Removing Gushing from the Wiki

Cleaned up the main description and YMMV page for Labyrinth, and ditched the quote. Does that look better?

We should find a better fitting quote, though.

I rewrote the Tetris Effect description again to be even less gushy. Is it sufficient?

Is gushing allowed in Haikus? Haiku.The Loud House has "Nick redeemed themselves" and Haiku.Scooby Doo Mystery Incorporated describes it as "the best" Scooby-Doo series.

I'm inclined to say no. Especially that first one is also kind of backhanded.

Today I Die has had a gushy description for ages.

Just cut that whole blurb up to "Need a tissue?" unless it's a deliberate reference to the game or something. All that white space is also pretty annoying.

Did so!

Cancelling my hiatus early to bring up these examples I wrote a while ago for Genre Turning Point:

• The Beastie Boys further changed Hip-Hop with their 1989 sophomore album Paul's Boutique. Initially selling poorly and receiving a lukewarm reception from fans due to how different it was from its predecessor, the album grew in critical acclaim as the years went on and is now seen as a contributor in the development and explosion of sampling in Hip-Hop with its use of samples to create a lush, borderline psychedelic sound to back up the Beasties' rapping. Today, the album is considered to be a hip-hop masterpiece and one of the best albums the Beastie Boys have ever made, and a stunning example of what was possible with sampling in Hip-Hop before its use was restricted following a 1991 court ruling mentioned below.
• Speaking of Aphex Twin, his 1992 debut album Selected Ambient Works 85-92 contributed further to the development of IDM, as explained in this article. Its distinctive mix of calming Ambient music with a foreboding creepiness created a sound that, as described by the aforementioned article, made it more electronic than previous ambient albums such as The Orb's Adventures Beyond the Ultraworld or Chill Out by The KLF. This unique sound would later influence other acts in the IDM genre, and the album is today seen as one of the best Electronic Music albums of the entire 1990's, one which launched the long, successful, and innovative career of Aphex Twin.

I think I may have made them too gushy when I wrote them. Help with making them less gushy?

Bringing this up again: The current description for Calvin and Hobbes goes really overboard in terms of gushing. I LOVE the strip too, but by the wiki's standards it does feel too far.

Edited by harryhenry on Jan 30th 2021 at 7:55:46 AM

I would say, cut the part about it being THE most successful comic strip of all time, and maybe also the paragraph about everyone trying to copy Peanuts. Also, the image caption is a bit too gushy, but that should be taken to the Caption Repair Thread.

Edited by Lindo-Honorindo on Jan 30th 2021 at 7:00:01 AM

Any thoughts on the entries I brought up? Or should I try to rewrite them myself?

I went to check in on the pre-release troping for Balan Wonderworld, and it looks like Falsefortuneteller is getting rather defensive of the game. Noticeably, they removed a reference to some of the game's power-ups disabling jumping while calling it a complaint, despite the wording being pretty objective. They also altered the Tainted by the Preview on the YMMV page to blame players for not being okay with the design choice due to a more intuitive design choice not technically being indicated in previous trailers, along side a rather rude edit reason. I sent a rudeness notifier, but there's a good chance our timezones won't line up for me to see them respond right away.

I know that's the point of Sugar Wiki pages, but the description for AwesomeMusic.Friday Night Funkin feels like a bit too much:

Surprisingly, Sanjay and Craig is quite gushy, calling the show "extremely underrated" and ranting about the show's negative reception near the end of the description.

I noticed this paragraph in Astro Boy: Omega Factor is kind of stealth gushy, but also stealth complainy at the end:

Despite excellent reviews, this game was mostly passed over for the Playstation 2 game developed by Sonic Team and this fell into obscurity. However, those who did play the game loved it. The Astro Boy game for the Nintendo DS based on the American CGI film is inspired by this one, but unfortunately, it is widely considered to be inferior in every aspect.

Work reception shouldn't go on the description so that whole thing can be cut.

Is the "face-meltingly awesome" part of Starbomb's description a reference to something or just editorializing?

A quick google search turned up just that page, so it can safely be cut.

Seems like MLPFIM qualifies for this project.

MLP has its own dedicated cleanup thread.

Creator.Don Rosa can get really gushy at times, especially in the description. Examples: "Widely regarded as one of the best things that ever happened to Disney comics", "had executive power over the Duck family canon, and brought the world some seriously great Arc Welding in the process", "For those who consider Disney comics childish stories for five-year-olds, Rosa's style of making comics may be a surprise". Also a "cue Tear Jerker" line after mentioning the post announcing his retirement from comics, which I just removed.

Edited by harryhenry on Feb 20th 2021 at 8:29:08 AM

I mean, it's not wrong. He was absolutely transformative for Duck comics. He did effectively have executive power over Duck canon, and many, if not most artists still look to tie their work into his canon specifically. And his work did involve some serious arc welding of previous material, mainly Barks' work, who laid the groundwork for the Duck universe. And yes, I would say Rosa is a great example of how comics, and Duck comics in particular, can be more than just childish stories for small kids that adults can enjoy just as much.

Sometimes, the praise really is justified.

It sounds more like a review and less like an article, though.

To be clear, I'm not disputing his achievements. But there's a difference between just stating his influence and going into outright gushing, like the current page does. There are some prominent Duck comic fans who hate his influence on the series, and the page itself notes that even Carl Barks thought Rosa went too far with that Arc Welding you mention. I obviously don't wanna turn the page into an outright bash-fest, but I think toning that gushing down would be the right approach.

Edited by harryhenry on Feb 23rd 2021 at 9:27:06 AM

Yes, that's true, you can tone it down a bit.