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    Morticians and Detectives 

  • Are morticians usually allowed to sit in on and ask questions during police interviews/interrogations? Or is that particular police precinct just exceptionally bad at enforcing their own rules?
    • They're not, but Clive and Liv usually do it when no one else is looking, and just let suspects assume that she's a detective.
    • Well, it's a good thing there are no morticians on this show, only medical examiners. And this is hardly the first crime show to have medical examiners participate in interrogations.
    • Would her being "psychic" have anything to do with why they allow her in? I'm pretty sure it would.
    • As recent episodes demonstrate, it is something of a point of contention among the precinct.
    • As demonstrated in the Capetown episode, it is unusual (ta "strange relationship" as Clive puts it.) The way he makes it sound, it's not exactly against the rules, but not exactly by-the-book either.
    • One could argue that she is acting as a "consultant" independent of her job as a medical examiner, similar to how Elementary has Sherlock act as a consultant and constantly participate in interrogations. She does frequently lend her "psychic" powers to the investigation, so perhaps that's just enough to allow some Loophole Abuse.
    • Clive closes cases. An obscene amount for a homocide detective. At the end of the day that is all his bosses care about. If you have ever watched the Wire, homocide is about turning red cases (unsolved) into black cases (solved). Who cares if he needs the help of an assistant medical examiner?

    Clive and Convictions 

  • Clive, during questioning, sometimes very strongly implies that the person being questioned is going to go to prison for their actions, no matter what. Now, it so happens that they are all guilty, but there are two things wrong here. 1: Clive (or the show) seems to be conflating "indictment" with "conviction". 2: Clive is not actually allowed to do that. Such behavior would almost certainly count as pressuring the suspect into confessing; even if it isn't, it's risky enough that he should know not to do it.
    • As below, Empty Cop Threats are a common trope in cop shows. Annoying and unrealistic, but common enough that viewers are used to it, and necessary for a Victim of the Week format.

    Questioning Suspects 

  • Clive and Liv routinely question people, with no one else in the room. In addition to everything else wrong there, at least some of those questionings/interviews/interrogations should have been in a situation where the suspect would have Right to Counsel. Even in the cases where this isn't the case, many of the people Liv and Clive interview are fairly wealthy; they should definitely have gotten an attorney as soon as they were brought in. Are the Seattle PD not reading people their rights? Because if not, that's some serious Fridge Horror.
    • Presumably, they're doing the whole "reading the rights" routine off-screen to save screentime, as they have quite a few plots going on here (the Victim of the Week, the Blaine Story Arc, the burgeoning relationship between Liv and Lowell, Major's troubles). And yes, they do all have the right to counsel, but it's on the person being questioned to invoke that right. So basically, the answer is that the show wants us to accept that not one person has asked for their lawyer (which is dumb, but there it is).
    • This seems like a cop show genre convention more than anything else. Only Bad Guys Call Their Lawyers. The good guys can do anything to suspects short of physically assaulting them. Innocent suspects lie to or mislead the police for their own reasons in ways that send the investigation down false trails. It's not good police work or law, but it's necessary to have a lot of tense confrontations and still wrap things up in a single episode. I don't watch all that many cop shows, but two I'm familiar with are Castle and Broadchurch, and iZombie seems no worse about this stuff than they are.
    • You only need to read someone their rights if you've actually arrested them, not if you've just asked them to answer a few questions, even if one of the questions ends up being "You realize we've got enough evidence to put you away, right?" Now, someone can still refuse to answer your questions without a lawyer present, or just refuse to answer your questions period, but a) if they think the police just want to ask them some general fact-finding questions, immediately lawyering up could make them look suspicious, and b) most people don't have a criminal attorney they can call up on a moment's notice, and, until they've been officially arrested, the government isn't required to provide them with one.


  • Where does Major get all his money? Social workers don't make huge amounts of money, and neither do college football players; so how can he afford all his weapons to kill zombies? For that matter, how does he have his own (fairly large) house?
    • One-Hour Work Week. As for how it actually works in this case... His finances have been discussed; crappy health insurance is the reason he didn't go to a hospital after some of his fights and part of why he didn't stay in the mental institution long. On the positive side, it helps that he has Ravi as a roommate, who we know has a job. I also don't think we've been told where the house came from - maybe it was in the family? Maybe he and Liv bought it together while they were engaged and she's still paying part of the mortgage? As for his shopping, he hasn't actually bought too much that we know of, and he may very well be in debt if he regards his current investigation as important enough.
    • The house was bought by Liv and Major when they were engaged, then Liv moved out and Major needed a roommate to help with the cost.
    • We know that Ravi brought his own big screen TV with him when he moved in, so that means Major might have a spare TV and some other household items he could sell for some quick cash.

     Unnoticed Albinism 
  • Why do none of Liv's family question her sudden Albinism?
    • Same reason most don't assume she's albino: They assume it's a questionable fashion choice. They just think she's dyed her hair white and avoided the sun, or became a Goth/punk/emo/etc.
      • It helps that they think she has some kind of PTSD from the Lake Washington Massacre.

     Keeping the Z-thing from Eva and Evan 
  • While I get that Liv doesn't want her family to know she's a zombie for the obvious reasons, when she can't share her blood, why doesn't she claim to have contracted a disease transferred blood-to-blood? Like, her family know she was attacked at the boat party, why not claim that when she was attacked she contracted HIV or something along those lines? It'd allow her to talk to them about her zombie problems without outright saying she's a zombie, explain why she can't donate blood, and give her an excuse for a lot of her past behaviour. It's a very easy explanation that isn't actually untrue and would explain everything away.
    • It's not a horrible idea, but it does have problems, starting with the fact that her mother would insist on getting her medical care. Liv can't claim Ravi is doing it, because he's an ME, not a hematologist. It would cause more problems as Liv tries to dodge doctors, and it would all devolve into "You're doing drugs, aren't you?" again pretty quickly. Plus, Liv just doesn't like lying to her family. She prefers to avoid the issue altogether. She even tells Ravi she could have told her mom she was on drugs, but she didn't.
    • I've been telling my husband this the whole time. It'd have to be a huge circle jerk of lies but it could work.
      1. She says she got a communicable disease during the boat party incident. This meant she couldn't work with the living anymore so she got a job at the medical examiners with the dead where she couldn't hurt anyone.
      2. Losing her dream job and knowing she was facing with what could be a long slow death caused her depression and knowing she could accidentally infect Major caused her to break things off with him which also fed her depression.
      3. The disease affects her skin and hair which is why despite the rarity of her condition the rapid physical changes that accompany it make it easily identifiable and is the reason why it hasn't spread as rapidly as something like HIV
      4. She's gotten happier recently because she learned that Ravi worked for the CDC and they've gotten a special grant to research her condition giving her hope for a cure.
      5. Her shame and depression is the reason she hasn't told anyone yet as well as hoping to avoid the stigma of being sick.
    • The only problem as mentioned is her mother. Specifically she is also a doctor and would probably like the name of the disease although Ravi might know one that's close enough to fit the bill that she's wouldn't question it too much. If she knows that Liv is receiving medical care and "transfusions" to keep her healthy as well as participating in a study for a cure she might back off.
    • Another factor is , well what actions her mother take. She finds out that Liv is living with a condition that forces her to feed off human brains? Mother mode takes over and she quarantines Liv, she contacts the CDC and every medical expert and virus expert in the world to find a cure. Taking every and any course to save her daughter. End result, if no cure found Liv spends the rest of her life in CDC quarantine. Then the military gets involved, super strong unkillable soldiers that can gain enemy intelligence by eating enemy soldiers? A Military and Covert Operations wet dream . Then a new arms race starts over zombie super soldiers. She tells her slacker brother, one wrong word. Mommy dearest finds out and all of the above happens.
      • They're not unkillable, obviously. And they're only super strong if they hulk out.
      • They are more bullet proof then regular soldiers save a head shot. Heal faster, resistant to harm and able to absorb intel and skills from enemy combatants. In short easily made super soldiers.
    • Eva might well decide that Evan getting HIV is preferable to him, you know, dying. With anti-retrovirals, he could live a happy, if circumscribed, life. As far as Eva knew, Evan was going to die right then.

     Risking the Zombie Detector 
  • Max Rager, trying to clean up their accidental zombification of hundreds of people, discovers that Major is a zombie detector, and can confirm whether the suspected victims were actually zombified by their product. Why risk this unique (as far as they know) asset as a zombie assassin? Why not tell him that they need him to help identify the zombies for public safety or treatment or something benign, then "disappear" them later, using an actual professional? I get that they wanted to acquire additional blackmail hooks for Major, but they didn't really need to blackmail him at all.
    • The CEO initially thought that he could convince Major to work for him out of a sense of duty; when that didn't work he tried blackmail, then threatening Liv. He just doesn't understand Major enough to think to use that trick. As for risking Major, remember that they have a spare in Blaine (they had Liv bugged for a while, so they have to know about him unless they're complete idiots). So with that in mind, using Major as both detector and executioner keeps the number of people involved at a minimum. He's ultimately someone they don't really care about and don't need. If he gets killed and they can't or won't use Blaine for whatever reason, they just go back to the original plan of killing everyone on the list.
    • Let's also remember that they know Major is an accomplished zombie killer, and has enough skills to be effective at doing so. If they used Blaine they might have opted to have someone else do the killing, but Major had the skill set for both jobs, meaning less people they need to pay/worry about leaking info.
    • Besides, Major can be trusted if given the right incentives - his selfless/Chronic Hero nature is apparent to Vaughn and Rita. So they threaten Liv, and he falls in line, like they thought he would. Blaine, however, is way too self-interested and unpredictable to be a viable zombie killer, because while Major would (if begrudgingly) comply, Blaine would scheme and scam and bite Vaughn in the ass eventually. All that said, using a professional and lying to Major just risks Major finding out (and he would, given the high-profile nature of some of the targets) he's been lied to, and might get vengeful - given that he is the only viable zombie detector, better to use him directly and increase the amount of control over him.
    • Not only that, Blaine is a bona fide cold-hearted killer. With connections and hired thugs. If they tried to threaten him or use Blaine, he would have no problem killing Vaughn, his daughter, their scientists and any other threat and serve their brains to his customers with a side of greens and a complimentary beer.
    • Also, since they plan on killing Major after he's done, this makes cleaning house easier.

     The High Price of Brains 
  • Though it was possibly just one of Don E's many questionable decisions while running the Shady Plots operation, or just an attempt to extort Liv, if human brains cost $25,000 a month, one would think that the exceedingly wealthy victims of the brain racket would realize it must be cheaper to get the brains by bribing a different unwary funeral director to look the other way, or even (in the long run) just purchasing a funeral home themselves.
    • Thing about getting them by bribing people is that, funeral directors will either refuse to do so on moral grounds unless they offer enough money to make them agree to it (which would probably mean paying them more than what they pay Blaine), or if they agree to it, they're probably morally bankrupt enough to realize that they can blackmail the person over it (which, again, would probably be more costly than going to Blaine). As for buying a home themselves, it's likely a very big investment and would require them to be hands-on in the process to get access to the brains. Either way, the only practical options are stay with Blaine or dig up graves, which we know Lowell tried it, and it was a highly traumatic experience for him.
      • Remember, these are rich folks. Blaine specifically targeted them so he could charge 25 grand a pop. If they're eating one brain a week, that's $1.3 million a year. You can't argue that that's more practical than buying a funeral home of their own. They don't have to run it themselves, either; they could pay someone, possibly a zombie, a fat salary to do the hands-on stuff.
      • They would also have to pay for private security to guard their new funeral home and themselves against Blaine's inevitable retaliation, as well as accountants who can make all these expenses seem legitimate. All of these people would have to be turned to zombies or at least paid a lot to make sure that they keep their mouths shut. Basically, with Blaine around making sure that he has a monopoly on the brain supply, any attempt to circumvent him would mean forming another brain-trafficking cartel, which is something that the upstanding citizens that he targets probably don't have the skills, connections or even willingness to do.
    • Getting brains from Blaine gives them a sense of normalcy. With his deal, they don't have to think about themselves as human-chowing monsters, they're just mysteriously pale people on a foodie diet. No need to see or touch corpses, brains cleverly disguised in fancy meals, and no need to face facts about being a zombie. If you can afford it, paying extra for denial seems pretty appealing.
  • My problem is with Captain Izuki. He knows that Liv is a zombie, working in the morgue, and never once thinks that he can go to her to get out from under Blaine's thumb.
    • By the time he found out that Liv was a Zombie he was on the hook with Blaine and was already covering up his murders. When he was originally infected he thought he had no options so Blaine had control over him. By the time he found out that was an option, that there were alternatives it was too little too late. He had already helped cover the murder of innocent teenagers in order to stay fed and stay sane.

     Zombie Emotions 
  • As seen in the episode in Season 1 where Liv eats the brain of an artist and promptly becomes incredibly attracted to his mistress, just like he was, technically, shouldn't that be the same for everyone else? As in, Liv can feel how the victim felt about their spouse, children, friends etc. They've only really used that facet once.
    • Different brains produce different effects. Normally, it's just one or two of their strongest personality traits, with the occasional skill as a bonus. The artist had a huge zest for life and love of female beauty, so Liv got that. They also used it another time from a different direction: When Liv ate the mother's brain, not only did she become motherly in general, but she became super protective of the baby. She even referred to it in narration as "our baby."

     Two headscratchers in the episode "Abra Cadaver" 
  • There are two things in "Abra Cadaver" that seem to have no proper explanation:
    1. Based on the hotel's surveillance tapes, Babineaux knows that the maid was the only person to enter Syd Wicked's room before his death. It's also made clear that Babineaux doesn't believe in magic, so he wouldn't think someone just magically appeared in the room and killed Wicked. Shouldn't the maid then be the cops' number one suspect, even if she has no apparent motive for the murder? Shouldn't they be taking her to the station and grilling her, instead of letting her just slip away?
    2. Apparently Meers has always been a woman dressed up as man. Now, the magician duo of Smoak and Meers seem to be famous enough to get a documentary made of them, so they must've been around for years. But it's never explained why Meers decided to be a man to begin with? It's quite convenient that she just happens to be a cross-dresser, which allows her to kill Wicked without becoming a suspect.
    • Babineaux doesn't like magic, but he's not pretending magicians aren't legitimately skilled tricksters. Dodging cameras somehow isn't exactly difficult. As for the maid, she pulled a con and they fell for it. They believed that she was just some innocent traumatized girl who had stumbled on a body, so they let her go. There's an old legend that assassins are always the one to "discover" the body of their victim, as it does wonders for diverting suspicion if you do it right. And finally, Meers' crossdressing would be extremely useful in all sorts of normal tricks. Like that other magician who disappeared, then came on stage in disguise and asked the audience what happened. It just gives the pair plenty of options.
      • Not just a legend; cops are supposed to at least consider the person who finds the body as a potential suspect, at least until they can rule it out. There was a murder case at my uni where the cops traumatized and ruined the life of some poor shmuck they thought was the murderer, and surprise, the guy who found the body (well, pointed out to the RA that there was a smell coming from the victim's dorm room) was the murderer. Big screw-ups down the line, and one was that they didn't even look at the guy even though that's considered standard.
    • As far as Meers cross-dressing, magic is a heavily male-dominated field, so she might have started cross-dressing to get a leg up.

     Conflicting Explanations for the Origin of the Zombie Plague? 
  • While researching zombies, Ravi says that their state is caused by a virus, and this certainly seems to be the case, since it can transmit via contact with blood or via intercourse. But it's also implied, and finally confirmed in "Salivation Army", that zombies are created when someone takes a mixture of Utopium and Max Rager. Since both of these are synthetic substances, they have nothing to do with viruses... So what is the real cause of zombieism then? If it's the chemical mixture, where did the virus come from?
    • The Utopium was cut with an unknown substance. Presumably, the secret ingredient contains a virus that is modified by the drug and the sports drink. Alternatively, the boat party Utopium causes amino acids in Max Rager to spontaneously assemble into a viable zombie virus.
    • The "unknown substance" is pretty clearly key. Probably a virus (either natural or man-made) that's supercharged by the Max Rager.
    • But in "Salivation Army" we see some people take regular Utopium (it can't be the cut version, because the guy who cut it had died long before that) and Max Rager, and this turns them into zombies. And Ravi was able to create his zombie rats without the cut Utopium too. So where did the mystery virus come from in those cases?
    • The employee got the Utopium from the bodies Max Rager recovered from the boat party. He says so right before they use it. Don't recall where Ravi got the original sample, but a major plot point of season 2 is trying to find more tainted Utopium for him to experiment with.
    • I wonder if the virus was released into the general population, or at least a virus, which the utopium/Max Rager combination somehow alters or activates.
    • I vaguely recall Ravi mentioning something about a latent virus buried in junk dna. The drug/drink combo causes the virus to reemerge. And its apparently anchient enough to originate from befrre human's and rat's last common ancestor.


     The End of "Eternal Sunshine of the Caffeinated Mind" 
  • Okay, so The Bad Guy Wins. The owner's daughter gets away with murder. Great, except it doesn't make any damn sense. She shows up literally moments after her boyfriend agrees to give her up. The only way she could have gotten there that fast is if she was already on her way to the police station before he decided to confess. And unless one of the cops told her (which would make no sense, as they wouldn't want her to know she was a suspect), she didn't know he was being questioned. Basically, this ending only works if she had a psychic vision that told her what was going to happen.
    • Surely she heard he was arrested, which would make her concerned about him giving her up.

     Why Can't Zombies Eat Animal Brains? 
  • I can't recall this to ever be brought up in series, but is there a reason zombies can't subsist on animal brains? It seems like this never got mentioned or brought up, just implied that zombies can only survive on human brains based on them only eating that throughout the series. Blaine's business would have never held up if zombies could just get by on eating pig or cow brains. They might have to go to specialty shops to acquire animal brains for consumption, but people do already eat them. They'd be much cheaper and less suspicious. It's possibly also a lot less of a mind screw to get animal memories than human ones. Plus, people naturally have an aversion to cannibalism, so animal brains would be more appealing.
    • Well, Liv woke up craving brains, I mean specifically knowing that's what she wanted. Looking at a human and wanting to crack his skull open to find the chewy center yet having no interest in any animals would be a clue. I would imagine she at least tried animal brains in the six months between the attack and the start of the show.

     Liv's culinary skills 
  • Every week, we see Liv preparing her brains in very intricate ways. How exactly did a medical resident learn how to cook such elaborate dishes?

    Amount of brain needed for a Zombie 
  • Blaine tells Mr. Boss that a single brain can sustain a zombie for a month, but the amount of brain Liv uses in her meals seem that will easily take a brain for week, in a three meals a day plan. Blaine also told Suzuki in the first season that he would crack a few skulls per week to keep himself well fed. So, how many brains do a zombie actually need to keep themselves from going Romero? A few per week or one a month?
    • The 'crack a few skulls' thing is possibly just hyperbole/exaggeration, especially since Blaine got really into the 'big bad' thing. In either case, we've seen Zombies can last a while without a brain, but the effects are really uncomfortable and leave them in a horrible state, which might depend on how much they'd eaten prior. Its possible one could last a month with one brain, if they space their meals, though they probably won't feel 'well fed' doing it that way and for the sake of not feeling hungry, would prefer to have at least a brain a week.
      • We also saw this with Jackie - despite being supplied with brains by Blaine she was in enough of a state that the thought of a delay of less than an hour for the delivery boy to go retrieve her brain was enough to turn her homicidal.

    No Eavesdropping 
  • Liv and Rabi discuss Z-things during casual walks to crime scenes or just on crime scenes where all other experts and staff are presented around. Liv and Clive discuss private matters of cases outside of the precinct.
    • Refuge in Audacity. Even if somebody overhears them, they're talking about zombies. Clearly they must be discussing some work of fiction. Note this is pretty much exactly why Vaughn Du Clark is able to get so much intel on them, they don't think to hide what they're talking about.

    Morgue is a public place 
  • Blaine and other bad guys casually go to morgue without any suspicions through the main entrance despite it's situated under precinct. They might try Bavarian Fire Drill there, but Blaine appearing covered in blood, dirt and blanket certainly wouldn't qualify for that. Ravi actually fought there with bad guys at least two times and none has come to help. Later it's shown that the morgue actually has delivery entrance which opens to back-alley and could be far more convenient way for not-so-legal visitors. Though the latter seems to be the case of saving the budget by using limited set.
    • The series is actually mentioned in Swiss Cheese Security, it isn't mentioned on show's own page, however.

    How to get a secret out of someone who can't keep a secret 
  • In "Brainless in Seattle: Part 2," Blaine tracks down one of Renegade's former clients for information on her. This guy's requisite quirk is that he is loose-lipped with no verbal filter to speak of. So what does Blaine do? He cures the guy's zombieism, kills him and eats his brain to gain his memories. It seems to me that there would be far simpler ways to get information out of a loose-lipped person that wouldn't involve murder or wasting one of only sixteen cures. Is Blaine just so committed to being a total asshole that it didn't even cross his mind to just get some wine into the guy and ask him where Renegade's operation was located?
    • Blaine was desperate to get Chase off his back. Rationality wasn't at the top of his priority list. His options were try and convince the guy to talk and not lie, or kill him, eat his brain and get an definite answer. Plus it's Blaine, he has no issue committing murder to get what he wants.

    About that time Blaine ate a zombie's brain... 
  • In "Brainless in Seattle: Part 2", Blaine's final vision is one of a zombie, Mama Leone, scratching whoever's brain Blaine ate to cure his Parkinsons. Of course, this implicitly turns him into a zombie. Blaine seems to have no ill effects and I don't recall this being mentioned. This begs many questions, particularly how was Blaine sated by said brain, and how did they even get the brain out intact?
    • Blaine cured him first. He confirms it in Brainless In Seattle, Part 2.
    • Anthony's a moral person. He refuses to betray Renegade in exchange for the cure for Zombieism. He's chatty but not a snitch and refuses to tell others secrets. He's also been tortured before. "The VC didn't get jack from me in Nam and you won't be getting anything either."

     Candy turning into a zombie 
At the end of "Eternal Sunshine of the Caffeinated Mind", Candy turns into a zombie after sleeping with Blaine even though he hasn't yet reverted to his zombie state yet (though he does later that night). Meanwhile, Major has slept with a human around the same time and she doesn't turn into a zombie even though the two got the cure not even a day apart and he doesn't revert for another couple of episodes.
  • Blaine had already shown subtle symptoms of being in the process of reverting to a zombie though, namely having an altered sense of taste. By then the virus had likely already multiplied in his bodily fluids enough to be contagious. Major shows the same symptoms, complaining that the milk's gone bad, a decent amount of time after having had sex

     What is it with all the zombie racism? 
People like Dolly Durkings seem to go against zombies less because they worry they are just like the ones in the movies and more because they are just irrational bigots.

     Chaos Killer hate 
Major was cleared for the crimes he was accused of, more so most of the chaos killer victims were found alive and that's well documented with a cover story that they were kidnapped by a company. Why is Major still widely hated by the public if his so called victims aren't even dead? I can imagine one or two loonies still going after him but to be a public pariah for killing people who are publicly alive it's a bit silly.
  • When it comes to media influenced outrage, the facts are rarely all that relevant to a lot of people. It's where we get the phrase "trial by media" where people get metaphorically crucified for crimes before they've even gone to trial. The story of a serial killer being unmasked is a much more salacious and ratings-grabbing one than "Oh, turns out he didn't kill anybody and there's no actual story to be found here". Plus, once people make up their minds to be angry about something, it can be really, really hard to get them to change their minds, even if given evidence that contradicts them. A lot of people would probably calk the retraction up to "fake news" rather than admit they jumped the gun.


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