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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Jul 14th 2013 at 2:07:36 PM

In "Ask The Tropers", Eddie declared that indexes shouldn't indent sub tropes under their super tropes, but should be listed outright alphabetically.

Very much "NO", please. The fact is that this principle of relatedness you think would be instantly apparent doesn't work. What is an obvious "relationship" to you may be utterly opaque to someone else. Also remember that there are hundreds of thousands of editors. In that group you are bound to find people who have some pretty idiosyncratic ideas about what makes a relationship.

The good old alphabet will help people find the entry in the index list. Let's stick to it.

So this thread is where we note some indexes that improperly list tropes, and fix them.

edited 14th Jul '13 2:07:48 PM by DragonQuestZ

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SeptimusHeap from Switzerland Relationship Status: Mu
Jul 14th 2013 at 2:21:02 PM

Honestly, I do not know of many indexes that aren't alphabetical to full extent.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Jul 14th 2013 at 2:24:24 PM

[up]This is for if we find any.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Jul 14th 2013 at 2:36:45 PM

Right now I'm looking at those listed on my troper page, and there are quite a few to fix.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Jul 14th 2013 at 2:48:52 PM

Then copy the list here, please. There's no point in making a long-term projects thread that's as nebulous as this one is.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Jul 14th 2013 at 3:11:18 PM

Well I'm doing those pages myself, because I wrote them up. But I can post those that I've fixed so far. Just give me a little bit.

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Madrugada Zzzzzzzzzz Relationship Status: In season
Zzzzzzzzzz
Jul 14th 2013 at 3:25:10 PM

The primary purpose of these threads is to make a centralized place where people can find the information they need to help with ongoing projects. What you have done is said "Oh, if you see any of these please fix them." That's not what this section of the forum is really for. That's standard wiki-tidying.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Jul 14th 2013 at 3:29:39 PM

Okay, if that wasn't the way to do it. Sorry about that. On the "Ask the Tropers" discussion, after Eddie said indexes shouldn't be listed a certain way, the troper who made the query said that most indexes would need repair, and Eddie said that was true. So I assumed that would be good reason to make a thread for it.

Again, if that's not the proper way to do it here, I'm sorry about that.

Is there a proper way?

EDIT: Plus I also have some questions, such as does this apply to sub index lists, such as in Elements of Nature, or sub works, like in the Toys index.

edited 14th Jul '13 3:30:28 PM by DragonQuestZ

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crazysamaritan Could we just... not have Death anymore? from Lupin III
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Jul 16th 2013 at 4:33:31 PM

I'm not sure there is. Basically, we've just gotten a NEW rule for indexes, and most people won't know that rule. I was about to do Useful Notes, and I went, "ughhhh"; I need to open an excel document to quick-sort for me.

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DragonQuestZ The Other Troper from Somewhere in California
The Other Troper
Jul 16th 2013 at 7:26:09 PM

Well I guess this thread could start with discussing ways to spread the awareness (although I'm not sure if the rule is that new, as I've seen it elsewhere).

Although if that works, this thread might have to be moved to an appropriate section.

edited 16th Jul '13 7:26:24 PM by DragonQuestZ

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Nohbody "In distress", my ass. from Somewhere in Dixie Relationship Status: Mu
"In distress", my ass.
Jul 16th 2013 at 8:34:34 PM

Question: Does this mean that Military Science Fiction needs to be re-arranged? Right now works by the same author (some of which don't have individual work pages) are grouped together as 2nd level bullets under the author name.

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nrjxll Relationship Status: Not war
Jul 16th 2013 at 10:28:09 PM

[up]Based off of Eddie's rationale in ATT, I think this is only meant to apply to trope indexes.

MikuruFan from Away
Jul 17th 2013 at 3:39:58 AM

Last Words lists a whole bunch of tropes under Famous Last Words, which is under issue.

Text Tropes has a section on subtitles, which I think should get its own index.

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