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Here's the Resisilobus writeup. It's a bit on the long side. If need be, I can probably trim it a bit. Or if it's fine, I'll add it to the drafts.

• I Was a Professional Internet Troll: The story's narrator, known by his online alias "Resisilobus," is a reprehensible psychopath who goes much too far in his online trolling efforts. Having spent his whole life as an outcast and a victim of bullying, Resisilobus quickly establishes himself as being far worse than his tormentors as he tells his story. His online actions are mean-spirited and mostly illegal from the start, but what truly cements him as an irredeemable monster is when he begins recalling all the deaths his trolling has caused. His first victim is a teenage girl, whom he causes to slit her wrists after he sends leaked photos of her to people she knows. He then targets a kind, elderly widower from his mother's church, harasses this man until he is driven off of social media, and then mails edited photos of the man's grandkids to his physical address. The constant torment from Resisilobus causes the man to hang himself. One of his "crowning achievements" is causing a School Shooting. He creates several fake profiles to befriend a teenage outcast online, and his manipulation causes the boy to take a gun to his school and kill seven of his classmates before turning the gun on himself. As an indicator of how little he cares about others, Resisilobus considers the aforementioned "achievements" to be inferior to his comparatively minor hacking of a popular Bible app and the subsequent confusion it causes among Christians. When he starts getting tormented by what he believes to be a demon, and thinks that it will kill him soon, all he can think to do is make a post online essentially eulogizing himself and boasting about all the horrible things he's done to people over the internet.

edited 24th Jul '17 9:05:31 AM by rosewood47

I'm also curious. Did it involve samurai and time travel by any chance?

Eh, if you wanna trim it that's fine, but it's not overly long.

Dak.

Let's get this out of the way.

• Portraits of the Dead, by John Nicholl: Mark Goddard, a university professor, is in truth a sadistic Serial Killer and torturer who derives pleasure from the pain and suffering of others. Goddard first developed his fascination with death at age twelve when he came upon a cat caught in a poacher's snare and, taking joy from the animal's suffering, crushed its head with a rock, an act he declared the best moment of his young life. From that day forward, Goddard spent his childhood and adolescence experimenting on animals, devising increasingly brutal methods of torture and execution, before finally committing his first human murder at age nineteen when he poisoned his girlfriend to death. Goddard then made a habit of killing once a year on average afterwards, before developing a chamber in his house for which to capture and entrap his victims, so he could extend their suffering as long as he wanted without fear of interference. Abducting his latest victim, his university student Emma Jones, Goddard subjects her to physical and psychological torture for weeks on end, seeking to mold her into his "soulmate", or kill her if she fails to meet his standards. When detective Clive Rankin proves a liability, Goddard kills him and attempts to frame the murder as a suicide. A psychopath who admits to having no empathy for others, Goddard only lives to pleasure himself at the expense of others.

Okay, so an update on Uber and Markus Jung:

In the latest issue, Markus, Codename Siegfried is finally killed off by a squadron of American supersoldiers in a manner that defines Rasputinian Death. As we've previously qualified him, I want to note that he received a boatload of more crimes in the sequel serious Invasion so I can handle a new writeup for him.

Namely, while he was the nastiest of the three Nazi supersoldiers (Siegmund and Sieglinde have redeeming qualities, loved ones, and both are revolted by Markus), Markus leads a campaign of unbelievable atrocity along with American coast, which sets him well above any other Nazi soldier. The keepers rest as Hitler, Goebbels and Markus for now, with Mengele waiting in the wings.

The next issue...it's been over two weeks since the latest Second Apocalypse book came out, finishing the Aspect E Mperor quartet, while also concluding the storyline of the listed villains Aurang and Aurax...there do need to be some changes made.

Namely...Aurax needs to be cut for genuinely loving his brother Aurang, while Aurang does not seem to actively reciprocate, and is the far more active and dangerous of the Inchoroi brothers with more hands-on crimes.

edited 24th Jul '17 9:40:04 AM by Lightysnake

Shall I add rewrites of both Markus and Aurang to your to-do list (especially because, not having read the books, I have no idea how to separate the twins' crimes, except for cutting the last sentence)? What happens to the twins, anyway?

BTW, for those curious, this◊ is one of Markus's new crimes. That was the White House, and it was occupied.

edited 24th Jul '17 9:51:43 AM by ACW

I challenge this Star Wars entry;

• Jedi Starfighter: Captain Cavik Toth and Lieutenant Bella drop bioweapons on a town filled with civillians, and when the test is successful Bella still tries to level the city purely because she enjoys, failing only because Reti and Adi intervene. She also violently threatens her subordinates. Toth, meanwhile, kills his aids with the THX weapon simply because production is behind schedule, and develops weapons to use against the clones, testing them against innocents. Nym's aid describes him as a ruthless monster.

They would easily qualify in any other work but in Star Wars Legends, that's not really that heinous.

Edit: And this too.

• Bounty Hunter: Montross's first introduction shows him coldly gunning down a helpless bounty who's wanted dead or alive, simply for the pleasure of murder. As the man desperately pleads, his bounty is worth more alive. Montross replies "You're worth enough dead." Later on, while trying to beat Fett to the big prize that they're both after, he tortures Fett's non-combatant friend and mother-figure to find out the location, mortally wounding her in the process. Then he sets her entire space station to explode, hoping to kill Fett. He fails, but undoubtedly slaughters countless civilians who were on the station. Fortunately, he gets a karmic death when Jango leaves him to be ripped apart by the Banda Gora.

He also I am not sure is heinous enough, but if he is, the last line about Karmic Death needs to go.

edited 24th Jul '17 10:17:40 AM by emperors

Both approved before. You didn't provide enough to reopen. There was nothing new there

But at least remove the line about Karmic Death. And I am not sure if he is heinous enough because blowing up space station? That's normal for Star Wars; some characters blew up planets. And gunning down helpless bounty while horrible and cruel and Kick the Dog, is it really heinous?

edited 24th Jul '17 10:25:21 AM by emperors

Not touching the heinousness debate, but that bit about Karmic Death probably should indeed go.

Toth can be rewritten a bit. Montross is a violent serial killer who got a ton of his own people killed and blew up a space station in a standalone game. He can count for his tier.

Okay, fine Montross stays (though I feel we should judge SW as a whole heinous standard). I don't know about Toth but Bella?

Toth uses bioweapons in civilian populaces with intentions on using them on planetary scales.

Wow, than he needs a rewrite. Let's keep Toth though.

@Scraggle: There was no complaint about the lack of new proposals. "Until anyone has a new proposal" does not sound like complaining to me. I also didn't mean to infer anything about anyone, and I'd even said it was not at all Footstep's fault for the dispute on what ought to qualify or disqualify an example like Count Chocula. (Still am not over that someone even made him a serious villain worth having a serious discussion about.)

@32 Footsteps: Why should I put the "condensation" elsewhere when I'm far from the first or even the worst to take such a stance on this thread? I called out the flawed nature of your argument against a candidate's inclusion on the trope and cited why it was so flawed given how we've done things for this trope on this thread before. You don't have to agree on the candidate and are free to downvote him if you believe he's not a good fit for the trope - no one is going to force you to do otherwise. But I felt I needed to acknowledge that the argument you made for your reasoning was an outdated one.

Also, Montross is voiced by Clancy Brown.

Need I say more?

Ah, Clancy Brown. He of Silas/Nibiru Entity/Baron Praxis/Gunnar/Kurgan fame. Damn, with 6, I think the only one who may have more is Hamill, who I think has 7 or 8 (counting each Joker separately).

This gets me thinking... what are the film actors with the biggest amount of CM villains played?

I think that's Alan Rickman, with 5 here: Hans Gruber, Elliot Marston, Judge Turpin, The Sheriff of Nottingham and The Interrogator.

Clancy Brown has more monsters in voice acting, but he has one in live-action: The Kurgan. He has to be taken as a whole.

I think Boris Karloff is the top there.

Clancy also has Gunnar.

Lighty, care to list Boris's? If nothing else, I'm curious if he has a longer gap than Rickman. Rickman's first 4 were from 1988-1991, then Sweeney Todd in 2007.

Clancy is actually longer: 1986 and 2007.

Ian McDiarmid probably has the longest gap between appearances of the SAME CM: 16 years between Jedi and Phantom.

edited 24th Jul '17 12:09:23 PM by ACW

Karloff has Hjalmar Poelzig, John Gray, Baron Gregor de Berghman (from The Black Room (1935)) and... what are the others?

There's also Konrad Markesan.

Ah, of course...I always forget Live Action TV.

Well, that would make 4 for him. Rickman's still ahead.

Karloff was also George Sims and Mord