggy C is hated for being an arrogant douche 90% of the time, and showmancing Bayleigh 10% of the time. As soon as that guy opened his mouth he quickly became one of the most disliked African American contestants in a VERY long time. Though like Rachel he did get some woobie points after revealing his backstory where his mom left him at three years old, and his dad died when he was in high school. He even got a Take That, Scrappy! from Julie Chen who showed him his intro video showing he didn't want to be seen as the jerky, smug, alliance leader. He's also a sore loser given that he refuses to talk to Tyler the one who orchestrated his backdoor on the outside.

And thennnnn there's the Character pages, which consist of pretty much everything the viewers want them to.

I seriously have no idea what goes into character pages normally, but I'm pretty sure it ain't any of this.

• (Also contains speculation and assumptions)^{Click if you need to see the transcript} Too Dumb to Live: Why did Derrick choose to become aligned so close with Cody? Because Cody's too stupid to think Derrick could possibly be a threat. He's thought of pretty much no major moves by himself. To wit: Cody won an early Head of Household. He used it to target Brittany, who had no intention of getting him out. He never stopped to question whether or not she'd actually target him. Joined in on voting out a lot of people who would have taken him further in the game like Christine and Nicole. Not once stopped to think that Derrick had never faced the block until the final 50 minutes of the game, missing the obvious red flag of that and how he was just following Derrick's word. When confronted with the chance to bring Victoria, who would have gotten him a guaranteed win, to the finals, he chose to take Derrick. Guess who won?

• The What an Idiot! page for this show is somehow nicer than the character page.^{Click if you need to see the transcript} Idiot Hero: Cody comes across as one of the dumber and less intelligent houseguests of the season. He has proven time and time again that he is not smart in terms of strategy and he strongly depends on Derrick in the strategic department. Cody won the Final HOH of the season, which meant that he was able to choose or decide who he wanted to take to the Final 2 with him. His options were either the biggest threat and most dangerous player in the game yet his closest ally and friend (Derrick) or the most useless, terrible player in the game who is considered to be the ultimate floater who got dragged to the end but whom Cody doesn't personally like (Victoria). Who does Cody ultimately end up choosing to take to the Final 2 with him? That's right. DERRICK. Cody actually took Derrick, the most dangerous player in the entire game, to the Final 2, somewhat feeling confident that he could beat him, instead of actually taking Victoria, the ultimate goat, someone whom he 100% knows he could have beaten. When it came time for the jury to ask the two of them questions, Cody was both shocked and surprised to hear how the jury really viewed him, which was basically as Derrick's loyal lapdog or puppy. It was at that point that Cody realized that he made a half a million dollar mistake and realized that he had no shot at beating Derrick. Cody ended up losing to Derrick in a near unanimous 7-2 jury vote. Cody, did anyone tell you that Big Brother isn't about loyalty when you get to the Final 3 and even more, the Final 2? You're in a game to win $500,000! What. an. idiot.

• ^{Click if you need to see the transcript} Bait the Dog: Frankie appeared as though he would be a likeable, upbeat and happy gay houseguest. Turns out that he is really extremely narcissistic, hateful, vile, attention seeking, and self absorbed. Shouldn't we have all remembered Andy from last season?

• ^{Click if you need to see the transcript} Jerkass: Mixed with Bait the Dog - it starts off as a nice and well-mannered house, but once Paul enters the fray, all hell breaks loose. It also rivals BB 15's rotten apple cast. Big Brother 15 gave us bigot city, Big Brother 19 gives us Spoiled Brat city mixed with Crazytown. All the thoroughly nice people except for Kevin (and arguably Mark) are gobbled up before the game reaches the halfway point. So many of them are gonna have to go into hiding post-season and freeze out their detractors on social media. If your name isn't Cameron, Megan (Public service announcement: please don't harass the PTSD sufferer, or you're scum), Jillian, Dominique, Ramses, or Kevin, you gunna get it!

• Good lord this is long...^{Click if you need to see the transcript} The Bully: Many of the houseguests used intimidation tactics and bullying to further their games. But this had more to do with having a group or mob mentality more than anything else. Houseguests such as Paul, Alex, Christmas, Josh, Cody, Jessica, and Raven had no problem partaking in the bullying of other houseguests which caused a lot of animosity and tension to rise in the house. Paul was the centrepiece of pretty much all of the bullying in the house as he was the one who was encouraging and inciting it for the most part. His targets were primarily Cody and Jessica, but he would also use other houseguests such as Josh to also bully them as well. Cody and Jessica bullied people such as Christmas, Alex, Paul, and Josh at various points in the game. Cody verbally attacked and physically threatened Paul after he had nominated him in Week 5. Cody also bullied Josh in Week 6 that he was going to physically beat up Josh outside of the house and make his life a living Hell. Jessica also did her fair share of bullying when she humiliated Josh in front of everyone after not voting to keep Jillian by calling him a crybaby victim. Josh ended up crying hysterically afterwards and the other houseguests had to comfort him. Jessica also personally attacked Josh numerous times by fat shaming him (calling him fat ass, widdle-waddle, fat f-ck, etc) and insulting his intelligence by calling him a moron and the dumbest person she's ever met. This also resulted in Josh crying and the houseguests having to comfort and support him. Christmas also did her fair share of bullying but most of it was towards Cody and Josh. She attacked Cody by calling him a disgraceful marine and questioning has military service. And Christmas would also act as a Big Sister Bully to Josh whenever he ended up doing something that she didn't like or approve of. Alex bullied people like Jessica, Cody, Elena and Kevin unnecessarily. She constantly bashed them behind their back and antagonized them by starting fights and conflicts with them. Josh also frequently resorted to using intimidation and bullying towards other houseguests such as Cody, Mark, Elena, Kevin, Jessica. He has personally attacked all of them, insulted them and has resorted to banging pots and pans in their faces in order to torment them all while singing a circus tune. Raven also got into the mob mentality of bullying when she yelled and attacked Jessica by calling her endless derogatory names and consistently cursing at her and Cody during the house fight that took place in Week 5. At some point, everyone has come across as a bully and this is definitely a season where bullying took centre stage in the game. The last recent season to showcase bullying to this strength was Big Brother 15.