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Today I found out an interesting fact from troper Ironeye:

Don't ever make the mistake of using the Laconic version as the canonical trope meaning—the laconics are often written by people who don't actually understand the drop. In this case, the laconic only corresponds to one possible cause of Darkness-Induced Audience Apathy.

The Laconic Description for DIAA states as follows:

The thing is, these descriptions are supposed to make it easier to understand what the page is about. If they can't be accurate as well as short and sweet, then there's a problem.

So for starters, what would be a better description for DIAA?

Edited by MacronNotes on Jan 29th 2023 at 6:23:45 AM

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#876: May 24th 2021 at 6:18:35 PM

Oh. I could've sworn they were locked to prevent the color from being undone. Must've been a relic from Locked Pages.

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#877: May 24th 2021 at 10:49:26 PM

Re: Zelda's Honor

Mod-reverted and suspended Chrononaut.

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#878: May 24th 2021 at 11:06:17 PM

If the color-coding is back, then it should be fixed on Laconic.Everything Fades, because the loss of the "super secret spoiler" white-out markup means that the last bit of the word ruins the fading illusion.

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#879: May 24th 2021 at 11:26:00 PM

Well that one's also messed with by the fact that dark mode is a thing.

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#880: May 24th 2021 at 11:36:35 PM

Yeah, it's not night-mode friendly at all.

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#881: May 24th 2021 at 11:38:19 PM

What is not?

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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#882: May 24th 2021 at 11:39:04 PM

Uh, the fading effect Mew mentioned like, five posts up.

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#883: May 25th 2021 at 11:05:44 AM

Laconic.The Witch Hunter has a very poor laconic:

Except, that isn't the trope.

From reading the trope, a witch hunter needs to be ideologically opposed to the very existence witches (or whatever magical beings they hunt) and therefore hunts them on the basis of that ideology. This makes them hard to dissuade, distract or defeat, as they'll keep on hunting for as long as their ideology drives them. I'd therefore like to propose the following:

A person whose ideology so strongly objects to the existence of witches that they become relentless hunters of those they believe to be one.

If my post doesn't mention a giant flying sperm whale with oversized teeth and lionfish fins for flippers, it just isn't worth reading.
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#884: May 25th 2021 at 11:27:19 AM

Looks good to me. [tup]

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#885: May 25th 2021 at 11:28:26 AM

Maybe it could be shortened?

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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#886: May 25th 2021 at 1:56:53 PM

Laconic for Sonic the Hedgehog (2006):

A Christmas Rushed disaster starring Sonic the Hedgehog.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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#887: May 25th 2021 at 2:04:25 PM

[up] It was changed in February from this:

The infamous 15th Anniversary title for the Sonic the Hedgehog series, involving a Damsel in Distress, Time Travel, and a hedgehog-shaped demon

It’d revert it, but leave out the “infamous” part.

Edited by jandn2014 on May 25th 2021 at 5:04:45 AM

back lol
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#888: May 25th 2021 at 2:41:26 PM

Please do, the current one is not kosher at all. And this comes from someone who had a very bad time playing that game.

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#889: May 25th 2021 at 11:33:22 PM

[up][up]"Infamous" potholed Obvious Beta. I looked on the page and I believe it should be YMMV.

Also, does the laconic for Narm match with the description?

Edited by Delibirda on May 25th 2021 at 8:34:41 PM

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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#890: May 25th 2021 at 11:35:47 PM

[up] At its core, yes.

Though personally I'd like to run Narm through TRS sometime to get a better idea of what constitutes "drama."

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#891: May 25th 2021 at 11:38:42 PM

It seems like it needs it anyway.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#892: May 26th 2021 at 9:45:29 AM

Cowboy Be Bop At His Computer’s laconic seems to believe that it is about official sources. I might have fixed it now though.

Edited by Delibirda on May 27th 2021 at 5:50:08 PM

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”
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#893: May 31st 2021 at 12:41:57 PM

Laconic.Those Wacky Nazis makes the trope sound like Adolf Hitlarious; while Laconic.Adolf Hitlarious is recursive and just links back to Those Wacky Nazis.

I recommend "Common stereotypes of the Nazis." and "Adolf Hitler and the Nazis, Played for Laughs." as replacements.

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#898: Jun 1st 2021 at 8:55:18 PM

It's also misuse of Establishing Character Moment...

How about something more like "Lisa's trip to a petting zoo convinces her that eating meat is wrong"?

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#899: Jun 2nd 2021 at 8:40:39 AM

[up][up]I support pulling it. No idea on a replacement.

[up]Good suggestion.

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Delibirda from Splatsville Since: Sep, 2020 Relationship Status: I wanna be your dog
#900: Jun 2nd 2021 at 8:43:07 AM

[up][up][tup]Clearer too.

"Listen up, Marina, because this is SUPER important. Whatever you do, don't eat th“ “DON'T EAT WHAT?! Your text box ran out of space!”

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