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Edited by Mrph1 on Nov 16th 2023 at 5:37:57 PM
Gundam Build Fighters' YMMV page
- Seinfeld Is Unfunny: While the series garnered the fans' interest in the concept of battling with Gunpla (though this isn't new as Plamo Kyoshiro produces the concept), some believe that Sunrise needs to retire the Build Series for the sake of focusing their realistic war-themed works, given the mediocre reception of the sequels and it's spiritual successors in the West.
Edited by FigureGunplaFan on Jul 31st 2019 at 12:21:38 AM
Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)Hey there, it's been awhile sense I've been here. Swinging by again so I could continue to work on those Brightburn tropes discused awhile ago.
- Ambiguous Situation:It's not 100% clear if the ship is sentient and is the one telling Brandon to "Take the World", or if it's merely relaying messages programmed into it by Brandon's kind.
- Composite Character:It serves as a counterpart to both the ship that brought Superman to Earth as well as Kryptonite, as the ship's material is the only thing that can hurt Brandon.
- Greater-Scope Villain:While Brandon is the film's Main Antagonist, the ships programming is the reason why Brandon became a villain in the first place.
- Wham Line:Not vocalized by the ship itself, but Brandon. The ship gives a message in an alien language when brainwashing Brandon, making it impossible for the audience to hear what exactly it's telling Brandon to do. However, Brandon then repeats the words back in English:"Take The World".
Edited by Kylotrope on Jul 30th 2019 at 9:51:46 AM
Things are really about to get Fun around here- A chapter contributed by Harutsugu Nadaka (aka Umeboshi or UmeboC), appropriately titled "Guilty Kiss",
consists ofincludes a moment of Riko and Yoshiko attempting to kisslip-to-lipafter Yoshiko findsoutRiko's secret Yuri doujin stash.(which also results on Yoshiko wanting to actually kiss her thanks to Riko's shy face) with her surgery face mask on.... It's interrupteduntilwhen they hear a camera sound from behind the door,taken bycoming from Chika and Mari themselves.Come to think of it,This is the second closest thing togeta(n un)official lip-to-lip kiss scene since Eli and Nozomi's Romeo and Juliet play in the School Idol Diary manga.- If your write-up includes a camelcase word like UmeboC, you have to add [= =] around it to prevent a wiki word.
- "Consists" isn't the right word unless that's literally the entire chapter. Is that the case? Otherwise, "includes" or "contains" would be more appropriate.
- "Kiss" implies a lip-to-lip contact, unless otherwise specified (i.e. kiss on the cheek), so "kissing lip-to-lip" is redundant.
- "Find out" vs. "find" - the former is more discovering a non-tangential thing (i.e. "she found out that they kissed"), while the latter is about something physically being located.
- The parenthetical is very awkwardly placed. "Which also results" has to have an antecedent (what is the "which"?), and its current placement implies that to be the attempted kiss....so the end result is the kiss attempt resulting in the desire to kiss.
- Tomoki Kusunoki pulling a Manji pose that vaguely looks like a "Nazi logo" to some English-speaking fans' eyes. (Some also believe that this is a Jojo pose.)
This does not seem like an appropriate use of HSQ. For one thing, HSQ is about something being spectacularly awesome. Nazi logos do not qualify.
- Win The Crowd:
AsFor those who are tired of the oversaturated moe genre, the animated adaptation wonbackthe hearts of those who wished for the manly anime to return.- "Won back" implies that former JoJo fans had left the series and were brought back because of this anime, but your write-up isn't limited to just those fans.
- "The manly anime" as in this anime specifically, or manly anime as a genre?
I also don't think this is a good example. It's too general and without context. What about this animated adaptation makes it manly? What specific moment did the "winning"?
- Unexpected Character: The two generic girls from the WATER BLUE NEW WORLD segment make a cameo appearance in the 62nd chapter of the official Nijigasaki 4komas.
- Please see both How to Write an Example (Write in Historical Present Tense) and Zero-Context Example. Your posts are violating both of these quite often.
- To go into more detail about the ZCE aspect, it needs to be explained why these particular characters are unexpected.
- If
this wastrue, this would be a hint of a possible sequel for Sunshine!!.
- This is mostly because of her usage of English words for "Meccha Going!".
- This also would mean her fully Japanese origin is an Informed Attribute, similar to how Mari's mother is revealed to be mixed blood in the Sunshine movie, despite this contradicting Mari's bio.
- I had to look up that "Meccha Going!" is a song. A song gets double marks around it.
- Movies and series get italics.
- Germans Love David Hasselhoff: Some even wish that Sunrise
needs towould make a deal with Araki to create an official collaboration between the two series.- I'm not adding this; it's natter-y.
- Memetic Bystander: Again, Honoka's father.
- This is zero context. It is also bad form to have "Again", which presumes that the reader has been reviewing elsewhere on the page. The example should stand on its own.
- The reveal of the "Dance with Minotaurus" song included in the Mitaiken HORIZON single had fans slapping actual dancing Minotaurs with Aqours in fanart.
The %%-commented out examples need rewriting to stop being speculative (Incest Yay Shipping) and context (Launcher of a Thousand Ships). They will not be re-added to the page as-is.
- Alternative Character Interpretation: Some of the protagonists (Riko, You, Hanamaru, Mari)
can be this: Are they actually developing into true lesbians over time or they're just being friends in a rather platonic manner?
This example strikes me as very...oddly phrased in regards to sexuality. "True lesbians"?
- F-MEGA [[labelnote:explanation]]The title of a fictional video game played by Kakyoin and D'Arby, this is also used by fans to express(?) pity for extremely miserable people
a la Call of Duty.[[/labelnote]]- The Call of Duty reference is not clear at all.
- The "to pity extremely miserably people" is awkwardly phrased, though not grammatically incorrect.
Edited by nombretomado on Jul 31st 2019 at 7:06:01 AM
Unless the parenthetical is its own sentence, you do not capitalize the first letter - i.e. (not even the Shogetsu chef is safe from this).
Here's something for the Rise of Skywalker WMG page.
The Resistance will recover every leftover New Republic ships and vehicles. After the remaining Resistance fled from the First Order, the Resistance will find and use every warships and vehicles leftover from the New Republic after the surviving senators decided to dissolved their task forces. But they will give every remaining ships and vehicles that were not destroyed by Starkiller base to the Resistance, in order to battle the First Order.
To nombretomado
- Disowned Adaptation: An interview on the "Shoji Kawamori Expo" event reveals that Shoji Kawamori isn't pleased that the Macross is "pirated" by Harmony Gold without any of his approval. On the other hand, he believes that Robotech is the only way to allow the West to see the original franchise.
x 13 @Kylotrope
Hey there, it's been awhile since I've been here. Swinging by again so I could continue to work on those Brightburn tropes I discussed awhile ago.
Whenever you use a colon, you must have a space between it and the following word. This includes when you have a colon after a trope name at the beginning of an example.
It's not 100% clear if the ship is sentient <- no space and is the one telling Brandon to "Take the World", or if it's merely relaying messages programmed into it by Brandon's kind.
While Brandon is the film's Main Antagonist, the ship's programming is the reason why Brandon became a villain in the first place.
Not vocalized by the ship itself, but Brandon. The ship gives a message in an alien language when brainwashing Brandon, making it impossible for the audience to hear what exactly it's telling Brandon to do. However, Brandon then repeats the words back in English: <- space "Take The World".
Changed verbs from past to present tense as per How to Write an Example - Write in Historical Present Tense.
The Resistance will recover every leftover New Republic ship and vehicle. After the remaining Resistance flees (or forces flee) from the First Order, the Resistance will find and use every warship and vehicle left over from the New Republic after the surviving senators decide to dissolve their task forces. However, they will give every remaining ship and vehicle that was not destroyed by Starkiller base to the Resistance, in order to battle the First Order.
Edited by Arivne on Aug 2nd 2019 at 6:50:01 AM
The ironic part about that flame-out is that the grammar was almost correct.
Edited by Fighteer on Aug 1st 2019 at 4:31:53 AM
"It's Occam's Shuriken! If the answer is elusive, never rule out ninjas!"- Friendly Fandoms:
Like Love Live!,Many BanG Dream! fans arealsofriends with Jojo fans. As shown in a question regarding potential future collaborations in the Questionnaire 2019 (hasstarted by the official English staff)(with one of their question regarding their potential future collaborations),many fansalreadyhopeon whetherJojo will finally collaborate with the franchiseby giving said answers.- There's no point to the Love Live! reference, as it has nothing to do with the friendly fandoms of JoJo and Bang Dream!.
- Memetic Mutation: Due to the humorous "deaths" in Girls Band Party!☆PICO, many fans believe that the shorts need someone to "die" at the end of the episode. When
And then there'sthe 24th episode, whichlacked any "deaths"in the episode,Asthe fanshad so gotten used to the running gag, theyjoked that this show isn't Girls Band Party!☆PICO if one didn't "die" in the shorts, and started the "#NotMyGarupaPico", Ahashtagis also madein responseto the said Episode.- The Example Indentation in this was not right. It should have been written as a single example, instead of tagging on additional information in sub-bullets.
- Memetic Mutation: Some JoJo's Bizarre Adventure fans often jokingly designate Kokoro as part of Giorno Giovanna/Dio Brando's bloodline, with the former's reputation as the "leader of the gang" and
both oftheir blonde hair color.
- Memetic Loser: This version of Megatron
alsobecame a punching bag for manyfans(including his Generation 1 counterpart) due to his infamously hideous appearance and his degraded role as a villain in the two sequels.- "Also" is another case of referring to a previous example. You should write examples that can stand on their own.
- "Fans" has been removed because Megatron's Generation 1 counterpart is not a fan.
- Seinfeld Is Unfunny: While the series garnered the fans' interest
inwith the concept of battling with Gunpla (though this isn't new as Plamo Kyoshiro produces the concept), some believe that Sunrise needs to retire the Build series for the sake of focusing on their realistic war-themed works, given the mediocre reception of the sequels and its spiritual successors in the West.- This does not appear to be an example of Seinfeld Is Unfunny, which is about a work being revolutionary at the time of release, but over time becoming seen as an unexciting status quo, because subsequent works adopted what made it revolutionary in the first place.
- Disowned Adaptation: An interview on the "Shoji Kawamori Expo" event reveals that Shoji Kawamori isn't pleased that
theMacross is "pirated" by Harmony Gold withoutany ofhis approval. On the other hand, he believes that Robotech is the only way to allow the West to see the original franchise.- "The" is not appropriate when talking about the proper name of a work. "The TV series" is right; "The Star Trek" is not.
- "Any of" is to be used when talking about something that can be separated into parts. Approval is not something that can be physically divided.
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Sorry, there isn't a Plamo Kyoshiro page, so...
Contributor for Gunpla Wiki. Currently suspended due to extensive writing issues. PS: I only wrote down what I saw. (audience reactions etc)Going to try this out to get back my ability to edit again. So here are some revisions of some of my old edits that most likely got me suspended. Not really sure on that, but these were the last edits I made before getting suspended. These are from the Ar Nosurge page.
- Final Boss: You battle her, possess by the Other Player, as the 1st part of the final boss.
- For the Evulz: The Other Player makes it clear that other than achieving 100% completion, they find playing the bad guy as thrilling.
- Genre Savvy: Base on the novels and some of his dialogue, they shown to be very experienced with Interdimend, heavily implying that they've been running around attacking different worlds for a while. They also knew what the heroes were attempting at the end of the game and prepared a trap to take them down in one last battle.
- Greater-Scope Villain: The one that got Ion sent to Ra Ciela by attacking her in her home dimension, Earth, which became the catalyst of the conflict in Ciel Nosurge.
- Green-Eyed Monster: Express jealousy that the player has access to two channels.
- Has a Type: The main reason they chose Prim as their avatar.
- Kick the Dog:
- Destroys Earthes in front Ion despite her pleading them to stop while laughing and smiling.
- When Casty and Delta was nearly able to get Nero to pull a Heel–Face Turn, they wait till the last minute to have Nero absorb by the Maternal Overseer to them.
- Hidden Depths: In Renall's Geometrics, Ion shows that she has a twisted side. When she hates someone so much, she actually fantasizes the person committing suicide over and over. When she got her hands on Renall, Ion forced her to commit suicide 33 times and was giddy spectating it.
- Robosexual: Her love interest is Earthes, her robot guardian.
- Secretly Selfish: There's a part of Ion that looks at her friends Kanon and Nay as status symbols and loves that they both rely on her.
Any tips or advise? Hopefully I can improve my skills in writing to get back to editing. And if I can get better in the craft, it'd be great.
"Are you the devil?" "Don't compare to me to those small fry" - Mir
That is a zero context example.