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edited 7th Nov '17 9:59:04 AM by Fighteer

SIMBA
Aug 13th 2019 at 12:24:43 PM

Found and removed an unapproved wick over on Unpopular Popular Character, this time referring to Cyclops after the events of Avengers vs. X-Men.

Cyclops was never the most popular X-Man in or out of universe, often seen as the least interesting member of the X-Men, and actively disliked by some for his straight laced, sometimes brusque and cold personality. However, Marvel's treatment of him post-Avengers vs. X-Men has turned him into this. He's reviled as a Complete Monster on the level of Hitler by the general public, his former lifelong friends and his own time-displaced teenage self, however many fans agree with him. It doesn't help that his Face–Heel Turn occurred when the X-Men were at the bottom of Marvel’s priority list, and suffering from serious mishandling as a result. Fans started to develop sympathy for him, mostly out of frustration at how unfairly he was treated, to the point that some have suggested that it is a convoluted plan to turn him into a fan favorite.

I'm pretty sure he doesn't count and that's a misuse of the trope, so I edited the entry.

Also, I decided to drop Earth X from my to-do list, mostly because the nature of the story really didn't allow for a Complete Monster to be possible. Villains either had redeeming factors or lacked moral agency (e.g. Mephisto's not a demon, but a mutant who became a demon because the collective fear of mankind willed him into becoming a demon). Anyone interested can pick it up to see if I missed something, but I kind of lost interest.

CloisterTheStupid from Oop North Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from a city that rhymes with fun Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Draftsman of Doom
Aug 13th 2019 at 12:36:52 PM

[tup] Eric, and I will wait and see on the traffickers.

Let's make some chimi-f**kin-changas!
SumDumNerd Shadow of Eternity from your worst nightmares Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Shadow of Eternity
Aug 13th 2019 at 12:37:49 PM

[tup] Eric, and I agree with Austin regarding the RWBY candidates. If something comes along to out-heinous them, we'll simply cut them. As for the Branwen Tribe, Vernal explains to Weiss that them kidnapping/trafficking/ransoming is very rare, even for them: "We don't normally deal in trafficking people - not really worth our time. But, once we realized we had a Schnee, that changed."

Read Kingdom Hearts: Forgotten Worlds here.
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Aug 13th 2019 at 12:49:05 PM

Eric seems like he still keeps. Another one of those complex ones who throw away any redeeming quality.

EDIT: Oh, something funny? I'm looking for Eric's EP, and found this gem, where I cut off new writeups because it was a lot...it was only around 20 or so [lol]

[down]I know [lol]

Edited by ACW on Aug 13th 2019 at 4:02:38 AM

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miraculous Some are good with pipes or paint.. from South Africa
Some are good with pipes or paint..
Aug 13th 2019 at 12:58:14 PM

Geeze If we got twenty for a week now then something would have gone terribly wrong with that weeks batch.

Some have skill in love My talent is in making war. The only thing that has ever kept me awake was denying it.
ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Aug 13th 2019 at 1:01:13 PM

Also, screw it, let me do this now. From Draugûl: "Kazikly Voyvoda" ("Impaler Lord"):

In a land beyond the forests
A fearless man with no remorse
Risen to power by the boyars
As warlord to the Wallachian Hordes
Bore the Name of Dracul
As the Devil’s son he was known
With an iron resolution
Against the Infidels stood alone

With the banner of the Dragon
Faced the Sultans of the East
No mercy ever flourished
From this foul and sinful beast
On the hilltops by the castle
His captives bound to die
Sharpened poles thrust in their innards
Facing upwards to the sky

Nails in heads were driven, Impalement on the stake
Regardless of religion, all shared the same fate
Dracul’s hand of Justice, swept throughout his lands
Terror from the Tyrant, none escaped the Voivode’s hands

A feast of putrid corpses lay rotten in the sun
From nobles down to peasants, all punished for what they’ve done
Vlad arranged a banquet before the impaled and befouled
And dined before the dying, as in pain they screamed and howled

At the banks of the Arges River, the waters stained in red
Upon reaching Dracul’s realm, his foes in dread they fled
For the sight they saw was sickening - Bodies hung on the city walls
Headless and dismembered, as trophies of his wars

A Last campaign was crafted
To bring down the Dragon’s reign
To cross the vast Carpathians
And the Impaler’s land reclaim
So, upon the field of battle
As he looked down in a pool of blood
His heart was pierced in vengeance
Thus came to end Prince Vlad…

Yet this deed remains uncertain
Some say he conquered Death…
And a pact was made with Satan
And thus prolonged his final breath

A gathering was thus dispatched
To exhume the Impaler’s vault
Alas the tomb was empty
And the reign of terror spread once more
All feared Draculya’s vengeance
From beyond the mortal gates
As peasants were corrupted
To a realm beyond the grave

Unnumbered deaths wrapped in mystery
In this plague-infested land
From monastrieries in the mountains
To the Turkish kingdom of the sands

Thus lives on the Voivode’s legend
Of the immortal Kazikly Bey
That the Dark Prince of Wallachia
Haunts his fortress to this day…

Yeah, Vlad/Dracula. Heinous enough easily, no disqualifiers...the ONLY issue is if he's too much of a GDV here, but I'd say otherwise he's a keep. I leave it up to you all.

Edited by ACW on Aug 13th 2019 at 4:02:21 AM

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SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from a city that rhymes with fun Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
The Draftsman of Doom
SumDumNerd Shadow of Eternity from your worst nightmares Relationship Status: You cannot grasp the true form
Shadow of Eternity
Aug 13th 2019 at 1:09:39 PM

[tup] The Count

Edited by SumDumNerd on Aug 13th 2019 at 2:09:47 AM

Read Kingdom Hearts: Forgotten Worlds here.
KazuyaProta Porky from A Industrial Farm Relationship Status: [TOP SECRET]
Bullman Relationship Status: Abstaining
Aug 13th 2019 at 1:19:37 PM

Yes to Eric and I agree with Austin regarding the RWBY duo.

Edit: Also forgot to say yes to Dracula.

Edited by Bullman on Aug 13th 2019 at 3:27:32 AM

Beast from Ontario, Canada Relationship Status: Browsing the selection
Aug 13th 2019 at 1:27:19 PM

Yes to Eric. Having read the comic along with a Joe Hill collection, I never expected him to become a complex CM. I also read a prequel focusing on his father and explaining where the flight power comes from, but nothing and no one to add as far as CM's go.

[tup] Dracula.

G-Editor I've made pudding! from Urth Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
I've made pudding!
Aug 13th 2019 at 1:28:35 PM

[tup] Mr. Zsasz and Eric Cartman... I mean Chase

Edited by G-Editor on Aug 12th 2019 at 10:29:47 PM

You are gwonded!
PolarPhantom Relationship Status: Longing for my OTP
Aug 13th 2019 at 1:29:53 PM

Thanks to ACW's link, I finally read Yhwach's EP. That was fun to read.

Alright, enough off topic stuff from me for now.

Darkness rises and Light to meet it.
therealjackieboy Flooding Your PMs from Austin, TX Relationship Status: watch?v=dQw4w9WgXcQ
Flooding Your PMs
Aug 13th 2019 at 1:46:07 PM

[tup] Dracula and Eric. Good on Joe Hill for taking one of his evil villains and making him complex, but still hateable. Unlike certain comicbook writers *glares at a picture of Brian Michael Bendis*

Edited by therealjackieboy on Aug 13th 2019 at 1:46:18 AM

Current story I'm writing
miraculous Some are good with pipes or paint.. from South Africa
Some are good with pipes or paint..
Aug 13th 2019 at 1:46:43 PM

[tup]Dracula

Hey acw. Now we both have a version of the count who well counts.

Some have skill in love My talent is in making war. The only thing that has ever kept me awake was denying it.
AustinDR Me Tie Dough-ty Walker! from Fresh and ready for life.
Me Tie Dough-ty Walker!
falcontalons from R'lyeh
Aug 13th 2019 at 2:24:31 PM

[tup] to Dracula, and Eric still seems like he qualifies.

That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons even death may die.
CloisterTheStupid from Oop North Relationship Status: Complex: I'm real, they are imaginary
Aug 13th 2019 at 2:49:15 PM

[tup] Zazu, Erica and Navel

Edited by Keshali on Aug 13th 2019 at 2:51:04 AM

ACW Unofficial Wiki Curator for Complete Monster from Arlington, VA (near Washington, D.C.)
Aug 13th 2019 at 3:05:08 PM

Polar: Bleach!Yhwach?

Also, the trees to be submitted once the batch is put up.

Edited by ACW on Aug 13th 2019 at 6:07:32 AM

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PureGrainAlkaSeltzer The Lord Of Walruses from 1200 Pennsylvania Ave Relationship Status: Getting away with murder
The Lord Of Walruses
Aug 13th 2019 at 3:08:21 PM

[tup] to Zsasz, Eric, And Dracula

I have no idea what I am doing
miraculous Some are good with pipes or paint.. from South Africa
Some are good with pipes or paint..
Aug 13th 2019 at 3:09:29 PM

So uh acw aren't you supposed to submit the rwby duo. Pretty much everyone doesn't seem to have a problem with them going up.

Some have skill in love My talent is in making war. The only thing that has ever kept me awake was denying it.

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