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MOD NOTE: TROPES BLANKET-BANNED FROM HAVING VIDEO EXAMPLES:


It's been discussed a lot at the Video Uploading thread that a lot of poor videos are slipping through the cracks, and that a clean-up effort is necessary if we are to combat the problem.

Common issues are:

  • Videos spoiling major events from a work
  • Videos not actually fitting the trope they're attached to
  • Videos in which the important part doesn't happen until halfway through, with the length being ultimately pointless
  • Videos that use the entire work, breaking copyright; this can be done either with one video showcasing an entire short video, or multiple videos that add up to using the entire work in piecemeal.
  • Videos lacking the proper media source, or any media source at all.
  • General quality problems, like audio issues or artifacting.

So, we've got our work cut out for us; but this is at least a place to discuss problems and come to solutions.

Some helpful links:

Please take video moderation requests to this thread.

Edited by Berrenta on Sep 3rd 2023 at 7:13:45 AM

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#1676: May 20th 2021 at 6:26:10 PM

Not without further discussion first anyway, which would be suited for this thread, not that one. [up]

Edited by Twiddler on May 20th 2021 at 6:27:29 AM

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#1677: May 20th 2021 at 6:28:41 PM

I don't get why those videos can't all be compiled into a single video. They all seem to be from the same episode, maybe even the same scene. I also still have concerns about this being fetish motivated.

Edited by mightymewtron on May 20th 2021 at 9:28:54 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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#1678: May 20th 2021 at 6:56:31 PM

[up] I have concerns about potential fetish motivation as well.

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WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#1679: May 20th 2021 at 8:37:11 PM

That, and I also think it's a form of Fan Myopia or general fan-wankage, rather than normal entry pimp behavior. I'm an entry pimp for several works, and though I've given several of those works videos, I try not to overstuff them, and even then most of them have less videos than any of the more popular works do. There's a line between pimping a favorite work and wonking about that work, and multiple videos of the same source on the same trope feels like wonkage. Who reading Balloon Belly will want to see seven videos from the same source, regardless of what that source is? I certainly wouldn't.

Variety is the lifeblood of this site, and issues like this take away that variety.

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#1680: May 21st 2021 at 6:45:54 AM

>Who reading Balloon Belly will want to see seven videos from the same source, regardless of what that source is?

And this once again brings up the fetish issue because... people with very precise fetishes, that's who.

Trouble Cube continues to be a general-purpose forum for those who desire such a thing.
PurpleEyedGuma Since: Apr, 2020
#1681: May 21st 2021 at 6:49:17 AM

That’s the thing, though—it’s technically not against the rules.

Come to think of it, duplicate videos for multiple tropes isn’t listed as being against the rules, either.

Edited by PurpleEyedGuma on May 21st 2021 at 9:50:04 AM

Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#1682: May 21st 2021 at 8:12:30 AM

It might become the rules if this happens again, though.

WarJay77 Discarded and Feeling Blue (Troper Knight)
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#1683: May 21st 2021 at 10:16:03 AM

Right, it's not against the rules yet because nobody's made a rule yet and videos are still new territory.

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#1685: May 21st 2021 at 8:45:44 PM

The "I HATE YOU!" video on "The Reason You Suck" Speech (from The Nostalgia Critic) has this description, but I question if the bolded section is relevant as it's not even shown in the video and isn't relevant to the trope at hand (I'm mostly iffy cuz this scene attracts a lot of complaining on the wiki):

"He rips into Hyper after she (again) won't leave him alone in Christmas Story II, angrily pointing out that being kidnapped and stalked doesn't put him in a loving mood, but she pulls a Wounded Gazelle Gambit and he's made to apologize to her."

Edited by mightymewtron on May 21st 2021 at 11:46:05 AM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#1686: May 21st 2021 at 9:21:46 PM

[up] Just watched the video; I agree, it serves no purpose there.

Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#1687: May 26th 2021 at 3:26:26 AM

I've noticed some videos linking character pages as sources. (e.g. "One handed grip, deconstructed" on One-Handed Zweihänder) Okay or nah?

Edited by Twiddler on May 26th 2021 at 3:28:11 AM

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#1688: May 26th 2021 at 11:18:13 AM

[up]The upload form specifically mentions that's allowed.

Edited by rjd1922 on May 26th 2021 at 1:18:22 PM

Keet cleanup
mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#1689: May 26th 2021 at 11:24:31 AM

[up][up] Yes, I can't remember where it says so (maybe on the uploader?) but a character page is considered a "media source" in addition to the work page.

[nja]

Edited by mightymewtron on May 26th 2021 at 2:24:41 PM

I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Twiddler (On A Trope Odyssey)
#1690: May 26th 2021 at 12:37:18 PM

(Search for the Groupname first (I.E. Laconic/, WesternAnimation/, Main/). Then type in the name of the Film/TV Show/Character/etc. that is depicted in this video and then select it from the list)

Ah, I see.

mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#1691: May 26th 2021 at 1:33:04 PM

I think the example for Eye Catch titled "MonMusu" from Monster Musume is too NSFW, mostly because the third in the compilation is a fairly detailed Panty Shot. It would need to be further cut before being reuploaded.

I wouldn't be surprised if some of the other video examples from this series had similar lewdness issues.

Edited by mightymewtron on May 26th 2021 at 4:34:44 AM

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Mavado from Sweden Since: Nov, 2010 Relationship Status: Faithful to 2D
#1692: May 27th 2021 at 9:21:31 AM

Those are denim shorts, not panties. If anything, this site is far too prudish.

Edited by Mavado on May 27th 2021 at 6:43:10 PM

mightymewtron Lots of coffee from New New York Since: Oct, 2012 Relationship Status: THIS CONCEPT OF 'WUV' CONFUSES AND INFURIATES US!
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#1693: May 27th 2021 at 9:59:17 AM

The point is that I can see her pussy bulge. That feels a bit... much.

Edited by mightymewtron on May 27th 2021 at 12:59:27 PM

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#1694: May 27th 2021 at 11:37:11 AM

JEEEZ

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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#1695: May 27th 2021 at 11:42:26 AM

[up][up] Just watched the video. Yeah that needs to go. The level of detail has me suspicious about one-handed troping.

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#1696: May 27th 2021 at 11:44:10 AM

What is one-handed troping?

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#1697: May 27th 2021 at 11:45:37 AM

Considering how skeevy the series is, probably 75% of the page is one-handed troping. That said, it still has enough of a plot that it's not cuttable per P5.

I brought up in the P5 thread that some of the other video examples are also a bit awkward. In particular I pointed out "Dinner, Bath, or Sex" Offer, Headbutt Thermometer, and Corner of Woe. That's only from the first page though, since it is overloaded with video examples.

[up] That's when you trope with only one hand, because the other one is busy doing things.

If ya know what I mean.

Edited by WackyPancake on May 27th 2021 at 8:46:19 PM

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#1698: May 27th 2021 at 11:45:54 AM

[up][up] Term used on the P5 thread (and other threads) that refers to when tropers are adding things that they are obviously aroused by as they are adding them. "One-handed" is a euphemism for...things that I would rather not discuss here.

I am concerned that the person who added that video may have added it knowing how NSFW it is, and may have had, well, other motivations for adding it.

Edited by themayorofsimpleton on May 27th 2021 at 2:46:01 PM

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#1699: May 27th 2021 at 11:49:26 AM

I see. It basically means pervo-troping.

[up][up]Maybe all of those tropes should be No Video Examples, Please?

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
WackyPancake from My computer. Since: May, 2011
#1700: May 27th 2021 at 11:51:06 AM

Corner of Woe is not a fanservice trope, and it is admittedly probably just me being overtly bluenosey. But I kinda raised an eyebrow at the fact the video consists entirely of the characters discussing their bra/bust sizes.

Edited by WackyPancake on May 27th 2021 at 8:51:15 PM

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