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Fridge Brilliance

  • Why does Peter think that acting like Emo!Peter will make him cool? Two reasons: the first is that he's possessed by an alien with no concept of what humans consider cool or attractive, the second is that Peter himself doesn't know what others consider cool or attractive. When the symbiote pushes him, Peter instinctively latches onto his preconceptions and reinvents himself in that direction.
  • Many people have mocked Peter's "emo" phase when the symbiote is gaining influence over him. But actually, during this sequence Peter is displaying the classic symptoms of a manic episode. Check 'em: an inflated sense of confidence, sexual aggressiveness, physical aggressiveness, and a near-lethal irritability. Given that mania is associated with elevated adrenaline levels, and the symbiote canonically fed off the adrenal glands... this is probably exactly what they were going for.
    • Alternatively, Peter's inhibitions are just being lowered by the symbiote. He's no longer nervous or timid. He's aggressive, etc. So, he's acting cooler. But, since Peter's such a nerd in the first place, he still doesn't really know what it means to be cool. So, it comes off as him being a jerk. Take as evidence his Saturday Night Fever walk. He obviously thinks he's awesome in this scene, but most of the people he passes react to him with disgust or laughter. Because he's just a nerd, pretending to be cool and, predictably, just coming off as a bigger nerd for trying way too hard.
    • In the infamous strutting scene, women are attracted by him and turn their heads after him as he cockily walks by. It's when he starts acting weird - not just cocky, but doing plain weird things like shooting fingers at them and dancing in the street - that they start raising their eyebrows instead. It's analogous to getting drunk - at first it's just enough to get you to loosen up and feel confident, but once it gets too much, you get weird, inadequate and repulsive. Peter is literally Drunk on the Dark Side.
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    • Confidence is sexy. As Peter starts giving into the symbiote, the boost to his confidence and freedom to just be makes him more attractive. But then he gets overconfident, and people start reacting to him like a pathetic poseur.
  • Seems odd that Peter Parker, a science-loving kid from Queens, somehow knows how to play the piano, right? Well, a throwaway line of dialogue in 'Spider-Man 2' reveals it: Aunt May gives piano lessons, and probably gave them to Peter too
  • Came over here after seeing the What Could Have Been for Spider-Man 3 — specifically, that the butler was supposed to be another illusion of Harry's. Suddenly, that scene with him telling Harry that Norman did indeed kill himself MAKES SENSE. It's not the butler being a moron and not letting Harry know that his father wasn't killed by Spider-Man; THERE IS NO BUTLER. Harry's just using the butler as a mouthpiece as he tells himself that his friend Peter wasn't responsible for his father's death, and that there's no need for revenge!
    • Funny thing; we see the same butler in the first film, but he's completely absent for the second. Harry wasn't just imagining him; he was imagining a man he knew who had already died or been fired.
    • He was in the second film. Though even here he seems like he could just be Harry's imagined voice of reason, given the latter's hallucination at the end.
      Butler: Your father only obsessed over his work.
      Harry: Goodnight, Bernard.
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    • Isn't this canon? The intent for him to be a hallucination was always there, and there's nothing in the final product to contradict that.
      • 'Fraid there is. The scene where Peter visits Harry at home after the accident, I'm pretty sure Peter and Bernard spoke to each other. And then when Harry asks Bernard if he has any girlfriends, Peter doesn't react as though anything strange is happening.
        • Discussing if Bernard is real or not is ultimately pointless because if he's not a hallucination it does not mean he's not a symbol of Harry's better half trying to get through to him; Jiminy Cricket is a real cricket in-universe but the writer uses him as a symbol for Pinocchio's conscience.
      • Yeah, Peter doesn't respond awkwardly when Harry speaks to his butler later, so the butler is certainly alive.
      • Peter actually shakes the guys hand. So unless that's just all in Harry's mind...
      • Isn't it easy enough to put both together? The butler is alive, but the part when he told Harry about his father's death is Harry's imagination.
    • People always say the butler was stupid for not telling Harry, but his motives make perfect sense. At the end of Spider-Man 1 he found out how Norman died but didn't tell Harry because he knew that if Harry knew his dad was a killer it would be damaging. You can argue about if that would be worse than Harry thinking Spidey killed Norman but that's another story. At the end of Spider-Man 2 Harry finds out his dad was the Goblin but his butler never knew about that. Then Harry lost his memory. The butler was not made aware of the fact that Harry knew his dad was the Goblin until the point where Harry's bomb goes off in his face. Ergo, the butler's logic is: 1. Don't tell Harry his dad was the Goblin. 2. If Harry does know that his dad was the Goblin then tell him how Norman died. He didn't know point 2 had occurred until just before he told Harry what really happened that night.
    • The butler is most likely real. The only reason he didn't tell Harry anything was because Harry spent the entire trilogy either in the dark about his father being the Green Goblin or obsessing over his vengeance to the point of madness. It was only after getting napalmed in the face that Harry lost the will to fight and was thus more willing to listen to reason.
  • Some people dislike the fact that Venom isn't overly muscular, but this can be explained canonically. Venom originally only acted as a second skin, or a skin-tight suit, Eddie had to gain the muscles himself before they showed up on the suit. The movie version of Eddie didn't do a thing to buff himself up, which means no extra muscle mass.
  • This one only works in the Editor's Cut. When Harry gets impaled by Venom, he gives a look of shock and lingers on Peter for a bit. In the theatrical version, this is merely because he just suffered a fatal injury to save Peter, but the Editor's Cut adds some extra context to this by omitting the scene where Harry's butler tells Harry how his father actually died, meaning Harry decides to go help Peter and MJ on his own without that revelation. As a result, his shocked expression when he gets impaled and the way he lingers on Peter takes on new meaning: He just realized that this is how his father died and that Peter was innocent all along! Sam Raimi's claim that Harry was hallucinating the butler telling him this in the theatrical version lends credence to the implication that Harry subconsciously knew all along that his father killed himself and turned to revenge because he couldn't accept that due to his misguided loyalty to his father. The Editor's Cut having Harry decide on his own to call off his grudge for the sake of his friends frees him up to finally recall and accept the truth of his father's death when he gets fatally wounded in a similar way.
Fridge Horror
  • Nobody here seems to have noticed that the symbiote is STILL OUT THERE! Remember the church scene, when it's falling off Peter and onto Eddie? A little bit lands on Eddie's jacket and he quickly tosses the jacket aside.
    • And even if you could explain that piece of the symbiote away by saying it reconnected with the rest when it bonded with Brock, there's still the piece left in Connors' lab — who's to say that couldn't recreate itself or reproduce?
    • Also, look closely at the aftermath of the bomb. See something strange, like say a burning blob of goop moving on its own? Maybe the flame kills it, but we don't know...
    • Also in the indeterminate amount of time since it's had hosts, it could have spawned some offspring.
    • However, since he was shown experimenting on it in one scene, Connors probably either discovered its ability to recreate/reproduce, or just decided that no one else should bond with it and become aggressive like Peter. He likely destroyed the sample via putting it in a fire or something like that.
      • Alternatively, it might have went on to play a part in turning Connors into the Lizard if the Raimi movies hadn't ended.


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