Someone needs to get Breakermorant into this thread.
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You mean Breaker Morant? That's Australian, according to the page.
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No, I mean Breaker Morrant, the troper who has made a whole sheaf of European cinema work pages of late.
https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Tropers/BreakerMorrant
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You can send a PM to a thread by using tilde at-symbol backslash tropername. Like this: ~Breaker Morant.
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Paging ~breakermorrant. Though they don't seem to have been super active recently, and I would want them to work through the Get Help With English Thread at least for a while.
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The Man Who Killed Don Quixote… Coproduced between France, Belgium and Spain with a British director. Can't get more European than that. 
Though it seems some people familiar with Gilliam's work found the film underwhelming, it was quite fascinating to me to share the main character's confusion as to what was real and what wasn't. Having the third act take place in a costume party was quite a brilliant move in that regard, as it blended all of the film's aspects together. I'm not very fond of the ending though. Toby becoming cray and taking over the Don Quixote mantle after accidentally killing Javier was kinda poetic but incredibly sad at the same time.
I'm getting a Filmstruck subscription today. Probably the first thing I do will be to watch The 400 Blows and then break the redirect and make a separate page for it.
It is a great film, as if it's reputation hadn't confirmed that.
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Today really brought home for me the decline of physical media. Honestly, I like having physical media. Several of my most recent work pages for foreign films, including Stolen Kisses, were facilitated by acquiring used DVD. Can't do that in our brave new streaming age, can't sell your streaming stuff at a yard sale or donate it to a library.
But today I went into a Barnes and Noble that had a wide selection of Criterion films, and they were $30-40 a pop. For one DVD. As opposed to $100/year for Filmstruck.
Most people I know prefer or at least really enjoy physical media. But companies are still insistent on "future tech" and maybe material saving?
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Ehhh, I'm a fan of dense storage and backups. That is, I like having a copy in a DVD case, another in an external HD, and if I want easy access I would set up a third copy directly on my laptop.
I dunno, maybe it's a habit from learning that my movies/books can be destroyed and wanting to have access anyway.
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Well it's certainly a clash of tones. There's Black Comedy slapstick, like when a Mafia mook is bumbling around trying to get rid of a corpse. There's also a horrifying portion set in a concentration camp.
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"hood" is supposed to be short for "hoodlum", not "neighborhood", right? The page reads very well, and I want to watch it (adding to the list of works I haven't gotten to in months).
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Yes, hoodlum.
Some of the wildest tonal shifts I've ever seen.
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Consider Mood Whiplash and Bathos entries, then.
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Burnt by the Sun, 1994 Russian winner for Best Foreign Language Film.
Pretty great examination of the Stalinist terror, as seen in one afternoon, when a long-lost relation who turns out to be working for the NKVD comes to visit a family on vacation. Realistic and sad.
Oddly, followed by a sequel that retconned the shit out of the story, resurrecting two dead characters and aging a character a good ten years older than she should have been in 1941. Huge bomb, it seems. But the original is really good.
What do you all think of the works of Terry Gilliam? Apart from the Pythons, he obviously makes works which are along the same lines as Black Mirror, and with equally great production values, so despite their "darkness" I wouldn't know if the films are really European Cinema.
(The Burnt by the Sun page image got me thinking of Gilliam, and it sounds interesting. BBTS also seems to use some postmodernist elements on top of a realistic depiction)
edited 10th Jun '18 9:35:07 AM by lakingsif
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Such as? I added context for some examples.
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- Badass Moustache: Kotov sports a pair of them. (Pair of what? Badasses? This trope is troublesome, as it's part of BOTH the Bad Ass mess and the Personal Appearence Tropes mess, and the redirect is used instead of the correct page.)
- Bath Suicide: Dimitri/Mitya at the end. (Doesn't say what happens. Do they kill the bathtub? Drink poison? Fall asleep in kool-aid?)
- Book Ends: The story ends where it began, in Mitya's apartment, but in the end he is slitting his wrists in the bathtub. (Just taking place in the same house isn't enough of a bookend. Compare/Contrast is needed.)
- Brawn Hilda: The fat lady walking on the strand asking everyone what time it is. (Doesn't establish the character is unattractive due to traditionally masculine traits.)
- Childhood Friend Romance: Mitya was a childhood friend and ex-fiancée of Marusya, until he disappeared more than ten years before the storyline. (It would be nice to know what they did to indicate childhood romance, but this technically has sufficient context.)
- Did Not Get the Girl: Although it seems like Mitya would love to resume is life with Marusya, in the end he doesn't and commits suicide. (The context given here suggests that he does get the girl, and rejects it in favour of death.)
- Energy Ball: Ball lightning◊. (Weblinks Are Not Examples)
- Fascist, but Inefficient: There's no other way to explain a military exercise that is guaranteed to destroy crops and possibly harm civilians. (Text sounds like Armed Farces Played for Drama.)
- Malevolent Mugshot: The poster◊ of Josef Stalin. (Weblinks Are Not Examples)
- Manchild: Kirik barely seems to behave his age. (Um, why would you say that?)
- Meganekko: Lyuba does have a pair of big, round glasses. (As a Clothing Reflects Personality trope, you're expected to say something about her personality as well.)
- May–December Romance: Marusya looks like she's half her husband's age, or even less. (Technically sufficient context, but establishing the different stages of life each are in would be good, because it might just be Hollywood Old.)
- Plucky Girl: Nadya. Big time. (No details on why this character is cheerful/brave. Also, I don't know what gender the name Nadya indicates.)
- The Purge: Going on in a big way in 1936, as Stalin wipes out millions. (Needs to establish why these people are being killed, even if the objective is omnicide.)
- Reign of Terror: Stalin's Great Terror, in which millions of innocent people were tortured and put to death. Often people used the Terror to settle old scores, as seen in this film. (Fails to establish regime change and which ideals were lost.)
- Running Gag: The truck driver who is lost. (Please include at least how often it repeats, preferably explain how each instance differs.)
- Tomboy: If Nadya's desire to be a pioneer when she'll grow up is any indication. (any indication... what? What is a tomboy? Are all pioneers tomboys?)
edited 11th Jun '18 12:35:58 PM by crazysamaritan
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Most of those are sufficient context. The Purge and Reign of Terror certainly do. They reference Stalin's Great Terror; if a reader does not know what those are it is not the work page's fault, it is the reader's fault. Bath Suicide has a specific meaning that does not include either killing a bathtub or drinking poison. Nadya is always a girl's name. I'll make another pass soon.
EDIT: I went back and deleted several tropes that strike me as being shoehorned and added context to others. The Purge and Reign of Terror, as I noted above, seem ok as they are to me.
edited 11th Jun '18 3:08:32 PM by jamespolk
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Examples should not depend on "what the reader knows":
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We can't write tropes to explain every tiny little thing. It is not wrong to expect a certain modicum of historical literacy; it is not wrong to expect a reader to have at least minimum knowledge that Stalin killed a lot of people in the 1930s. TV Tropes is not the place to turn an entry for The Purge into a mini-essay on the Great Terror. So I will not be adding any more context to those entries. You are welcome to do so.
Anyhoo, in other news, I expanded the work page for Leviathan, the recent Russian foreign language film nominee that I just watched. It sure is a downer. Good movie, though.
Watched a movie called Revanche, an Oscar nominee from 2008.
Austrian flick, small-time thug decides to rob a bank to rescue his hooker girlfriend from Indentured Servitude in a brothel. Naturally things go wrong, but the story after that plays out in some surprising ways.
A new week means new pages, right?
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