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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#1: Aug 15th 2015 at 4:27:09 PM

Hey everyone. Here's the thread for either discussing about Jurassic Park fanfics or talking about writing Jurassic Park fanfics.

Not exactly sure what else to add... Well, I guess I can talk about how I'm considering hacking the Titan World RPG to base it more around Jurassic World.

edited 15th Aug '15 4:27:51 PM by Psyga315

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#2: Aug 15th 2015 at 5:25:17 PM

You may peruse this OP to flesh out this thread's own.

So... I've been reading the Jurassic World fanfic It's not the Raptor DNA, and had finished Chapter 51 last night. Awesomesauce.

edited 15th Aug '15 5:25:30 PM by MarqFJA

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#3: Aug 16th 2015 at 4:33:49 PM

We could have a Jo Jo cross with some asshole running around the place stabbing random dinosaurs with the Stand Arrow. First are a little episodic as the staff and maybe some guests deal with the suddenly much smarter dinos¹ showing supernatural abilities, then everything goes to hell when the I. Rex also get stabbed. It's up to the rag tag bunch of misfits Stand users (which may or may not include a good chunk of the JW cast, including the raptors) to stop the menace.

There would be also a prequel (called TYRANT IS UBEATABLE) about how Rexie was dragged into a battle between zombie dinosaurs and a Hamon using turtle² sometime after the events of the first movie. Rexie herself learned how to use hamon, not because she was taught, no, but because she figured out the trick to it after the HAMON TURTLE used her as a hamon enhanced mount one too many times. She still ended up on the new park, though, and gave the Stand using I. Rex a run for her money when the two inevitably clashed.

¹It's been kind of shown in Jo Jo that when a animal get a Stand, they also get human-level intelligence. Some dinosaurs benefited from it more than others.

²Joseph taught his wife's pet how to use Hamon as a joke, by the time he noticed anything was amiss the turtle was already a veteran of many vampire hunts sponsored by the Speedwagon foundation. Unlike Joseph, HAMON TURTLE never really slowed down due to age and stayed active even long after the turn of the millennium.

edited 17th Aug '15 11:20:55 AM by minusmagniaxe

Hyp3rB14d3 Since: Jan, 2001
#4: Aug 16th 2015 at 9:18:24 PM

This would be either really awesome, really stupid, or some combination of both.

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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#6: Aug 17th 2015 at 4:58:23 AM

So it turns out that my hack of Titan World consisted of only changing the Titan Shifter into a Velociraptor.

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#7: Aug 17th 2015 at 9:59:15 AM

Shifting into a velociraptor isn't quite as impressive.

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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#8: Aug 17th 2015 at 10:21:07 AM

[up] No. I mean just a Velociraptor. Not a Velociraptor Shifter.

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#9: Sep 8th 2015 at 1:03:00 PM

I've been thinking of ways on how to integrate the bare-bones plot of The Lost World: Jurassic Park (PSX, not arcade) into the movie canon.

My current idea: During the interim between late May 1997 (when Hammond made his televised speech where he implores both national and international authorities to protect the dinosaurs as endangered species) and InGen being bought out in late 1998, an InGen executive — who is driven by desperation over the seeming inevitability of the company becoming bankrupt and subsequently bought out by Masrani Global — hires another team of mercenaries to secretly infiltrate the island and do what Ludlow's mercs ultimately failed to do: capture and smuggle out live dinosaur specimens and every bit of genomic data and cryo-preserved embryos possible from the abandoned labs. The latter objective ultimately rests in the hands of a lone-wolf "commando" who has an impressive track record of surviving in various dangerous environments where he's forced to contend with lethal apex predators. He does very well for the most part, even managing to improvise when faced with the unexpectedly large numbers of Velociraptors that infested the labs. But unfortunately, his luck ends right after he does acquire what he was looking for, as he unwillingly drops the data and embryo samples when a particular pack of raptors ambush him and force the man to jump through a window to avoid a grisly death, yet they eventually catch up to him when he's forced to make a run for it in the jungle in a desperate bid to reach a well-defended mercenary outpost. (Off the record, his horrible fate is mainly Laser-Guided Karma for his attempted killing of a single tiny Compsognathus by way of firearms and grenades just because it happened to bite his shoe.)

The mercs are still stubborn, though, and they decide to launch a full-scale raid on the lab complex, confident that they can wipe out or at least hold back the raptor infestation and get what they wanted. The plan seems to be working, until the disparate packs are astonishingly unified under a single raptor as their "super-alpha", who proves his One-Man Army credentials by deftly ripping through the ranks of the hunters and almost single-handedly cause the majority of their casualties to the raptors. He then proceeds to lead the rest of the raptors through the jungle, tracking the hunters' scent and fully intent on finding their camp.

The hunters then decide to err on the side of paranoia and set off a huge wildfire in the forest to wipe out as many of the many incoming raptor packs as possible, and scare off the rest. It works like a charm...

... except that they now unintentionally pissed off a male Tyrannosaurus rex whose mate and juvenile offspring were threatened by the conflagration when it encroached upon their nesting area. Cue one mad T. rex buck braving ash-filled wastelands, sulfric geysers, and even raptor- and Allosaurus-infested caverns as it sought out the source of the scent that it caught while searching the scorched forest for the interlopers that dared to do this to his "kingdom", before finally finding the hunters' main camping grounds and proceeded to trash the place and turn it into a veritable slaughterhouse.

Unknown to him, he kinda received some behind-the-scenes help from a team of daring environmentalists who covertly landed on the island after the hunters did, and proceeded to sabotage much of the main camp's heavier ordnance (they brought some armored vehicles and a lot of antitank-grade weapons). Had they not done so, our T. rex would've probably been forced to reluctantly flee in the face of overwhelming odds, if not outright killed by the hunters.

Unfortunately, one woman among the team had her scent caught by the T. rex under circumstances that led him to believe that she had been majorly responsible for the conflagration (perhaps she had tried to sabotage the flamethrower cache, and he caught the scent there), thus initiating a big chase across the remnants of the camp all the way to the transport ship that the hunters would have used to take their ill-gotten prizes, where Mama T also makes her appearance after having found a safe hiding place for her child. She ultimately manages to survive after her teammates succeed in pumping enough tranquilizer in the T. rex duo to make them groggy and confused for a few minutes, allowing the team to make their escape to their planned LZ and leave the island.

In the wake of this massive clusterfuck, the embarrassed US government significantly steps up its maritime patrols for enforcing the quarantine zone over the Muertes Archipelago and neighbouring Isla Nublar, and the scandal resulting from the aforementioned exec's involvement drives InGen into full-blown financial ruin by mid-1998, finally breaking the in-house resistance against Masrani's buyout proposal.

Well, what do you think?

edited 8th Sep '15 1:43:24 PM by MarqFJA

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Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
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#11: Sep 8th 2015 at 2:46:12 PM

Thanks. It also neatly avoids the Fridge Logic of Sarah Harding, a dedicated zoologist specialized in animal behavior, being somehow well-versed in the usage of so many military-grade firearms and delving straight into the heat of combat... as well as the question of what she was doing in the middle of the hunters' camp when she'd be 100% against what they were doing, or what she was doing on the island if she was simply passing through the camp in her attempt to escape the pursuing T. rex (and why the dinosaur was pursuing her so insistently, outright ignoring all the rockets the hunters pelt him with like they were nothing in stark contrast to the T. rex gameplay).

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#12: Sep 9th 2015 at 6:18:34 AM

... Wait a minute, Ms. Harding actually handled a tranquilizer-dart rifle in the ending of the movie well, like she already knew how to use it properly. Would you suppose that field zoologists who work closely with dangerous animals (predatory or not) may find it helpful to undergo training with such weapons, in case they face a situation where such an animal needs to be sedated from afar?

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#13: Sep 9th 2015 at 1:38:42 PM

[up]I would find that pretty believable and more then justified in the Jurassic Park setting...

RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#14: Sep 9th 2015 at 2:08:32 PM

It's makes sense for zoologist to have how-to knowledge on weapons, since 1) it's useful for tagging, 2) places with interesting animals tends to have... interesting natives.

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#15: Sep 9th 2015 at 3:11:37 PM

Yeah, but... How to explain why she never bothers getting a spare gun from the hunters for self-defense purposes after the two groups united under the common goal of survival, if she does know?

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RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#16: Sep 9th 2015 at 3:47:52 PM

In-Universe reason: Boss of the group (Tembo?) doesn't trust her or her ilk.

Out-Of-Universe reason: Because apparently, whoever writes the script for The Lost World got lazy and ask his/ her 10 year old kid to write it.

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#17: Sep 9th 2015 at 7:13:48 PM

Right. I guess I'll just invoke Adaptation Expansion and whatever other trope that pertains to extrapolating from canonical moments, and do some significant reworking to the second movie's events. Ain't like I'm not doing that already, what with intending to amalgamate those events with the version from the novel they were loosely based on, and especially with how I decided to pull Sarah out of the scrappy cesspit by taking all of the Fridge Logic-inducing acts of apparent stupidity that clashed with her status as an expert in animal behavior and shunting off to Nick Van Owen's character, who in my opinion definitely deserves being stuck as The Scrappy for being a Ungrateful Bastard of an Animal Wrongs Group member who never truly gets punished for all the unnecessary human deaths that he caused directly or indirectly through his actions in the movie (it helps that even movie!Sarah questions his sanity over taking the infant T. rex away from the nest for any reason, because she accurately predicted full well how violently protective the parents would be).

Oh, and for the record, all of this is for a Jurassic World fanfic idea that's in the same vein of It's not the Raptor DNA. Eddie Carr survived Isla Sorna, BTW; I'm working on the details, but basically the events involving the tyrannosaurs and the trailers after the infant was given back to them were closer to what happened in the novel, and Eddie was stuck in the high hide with Kelly because a pack of raptors found them, and he had to fend them off with his gun and other methods (somewhat similar to the novel, only he doesn't pull the stupid stunt of trying to shoo them away with a long pole that they could easily grab on to and pull him down with).

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RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#18: Sep 9th 2015 at 10:12:42 PM

My opinion is, that everyone in The Lost World could be salvaged and improved. Even Nominal Hero like Nick and that stupid jerk guy.

On Nick: Raise his common sense a little higher and tone down his luck. Makes his most destructive antics limited simply on hindering the projects (stealing supplies, causing flat tires), only going for big gestures on really important moment. And makes him stop his antics altogether when they had to work together.

On the jerk: The problem is that he (and most of his ilk) seems to more experienced as mercenary than hunter. Roland Tembo is hunter, through and through. He understands animal behavior like his favorite elephant gun. He could make snap judgment about bad lodging places simply by observing the field in one go. Most of the mercs incompetence can be attributed to one thing: they underestimated nature (since it's not "guys with guns"), and nature simply pull the rug.

Really, InGen would be more successful if they send actual poacher, like, say, those African smugglers, rather than some 3rd rate mercs.

edited 9th Sep '15 10:13:36 PM by RBomber

Psyga315 Since: Jan, 2001
#19: Sep 10th 2015 at 5:49:28 AM

An Accusation Fic on The Lost World would totally be awesome.

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#20: Sep 10th 2015 at 7:30:58 AM

[up][up] Yeah, well, Nick is unfortunately a Canon Foreigner invented specifically for the movie, rather than based on any of the characters from the novel (Eddie Carr, for example, is a Composite of an eponymous character and his mentor, while Kiley is a composite of an eponymous girl and a same-aged boy with an added parent-child relation to Ian), and his many negatives outweigh his few positives IMO, especially since he gets away scott free with them. His membership with Earth First! with its controversial reputation doesn't exactly put him in a good light, too.

At least Sarah has the excuse that her original incarnation from novel was nowhere near being so incompetent or stupid, meaning she became a victim of Character Derailment in the course of being adapted into the movie.


On a different note, since the Indominus rex of Jurassic World was designed from the ground up as a relatively autonomous Living Weapon, would it be plausible to portray her as having been designed to perfectly capable on subsisting on a purely plant-based diet to increase her survivability when cut off from supply lines and lacking any viable fauna to prey upon?

edited 10th Sep '15 7:37:36 AM by MarqFJA

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RBomber Since: Nov, 2010
#21: Sep 10th 2015 at 2:43:08 PM

That depends. Do you want the dino to be autonomous weapon of terror, attack beast, tracker, or what? On the 1st, increasing diet range would be advantageous, if only to increase its survival ability.

The problem is, usually military wants to have their weapon to be controllable to nth degree. Making intelligent predator that can subsist on wide range of diets can stab you in the back if you're not careful, since escaped specimens would be a really pain to be tracked and detained. Limiting the diets could make detaining easier, if only by denying its source of food.

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#22: Sep 10th 2015 at 5:57:16 PM

That's why I said "relatively autonomous". And besides, if Hoskins is any indicator of what the people who commissioned the Indominus project were thinking, those in the military who may have been in on the experiment (that is, interested in seeing if it bears fruit) may have genuinely believed that they can control the Indominus since "it's just an animal that we can program loyalty to us into". Which, of course, is prime material for a Gone Horribly Wrong (because the loyalty thing fails utterly) / Gone Horribly Right scenario (because everything else turned out exactly as they wanted).

edited 10th Sep '15 5:57:34 PM by MarqFJA

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#23: Sep 14th 2015 at 3:09:19 AM

On a different note, anyone else think that Jackal News in It's not the Raptor DNA seems like an obvious Take That!-style Shout-Out to a certain Republican-aligned US-based news outlet?

edited 14th Sep '15 3:11:23 AM by MarqFJA

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#25: Sep 16th 2015 at 11:06:36 AM

In other news, I'm trying to assemble my own amalgamation of the JP canon timelines — movie series primarily, with influence from the novels and various spin-offs (chief among those being Jurassic Park: Trespasser). My main problem is how to reconcile the parts involving the period from Hammond founding InGen to the Isla Nublar Incident of 1993, especially since the movie canon itself seems to contradict itself when it comes to when Isla Sorna and Isla Nublar became InGen's playground.

For reference, here are the major timelines I'm trying to combine, all of which come from the JP Wiki and are quite well-cited: Movies, Novels, and Trespasser.

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