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I'm going to vote no on the evil space devil rat thing, by reason of it being much too vaguely defined.

...well, this is an interesting page topper.

edited 11th Jan '17 3:10:53 PM by nrjxll

Neat

Now that all of this week's entries have been posted, I've noticed a wick in Raker's entry to You Killed My Father. Raker killed his own father, not Tails', long before meeting him. Whoever put it up might want to de-wick the words "killed his father" or re-wick them to an appropriate trope.

edited 11th Jan '17 3:20:15 PM by SeaRover

Change requested.

Hale

Abstaining on Lucifer Ratfink, due to its agency being too damn confusing.

edited 11th Jan '17 4:02:35 PM by DemonDuckofDoom

Alright, Satanus Ratigan (Hehe, I love this) seems to be a Non-Keep due to abstaining, which I'm perfectly ok with.

Anywho, time for my final film candidate for now, from the hilariously awful B-movie cop thriller, Shotgun 1989. Highly recommended, DDD.

Shotgun is the story of Ian "Shotgun" Jones, a tough-as-nails cop who DOESN'T play by the rules, as he takes on a ruthless, spineless British lawyer running his fair city into the ground.

Who is he?

Fletcher Rivington (Pfffft) is the Big Bad of the film.

What has he done?

Rivington is a corrupt lawyer known for bailing out obviously guilty killers, running drug rings, and shooting illegal porno films.

The film opens with Rocker, Rivington's Dragon, making a drug deal in a bar located in a Mexican village with the boss of said village. Rocker then reveals that Rivington wants to buy the entire village up, to which the boss refuses. Rocker responds by having the entire bar shot up, as ordered by Rivington, killing numerous people.

Rivington's "hobby" is then revealed. He has Rocker lure prostitutes to an isolated motel room, at which point Rivington takes over, dressed in...."ahem" special gear, including a leather mask, then brutally beats the prostitutes to near death with a bull whip, at which point he simply drops their payment on the floor and walks off, knowing they have no way of identifying him.

Having done this to numerous women, leaving them all brutally scarred both mentally and physically even after they recover, Rivington's hobby meets an issue when word begins getting around prostitutes to keep away from guys that looks like Rocker.

When Rocker finally manages to get a hooker, a young teen girl, Rivington, annoyed at having to wait so long to find another hooker, beats her a wee bit too much, and kills her.

Unfortunately for Rivington, that girl was the little sister of Ian "Shotgun" Jones, a tough-as-nails cop who DOESN'T play by the rules! (Yes, it did have to be said twice).

Jones begins busting up much of Rivington's operations, and, when he begins closing in on Rocker, Rivington has Rocker first execute one of their lackeys Jones had been talking to earlier in the day, then has Rocker gun down Jones' best friend, who barely manages survive the attempt on his life.

Rocker flees to Mexico, at which point Jones follows, convinces his badass survivalist expert buddy to assist him, then hops in a tank and lays waste to Rocker's hideout, blasting through everything in his way with tank shells that oddly catch people on fire. >_>

When Rocker, desperate to save his own skin, spills all of Rivington's crimes and such, Jones seems prepared to spare him....too bad for Rocker Rivington just showed up, and, unhappy that Rocker just ratted him out, guns down his Dragon without a second thought.

Confronted by Jones, who demands to know how Rivington could beat prostitutes like he does, Rivington gleefully states "They're not PEOPLE Jones, they're HOOKERS! It's what they're FOR!"

Rivington, though convinced that he's untouchable as he owns most of the police and criminals in Mexico and, being the great lawyer that he is, will never be arrested in court, doesn't see it coming when the unflappable Jones simply blows his butt away with his double-barrelled shotgun, ending his evil, overacted British accent reign of terror forever, at which point Jones rides into the sunset to get a cold beer with his best bud.

Freudian Excuse or other redeeming features?

It was a late 80s action B-Movie. Whatcha think, they thought making a 3 dimensional villain was a priority or something?

Heinousness?

Big Bad, worst in-story.

Overall, runs drug rings and other illegal activities, had a bar shot up, regularly brutally beats hookers within an inch of their lives, beats a young girl to death, has his lackey killed, tries to have Jones' best friend killed, and guns down his Dragon, all with that smug British accent of his.

No, not terribly bad, but just bad enough IMO.

Final Verdict?

Keep him. Despite how hilariously Narm-y he is, he's played serious, which makes it....humorous how over-the-top his evil was. I don't even know how I ended up watching this thing, it was just an amazing trainwreck and I couldn't look away.

edited 11th Jan '17 4:42:00 PM by Ravok

Ooh, yes to Rivington. Surprised I didn't stumble across that one.

the Party Crasher, Inspector Thomas Cray, Hale, and Riverton

Alright with 12 and 0 here is Edward Braddock's write. I believe he should go into Forsaken along with Birch and I'll also tweak Birch's write up as well.

''Assassin's Creed : Forsaken:

• Reginald Birch is the Big Bad of this novel, as well as the Greater-Scope Villain of the Kenway Saga. Initially a friend to Edward Kenway, when the latter's daughter, Jennifer Scott, exposes Birch to her father as not only a Templar of the British Rite but also their Grand Master, he sends mercenaries to the Kenway manor to murder Edward Kenway, and kidnap Jennifer to be sold as a Sex Slave to Turkish slavers, all while framing a innocent servant for the crime. He then takes in Edward's son Haytham, only so he could manipulate him into becoming a Professional Killer as well as a Knight Templar fanatic. From there he has Haytham kill many people, including the opposing Assassins. He even has a fellow Templar tortured and castrated when he got in the way of his plans. He also has Haytham uncover technology from the First Civilization, knowing full well the kind of destruction that they bring, all so he could use them Take Over the World even sending the below mentioned Edward Braddock to help him. When Haytham finds where Jennifer is being captive as well as Birch being the true culprit behind his father's murder, Birch tries to have Haytham killed along with Jennifer. In his last moments Birch tries to pass himself as a Well-Intentioned Extremist, but Haytham can see right through him as nothing more than a self-deluded madman only using the Templar ideology as an excuse to claim more power for himself.

• Edward Braddock, "The Bulldog", is a fellow templar. Presented as an ally of Haytham it was revealed that he helped in aforementioned Reginald Birch in the raid of the Kenway mansion by personally framing an innocent servant for the deed. He later took part in the siege of Bergen op Zoom against the French Army, and when he was retreating a man asked if he and his family could come with him. When the man calls him a craven when he doesn't, Braddock has him and his family killed children included. When Reginald assigns him and Haytham to various parts of world in uncover First Civilization technology the former only questions Reginald's obsession when it meant his own life and position might be at steak; it doesn't detract from his cruelty where during their search, he had continue to killed numerous people, not just his enemies, but also his allies and the innocent, much to the latter's shock. During Seven Years' War, Braddock oversees the annihilation of many French camps and when one them tries to offer a truces, he ignores it has order his men to kill them all causing needless deaths on both sides of the field. He also has destroyed many uninvolved native american tribe solely to fuel his sadism. When he believes one of his men to be insubordinate, he kills him and has done this many times before. When one of the tribes, with the help of Haytham ambushes him and his men, he leaves them for dead, while he dies tries to escape. Brutal and Unfettered, even his fellow allies wanted him dead.

You know an AC page actually sounds like a good idea, does any have any good quotes and pics to go along with it?

edited 11th Jan '17 5:14:47 PM by G-Editor

I really, really don't think we need an AC page.

Yea to that one, Ravok

Concurred on that. It's not necessary.

fletcher

I agree the monster page isn't necessary

edited 11th Jan '17 6:08:40 PM by Mediawatcher

Really we already have seven entries the minimum requirement is around 5-7

And?

We don't need "minimum" entries for a page. We don't need to give a franchise a page every bloody time it gets to that number. Make a justifiable case as to why a franchise needs its own page aside from "it has more than five entries" and we'll listen.

But until then? We need to get out of this habit of obsessively making pages for every franchise under the sun. It makes navigation confusing and it's, most of all, usually just utterly pointless.

So here's a villlain from Everyman HYBRID that I believe qualifies. Background info: Everyman HYBRID is a web series focused on Evan, Vincent, and Jeff, as they film an amateur exercise series online, but things go south when a tall, faceless guy in a suit starts stalking them. Jeff's brother Alex and an unrelated (at first) blogger named Steph get dragged into the mess as well, with The Rake and eventually, a powerful force named HABIT entering the fray.

Who is HABIT?

HABIT is a supernatural entity capable of possessing people over an extended period of time. He's a sociopathic sadist who enjoys tormenting people and appears to have some sort of power over space and time. He's also got a dark sense of humor and is generally Faux Affably Evil.

Think of Killer BOB from Twin Peaks and you've got the right idea.

What has he Done?

Periodically possessing Evan, HABIT forces him to strangle Daniel (a minor character) to death, brutally torture and murder Jeff, later does the same with Steph, and eat the baby Evan had fathered with her. To add to the horror of this event, HABIT made sure Evan was aware of his actions the entire time in order to psychologically torture him. To further psychologically torture Evan, HABIT gives him a Healing Factor that prevents him from committing suicide. Vincent later summons HABIT as part of an attempt to get some answers, only for HABIT to berate him for his idiocy and force Vincent into finding victims for HABIT to torture and kill. HABIT then forces Vincent to spend two years alone in an apartment and gets him to commit suicide, but Vincent comes back to life due to another Healing Factor HABIT gave him.

After hijacking the blog Can You See the Words, HABIT posts several entries that heavily implies that he had previously been multiple notorious serial killers and war criminals over the years, including Vlad the Impaler, Jack The Ripper, Ed Gein, Albert Fish, and Joseph Mengele. HABIT also posts stories on the blog from the perspective of his victims where he would torture and kill the victim's loved ones and leave the survivors for Slender Man to kill.

In a crossover with fellow Slender series ML Anderson 0, HABIT lures Shaun Anderson into his home, and then tortures him to death with the goal of luring in Michael Anderson (and his Split Personality Patrick) into his home as well for purposes not yet explained.

Freudian Excuse or mitigating factors?

No excuse for HABIT's behavior has been provided. The only mitigating factor I can think of is that HABIT has recently been working against Slender Man for unknown reasons, but considering all of his above acts, I doubt it's out of altruism.

Heinous standard?

While HABIT obviously isn't the only villain in the show, he's different from Slender Man and the Rake because he's an unrepentant Sadist who enjoys what he's doing. Slender Man and the Rake's motives are ambiguous while HABIT is just a straight up bastard.

The Verdict?

I'd say yes.

edited 11th Jan '17 7:21:41 PM by ThePest179

Thank you for properly bringing HABIT here. He sounds a yes.

Rivington and HABIT

@Ravok: I'll put it in my Netflix queue for next week. As an aside, I love how everybody just knows to recommend their godawful movies to me now.

edited 11th Jan '17 7:14:47 PM by DemonDuckofDoom

Good to finally see an effort post on him but is HABIT's arc over?

Thing is, it's probably not going to be over for a while. If anything changes, we can change it or cut him later. For now, though, HABIT's proved himself a keeper.

True. Well atm HABIT is a easy .

Ok we talked about Tyranny a while back and concluded it had a candidate in the form of the Voices of Nerat. Before that, Obsidian Entertainment played a big part in reviving the CRPG genre with Pillars of Eternity. I went through the old threads a bit and saw the game was never discussed. I'm considering plunging headfirst into discussion on the Big Bad and the Greater-Scope Villain, but I'm confident neither count. Has anyone else played the game that could discuss this or maybe even PM me?

HABIT.

Doesn't HAB It have standards about animal cruelty? That was the reason we voted him down last time I think.

He eats the cats he takes care of.

Yeah, HABIT's standards... turned out to be not so much standards. Both the mitigating factors I saw on him ended up pretty thoroughly disqualified in some form.

Anyways, off HABIT... time for tonight's candidate. I was initially going to propose this guy all the way back in October but a lack of interest and other projects stopped me. Now that I've seen Séance, I've got us a keeper. Meet James Spence.

Who is Spence? What has he done?

Back in the 60s, Spence served as the maintenance man for an apartment complex called the Chelsea building. He seemed a fairly alright fellow - stoic, soft-spoken, and prone to whistling on the job. Naturally, however... Spence hid a dark secret. Spence was a child rapist and his target back then was a nine-year-old Italian kid named Cara, repeatedly subjecting her to his perverted attentions and coaxing her into keeping quiet under the threat of hurting her sister. Spence eventually savagely murdered Cara and tossed her body down a disused elevator shaft, convincing the press it was an accident and getting off scot-free for a while. Spence's deeds eventually caught up with him in 1973, however, where he was convicted of the murder of five other children (and considering what he did with Cara, that does not leave particularly pretty implications for what he did with the other kids he killed) and sentenced to death by the electric chair. Cara's spirit continued to wander the Chelsea Building, which is eventually turned into a university dormitory. A group of students staying on campus for the Thanksgiving weekend get the brilliant idea of trying to summon Cara through - guess - a séance. Things go wrong and they end up summoning... someone else.

Spence is back. He's currently tied to the building, however, but he immediately returns to old habits as a ghost invisible in the light. He begins stalking the students - comprised of Lauren, Melina, Alison, Grant, and Diego - and playing subtle mind games with them. During an ill-fated round of intended sex in one of the building's blocked-off rooms, Alison is left on her own in the dark room. Spence ambushes her and feels her up before forcing himself upon her... the imagery here all but implies he rapes her before he spirits him away. When Diego returns, Alison's gone. Diego bumps into Spence after, who's just whistling away and sweeping the floors. He gives Diego an ominous sort of wink which causes Diego to lose his shit and report back to the others. In the meanwhile, Spence attacks the building's security guard and strangles him with wire whilst whistling a little nursery tune and stroking him as he struggles. He doesn't actually kill the security guard, though... in a bit of a similar vein to the earlier-proposed Jack, Spence tortures the guy with wires and leaves him as a bloodied, agonized, but still living wreck. Spence ratchets up the psychological torment of the remaining students before Cara points Lauren to the path of a buried diary which reveals what Spence was doing to Cara before he murdered her. This is when these idiots finally realize they summoned Spence instead of Cara and they resolve to stop him.

In a pretty creative way of planning to dispose of him, the students form a sort of circle and begin a chant meant to force Spence into the body of a parrot Diego's looking after. Spence, however, tricks Diego into severing the link meant to protect the students and he possesses him. In Diego's body, Spence quickly tries to force himself upon Lauren before being attacked. Out of spite, Spence forces Diego to cut his own throat open and vacates the body, leaving Diego to die. The students have really screwed up here... they've accidentally given him the ability to Body Surf. Spence, with this power, plans to pick off the remaining survivors one-by-one before taking the remaining body and finally leave the Chelsea Building, now with the ability to live forevermore by surfing from body to body. The only way to kill him is either to electrocute him (as electrocution was the way he initially went) or kill him just as he's possessing a host. Lauren, while trying to scope out Spence, finds Alison and just what Spence did with her... he's utterly mutilated her with elevator wires. When they find her, Spence traps her at the bottom of an elevator shaft and then uses the elevator to crush her as her friends desperately try to free her.

Spence continues to torment the students, ensnaring Melina with wire (again, the imagery here implies he's not just intending to kill her) before Lauren finally manages to directly attack him, taking a severed wire and plunging it into his neck to electrocute him. In true horror fashion, Spence isn't dead, and Lauren decides to sacrifice herself by trapping Spence in her own body and hurling herself down the elevator shaft. She draws Spence to him and almost gets him to possess her before Grant shows up, forces Spence to possess him instead with the chant, and quickly plunges himself off the elevator shaft, ending them both. Lauren and Melina are allowed to walk off free and the credits roll... and in the middle of that, we see the security guard - who's being wheeled out by an ambulance - eyes open. They're the same color as Spence's.

Whoops. At least the girls get off free.

Mitigating factors?

Oh, that's a cute thought. Regardless, let me go over the one thing that might be a little concerning... as a ghost, Spence doesn't actually talk (aside from one utterance of "die" to the security guard just before he attacks him). Regardless? We get more than a few flashes of Spence's personality. Now, he's not necessarily sadistic nor even that emotive. What Spence is is a pervert. He's a creepy asshole who makes a move on pretty much every female character on the movie... it's implied he raped Alison, it's explicit he raped and killed Cara, and he makes a move on every other female in the film... licking their arms, forcing them into corners as they try to run, all that. That alongside the mind games he plays with the students (calling them to do his creepy little whistle into the phone, stalking them, messing around with them while he's invisible, the like) and other little instances of creepy behavior - like gently humming as he strangles the security guard - all give him enough substance to apply to the trope. Oh, and he does speak in flashback, and what we see there that paints him as nothing less than a manipulative predator who convinces Cara to keep quiet about he's doing to her under the threat of harming her sister.

So, what we have here's a pedophile serial child murderer who returns to undead life to enact even more bouts of brutal murder, torture, and rape. No mitigating factors as far as the eye can see.

And before anyone asks, the film isn't really a pointlessly dark shlock horror flick... it's not a good movie but there is way darker and way more pointless shit than this out there.

Conclusion?

Spence is one of the viler malevolent ghosts I've seen. Easy keeper.

Thoughts?

edited 11th Jan '17 8:10:52 PM by Scraggle