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#26: Oct 2nd 2021 at 3:12:05 AM

Consensus is in favour of both options. Make 'em so!

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#27: Oct 2nd 2021 at 9:42:36 AM

Was about to make the swap, but I realized we should probably run through the on-page examples first and see what can be moved and salvaged. Any I find that seem to fit the current definition and have enough context to save them will be reposted here:

  • The Monster of the Week in UFO Warrior Dai Apolon frequently adopt giant demon-like forms, all the better for the titular Humongous Mecha to beat up.
  • In Happy Heroes, as the main characters live on a different planet, aliens aren't really considered that special. A cry of "monster", however, will send the heroes into action right away (though it's never really been made clear what this show's definition of a "monster" is).
  • The Reavers serve this purpose on Firefly, but the trope is actually more often subverted than not, as there are no aliens and the characters are more likely to find themselves up against other humans than anything. In the Big Damn Movie, Serenity, the Reavers are revealed to be once-human survivors of an Alliance experiment aimed at pacifying an entire planet's population and had the opposite reaction to the drug they pumped into the atmosphere, which instilled such apathy in everyone else that they simply laid down and died.
  • Ultra Series:
    • The Monster of the Week is always either a Kaiju or an alien invader (usually able to make themselves kaiju-sized). However, it should be noted that the titular Ultramen are aliens themselves.
    • In a subversion of the trope, many of the shows feature friendly or nonviolent kaiju and aliens from time to time. Although there will often be a small fight if a misunderstanding occurs, most of the friendly monsters don't die in the end (and if they do, it's always Played for Drama).
  • Warhammer 40,000: The Holy Imperium of Man preaches this about pretty much all non-humans - Eldar, Orkz, Tyranids, Tau, even Daemons: All are evil and must be destroyed, with little to no distinction made between "xeno" species. They're little better themselves, though.
  • Kid Icarus: Uprising has every single nonhuman living thing as an enemy. Even, later in the game, the centurions.

Edited by WarJay77 on Oct 2nd 2021 at 1:23:24 PM

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#28: Oct 2nd 2021 at 10:27:22 AM

Welp, made the swap. Most of the on-page examples were... really, really bad, so it didn't take as long as I thought it would.

Salvageable examples from Wick Cleaning:

  • Goosebumps: Across the series, if it's anything but a normal human or animal, it's almost always hostile, with few exceptions.
  • Journey to the West: The obstacles the pilgrims meet on their journey are nearly always caused or exacerbated by some immortal creature, and the solution is nearly always for Sun Wukong to fight the creature until it is either beaten senseless or proven to be too strong for him (which, surprisingly given Wukong defeated the entire army of heaven, happens considerably more often), at which point Guanyin either comes to help him or tells him to request the assistance some specific deities who can do so. Maneuvering the creature into a place where the Monkey King can attack it draws out the plots. This can be read as political messaging: in Heaven's large bureaucracy, Wukong and co. must fight the corrupt demons abusing the mortal populace. Afterwards, the misbehaving Heavenly creature is taken back to Heaven to be dealt with.

Edited by WarJay77 on Oct 2nd 2021 at 4:18:46 AM

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#29: Oct 2nd 2021 at 2:43:56 PM

24 wicks left- 22 if you don't count the wick check sandbox (cutlisted) and Ambiguity Index. If anyone wants to finish it up while I'm having dinner, be my guest.

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#30: Oct 2nd 2021 at 3:32:26 PM

I posted a notice on the discussion page and dewicking is already done (but not by me). Are we done here?

Edited by GastonRabbit on Oct 2nd 2021 at 5:32:47 AM

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#32: Oct 3rd 2021 at 3:26:02 AM

Closing then.

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