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openBroken Base Waiting Period? Film
On the YMMV page for Film/Solo I considered adding a Base-Breaking Character point for the droid character L3-37. I checked in the discussion section and I was told by another troper that there's a 6 month waiting period to add a Broken Base or Base-Breaking Character point (as seen here https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/remarks.php?trope=YMMV.Solo ). I'm double-checking if this is true, because I find that strange. Is there really a waiting period before adding those points to a YMMV page?
Edited by ArtemisStyleopen Halloween movie on Kabillion channel Film
I remember watching an animated Halloween movie about a boy who has a woman living with him (perhaps his mother?) There was one part of the movie and the kid wanted to eat chocolate that his mother (?) was making and he tasted it saying, "Mmmm.... chocolate!"... But the woman says, "That's not chocolate, it boo-boo soup!" It seemed to be a Canadian or British cartoon. I tried looking all over You Tube and Google, but I haven't had any luck.
openMan Getting Hit By Football Film
Someone actually created a work page (and several subpages) for Man Getting Hit By Football, despite it not being an actual film, but a Show Within a Show from an episode of The Simpsons. Is that even allowed?
Edited by StrixObscuroopenFinal Destination 2 YMMV locked Film
Yesterday, I've come across Final Destination 2 YMMV page to make some contribution upon entering the Edit Page, though I canceled my edit to fix/add more comment and the whole page locked for no reason.
Edited by rouwardopenAsking permission to recreate Trivia/AnnaKendrick Film
Note: This page was cut for reason: Trivia page for creator [costanton11] Creating red links in 0 articles.
Abandoning 82 inbound links.
You may want to ask in Ask The Tropers about whether it's safe to recreate.
Am I allowed to recreate it?
openWMG Grease Film
Every entry on WMG.Grease relates to the movie's cast members, rather than the musical itself. Should the page go on the cut list?
open What’s the show or movie Film
Do anyone know of a show or movie with teens and their small glow-ish pets and motorcycles with odd machine or arm guns??? In the beginning of the movie their seen in somewhat of a desert and there might be a moving train near back— couple of minutes later they and their pet friends have fallen in a somewhat of a ditch. It’s an animated movie or show that might have been released around 2010-2014 (somewhere in that time frame)
openTwo movie comparisons Film
Is there an easy way to take two movies and have all the matching tropes from both highlighted or something?
open Doctor Strange Film
On the Doctor Strange film page, the tropes in A-L stop at Impaled With Extreme Prejudice. The tropes J-L show up in Edit mode, but not when you're just looking at the page. Is it possible for someone who knows more than I do to fix it? I tried, but failed.
open "The Federation" - editing locked? Film
Hello, I noticed a Zero Content Example in "Film" on the site for The Federation. I was trying to edit this and there was some kind of server issue, I think. I tried again a couple times hoping not to lose my changes and now the editing feature on that site is locked. I figured this probably had to do with the overhaul earlier today.
open I need help remembering a movie. Film
It was an animated movie, I keep remembering small pieces to the film but I can not for the life of me remember the name. I remember they lived on an island and one day the volcano erupted; once the eruption happened coins, I think they were coins, we're scattered across the island. The coins house spirits or had some kind of power. I also remember them fighting darkness in the volcano to keep it from escaping.
Edited by Dwortham95openHelp with Film/Serendipity page? Film
From User Not On Any Flatbread: “The current page of Serendipity appears to be full of Zero Context Examples and not well crosswicked (there doesn't appear to be much overlap between the trope list and the page wicks under Related Pages), so if you want to improve the page, those would be good things to start with. Proper crosswicking may naturally enable more interested tropers to come across the page (of course, the examples should have sufficient context before being added the trope pages). The Zero Context Examples will need to be commented out entirely if they're cleaned up by someone unfamiliar with the work, so if you want it to thrive, filling them out as much as you can is important.“
Edited by Professional7openEdit war on The Last Jedi Film
On The Last Jedi, themetalstickman has now removed twice the same example without giving any edit reason in either case, nor discussing it. history link
openConcerning example on Film/Serendipity (possible edit war) Film
I just looked at the Film/Serendipity page and history due to Professional 7's ATT post, and noticed concerning behavior relating to one example. The page contains a Bare Your Midriff entry, which was previously deleted by Larkmarn with the edit reason "This sounds less like the trope and more like 'her midriff was exposed for a second' which is not the trope." Months later, Professional 7 re-added the same example without any edit reason given or any entry on the discussion page. The example was re-added word-for-word (right down to a misspelling), so it was clearly copy-pasted from the version Larkmarn deleted rather than an independent addition.
The original example was not added by Professional 7, but rather by a troper called 1390883, so it may not technically be an edit war. However, the original example writer, 1390883, seemed to be obsessed with that entry (as in 20+ edits by 1390883 solely devoted to editing and re-editing that one example over the course of months, often to add external image links).
I think Larkmarn's deletion was correct based on the example, but I didn't want to wade into this and continue the delete vs. add spree without getting further input, and thought the history was bizarre enough that it ought to be brought to mods attention in general.
openContributing to the Serendipity movie tropes page Film
Anyone want to help give contributions and additions to the Serendipity movie tropes page? It’s been dormant for a long time. https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Film/Serendipity#dropdown
Edited by Professional7openValid or no? ''Jurassic World Fallen Kingdom'' Spoilers. Film
I added to the YMMV page for Jurassic World: Fallen Kingdom regarding Narm, only for troper TantaMonty to remove them.
- The scene where Mills tells the heroes that Maisie is actually a clone comes right out of no where, with Mills having little reason to tell them. The sheer jarring way it is revealed is much funnier than it should be, since it was clearly meant to be a Shocking Swerve, but didn't quite land the mark.
- The film graces us with perhaps the silliest death in the entire series: Mills killing Lockwood by suffocating him with a pillow. The hilarity of such a thing in a movie filled with killer Dinosaurs is much funnier than the film probably realized.
Their reason as: The mere fact Lockwood was killed by something that was not a dinosaur is not funny at all, as he was just a feeble old man murdered by one of the most despicable characters in the movie. Also, Eli did have a reason to reveal Maisie's origins, in his own twisted mind he thought that Owen and Claire would stop caring for the young girl if they find out she was the result of unethical genetic practices..
Are these valid examples? The first one is valid if you ask me since how the scene is framed just has the reveal happen as if telling the audience, and the reason they removed it is just using headcanon for why since there isn't a reason for it. Plus, unless the trope is a misuse, opinions are still valid as far as I am aware.
Plus it seems like the troper might be semi policing the movies pages, which can be a problem going forward. Also I should add I don't mind if these are seen as bad examples, just wanted to make sure.
Edited by keyblade333openQuestion about Solo *SPOILER* Film
A few days back I corrected the name of one spoiler character on all pages for Solo Giving the following edit reason: "Darth" is a title reserved for Sith Lords, and by the time The Clone Wars, Rebels and this movie takes place, he is no longer one, he says this himself on the former two works . However troper smasll_lordvoice added more entries with the incorrect name and reverted some of my changes with no edit reason. I've PM them but received no reply, as such I ask if I could make the corrections again without incurring into an Edit War.
openSeinfeldIsUnfunny.LiveActionFilms Film
Noticed a lot of entries about Star Wars on SeinfeldIsUnfunny.Live Action Films that seem to argue with themselves, get facts incorrect, or are nattery.
"Darth Vader was noted in 1977 for being one of the scariest villains on-screen at the time. However, after becoming a heavily-marketed Series Mascot (even to kids), having seen Luke, I Am Your Father parodied a million times (which are, more often than not, more or less equal amount of Darth Vader clones) in the Expanded Universe,note which has been officially declared defunct by new Star Wars owner Disney, perhaps in part because of this trope and after getting to see villains like Exar Kun, Darth Revan or Kylo Ren, Vader is no longer perceived as the sinister force he once was, and instead has a reputation as a "cool" character akin to a superhero. Rogue One addresses this by depicting Vader, a One-Scene Wonder here, at his most sinister and brutal - making him Nightmare Fuel by 2016 standards and reminding audiences of why he's such a fearsome character."
"*** With some female fans complaining about the use of The Smurfette Principle in the series, many forget that having a woman like Leia being just as heroic as the male heroes was a groundbreaking move in the first place. Like the Vader example, this was addressed in The Force Awakens by having Rey, a woman, as the surprise main character, giving her a surge in popularity and serving as a breakthrough for the aging franchise." Seems unclear in the latter part if it's referring to Rey or Leia.
"*** George Lucas changed the 'Han shot first' scene because he and MPAA thought it was too dark and violent. Nowadays with the normalization of heroes shooting first, many fans consider the change to be an overreaction especially since Greedo was pointing a blaster at Han and he was acting in self-defense. Not helping matters is how later films show moments of heroes trying to kill helpless people like Cassian shooting a handicapped informant or Luke trying to kill his sleeping nephew." Han shot first was only changed in the '98 special editions, 21 years after ANH was first released.
openEdit war on Deadpool 2 Film
Editor nirao01 has re-added two examples on Deadpool 2 (that were removed earlier for being extremely iffy and stretching the tropes' definition) without going through discussion first.
I noticed that the Older Than They Think entry on that page was deleted without an edit reason so I added it back requesting an edit reason. A couple of weeks late, it got deleted again so I readded it asking why it was deleted without an explanation. Then today, weeks later, I saw it was deleted again with no explanation so I readded after checking the discussion page making sure there wasn't a discussion I wasn't aware of. Unfortunately what I should have checked was who was deleting it before readding because it stupidly didn't occur to me, considering there was such a gap of time between the deletion and readdes that it would be one person. I completely accept that I was in an edit war and I should have at least checked to see who was deleting it and contacted them. Also just to be clear, I won't readd it again and continue the edit war. And I will be more careful next time. But I'm just a little unsure about this, I've asked for an edit reason three times but they keep deleting it with no explanation, no PM, nothing. Should I even bother trying to contact them considering they just redelete it without offering an edit reason?