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SolipSchism Programmer-At-Arms from the Transcend Relationship Status: Less than three
Programmer-At-Arms
Apr 24th 2015 at 11:05:57 AM

Side note, that might be better-suited to That Reminds Me of a Song, a subtrope of BLAM in which a character (or characters) sings a song that has no plot relevance.

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Geronimo!
Apr 24th 2015 at 11:06:25 AM

BLAM specifically excludes "World Building" moments — the scene has to be completely out of context with everything else that surrounds it. Children singing in a story about children singing cannot be a BLAM, unless they break into a funky disco pop song out of nowhere.

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Zzzzzzzzzz
Apr 24th 2015 at 11:10:46 AM

For the movie or the play? According to synopses online of the stage play, Maria sings "Lonely Goatherd" to the children to comfort and distract them from their fear of a thunderstorm. (My Favorite things" comes even earlier, before Maria even leaves the convent, then reprised by the children when they learn the Captain is going to marry Elsa.)

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dsneybuf Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Apr 24th 2015 at 12:02:02 PM

I knew its context in the play, its context in the movie, and its long-term importance to the movie's script. I didn't know its long-term importance to the play's script.

edited 24th Apr '15 12:02:52 PM by dsneybuf

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Geronimo!
Apr 24th 2015 at 12:19:25 PM

Next up on our Billboard 200 countdown, The Trapp Family Singers' stirring rendition of "Whistle While I Work It"!

That would be a BLAM.

edited 24th Apr '15 12:20:14 PM by Fighteer

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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house
Apr 25th 2015 at 5:05:03 AM

This Free-Range Children example:

  • Kids: They are technically not children anymore, but they are still between the age of 12 to 17 and go to places where most sane parents would tell their offspring to stay away from, like locations where drugs are used. Only thing is... no adults are ever around.

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AnotherDuck No, the other one. from Stockholm Relationship Status: In season
No, the other one.
Apr 25th 2015 at 5:23:32 AM

It doesn't seem like it. While they technically are children, they're not pre-teen (well, most, I assume), which is what the trope specifies.

And from what I understand, they're not in a situation where they'd have parents who'd care enough. Also, the way I understand the trope, it's about where the parents let the children wander around while still being presented as parents who would care if their children went to dangerous or far-away places, or where it would otherwise be strange from a "normal" modern perspective. Street kids being street kids isn't the same thing.

edited 25th Apr '15 5:23:58 AM by AnotherDuck

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Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
Apr 25th 2015 at 7:04:49 AM

The sad fact is that, in our modern world, there are children who are unsupervised by adults and form gang-like societies amid inner cities and such. That's not what the Free-Range Children trope is supposed to be about.

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Apr 25th 2015 at 6:18:16 PM

Is it possible for tropes like Anti-Villain and Villain Protagonist to apply in a specific episode to a normally-heroic main character who sabotages and endangers others? I initially deleted the examples for not applying as a whole, but the other editor insists that they apply "in the context of the episode." (This is for a Recap page, by the way.)

Alternatively, would Temporarily a Villain be a better fit?

edited 25th Apr '15 6:22:15 PM by MrL1193

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Geronimo!
Apr 25th 2015 at 7:51:20 PM

Sounds like it. Those other tropes are not meant to apply temporarily.

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MagBas Mag Bas from In my house
Apr 25th 2015 at 8:15:15 PM

All right, thank you. The other editor agreed to put the example under Temporarily a Villain, so hopefully all will be well now.

Supreme_Bananas Relationship Status: Crazy Cat Lady
Apr 26th 2015 at 7:32:56 AM

For Baki The Grappler

I would like to add something about the stupidly muscular physique of most of the characters, but I feel like Heroic Build doesn't quite cut it, since their design is basically Rob Liefeld on steroids. It has Humanoid Abomination in the page quote, but that's more of a horror trope. Any ideas?

edited 26th Apr '15 7:34:06 AM by Supreme_Bananas

dsneybuf Relationship Status: I've been dreaming of True Love's Kiss
Apr 29th 2015 at 4:54:27 PM

It doesn't feel like enough for me to put the BLAM entry back, but I misquoted the bonus features-"The Lonely Goatherd" actually marks the second time Max hears the children sing.tongue

MarqFJA Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus
May 1st 2015 at 10:36:53 AM

Hypothetical question: Would having Multicolored Hair or Kaleidoscope Hair allow a character to qualify for multiple Hair Colors tropes, provided that they do fulfill the respective criteria of each of those tropes?

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SolipSchism Programmer-At-Arms from the Transcend Relationship Status: Less than three
Programmer-At-Arms
May 1st 2015 at 10:38:22 AM

Hypothetically, I don't see why not, but I'd like to see an example before saying for sure.

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MarqFJA Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus
May 5th 2015 at 8:44:44 AM

Some of Animal-Themed Superbeing's examples are not about superheroes or supervillains at all, such as Metal Gear Solid series's Quirky Miniboss Squads, FOXHOUND in 2 and The Beauty and the Beast Unit in 4. Do these count, or is the trope strictly superhero/supervillain-only?

edited 5th May '15 8:45:49 AM by MarqFJA

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Geronimo!
May 5th 2015 at 8:48:41 AM

The second category seems to include Badass Normal types who adopt an animal motif or name, so there is a bit of a gray line. Still, there's a difference between using an animal theme and merely picking a name based on one.

edited 5th May '15 9:04:14 AM by Fighteer

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May 5th 2015 at 9:00:20 AM

In Metal Gear Solid 4's case the 4 of them are themed after animals like Laughing Octopus has Dr Octopus like arms and can camouflage like a real Octopus.

Fighteer Geronimo! from the Time Vortex Relationship Status: Dancing with Captain Jack Harkness
Geronimo!
May 5th 2015 at 9:03:59 AM

Well, I'd say those definitely count. All of the main characters in the MGS franchise can easily qualify for Badass Normal.

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MarqFJA Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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May 5th 2015 at 3:07:15 PM

And the FOXHOUND characters in the example have more than just animal-based Theme Naming; Decoy Octopus (yes, he's one of Laughing Octopus' namesakes in-universe) is a Master of Disguise like no other, having disfigured himself heavily (he flattened his nose and has no ears) so that he can adopt the physical appearance of practically anyone you want him to, drawing allusions to the chameleonic camouflage ability of real octopuses. On the other hand, while Vulcan Raven as a soldier is "nothing" more than a giant Inuit wielding a M61 Vulcan, he is also a shaman who apparently has the raven as his (main) totem, judging by the omnipresent flock of ravens around him (which, BTW, proceed to devour every last bit of his corpse after his defeat).

The others follow similar lines; Sniper Wolf is a "lone wolf" Cold Sniper with an actual affinity for wolves, Psycho Mantis sort of evokes the appearance of a mantis with his gas mask (and one could say that the mantis is a good choice of an animal to represent supernatural powers), Revolver Ocelot... well, he and Liquid Snake seem to be the odd ones out in their group, to be honest. At least Liquid has a connection to the protagonist Solid Snake, and "Snake" is apparently the highest ranking FOXHOUND codename after "Fox" and "Big Boss". And the "Snake" codename was retconned to have a meaningful history via MGS3. About the only thing "ocelot"-y when it comes to Revolver Ocelot is that back in MGS 3, when he was just "Major Ocelot" of the Ocelot Unit, he would make a feline-sounding vocalization to call in his Ocelot Unit soldiers.

edited 5th May '15 3:09:06 PM by MarqFJA

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SolipSchism Programmer-At-Arms from the Transcend Relationship Status: Less than three
Programmer-At-Arms
May 5th 2015 at 3:58:00 PM

[up] All of that is exactly why they fit. Now the example context should say that. If it does... cool.

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MarqFJA Fiat justitia, et pereat mundus from Saudi Arabia Relationship Status: Shipping fictional characters
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May 6th 2015 at 6:15:21 AM

... It doesn't, actually. So I take it that being a superhero/supervillain is not required, only having superpowers or being a Badass Normal?

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SolipSchism Programmer-At-Arms from the Transcend Relationship Status: Less than three
Programmer-At-Arms
May 6th 2015 at 11:56:50 AM

The trope is "superbeing", not "superhero/supervillain", and the description makes it clear that Badass Normal is close enough. It seems pretty clear to me.

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