Trope Description Improvement Drive

I was told this was way too lengthy and detailed, so I should bring it here. I wanted to have the False Rape Accusation page unlocked to add a warning to readers. Also, this is a direct copy and paste from the Television is trying to kill us all warning so maybe there could be changes.

"Far more rapes go unreported than falsely-reported. Furthermore, a 'false report' doesn't necessarily mean that whoever reported it was lying. It could be a case of mistaken identity, and victims of sexual trauma don't always react in the stereotypical Broken Bird manner. And trauma has a way of scrambling or partially blocking out memories, especially in cases where there's a long time between when the event actually happened, and when it was reported. The result of this is that many victims aren't believed, and only a small percentage of rapists will even go to jail."

I was directed here by a kind troper.

While checking on the tropes for A-Team Firing, I found a massive starting description that somehow starts to verge on the story of firearms for some reason??? So I'm asking how should I start to clean it up.

Seems like much of that belongs on an Analysis page. The trope page should focus on how it's used in fiction.

This passage in Medieval Prehistory's description is problematic:

All fictional works are "set in fictional universes with their own histories and timelines", so it's pointless to use that as a reason for why the trope "technically does not fit". Furthermore, yet another case of the "overlap = sometimes a subtrope" misunderstanding.

Any objections to removing the part in the parantheses and tweaking the rest?

On a different note, I never did get a clear answer for this (which follows from this).

I think it's trying to distinguish between works that are clearly fantasy, or a fantastic version of history, from those that give the impression of being historical fiction while taking liberties. But I agree it's not helpful, since Anachronism Stew covers both, it should go. And I agree it's overlap rather than subtrope.

About United Europe, I could see some of that description moved to an Analysis page.

RE United Europe: Which parts?

Really, everything from the second paragraph onwards except for the one about Britain is about the real thing rather than its treatment in fiction. It could be condensed into a single paragraph and "See the Analysis page for current status of the European Union, its history and prospects" added. I could try to do myself when I have time, but it won't be today.

In other news, I came across Flintstone Theming and its description has changed little since its launch in 2010, and it shows. It has snark ("Worldbuilding is sometimes hard. Coming up with an endless string of bad puns based on the concept of your show, on the other hand, is usually pretty easy."). It praises The Flintstones as doing this right. But a deeper problem is that the description implies this is about the whole world of the show, but many entries are about a lot of themed puns from one character (Squid Girl), or a restricted Planet of Hats (Doctor Who's Cybermen). Will this need TRS?

I'll try my hand at tweaking United Europe's description, and let you (or someone else) refine the result when you get the time.

Do you think there should be a message on Inspirationally Disadvantaged telling people to not add aversions so it doesn't turn into a list of every disabled character in fiction?

I mean, is that a common problem the trope has?

Per Averted Trope, people shouldn't be adding aversions anyways and any that you see on the page can be removed, with the troper who wrote it notified.

Here's the relevant discussion, if you're wondering.

Following on from discussion on ATT and the Is this an example? thread:

Battle Aura is a subtrope of Power Glows and applies when a character's displaying combat power.

If a character's surrounded by a colored haze because they're angry or sad, but it's not a battle/power thing, that's a Living Mood Ring scenario instead.

Nothing on the Battle Aura page intro mentions that, though - mind if I add a cross reference?

It could help, the two look similar but are distinct in purpose.

How's that?

Edited by Mrph1 on Feb 7th 2023 at 11:40:43 AM

Looks fine to me.

Except Living Mood Ring isn't about a character's (outer) aura but their physical appearance. Only like this character◊ from Assassination Classroom.

I wouldn't link to LMR because it'll cause confusion/misuse. Should I remove the LMR mention but still leave the clarification that if it manifests due to emotions it's not this trope?

Would Color-Coded Emotions work better?

LMR specifically mentions glowing, though?

"This often takes the form of changing colors, such as in the tone of a person's skin or in glowing effects."

Yeah, this one is a good addition, though it has nothing to do with auras.

Yes, but an outer aura and glowing are two different things.

Anyway, yes to the clarification, but no to the use of the word "aura" is my point. I might make a trope about auras comically manifesting due to emotions in the future.

But then Battle Aura also starts by talking about warriors who can "emit a coruscating, Kirlian-like glow", which may be visible to everyone.

How about this?

I think that's good.

Looks good to me, but if 'glowing' really isn't relevant to one or both tropes, I think we should probably rephrase that part of the description as well?

Glowing is relevant since a lot of the examples of Battle Aura mention it and the same with LMR but I didn't know how to add it. Any ideas?