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I am surprised that there hasn't been a stable WMG/WMG cleanup thread yet.

Here we look at the entries at WMG and make sure it doesn't get too out of control.

    What We Don't Want to See 
  • Stealth complaning and Creator Bashing. Enough said.
  • NSFW entries. Basically, any entry that contains or panders to bizarre sexual parings or fetishes.
  • Entries that purely consist of trolling or out of context memes. WMG is a silly place, but a line has to be drawn somewhere.
  • WMG that seems to be based on Content Leaks, or states that it is jossed/confirmed by leaks. We don't trope leaks.
  • WMG that veers into Real Life Troping. Creators can potentially have WMG subpages, but they should only focus on the creator's work - and should only be created if the WMG is about works that don't have their own pages. Things like speculation about why a creator left a project don't belong on WMG.
  • WMG for episodic works that spoils future instalments. WMG must always be Spoilers Off, but a WMG page that's specifically for the first book in a trilogy shouldn't spoil the other two.

Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 18th 2024 at 10:08:52 AM

GoosefromWikipedia (Rule of Three)
#1: Aug 2nd 2020 at 12:00:28 PM

I am surprised that there hasn't been a stable WMG/WMG cleanup thread yet.

Here we look at the entries at WMG and make sure it doesn't get too out of control.

    What We Don't Want to See 
  • Stealth complaning and Creator Bashing. Enough said.
  • NSFW entries. Basically, any entry that contains or panders to bizarre sexual parings or fetishes.
  • Entries that purely consist of trolling or out of context memes. WMG is a silly place, but a line has to be drawn somewhere.
  • WMG that seems to be based on Content Leaks, or states that it is jossed/confirmed by leaks. We don't trope leaks.
  • WMG that veers into Real Life Troping. Creators can potentially have WMG subpages, but they should only focus on the creator's work - and should only be created if the WMG is about works that don't have their own pages. Things like speculation about why a creator left a project don't belong on WMG.
  • WMG for episodic works that spoils future instalments. WMG must always be Spoilers Off, but a WMG page that's specifically for the first book in a trilogy shouldn't spoil the other two.

Edited by Mrph1 on Mar 18th 2024 at 10:08:52 AM

WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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#2: Aug 2nd 2020 at 12:11:41 PM

This is a good idea. We might also need to cleanup debates- WMG is the place to share and discuss theories, not to argue over said theories.

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GoosefromWikipedia (Rule of Three)
#3: Aug 2nd 2020 at 12:51:20 PM

To start, the Conspiracy Theories folder of Real Life needs a good look at. I am questioning why we even have a WMG page for Real Life.

jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
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#4: Aug 2nd 2020 at 2:10:59 PM

WMG.The Emoji Movie definitely needs to be looked at. A lot of the theories are just sbashing the movie or just absurd theories about Real Life. My favorite has to be "Dunkirk fans will join the anti-Emoji Fandom Alliance"

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Vilui Since: May, 2009
#5: Aug 2nd 2020 at 2:28:12 PM

The Order of the Stick has several subpages, included "Jossed Theories" and "Confirmed Theories". Several theories have been duplicated on those pages without removing them from the other pages. There are also theories duplicated on the same page.

The "Jossed" page has some sub-bullets with incorrect justifications, such as "Word Of God says the MitD is something from D&D." [Rich has said the MitD is not something he just made up for the story; not quite the same thing.

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#6: Aug 2nd 2020 at 6:18:21 PM

Homestar Runner is just... bizarre. The work is basically a cartoon sitcom, with the characters all some flavor of Cloud Cuckoolander, and with varying degrees of Medium Awareness and exploiting said awareness, but the items include saying one particularly detached character is God...

Of course, there are some less out-there items, and I don’t know that there’s any rule against the oddities of the page, but it sure feels out of place among the wiki as a whole in terms of how misrepresentative of the work some items are.

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WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
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jandn2014 Very Spooky from somewhere in Connecticut Since: Aug, 2017 Relationship Status: Hiding
Very Spooky
#8: Sep 7th 2020 at 6:52:52 PM

Should WMG.The Mysterious Mr Enter really exist? It's basically theorization about a real person.

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#9: Sep 7th 2020 at 6:54:52 PM

I'd say it should be cut

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LaundryPizza03 Maintenance? from Texas Since: Aug, 2020
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#10: Sep 7th 2020 at 7:32:37 PM

[up]x6 I say it should be cut and added to the Permanent Red Link Club and NoRealLife.Too Controversial. Let's look through it:

  • Nonsensical conspiracy theories and ROCEJ violations (e.g. "The H1N1 virus is a result of Real Life being ported over to being a VideoGame/PandemicII mod.")
  • Natter magnet. For example:
It logically follows that Obama is a pretender (possibly a sleeper agent), who was designed to be as similar as possible to our local Optimus Prime. The fact that he hasn't solved all the world's problems (or even America's) within the first few months, and is taking a more realistic, human timescale, speaks volumes about both the complexity of our problems and the limitations of our local Autobots. Unless Obama is part of a complex conquering scheme on the part of both Autobots and Decepticons...
  • Ridiculous length, including 2 archives
Maybe the NRLEP thread can give input.

EDIT: It has been nominated for NRLEP.

Edited by LaundryPizza03 on Sep 7th 2020 at 9:43:18 AM

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#11: Sep 15th 2020 at 3:37:03 PM

[up] Well, I think we shouldn't have added it. Very little is flame bait or in violation of the ROCEJ, standards for natter are significantly lower on WMG pages from my understanding, and I don't think length alone is a good enough justification. Can it be removed?

MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#12: Sep 20th 2020 at 11:42:48 AM

How much mass is allowed in WMG? There's one on WMG.Heroes Of The Storm that's always bugged me. It's a list of theorized future characters... which happens to include just about every noteworthy character in World of Warcraft, Diablo, StarCraft, and Overwatch. In fact, it literally lists every Overwatch hero.

It wasn't so bad a few years ago when it was a list of characters with possible leads, but it was slowly added to and is now pretty ridiculous. It's past guessing and more scattershotting.

GoldenCityBird from the UK Since: Oct, 2018
#13: Sep 28th 2020 at 3:40:38 AM

Found this on WMG.Among Us:


The Impostors are not the bad guys here.

Check out this reddit for why.


Is this good? Doesn't seem like it's OK, since it's someone else's WMG.

Edited by GoldenCityBird on Sep 28th 2020 at 12:43:15 PM

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#14: Sep 28th 2020 at 6:24:50 AM

Should WMG.Michael Jackson be cut? Someone brought it up on the "real person" clean up thread for being just a bunch of conspiracy theories about the person, not his music.

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ImperialMajestyXO Since: Nov, 2015
#15: Sep 28th 2020 at 8:51:30 AM

[up] There are a couple about songs of his.

MurlocAggroB from the second-most ridiculous province of Canada Since: May, 2015
#16: Sep 28th 2020 at 10:48:34 AM

[up][up][up] I don't think it's bad to rewrite a popular theory, but it needs to actually be written. Weblinks Are Not Examples, even in WMG.

GrigorII Since: Aug, 2011
#17: Sep 28th 2020 at 11:51:07 AM

Another element I have fixed sometimes is spoiler tags misuse. It is fine to hide a spoiler from the actual work, but not something that is entirely part of the WMG.

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LaundryPizza03 Maintenance? from Texas Since: Aug, 2020
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#18: Sep 29th 2020 at 2:03:58 AM

WMG.Real Life was kept. Can we clean it up now? Remember, we're looking for ROCEJ violations.

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LaundryPizza03 Maintenance? from Texas Since: Aug, 2020
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#19: Dec 16th 2020 at 5:54:01 PM

Bumping. There's a pending Image Pickin' thread for WMG.The Amazing World Of Gumball, which notes that the page violates the rule of no images for WMG subpages. Any other problems on that page?

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AdeptGaderius Otaku from the Anime World Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#20: Dec 16th 2020 at 6:32:01 PM

I found these gems, mostly political in reference to Donald Trump.

Donald Trump's toupee is a puppeteer parasite
Yes we're all a bit leery of that thing on his head. That's a side effect of the psionic emanations it uses to control Trump's mind. "Trump's" policies are carefully calculated to destabilize the world and soften us up for the main invasion. No we shouldn't hate Trump, we should pity him. He's just the innocent slave of an evil extradimensional rodent.
Related to Michael Moore works for Bush and Glenn Beck works for Obama theories: Donald Trump secretly works for Barack Obama and/or Hillary Clinton.
They enlisted the aid of The Donald to thoroughly discredit the Republicans and possibly ruin the political careers of every other Republican candidate (especially Tea Party contenders such as Ted Cruz and Marco Rubio) by having Trump spout Neo-Fascist rhetoric and insult nearly every major group (including groups critical to winning the November election such as women and Latinos), figuring (correctly) that Republicans would embrace his brash personality and far-right stances while the majority of Americans would turn away from the GOP in disgust. Clinton's motivations are obviously to win the presidency in the same way LBJ beat Goldwater, by presenting her likely opponent as a dangerous extremist who will endanger the democratic principles America was built on. Obama's motivation is that his policies be continued or perhaps even strengthened (should Clinton move to the left once elected or should Bernie Sanders be elected) and the best way to ensue that is by having the GOP cripple itself in the civil war that has erupted between Pro and Anti-Trump factions and then sink itself completely when they try to run a candidate as extreme and divisive as Trump. This might end up being a case of Gone Horribly Right should Trump (or Bernie Sanders if he wasn't part of the plan) actually win the November election.

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LaundryPizza03 Maintenance? from Texas Since: Aug, 2020
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#22: Dec 19th 2020 at 5:14:37 PM

[up][up] Which page was that? Real Life?

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AdeptGaderius Otaku from the Anime World Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#23: Dec 19th 2020 at 7:41:41 PM

[up] Real Life is what you're looking for.

AdeptGaderius Otaku from the Anime World Since: Nov, 2018 Relationship Status: Anime is my true love
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#24: Dec 20th 2020 at 2:40:56 AM

A question about removal of entries. Should WMG pertaining political figures before 2016 be kept, or should it be removed?

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#25: Jan 12th 2021 at 9:04:34 PM

A while ago, it was decided that "meta" Headscratchers are not allowed. An example of a page that was cut for this reason was Headscratchers.Wreck It Ralph Meta.

I wonder if the same is true for WMG.

Here's a list of all the "meta" WMG pages I could find, but I suspect that some of them may be using "meta" diffferently than that thread. Any non-"meta" examples can be moved elsewhere.

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