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The Rule of Cautious Editing Judgment exists to prevent tropers from making agenda-based edits or bringing up irrelevant controversial issues, but it's not always obvious if something breaks the rule or not. This thread serves the purposes of:

  • Getting consensus on cutting overly controversial edits.
  • Rewriting biased examples to be more neutral.
  • Pre-emptively clarifying if a possible example actually violates the rule, or if it's okay to add.
  • Making sure that the rule isn't just being used as an excuse to write a Zero-Context Example ("Some people think that X is Y, and that's all we have to say about it.")

See also the thread "Trump and ROCEJ" for the specific topic of tropers sneaking their political views (not just views regarding Donald Trump, despite the title) onto the wiki.

See Pages Attracting Edits That Promote Bigotry for pages that attract ROCEJ violations that are bigoted in nature.

Edited by GastonRabbit on Feb 16th 2023 at 5:25:14 AM

SkyCat32 The Draftsman of Doom from tall grass (Five Year Plan) Relationship Status: TV Tropes ruined my love life
The Draftsman of Doom
#1501: Sep 8th 2021 at 8:02:15 PM

I plan on adding the following example to HoistByHisOwnPetard.Real Life:

Edit: Why do medical facts have to be so controverial?

[down] If it's misuse, I won't add it.

[down][down] Fair enough.

Edited by SkyCat32 on Sep 9th 2021 at 2:36:42 PM

Rawr.
wingedcatgirl I'm helping! from lurking (Holding A Herring) Relationship Status: Oh my word! I'm gay!
I'm helping!
#1502: Sep 8th 2021 at 8:16:19 PM

That's probably not a correct use of the trope — unless their choice to spread these conspiracy theories caused their subsequent death.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#1503: Sep 9th 2021 at 10:44:32 AM

[up] [up] That better fits Death by Irony. Also it might be a bit tasteless to mock people who recently died and it almost certainly violates the ROCEJ.

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
Unicorndance Logic Girl from Thames, N.Z. Since: Jul, 2015 Relationship Status: Above such petty unnecessities
Logic Girl
#1504: Sep 13th 2021 at 12:45:13 AM

On UncannyValley.Real Life, there's a note saying autistic people can be creepy, but a note saying that it's wrong to be afraid of autistic people.

For every low there is a high.
TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#1506: Sep 13th 2021 at 3:06:46 AM

[up][up]Misuse anyway.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
NonsenseBearer Since: May, 2018
#1507: Sep 19th 2021 at 2:56:53 AM

Is it ok to have the Murasaki Shikibu page list off tropes from her diary?

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#1509: Sep 19th 2021 at 7:21:08 AM

It's a ZCE.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#1510: Sep 19th 2021 at 7:23:04 AM

[up] Cut or treat it like a ZCE?

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Sep 19th 2021 at 10:23:32 AM

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#1511: Sep 19th 2021 at 7:28:17 AM

I would say cut, but I feel like we should analyze it further.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
WarJay77 Big Catch, Sparkle Edition (Troper Knight)
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
#1512: Sep 19th 2021 at 8:45:17 AM

Ehh, I'd personally just hide it. Then again, the NRLEP stuff.... I could go either way tbh.

Edited by WarJay77 on Sep 19th 2021 at 11:45:41 AM

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AlmightyKingPrawn I can chase the wind, I can race the rain from Down at Fraggle Rock *clap clap* Since: Oct, 2019 Relationship Status: I love you for psychological reasons
I can chase the wind, I can race the rain
#1513: Sep 19th 2021 at 9:34:40 AM

Through a wiki walk I ended up on YMMV.Balls Of Steel:

  • Hilarious in Hindsight: The Militant Black Guy was crying racism at the innocuous nine years before the phrase 'social justice warrior' entered the mainstream lexicon.
I don't even know if I need to explain this one. Permission to chainsaw?

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valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1514: Sep 19th 2021 at 9:36:49 AM

I… what? Get rid of that, I can’t even tell what it’s supposed to be saying, other than it’s trying to push buttons.

Coolnut Since: Jan, 2001
#1515: Sep 19th 2021 at 10:02:22 AM

[up]x7 It looks like a backhanded RL example on an NRLEP page. I say delete it.

TheLivingDrawing Lucas the Dreamer from The Town of Clayton Since: Apr, 2019 Relationship Status: Yes, I'm alone, but I'm alone and free
Lucas the Dreamer
#1516: Sep 19th 2021 at 12:32:30 PM

[up] Gotcha. On it now. Edit: Gone now.

Edited by TheLivingDrawing on Sep 19th 2021 at 3:35:31 PM

Why waste time when you can see the last sunset last?
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Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him
#1517: Sep 21st 2021 at 8:18:28 AM

I just found the following on BetterThanItSounds.Web Original:

  • KiwiFarms: Assholes with nothing better to do ruin the lives of people they barely know.

...This just seems like backhanded complaining, and more specifically I don't think the site in question should be mentioned on TV Tropes. Cut?

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on Sep 21st 2021 at 11:18:35 AM

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valozzy Since: Feb, 2013 Relationship Status: Desperate
#1518: Sep 21st 2021 at 8:22:24 AM

Something sure is weird about that page. Also yea cut it, Better Than It Sounds is for works that people like, and it’s neither a work or liked by us.

Edited by valozzy on Sep 21st 2021 at 11:23:15 AM

themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
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mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#1520: Sep 21st 2021 at 8:59:37 AM

Also it implies that the website is better than that description...

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
themayorofsimpleton Now a lurker. Thanks for everything. | he/him from Elsewhere (Experienced, Not Yet Jaded) Relationship Status: Abstaining
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Shadow8411 Since: Jul, 2019
#1522: Oct 3rd 2021 at 5:55:42 PM

From YMMV.SpongeBobSquarePantsS2E29SurvivalOfTheIdiotsDumped:

  • Memetic Mutation:
    • "Dirty Dan" became a nickname for former Nickelodeon sitcom producer Dan Schneider, who is a rumored foot fetishist. Rumor has it that "Dirty Dan" was an inside joke for Dan's behavior.

Cutegirl920fire CG for short from NYC apparently (Rule of Three) Relationship Status: Paris holds the key to my heart
CG for short
#1523: Oct 3rd 2021 at 5:59:46 PM

[up] True, but cut it regardless.

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mightymewtron Angry babby from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
Angry babby
#1524: Oct 3rd 2021 at 6:02:00 PM

I think if it's a legit meme, it could stay, but remove the "rumor" and reword it to describe how the community jokes about Dan without implying anything definite.

I feel like other guys named Dan have been mocked with that meme, though?

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
KUnlimited Since: Sep, 2020
#1525: Oct 4th 2021 at 11:42:35 AM

I just found Creator.Rose Christo, and most of the page is about the controversy surrounding her. Is it keep-worthy?

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