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YMMV: Batman Beyond
  • Audience Awareness Advantage: Dana gets a lot of flack from some fans for not always forgiving Terry when he misses dates because of Batman duties and making his life difficult, even though as far as she knows, he's just an old man's part-time assistant who's doing a very bad job of balancing his new responsibilities with his prior relationships.
  • Author's Saving Throw/Character Rerailment: In The New Batman Adventures, Mr. Freeze went on a rampage due to losing his body and Nora, and was going to end it by essentially destroying Gotham. Fans complained about this due to undoing the ending of Subzero, where Freeze finally finds closure, as well as seeming out-of-character. Beyond dials him back, showing him trying to own up to his horrific actions in his sole appearance, but becoming a villain again after one more kick in the gut, and then finally dying, trying to keep Terry from saving his life.
  • Awesome Music: The series itself has an amazing opening sequence and music in general,
    • In one episode, Bruce Wayne has to save Terry from Inque. We are treated to a re-orchestrated version of the original Batman Theme during the fight.
    • One episode featured Bruce and Terry attending a Batman musical. The musical, unfortunately for Bruce, is really campy and almost seems like a musical version of the Adam West series, albeit with the characters in their Batman: The Animated Series clothing. It's hilarious for the fans though, with the purposely-corny numbers having Narm Charm and purposely invoking the So Bad, It's Good trope.
    Bruce: (*glaring at Terry at the end of a really campy song*) You hate me, don't you?
  • Base Breaker:
    • Max. Fan reactions to her introduction ranged from considering her the best part of the series and thinking she was sold short (and often accompanied by shipping her with Terry) to considering her the worst character yet and hoping that she'd just die and stop taking screentime away from everyone else. Her Base Breaker status also extends to the development team; according to Bruce Timm, some of the writers were unhappy about her inclusion and used Bruce Wayne to voice their own opinions of her, while Alan Burnett at least wanted to promote her to Love Interest.
    • Terry himself has a sizeable hatedom, mostly Bruce Wayne fans who dislike the idea of a new Batman taking over from Bruce, or dislike that Batman was made Younger and Hipper. He's often called "emo teen" and "merely a Robin" by such fans.
  • Broken Base: The offscreen relationship between Bruce and Barbara had always been disliked on varying levels by the fandom. However, the reveal in the Batman Beyond comics that Bruce had impregnated Barbara just weeks before she had re-entered a seemingly happy relationship with Dick was very divisive. Some found it gutwrenched, and thought it adequately explained why Bruce, Dick, and Barbara were estranged from one another for so long. Others thought it was too much like a bad soap opera, and that the Bruce-Barbara relationship should never have been revisited.
  • Complete Monster: Besides The Joker from Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker, the series itself has one in Blight, AKA Derek Powers, a Corrupt Corporate Executive and the Arch-Enemy of Terry. In order to test his latest chemical weapon, Powers purposefully infected Harry Tully, a member of his staff, with it. When Tully leaks the information to Terry’s father, Warren, Powers had Warren murdered to cover it up. Later, Powers sold the weapon to a Kaznian diplomat who wanted to wipe out resistance on his border. To promote his product, Powers showed the diplomat pictures of Tully’s gradual death at the hands of the chemical. Other crimes include committing industrial sabotage, exiling his son, and polluting the ocean by dumping radioactive waste into it. He played a part in Mr. Freeze's tragic demise as well; he used Freeze as a guinea pig to cure his own condition and when Freeze wanted revenge, Blight brutally crippled Freeze with his radiation. He’s also responsible for the creation of the super villain, Shriek, who he hired to assassinate Bruce Wayne for getting in the way of his plans to bulldoze Gotham's historical district for profit. There's also his response to Terry's use of You Killed My Father as a hint to Batman's real identity:
    Blight: Do you have the slightest idea how little that narrows it down?
  • Contested Sequel: Mostly averted; the series is overall considered a really good sequel to Batman: The Animated Series and has been well-received by the majority of fans. The fact it came out while the previous series was still running, making it a spin-off rather than an actual sequel, probably helped.
  • Damsel Scrappy: Max Gibson is often considered this by her detractors. This tendency is best displayed in the episode "Final Cut", where she ignores Terry's instructions and snoops around for clues, leading to her getting attacked by an assassin. Terry has to leave his post protecting the assassin's target to rescue her, which results in the target getting mindwiped with a hidden bomb ready to explode thanks to his Dead Man Switch.
  • Die for Our Ship: Dana, big time, from Terry/Max and Terry/Melanie fans.
  • Ensemble Dark Horse:
    • The Joker's personal gang of Jokerz, especially Dee Dee, are inordinately popular for only appearing in The Movie. Fans were naturally thrown a bone when Justice League Unlimited went to that time and they were used as Chronos' flunkies.
    • For someone who only appeared in 3 episodes, Melanie Walker made an exceptionally positive impression on viewers and shippers alike, being one of the most popular romantic alternatives for Terry.
    • Mad Stan was a one-note villain simply there to force Terry to miss his date with Dana. His outright insane Ax-Crazy personality made him popular among fans and he reappeared in several episodes, finally getting to be the main antagonist when The Zeta Project crossed over. The best part: due to Zeta's naive, cheerful nature, he and Stan actually get along well, resulting in this hilarious line:
  • Epileptic Trees: Spoofed in Batman Beyond: Return of the Joker when Terry starts rattling off a list of increasingly unlikely theories as to why the Joker's still alive and kicking. Bruce eventually tells him to shut up. His theories also include a Shout-Out to Captain America.
  • Evil Is Sexy: Inque. It runs in the family, as her daughter Deanna is pretty good looking also.
    • Also Queen and Ten from the Royal Flush Gang count for this, until Ten defects from the group.
    • Curare also to a certain degree, though the official artwork of her real face makes her a Butter Face.
    • Also Frion from the Terrific Trio.
    • Dee-Dee from the Jokerz in the movie. Probably helps that their Grandma is Harley Quinn
    • Stephanie Lake also qualifies as this.
  • Fan-Preferred Couple: Terry and Melanie and Terry and Max are in the running for the top spot, if fanfiction is any indication. Alan Burnett even tried to pair Max and Terry in one episode, to the objections of Timm, who had had no such intention when he proposed the episode (Here at 1:55).
  • Foe Yay: Ten and Batman.
    • Also Inque and Batman. She even kisses him on the mouth to prevent him from relaying a warning to Bruce about her trap for him in one episode.
  • "Funny Aneurysm" Moment: While going over Presidents with Max, this exchange occurs (This episode was produced in 2000 when the election was going on; then it first aired during the month-long legal battle between George W. Bush and Al Gore, making it even more hilarious.):
    Max: Yeah?
    Terry: I dunno.
    Max: C'mon. Clinton was the fun one, then came the boring one.
    • This would have been doubly hilarious if Al Gore, who actually has a reputation for being boring, had won the 2000 election.
  • Harsher in Hindsight: The Jokerz are a gang of youths inspired by The Joker to commit crimes, including murder. Well, we ended up getting a real life example with the Aurora Theater Shooting during the premiere of The Dark Knight Rises in 2012.
    • Henry Rollins playing a quasi-suicidal mad bomber, after he severely hurt his reputation in 2014 with an article where he viciously insulted anyone who commits suicide in response to Robin Williams doing it (and while he was currently on a show with Williams' daughter, to boot).
  • Hilarious in Hindsight: Being set in the future tends to attract this from time to time, whether it is Terry quipping "Who reads newspapers anymore?" (in "The Winning Edge") or reviewing the Presidents with "Clinton was the fun one, then came the boring one." (in "Mind Games"). By the time of the series a perfect score is 2400 (see the example in Second Place Is for Losers), which as of 2005 it has been.
    • "My father's name was pronounced "Raysh", not "Razz"."
    • In the pilot episode, a Jokerz member says "Let's put a smile on his face," while brandishing a knife. Ever since TDK came out, one may now consider it retroactive fanon that that particular Jokerz member was intentionally quoting one of the signature lines of his "hero."
    • In "Countdown," Zeta disguises himself as Terry in costume to escape the NSA. Diedrich Bader would later voice a different Batman years later.
    • During "Disappearing Inque" while interrogating a captured Terry about who Bruce is, Inque asks "Is he your father? Grandfather?" Come an episode of Justice League Unlimited a few years later, we find out Bruce is Terry's father.
    • The episode "Zeta" starts off with a lecture about the theory that one's genetic makeup makes a person inclined to act a certain way and brings up the question of free will. Terry wonders if being Batman makes him naturally suspicious. As Terry would find out later, he does have Batman's genes that might make him naturally suspicious.
  • Jerkass Woobie:
    • Willie Watt.
    • Carter Wilson/Terminal
  • Memetic Mutation: BLOW IT ALL UP!
  • Moral Event Horizon: Ra's al Ghul. Murdering your daughter to save yourself via Brain Uploading and then parading around in her body, living her life. Geez.
    • And then Robert Vance, or at least the computer program with his memories depending on how you look at it, tries to do the exact same thing to his own grandson.
  • Nausea Fuel: In "Rebirth Part II", Blight designs a virus that rapidly causes damage to cells in organisms. He shows the effects to one of his allies, first showing a plant utterly disintegrating in seconds due to the effects, and later on a cow and human. We never see the end result but judging by what happened to the plant and how the guy viewing looking ready to vomit, its safe to assume it was a little messy.
    • See Squick below.
    • In-universe, just being around Blight long enough is this for anyone not wearing a protective suit.
  • Nightmare Fuel: Lots.
    • The end of "April Moon", as a drill bit slowly approaches the POV of the viewer:
    "I understand. No holding back."
    • From "Meltdown": Remember, there might be some momentary discomfort.
    • The episode "Lost Soul." Just the way the Robert Vance program (or Vance himself, depending on how you look at it) looks on the computer screen with the dead eyes and the ghost-like pallor is Nightmare Fuel by itself. The events of the episode just mix in kerosene with the Nightmare Fuel, and the end where as he's being deleted we hear his memories going back to childhood, ending with the heartbreaking sound of child!Vance asking for his mama just dumps the entire container on and turns it into Nightmare Fuel. There may not be a single episode that can rival how creepy the villain was and how disturbing that end scene was.
    • The Monsters Week from "Earth Mover". A freaking living corpse who can control the dirt and attack you anywhere.
  • No Yay:
    • "Out of the Past". Bruce and Talia Ra's. Terry and Bruce are as Squicked as you would expect. Bruce even lampshades it.
  • Rescued from the Scrappy Heap: Most viewers would have no idea that Bruce Wayne's loyal guard dog Ace was a retooling of the '50s era Ace the Bat-Hound. Most viewers would not even know Ace the Bat-Hound existed (at least before the Krypto the Superdog show where he was a recurring character or his appearance in Batman: The Brave and the Bold).
  • Shipping: Terry/Max and Terry/Melanie Walker have their fans. Believe it or not, so does Terry/Dana and inevitably for better or worse, so does Terry/Bruce.
  • Shipping Goggles: Terry/Max shippers sometimes claim that the two are pining for each other or in denial about their romantic feelings, ignoring the time the two were on a date (as part of a case) and Terry even noticed how good-looking Max was, only for Max to completely ignore his notice and nothing else coming of it. When Terry gives Max a chaste peck on the cheek in the comic, shippers cried Ship Tease, ignoring how neither character treated it as at all romantic.
  • So Bad, It's Good: The episode "Out of the Past" is arguably one of the darkest and most depressing in the series... but it starts out with one of the most ridiculously-goofy examples of Stylistic Suck in a cartoon. Complete with a lampshade from Bruce.
    Bruce: You hate me, don't you?
  • Spiritual Licensee: Batman Beyond is a Spider-Man cartoon. Looking past the Wake Up, Go to School, Save the World premise, Terry is a wisecracking teenage superhero driven by his desire to atone for his past misdeeds and the death of a father figure. He's effectively Peter Parker in the Batsuit. Even the Rogues Gallery is pretty similar to Spidey's. (Inque = Sandman, Spellbinder = Mysterio, Stalker = Kraven, Shriek = Shocker, Blight = Green Goblin, etc.)
  • Squick: Shriek's creepy little mutant henchman, who likes nothing more than to sit on the floor with a tuning fork that directly stimulates a body's pleasure center. Complete with eyes rolling back and moaning. Who else needs a shower after that?
    • One of Inque's darker attempts at killing Batman. She puts the squeeze on Terry in order to force his mouth open before shoving herself down his throat in order to suffocate him. After Bruce uses a fire hose to get rid of her, we get a Gory Discretion Shot that saves us from the view of Terry actually puking, but we hear every agonizing heave and see Inque's leftovers spilling onto the ground.
  • Strangled by the Red String: Terry and Melanie. They met seconds after he got conveniently dumped by Dana, talked a little, kissed under the rain then they're a couple and Mel is unwilling to leave Gotham because of him. Maybe justified by the length of the episode.
  • They Wasted a Perfectly Good Character: An issue fans took with the series was that several interesting villains were never used for more than three episodes at most before getting dropped for no apparent reason.
    • Blight was the biggest offender. He was the Big Bad of the first season and set up as the Big Bad of the series period... But nope, he never returned after the first season's finale. The character did reappear in the comics, however — his body survived, but he doesn't seem to remember anything about his past life outside of hatred and a desire for vengeance for Batman and Paxton Powers, and was eventually made into a target for the Stalker, and was eventually killed by being caught in a blast furnace.
    • Given the number of shippers rooting for her, Melanie may also count as this. For one of the most popular romantic pairings in the show, you'd think she'd appear in more than three episodes. She does appear again in the comics though.
    • Most of Terry's supporting cast was sorely underused, most prominently his mother Mary, followed by his brother Matt and his girlfriend Dana. For all that they tried to make Terry different from Bruce, they neglected the characters in Terry's life that Bruce could never have had.
    • The writers admitted in retrospective that they didn't do much with Dana outside of making her a "nagging girlfriend."
    • Zander. Great Shadow Archetype, interesting version of a Sheltered Aristocrat, then, well... he's turned into a dinosaur and killed off.
    • Victor Fries is one of the few members of Batman's original rogues gallery to be given a comeback, able to maintain a conversation with Terry (unlike, say, Bane), given new motivations (either revenge on Powers or atoning for his past), and given a new, enhanced suit. Then he commits suicide. His perspective on the new Gotham and the new Batman are never explored.
  • What Do You Mean, It's for Kids?: Violence ? Check. People dying horribly ? Check. Lots of sexual undertones ? Check. Drugs ? Check. Yeah, definitely a kid-friendly show.

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