Inspired by this thread
, I've noticed that this wiki doesn't have a dedicated cleanup thread for negativity.
As we all know, Complaining About Shows You Don't Like, Creator Bashing and other negativity isn't desired on the wiki, except in a few selected areas like reviews and several Darth Wiki pages (and even then, with limitations). And yet, it's one of the most common sins wiki contributors can make.
So, if you find a page, TLP or discussion whose content seems like a straight-up insult or any other bitching - including complainy soapboxing -, you might ask here for help with removing said content.
The sandbox for this project is located at Works That Require Cleanup of Complaining.
Edited by MacronNotes on Apr 27th 2022 at 5:36:47 AM
Lots of coffee
Tried to cut down the main Cool Cat page again.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
Dakari-King Mykan has a WMG page, which is troubling. Some entries call him a troll and a sexist.
Edited by ccorb on Aug 21st 2020 at 9:10:50 AM
Rock'n'roll never dies!
Best Ogre
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I think policy says we can just cutlist that page based on being WMG for a real person.
Very Spooky
Already threw it on there.
Great job, mightymewtron! Now the description doesn't read like a tabloid article!
Just edited Jennifer Diane Reitz.
And should Quotes.Sonichu really be citing cwcwiki?
Edited by ccorb on Aug 21st 2020 at 9:40:54 AM
Rock'n'roll never dies!
Drinking Games in general attract a lot of stealth complaining, like "take a shot when X is being a jerk" or "take a shot when [annoying running gag] happens" or "On That One Level? Get an ambulance!" This is especially prominent when looking at the sandboxed works.
Edited by ccorb on Aug 21st 2020 at 9:58:30 AM
Rock'n'roll never dies!
Redmess
That is probably inherent to the drinking game trope. It is a leftover from the early days, I would guess.
Optimism is a duty.
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With works like Plan 9 from Outer Space, The Room, Action 52, and Superman 64, I feel like it would be disingenuous to sidestep their infamous reputations.
Keet cleanup
Big Catch, Sparkle Edition
It's less about sidestepping their reputations, and more about not making the entire trope page "ha-ha, look at this stupid work, it's so stupid".
My Immortal has been on my radar for a while...though at least it's more tongue-in-cheek than most.
Currently Working On: Incorruptible Pure Pureness
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Plan 9's description is pretty long and rambly, and Superman 64 could use some cleanup. The other two look fine to me.
Keet cleanup
Honestly, I’m starting to think that this bit in Tropes Are Tools isn’t helping matters.
It’s basically saying it’s okay to dunk on bad shows.
Edited by PlasmaPower on Aug 21st 2020 at 12:00:35 PM
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I would like to nominate Marville for the sandbox. Several of the examples (such as the Cannot Tell Fiction from Reality one) are specific things that were brought up in the Atop the Fourth Wall videos on the series.
Maybe we should take that to Outdated Pages.
That's a good candidate for the sandbox. I read the page, and it seems like it was written by Linkara fans.
Edited by ccorb on Aug 21st 2020 at 11:08:48 AM
Rock'n'roll never dies!
Should we add Foodfight! to the sandbox? It still seems a bit complainy.
Where is Outdated Pages?
Edited by PlasmaPower on Aug 21st 2020 at 12:08:02 PM
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Looks like it's a relic of old TVT — judging from the page history, it's been there since at least 2010.
Edited by Twiddler on Aug 21st 2020 at 8:07:35 AM
On Wiki Talk.
Lots of coffee
I don't think a little bit of snark is bad if the work is only known for being bad, to be honest. Like putting a meme in the caption or something (hence why I left a few memey bits on the Cool Cat page). But if it overtakes the entire page then it gets aggravating.
I do some cleanup and then I enjoy shows you probably think are cringe.
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I've added Yandere Simulator to the sandbox. It's been very well overshadowed by controversy, and at least while I was on the page it seemed like every edit to the YMMV page was someone posting drama relating to the developer or someone removing said drama.
Sounds good on paper (he/him)
I removed that part of Tropes Are Tools per the Outdated Pages discussion. (The page wasn't locked; I'm assuming the lock icon appeared due to a glitch.)
Patiently awaiting the release of Paper Luigi and the Marvelous Compass.
Remember also that reception of the work, for the most part, is not allowed on the main page, unless it's something very significant. So you can trim a lot of snark from just that alone.
But that can only go so far. Any description of The Room, for example, would be incomplete without a discussion of the ironic following it developed.
Right... but is it right to have a large paragraph saying Sonic '06's Knights and Knaves puzzle is stupid (both on the work and trope pages)?
Rock'n'roll never dies!
It should be noted that My Immortal is an intentionally So Bad, It's Good Troll Fic. As such, I feel that bashing it is harmless. I'm more troubled by those entries (at least they existed in the past; haven't checked the page recently) that seem to think that it's trying to be a serious story.
Edited by DoktorvonEurotrash on Aug 22nd 2020 at 7:43:54 AM
Edited by ccorb on Aug 21st 2020 at 8:53:23 AM
Rock'n'roll never dies!