Wild Mass Guessing for Super Mario Odyssey.
- But it's really a good one who's trying to find the other four and help bring them back to their senses and help out against Bowser.
- Jossed, It's some form of ghost hat creature.
- Super Mario Land: Mario's first handheld adventure took place in the desert-like Sarasland, and featured an alien as the main antagonist. In addition to pyramids being associated with aliens in the first place, the floating pyramid seen in the Desert Level seems very UFO-like. The rideable lion in this world also resembles the lion boss from Mario Land. Maybe this place is Sarasland itself, and will mark the return of Tatanga as a boss, and Princess Daisy as a character in the main series.
- While it's very unlikely that this place is Sarasaland, as it seems more inspired by the Mexican Day of the Deadnote , it may also be filled with references to Sarasaland.
- On the other hand, there is a pyramid shown, so it may be related somehow.
- ...about as tangentially as the pyramids in Super Mario 64 and Super Mario Galaxy were related...
- While it's very unlikely that this place is Sarasaland, as it seems more inspired by the Mexican Day of the Deadnote , it may also be filled with references to Sarasaland.
- Yoshi's Island: One of Yoshi's first appearances was in a dessert-themed game, Yoshi's Cookie, and Yoshi is well known for having an insatiable appetite. It would stand to reason that the Dessert World may be a homage to Mario's Green Ride.
- Wario Land/WarioWare: In comparison to Mario, Wario has always been more industrial than his rival, being obsessed with garnering treasure and making money, even opening his own Microgame Factory to fuel his Greed. The Industrial-looking forest fits Wario's character well, even bearing a resemblance to Greenhorn Forest. Maybe Wario will finally make his grand return as a Boss, and Waluigi will make his long-awaited debut in the main series.
- Jossed. There are other areas that evoke previous 3D Mario titles, however. The Seaside Kingdom evokes Sunshine, the Moon Kingdom evokes Galaxy, and the Mushroom Kingdom] evokes 64.
- Jossed.
- Jossed, sadly. All there is is a Luigi outfit which can be unlocked.
- Semi-Jossed — Peach's crown is Tiara, a hat spirit, but she could still be playable at some point.
- Fully jossed- Peach is not playable.
- Confirmed by a tweet from Super Mario UK.
- Since lots of people featured within the game so far have hats, I think it's safe to say everyone is wearing a Crazy Cap. Mario, Bowser, the 3 rabbit dudes, a Hammer Bro (he can be seen wearing a chef's hat at one point), and maybe even Peach, since her crown seems to have been replaced by a tiara.
- Jossed. After Mario's hat is crushed, it is possessed and returned to good condition by Cappy. All of the other hats he wear are purchased at Crazy Cap, and Cappy just possesses those, too.
- It's not like we know anyone else sporting a snazzy white top hat with plans involving making Bowser and Peach marry — do we?
- The problem with the above is that Count Bleck is already reformed.
- The chances of an RPG-exclusive villain returning in a main-series game are pretty much nil anyway. Lately Nintendo doesn't even seem to want them in the RPGs.
- Jossed. Bowser's hat is mechanical in nature, and is actually used to defeat him. Nintendo planned on making his hat an evil Bonneter at one point, but didn't go through with it.
- It wouldn't be the first time...
- Jossed, though, along with the scrapped "Bowser has a Cappy" idea, he was going to use it to Capture Peach during the final battle.
- Um... the game is confirmed to be about globe trotting, Mario's world has always had strange creatures in it, and the worlds in this are clearly not the size of Galaxy planets. Also, the ship has a sail on it.
- Jossed so far as canon goes.
- Alternatively, Bowser will be able to use his top hat in the same way as Mario can use Cappy, maybe even to the point of Capturing other entities.
- Jossed. Same tactics as the first fight.
- It's much more likely that Luigi or Yoshi would be playable before any of those characters, and we haven't seen any major hints towards their even being in the game yet.
- Jossed... Although Yoshi is playable, just not in the way you'd think.
- Well, it's less of a "replacement" and more that Cappy repairs the tattered hat by merging with it, but otherwise this was pretty spot-on if the E3 trailer is any indication.
- Jossed. The caps don't add any extra abilities. Cappy can be used as a boomerang and a springboard from the start, and no matter what hat he inhabits.
- Jossed on the first point: a couple of Toads can be seen in the game and Captain Toad is one of them at New Donk City. Also, the Toad Brigade continues to have a presence across the game, and in the Mushroom Kingdom, they're more prominent.
- The color scheme isn't really a Waluigi thing. It's Wario who's associated with purple and yellow. Waluigi's more purple and black.
- Granted, but purple is the dominant color for both Waluigi's and Crazy Cap's color schemes. The yellow on the Crazy Cap logo is also a region at the front of the hat, matching the placement of Waluigi's yellow emblem. Under this theory, it would make more sense for the color scheme to be based off of that of Waluigi's cap than his other clothing.
- By the way, jossed as far as canon. The Crazy Cap outlets are run by local NPCS and besides the complementary colors of yellow and purple being used because they're complements, there is not the slightest hint that Wario or Waluigi have anything to do with the business.
- The desert area has huge chunks, sometimes pillars of ice. That's not normal at all.
- Jossed, as by completing the main plot of that Kingdom, most of the ice gets melted. The angry god/boss of the area is partially responsible for freezing the desert.
- Said crowd will also serve as an obstacle to prevent Mario from doing the stereotypical heroic rescuing-the-damsel thing.
- I will laugh if this actually turns out to be confirmed. In a good way of course. It'd make my entire year!
- The idea mentioned doesn't happen, but there's still some Epic Fails which Bowser goes through.
- There is a side area in which the main obstacle is a crowd of people going the opposite way that Mario is trying to.
- I will laugh if this actually turns out to be confirmed. In a good way of course. It'd make my entire year!
- Jossed so far as official material. There are no real mob implications in the game.
- Given the fact that Mario's in his mid-20's, and Bowser's around the same age as Jr. in Yoshi's Island, he's probably in his late-20's to early-30's. Not quite there yet.
- The theme of the story is a romantic competition between Bowser and Mario for Peach, so they're supposed to be about the same age. It also helps that fellow boss Madame Broode, implied to be middle-aged, looks a fair bit older than Bowser for it.
- Jossed.
- Hyrule (similar to the one in Sonic Lost World, but larger).
- A Village.
- The Great Cave Offensive.
- Inkopolis.
- Alola.
- Zebes.
- Corneria.
- The Underworld.
- Green Hill Zone.
- Dr. Wily's Castle.
- A maze.
Seems to be Jossed, as they will unlock costumes and give hints.
- Indeed, they are all Jossed.
- And if Tatanga shows up, Wario may come along for the ride. (Remember that Tatanga was actually working for Wario during the Super Mario Land games — he distracted Mario while Wario was busy stealing Mario's castle.)
- Jossed.
So far, many old iconic 2D Mario items have been added to 3D Mario games: Fire Flower, Tanooki Leaf, Mega Mushroom, etc. And now, the feather from Super Mario World seems to be the only iconic single-game item that has yet to make a 3D appearance. The fact that the feather finally makes its return to the Mario Kart series in Mario Kart 8 Deluxe after only being used in the first game helps support the feather could make a comeback.
It would work like the Super Mario 64 Wing Cap, where Mario can gain air and glide around freely. He could run or triple jump to gain air. Imagine Mario flying around in a yellow cape above the city as an epic homage to Superman flying around the buildings of the metropolis.
Plus, how exactly is Mario going to fight a giant robot centipede on a buildingtop with no platforms or ledges in sight to grab or climb onto? Is he gonna jump in a fighter jet and shoot it down? He could grab a feather and then earn a cape to fly around the building for the fight. Mario would be flying around and dodging lasers while (if the game allows power-ups to be combined) shooting fireballs, or flying close and using a cape spin to attack, or even tossing his hat as an attack.
- Jossed on the cape being used to fight the Mecha-Wiggler — it knocks you off the building and descends to the ground right before the fight begins, you use Sherms to attack it. Also, it looks like power-ups will play a significantly smaller role than they did in the Galaxy games. However, it's entirely possible that a cape will be featured as part of a costume you can buy (though the cape may or may not enable slow-falling and/or Video Game Flight (probably not if the costumes are mostly cosmetic), and if it does, it'll probably only be available in the late- or post-game as a trade-off for being a colossal Game-Breaker).
- Fully Jossed, as it never shows up.
- Jossed. While Purple Toad's role of shopkeeper for three Crazy Caps alongside Yellow Toad could be considered bigger than his role as Mailtoad, Green Toad's role is as a Satellite Character for the rest of the Brigade, definitely a step down from his role as Banktoad.
- Construction Hat: This hat could make Mario look like a construction worker (similar to his appearance in the artwork for Super Mario Maker).
- Confirmed.
- Chef's Hat: Mario would resemble a chef (similar to his appearance in Yoshi's Cookie), and have the ability to throw different types of food at his enemies.
- Confirmed for the chef hat itself. Food-tossing can happen, but only by picking up food in the world, not as part of any power-up effect.
- Baseball Cap: In this form, Mario can use a baseball bat to hit tougher opponents.
- Football Helmet: Mario will gain Super-Strength, and be able to throw enemies far away.
- Top Hat: Mario would wear a red and blue tuxedo.
- Well, it's not Red and Blue, but confirmed for a white version.
- A Knight's Helmet: This would give Mario the ability to use a sword and shield.
- Wing Cap: Will return from Super Mario 64 and allow Mario to fly.
- A Cowboy Hat: This will turn Mario into a sheriff from the old west and be able to use a pistol.
- Using Amiibo will give him hats based on other Nintendo characters.
- Link: uses the Master Sword and Hylian shield.
- BoTW Link: He can use the paraglider to cross wide spaces.
- Kirby: grants limited hovering.
- Captain Falcon: the Signature Falcon attacks.
- Mega Man: You get a blaster akin to his Rabbids crossover.
- Duck Hunt: A duck sits on his head that lets him glide across areas like a Tanooki Suit.
- R.O.B: Lasers.
- Luigi: Luigi's attributes for movement.
- Rosalina: The spin attack replaces a default move like the double jump.
- Diddy Kong: Pop guns.
- Sonic: Faster running speed and a homing attack.
- Yoshi: Flutter jump for extra height and egg throw.
- Wario: Can dash attack to break blocks.
- No costume gives you any new moves, weapons, or abilities, so those aspects are all jossed.
- DK will be the game's first mini-boss fight, as a Call-Back to Mario's origin.
- Jossed, although he is a mini boss in two 8-bit sections.
- Donkey Kong is the Mayor. Because it would be funny.
- Jossed. Pauline is stated to be the mayor of New Donk City.
- Obviously, Dixie and Diddy have to join in, too.
- There's a Diddy outfit, but no in-person appearance from either.
- Well, does The Moon count?
- The Moon is officially the destination because Bowser wants the grandest event he can have. No Mushroom Kingdom laws being skirted in the game's canon.
- Jossed. It appears to be some sort of hat spirit that possesses Mario's cap.
- No Nabbit showing up in the game, so Jossed.
- Paris
- Kind of confirmed with Bubblaine. It's based off of France for sure, but not off of Paris specifically.
- Texas (As it was presented in the Old West.)
- You get a cowboy outfit in the Sand Kingdom, but that's the most Western it gets.
- Medieval Europe
- The Ruined Kingdom looks like a devastated European fantasy castle, but is mostly just a stage for a boss fight.
- Australia
- Ancient Greece
- Confirmed with Lake Lamode, though as pointed out on the main page under Fantasy Counterpart Culture, it also takes cues from France.
- Hawaii
- Transylvania
- Antarctica
- Ancient Egypt
- Egypt
- The Sand Kingdom introduces the Sphynx character, but is otherwise Mesoamerican in its theming.
- South Africa?
- Its visual landscape will incorporate giant wooden masks and idols.
- Asia: It will be the later levels as a whole.
- Confirmed with Bowser's Castle.
- Russia
- Mario dress up as Bowser, while boss is an evil version of Mario.
- Confirmed with Shiveria, but the Russian Reversal is Jossed.
- Jossed; she is a Universally Beloved Leader and there is no information about her political rise.
- Jossed. Galaxy got darker than Odyssey, so this one wasn't that dramatic, though it has similar scope and grandeur.
The Hat Mario has is a Rabbit child who saw the plan unfold initially, tried to warn the Princess of the Rice Kingdom, and attempted to escape to Earth to avoid being detained after that failed, where he bumps into Mario. The child is too young to assume a terrestrial form without potentially dying or reverting to a regular Earth Rabbit, so he fuses with Mario's hat since he treasures it so much. Gameplay potential aside, it may be possible that Mario can upgrade the hat with tokens for jumping abilities with a few segments requiring Mario to gather a power-up that outright modifies the cap form.
You are only brought into awareness of the Child's transformation abilities during stages, such as having the hat stolen by monkeys and placed on an idol, bringing it to life. It may also be possible that there may be an Evil Chancellor who may be in on the act, who may possibly defy Bowser when push comes to shove. Bowser, in a last act of desperation, places his (unconscious) hat on something large, maybe a gigantic statue, steering the reigns. The stakes have already gotten huge, so they may as well as have gargantuan bosses.
This will reintroduce the Rabbit Cap from Super Mario Land 2: 6 Golden Coins as a transformation, as well as slight musical queues to the game. As an 11th-Hour Superpower, the Prince will outright enable his transformation biology (due to being a child), during a full moon, mirroring the powerset of Flying Mario from Super Mario Galaxy (this specific form would be dubbed as Lunar Mario). Maybe if possible, they may introduce a challenge mode with an in-game clock (if the story has some vague thing like 7 nights to a full moon, or whatever, implementing a form of Gameplay and Story Integration) and an Alternate Universe (again, like Super Mario Galaxy) where you play through the events of the game as Luigi.
- Jossed all around. Mario's hat is possessed by a hat spirit, and the rabbits are hired by Bowser.
- Confirmed. His Cat Mario sprite from the game appears on a building and his Construction Worker outfit is a costume◊.
- There's also an 8-bit section near the end where you play as Bowser with a red hat and mustache and Peach on his back, much like what the Big Mushroom does to Bowser's appearance in Maker.
- Jossed, kinda. Cappy can v=be a sort of second playable character, be it together with Mario, or in co-op. But in the traditional sense, yes, Mario is the only character you can play as.
- So, basically the ending of Mario Party 2?
- JOSSED, and badly.
- I love how it's gotten to the point where, when talking about the reveal trailer, you can mention on name that wasn't even mentioned in the video proper and people will know what you're talking about.
- Confirmed. Player 2 can control Cappy for co-op.
- Technically confirmed. Bowser captured people from various Kingdoms offscreen to attend the wedding, including Pauline. Otherwise, you're just saving Pauline's city, but she's safely out of danger.
And yes, the thought that they would set up a Relationship Upgrade for Mario and Peach after so long does seem odd, but it's what seems to be happening to me.
- It's actually the other way around.
- Or to make it even more awesome, in some sort of cutscene, Bowser throws his hat and Mario throws his. (If Bowser's hat is also sentient, this could easily work.) They both successfully possess each other. Bowser possesses Mario, Mario possesses Bowser.
- Confirmed. Mario captures Bowser after the main part of the fight for an Escape Sequence. Whether or not this is considered part of the actual boss fight is an open question.
- Nope. That's just a friendly ghost land.
- Nintendo is actually thinking about making him a side mascot, for merchandise. Also, it's stated that they're going to reveal his backstory later, as they're not ready to now. So this is plausible and could probably end up happening.
- Jossed. In the end, Peach decides she doesn't want to be with either of the two at the moment.
- At least partially confirmed: new artwork shows that Peach's new tiara is apparently a member of the same species. Her name is "Tiara" and she is Cappy's sister.
- Now completely confirmed by the Cap Kingdom.
- The Mario franchise as a whole isn't really consistent when it comes to scale.
- It's implied the Donkey Kong incident was instrumental to the city's identity, so it seems like the city became that way because of the kidnapping.
- Bonus points if it becomes a full-out musical number with Mario, Peach, and other characters dancing and Pauline on the stage singing.
- Jossed. It's used during a specific moment in New Donk City and the Darker Side of the Moon, but not the credits.
- Kirby: Planet Robobot already did this. And it's not just Planet Robobot, either. In fact, the Boss Rush as the last game mode had started way back, since Kirby Super Star, actually! And if you want to get really meta, Kirby's Adventure has a boss rush mode when you complete the game. Although... I'm being off-topic here, aren't I?
- Boss Rush exists since Mega Man and Super Mario Galaxy 2 had some too.
- Jossed.
- Using a Nostalgia Level from 64 would be very hard, since the levels in Odyssey are so much bigger than the levels in 64 and the levels in 64 were very self-contained. However, pretty much the only things keeping you from walking or swimming directly between some levels of Sunshine were Invisible Walls and kill-planes. So it's feasible for the entirety of Isle Delfino, or maybe just a large chunk of it, to be a level in Odysseynote .
- Given that Isle Delfino is clearly visible on the world map, this is actually looking pretty plausible; however, time will tell whether this is actually hinting at a Delfino-set level or simply an Easter egg.
- Semi-Confirmed. Mushroom Kingdom appears as a secret level. It’s not an exact replica of Peach’s Castle from 64, given the design seems to change every game, but it is clearly inspired by it. Power Moons are replaced by Power Stars and Yoshi can be found on the roof. Also, the Seaside Kingdom takes cues from Sunshine, but it's more subtle.
- Well, given what happens at the end... Maybe?
- Unlikely; we see Bowser throwing his hat repeatedly in trailers, which would mean its control over Bowser would be broken when it leaves his head. Additionally, he shows no distinct signs of having a different appearance than usual, while beings captured by Mario always bear his familiar mustache. However, it is possible his hat is an entity like Cappy who is allied with Bowser, and who will allow Bowser to battle Mario on equal footing in the Final Battle.
- Jossed. It's just Bowser.
- Daisy will be kidnapped to be Peach's Maid of Honor.
- Luigi will be Bowser's Best Man, whether he wants to or not.
- Sort of confirmed, but not quite like like that. Various members from the previous kingdoms appear at the Moon Kingdom as wedding guests against their will. (And neither Daisy nor Luigi are among them.)
- Jossed.
- Since it was confirmed that the short one in green is named "Topper," at least one of the others will be named after the kind of hat they wear, or at least a type of hat. Maybe "Trilby?"
- Jossed. Spewart (blue), Topper (green), Rango (lanky), and Hariet (yes, with only one R) are their names.
- Given how unwilling Peach looks on the posters◊, it looks pretty one-sided. She also rejects Bowser at the end.
- Jossed.
- Jossed, sadly. He can't capture anything larger than a T-rex, anyway, and even that puts a strain on Cappy.
- Kinda Jossed.
- So, all those MarioxPauline shippers... I have been waiting a long time to use this. *starts singing to the tune of "It's Beginning To Look A Lot Like Christmas"* It's beginning to look a lot like incest / Subtext burning hot / A carelessly chosen word / Makes everything seem absurd / Brothers and sisters screwing, what the fuuuuudddgggeeee?
- Also jossed. Pauline asks Mario if he remembers the day the original Donkey Kong took place, and in her quiz, her most notable involvement is stated to be "kidnapped by ape".
- Jossed. They were just taking a job, but this backfires for them when Mario wins, as their credibility is destroyed.
- Confirmed, and not just helmets, apparently. Most NPCs are kept out of Mario's control due to this.
- Additionally, 3D Land and 3D World has Mario's small form without his hat, and Bowser makes a point to destroy his hat.
- More or less jossed: Mario can break Brick Blocks.
- Alternatively, it'll reveal that the two realized that they were Better as Friends, and that Pauline has no hard feelings towards Mario.
- The events of Donkey Kong are alluded to, but the game sidesteps any romantic past between them entirely.
- Jossed. No third party shows up to take control over their kingdoms, and Bowser is the final boss.
- Pauline and Mario were once an item, so it's possible she feels jealous of Peach, and with no reason to dislike Bowser, it's possible he bribed her in some way into helping him. If Peach were married, she'd be "off the market" and Pauline would have a chance to rekindle her relationship with Mario. Possible clues to this are in the lyrics from Pauline's song from the trailer. "Did you know it's time to raise our sails, it's freedom like you never knew" might mean "You can't chase after Peach all your life. Leave her to her fate and you'll be happier." The line "Don't need bags or a pass, say the word and I'll be there in a flash, you could say my hat is off to you," and "You should know that you're my Super Star, no one else could take me this far, I'm flipping the switch, get ready for this" and also, "Spin the wheel, take a chance, every journey starts with a new romance, a new world's calling out to you". All of these could be declarations of love and promises of loyalty that he could have without the hassle. Exactly how willing an accomplice she is could be scaled to just about anywhere.
- Jossed as far as canon.
- Pauline has come back, why not bring back some other past characters? It seems possible.
- Jossed.
- If Pauline has returned as a supporting character, it's possible they could have brought the big guy back too.
- Confirmed... Kinda. It's more of a mini-boss kind of thing at the end of the New Donk City festival, and it's in an 8-bit section.
- Seems this may be an Obligatory Joke here.
- Sadly, not in this case.
- Jossed - but you can unlock a Luigi outfit with his amiibo, or by buying it in the postgame. Luigi instead hosts an online multiplayer game mode.
- The moon certainly seems to be involved somehow.
- Jossed; the Moon Kingdom is actually the Very Definitely Final Dungeon.
- There was artwork of Mario in a Samurai outfit published for Super Mario Run. The outfit didn't make any sense in Super Mario Run's context. Odyssey, however...
- It's also most likely going to be the Lake Kingdom due to its generic name and the fact we know nothing about it.
- Jossed on the Lake Kingdom; the actual Japan-inspired level is Bowser's Kingdom, which features pagodas and traditional Japanese architecture rather than being the typical lava level.
- They will be selected from the globe on the Odyssey, just like normal worlds, but they aren't captioned, akin to the ???-planet in Kirby Super Star's Milky Way Wishes.
- Jossed. Some kingdoms are smaller, and two are very small, but they all come up during the plot and all have names.
- Jossed
- Jossed.
- Confirmed: the final level is the Moon Kingdom, and the Broodals have a base on the Moon's Dark Side.
- Confirmed: The group picture you get at the end of the unlocked special ending shows Cappy separate from a still-hatted Mario.
- I think the September Direct said that scanning Wedding Bowser's amiibo gets you his wedding outfit in the game, which seems a bit suspect. What good would unlocking that outfit do if he wasn't playable?
- Given that it turned out that the outfit the Peach wedding amiibo unlocks is her wedding dress for Mario, the Bowser outfit is likely for Mario as well. While this doesn't completly Joss the possibility that Bowser could be playable in any way, shape or form, it does seem to Joss the idea that the amiibo outfits are just for Bowser (and Peach).
- Confirmed! The videos were taken down for copyright infringement, but the final boss was leaked, and it is shown that Mario captures Bowser after the fight for an Escape Sequence. It seems to be only for this particular sequence, but this is still the first time we get to see Bowser playable in a mainstream title.
- Playable Bowser returns for the very last level in the game, which is a test of all your skills.
- Jossed. Peach turns down Mario's proposal, and Isle Delfino does not appear in the game.
- Jossed. Cappy stays loyal to Mario throughout the game.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. At most, gigantic Piranha Plants serve as mini-bosses.
- Cappy will apparently be invincible during gameplay, so him being Killed Off for Real seems unlikely without Gameplay and Story Segregation. A Disney Death would still work, though.
- Completly Jossed.
- Nope, he doesn't get married full stop in the end.
- Jossed...She does have an adventure postgame, but only as an NPC popping up in the different areas.
- Jossed.
- Jossed. He does not give any backstory on himself, and he has always been a ghost-like creature. At least, it likely is. Nintendo have said they are willing to reveal his backstory, and 3D Mario games have usually been darker than 2D games (excluding Super Paper Mario). Who knows, it may be a Tear Jerker.
- A. It's the Greater-Scope Villain of the game, and will reveal itself by removing itself from Bowser and becoming its true form.
- B. It's The Dragon to Bowser alongside his Broodals.
- Actually, it's none of the above - it's a mechanical top hat with boxing gloves. So... Jossed.
Meanwhile, Mario and Peach head off on their honeymoon to Isle Delfino after throwing the Broodals in the dungeon for their part in an illegal wedding, while Luigi and Daisy watch over the Mushroom Kingdom. Unfortunately, though, they soon find themselves having to deal with Wario and Waluigi, setting up the unlockable mode.
- Um... Have you seen the size of the ring Bowser intends to use?
- Does Luigi's Balloon World count as an unlockable mode?
- All jossed, by the way. No priest, and Mario prevents even sham proceedings from beginning.
- This is how he can use Grand Theft Me on other people.
- Mario is not the first person in the series to be killed, brought back as undead, and revived to life.
- Nor would it even be the first time for Mario himself to come back from death, he was once revived with star power.
- Not saying this is plausible, but there is a zombie costume now...
- Whatever name the Ruined Kingdom had before, they didn't heed this. They pulled Moons out of the nodes in the form of lightning so much that the nodes collapsed, and ruined the Kingdom. The Lord of Lightning is unfairly blamed for this, power was pulled out of him as well.
- "Well, yeah, if you're constantly sucking power out of everything and being grimdark and not building anything, nothing will be left!"
- Mushroom Kingdom: Possibly Belgium or the Netherlands, if so, likely the former due to it being not too flat.
- Alternately, the Mushroom Kingdom is simply the Mushroom Kingdom. Either not strictly based on anything, or its a mishmash of so many things you can't pin it down to being one thing.
- Sarassaland: Australia, as it has a desert, like the Birabuto Kingdom. But also some grassy areas.
- Sarasaland consists of Egypt (Birabuto Kingdom), Bermuda (Muda Kingdom), Easter Island (Easton Kingdom) and China (Chai Kingdom).
- Isle Delfino: The Bahamas, home to prominent tourist resorts.
- Rougeport: Detroit. You know, with all the crime and such.
- This is why they look fancier than the other Bonneters. However, they are humble about their position and don't really make a statement of it.
- Just want to make it clear, I'm joking.
- Cappy could have known Mario's hat size because he was on his head briefly before transforming into his iconic M cap, also the size might have been on the ruined hat
- The alternate Luigi who presents the balloon minigame knew of Luigi's death and took his role from New Super Mario Bros. U onwards to be nice to the main-universe Mario.
- It's possible that Luigi technically didn't lie about Tiara being his sister. The two are unrelated, yes, but rather two ghosts that met in the Cap Kingdom and became Family of Choice to each other. "Tiara" is a little sister in spirit to "Cappy"...which kind of makes her like a little sister to Mario as well by proxy.
- I love this theory.
This is also evidenced by the fact that, in addition to the Odyssey itself, there are what appear to be remnants of other 'hat ships' partially buried underneath the ground at or near the Odyssey's original location (they're pretty rusted though so it's easy to mistake them for just another piece of rock in the ground).
- I don't know what you mean by "close ties", as it's obviously a prehistoric area without any civilization. It seems that it was merely a popular site for Bonneter explorers to visit due to it being so close, and that the old ships are remnants of past expeditions.
- He's officially in his twenties. Not middle-aged.
- Actually, if you get all of the Power Moons, you get a harder version of the Final Boss. Beating that will get you this picture◊, showing the game's cast, including Cappy, separate from Mario's perfectly-intact hat.
He's everything she could possibly want in a romantic interest. Bowser is indeed large, powerful, and affectionate, but his ego and malice are immediate turnoffs. Mario is heroic, kind, and devoted, but his physical and social stature make it hard for her to see him as anything more than a close friend and protector. She would be happier with a partner who possessed the best qualities of both of them... and having literally seen it at the climax of this game, she finds it hard to bring herself to settle for one or the other afterward.
...and that is one reason why her next course of action is to strengthen her friendship with Tiara. As long as her kingdom retains close ties with Bonneton, it remains possible for her dream suitor to exist again.
- So you're saying that Peach considers personality and appearances/social status equal? That's pretty shallow if you ask me. If that were the truth, she doesn't deserve either of them. Logically, I'd rather go with the nicer and less attractive person than the more conventially attractive but rude person.
- Cascade Falls is Dinosaur Land
- Sand Kingdom is Desert Land/Desert Hill
- Either Lake Kingdom or Seaside Kingdom could be Water Land/Sea Side.
- Snow Kingdom is Ice Land/Iced Land.
- Bowser's Kingdom is of course Dark Land/Castle of Koopa.
This of course raises the question of why the demographics are different than what was shown before. One possibility is that, since these areas are clearly more localized, there are other settlements filled with humans and toads, with the former acting as the various ruling families just like in the Mushroom Kingdom. Option number two is to take the statement that Super Mario Bros. 3 is an in-universe play/movie to mean that it is an adaptation of events that really occurred in the setting, but everyone in the kingdoms outside of the Mushroom Kingdom got a Race Lift.
- In the Mario lore, because Kingdoms are synonymous to countries, not every Kingdom has aristrocrats. "This of course raises the question of why the demographics are different than what was shown before." As said before, the Kingdoms are entire countries. Because the levels themselves are relatively small in size, we have yet to see every inch of every Kingdom. Heck, in the distance we can even see more of the simply unexplored Kingdom.
- Actually, looking at my own theory, it doesn't make much sense, and there is nothing to support that the octopi are familiar faces there. Instead, it seems more likely that Bowser let him take over tyrant-style, and his title is how he views his role there, declaring himself in charge. His French theme does suggest that he hails from the Seaside Kingdom, but probably not Bubblaine.
- Well, barring his outfit, that is.
- Confirmed! He's not playable, but he hosts the DLC minigame Luigi's Balloon World.
- Actually, it is on the globe! It just isn't coloured. Likely because it'll be a future DLC, or is just an easter egg.
- Isle Delfino. Aside from the reason mentioned in an above WMG, it would be relatively easy to bring into the game compared to making a completely new area. The blueprints for it already exist in Sunshine, and it’s already designed with open-ended exploration in mind. All they would need to do is give it and its residents an HD touch-up, compose the new music, give newer enemies and bosses to fit with this Island and put the collectibles in new places.
- Hyrule, specifically based on the Breath of the Wild incarnation. These two games share much of their audience and have more than a few similarities, so having a crossover between them has a lot of potential and would certainly make money. Aside from that, the reasons for doing this are similar to those stated for Isle Delfino.
- An expanded version of the Ruined Kingdom. It’s clear that this kingdom has a lot of history and what was shown of it in the game is only scratching the surface. Perhaps new DLC missions would involve exploring the rest of the kingdom, uncovering some of that history, maybe even Capturing the Ruined Dragon. Plus, a lot of the assets they would need are already in the base game.
- Sarrasaland. After Pauline appeared in New Donk. It seems like a logical next step.
- Note that Sarasaland is divided into "kingdoms" just like Odyssey's world. And the Birabuto Kingdom even has a sphinx in it.
- Dinosaur Land. Includes several references to it's game of origin, and some more dinosaurs to capture in addition to the familiarSuper Mario World enemies. The Special Zone can be a sub-area...that leads to more sub-areas.
- A Ghost House/Big Boo's Haunt level. (Luigi's Mansion?)
- Space!
- The Cosmic Kingdom, which would feature the Comet Observatory as Odyssey's landing point and would otherwise take place on a series of planetoids.
- A "Plumber Kingdom" or possibly even a "Luigi Kingdom" (Luigi having his own kingdom would be through some Noodle Incident during the events of Mario's story; perhaps by saving a kingdom offscreen from complete destruction, it was renamed in his image?) explaining where Luigi has been the whole time, mainly running on Rule of Funny. Either way, it could contain references to the original Mario Bros., as New Donk City/the Metro Kingdom has several references to Donkey Kong. The regional outfits could include Mario's blue color scheme from the box art, or the yellow and blue palette swaps in the Game Boy Advance ports of it, since it would be nice to have a blue Palette Swap of Mario's hat in the game. Given that the Classic, Luigi, Wario in his Wario Ware outfit, Classic Wario and Waluigi outfits account for other colors.
- Classic Kingdom, which would feature a remake of at least one of Super Mario 64's painting worlds, either as floating islands or a combined landmass (perhaps Tall Tall Mountain, Bob-Omb Battlefield, Dire Dire Docks, and Thwomp Fortress could be meshed together, with Hazy Maze Cave sprawling underneath). The brochure would discuss how painters from the Mushroom Kingdom would travel to the Classic Kingdom to paint its history.
- Here's an idea for that. The levels could be attached by a series of land corridors or otherwise the slingshots Mario uses in the game. With the netrence to Tall, Tall Mountain's slide now being the entrance to Hazy Maze Cave. The river from Tall, Tall Mountain could flow into the Hazy Maze Cave, where is in turn flows to Dire Dire Docks. Meanwhile, Hazy Maze could could be a described as an ancient abandoned mine that was abandoned due to gas in the title maze. That way, we could connect all five levels seamlessly.
- Alternatively, it could just be the Battlefield section. Bob-Omb Battlefield already has a cameo in the map that Hint Toad reads. Most of the original stars would remain intact, with the Silver Stars becoming moon pieces and some red coins becoming Power Moons. The Wing Cap objective can become a Glydon course. Koopa the Quick becomes a Roving Racer. The Island in the Sky can feature a warp portrait. Bowser in the Dark World or Bowser in the Sky can be a "Small World" course within.
- If Odyssey had a Classic Kingdom, wouldn't it just be in those 2d sprite sections?
- A Storybook Kingdom, where the Odyssey lands at an arena featuring warp pipes to different worlds, taking Mario to Hyrule or Popstar or Kanto.
- A Painted Kingdom. Made to look like a stylized oil painting (almost like Painted Swampland in NSMBU) and composed of lush islands surrounded by poison paint, perhaps coming from waterfalls as well, filling a similar niche to the Luncheon Kingdom by being ultra-stylized and surrounded by deadly liquid.
- A Comic Book inspired Kingdom.
- Referee Outfit
- Rapper Outfit (from Mario Pinball Land Japanese commercial)
- Tennis Outfit (either from earlier Mario Tennis games, or Mario Tennis Aces)
- Donkey Kong Suit (We got Diddy Kong suit, why not DK?)
- Peach's gown and crown
- Daisy's gown and crown
- Rosalina's gown and crown
- Toad Outfit, with his "cap" (or part of his head) and his blue vest.
- SMB Classic Outfit (brown and red color scheme)
- Party Outfit◊ (from Mario Party : The Top 100 cover art)
- President Outfit◊ (from Mario Hanafuda cards)
- Striker Outfit (from Mario Strikers series)
- Power-up form suits/color schemes (Fire Mario, Ice Mario, Tanooki Mario, Cloud Mario, etc)
- Bowser Suit (not his wedding suit, but a suit of Bowser), with his head as the hat and the rest of his body as the outfit.
- Super Mario Odyssey 2/Super Mario Voyagers: You start up with the lineup of playable characters from Super Mario Bros. 2 and Super Mario 3D World which includes Mario, Luigi, Princess Peach, Toad, and Yoshi as both a playable character and a rideable companion. The Power Star Wands and the Sprixie Princesses have been taken by Bowser to gain control over the entire Mushroom Planet, and even some friends from the Wario (both Land and Ware) Series, the Donkey Kong Series, Mario spinoffs, Super Mario Land and the Yoshi Series are taken by Bowser as insurance against our heroes coming to the rescue. Unlocking more playable characters along the way by rescuing them, you must journey with our five starting heroes through the first eight worlds (and the four final and bonus worlds) so you can save the Sprixie Princesses and recover the Power Star Wands to use them to banish Bowser and his forces away from the Mushroom Planet.
- Super Mario Galaxy Odyssey. Redefining the concept of "open world", it adds Galaxy's planetoid mechanics to Odyssey's formula.
- Unfortunately doubtful. Really, Nintendo doesn't seem keen on the idea of returning to Galaxy. Besides, I'm fairly sure that Odyssey was already their attempt at "continuing" Galaxy.
- Super Mario Multiverse. Think of like a mix of two ideas but involving Alternate Continuities and Spin-offs of the Mario Multiverse with the Time Travel concept. Not to mention, not only many Mario Heroes and Heroines would be playable for the ultimate Heroes Assemble moment, it would also be Mario's very own Dream Match Game where we get the already Awesome Bosses from the library taken into more harder and insaner levels. If Link can get one, then so can our favorite Plumber.
It's also safe to assume that Wingo will be back for revenge on the Toads that humiliated him, as the Captain Toad quote found in the Lost Kingdom implies that Wingo continues to harass the little guy. But what if, this time, he's moved on from collecting treasure, instead intending to steal foods from people—to win the heart of Cookatiel?
- The Plains Kingdom: A place based on Ireland.
- Sarasaland: Only this time, it is based on the Netherlands to better fit Daisy's motif.
- The Desert Kingdom: based on Australia's Outback. With NPCs based on Kangaroos
- The Mountain Kingdom: A place based on the Appalachia.
- Swamp Kingdom: Based on Madagascar.
- Isle Delfino: Shown as a fusion of the original Delfino Plaza, Tampa, New Orleans, Rio de Janiero, Puerto Princesa and Miami.
- The Haunted Kingdom: Based on Eastern Europe in general, but especially Romania. Though there are also some reference to the J-Horror genre in there. With Professor E. Gadd making an appearance.
- Kong Kingdom: A further nod to Donkey Kong in the form of appearances by him and other Kongs like Diddy and Dixie. Perhaps even a boss where Mario captures DK and fights King K. Rool.
- Casino Kingdom: A city-based Kingdom that takes inspiration from Las Vegas and has a casino motif, with Wario and Waluigi possibly making an appearance.
- Independence Kingdom: A Philadelphia-inspired Urban Kingdom with a dose of Boston in which is American history themed.
- Fiery Chilly Kingdom: An ice and fire fusion Kingdom.
- Dessert Kingdom: A spiritual successor to the Luncheon Kingdom, but with a Candy motif.
- Melody Kingdom: A kingdom based around musical instruments.
- Westward Kingdom: A desert kingdom based off the Wild West.
- Oriental Metro Kingdom: A Hong Kong themed kingdom.
- Yoshi Island: A world themed around the Yoshi’s Island series. Have Kamek show up as a boss.
- Rogueport: In order to make it fit the theme more, it would become a fusion between the original version as well as famous port towns/cities.
- Alternatively for the villain, it will be Waluigi, hired by Bowser to divert Luigi's attention so that Mario will be forced to go it alone.
- Borrowing from the usual Save the Princess setting, a new villain has kidnapped Bowser Jr., warranting the Koopa King's wrath.
- Bowser seeks out all the needed ingredients for a Love Potion he intends to use on—you guessed it—Princess Peach.
- A Coming of Age story where we get to play with Baby Bowser's movesets in early levels, then adult Bowser's for the rest of the game.
- Bowser gets trapped in an Alternate Universe where Mario and crew are antagonists, and Bowser and his army are protagonists. Of course, Bowser gets out at the end.
- Peach is kidnapped by a new villain, along with Mario and Luigi—forcing Bowser to save Peach (and reluctantly, Mario and Luigi).
- A new villain banishes Bowser, takes over his castle, and captures or enslaves everyone in it; and Bowser has to embark on an One-Man Army journey to reclaim his land, soldiers and loved ones.
- Bowser's Inside Story already did that.
- The Netherlands (perhaps a revamped version of Sarasaland, due to Daisy's flower motif)
- The Australian Outback (with Kangaroo NPCs)
- Romania (with Professor E. Gadd making an appearance
- India
- Peru
- Texas
- Hawaii with a dose of New Orleans (Perhaps a redesigned Isle Delfino)
- Las Vegas
- Philadelphia
- The Philippines
- And she'll have to save Mario from Bowser this time. Teamed up with Tiara, she'll have many of the same abilities as Mario, in addition to the ability to use a parasol and float. Giving Peach the chance to be the Hero.
- More likely this would be DLC. Either way, a better idea than the simple Russian Reversal would be if Peach had to save someone else. Perhaps create a younger sibling of hers.
Super Mario 64 was remade once, on the DS, but even that game is beginning to show its age. But rather than another remake, I think that they would instead reimagine the game entirely - take the same starting ideas, but build an entirely new game on top of it. Interviews say that there was a lot that was planned for 64, but couldn't be included because of how limited the 64 was, and how little experience the developers had working on 3D games. Maybe some of that long-lost content could finally see the light of day in a reimagining.
So possibly, Odyssey 2/Odyssey + will have you visit other areas in these kingdoms that'd expand on their atmosphere and lore more than was originally shown. For example:
- Ruined Kingdom: Anvilhead Village: A partially ruined medieval town much like what you see in fantasy games, with much of the local story involving what life was like before it all collapsed. (The comparisons to Dark Souls would be heavily emphasized, as the town and surrounding area would resemble something out of Dark Souls III.)
- Cascade Kingdom: Paleo Forest: A thick prehistoric jungle, perhaps on one of the distant plateaus seen in Fossil Falls, inhabited by various dinosaurs and carrying the feel of a Flinstones episode (making the caveman outfit all the more relevant).
- Sand Kingdom: Temple of the Emperor, expanding on the history of Tostarena's Ruins
- Metro Kingdom: Stanley County: A small suburban town and rural-ish landscape beyond that acts as a satellite town for New Donk City itself; for a more 'casual' take on urban Mario gameplay.
- Luncheon Kingdom: Fruited Plains: A relatively open landscape akin to the rolling 'vineyard country' of southern Europe and the Australian tropics, though still maintaining the same world made of food aesthetic.
- Cloud Kingdom: Mount Cumulus: A literal mountain of clouds and the fanciful countryside around it, inhabited by a bird-like race that'd call back to the Rito .
- And if he did get pulled into the argument, Mario would far more likely than not side with the princess on it, calling out Toadsworth on disrespecting not only Peach's agency as a person but also the fact that he, while initially disappointed by it, accepted her rejection of his proposal.
- Maybe Bowser will plan a sinister birthday party for Bowser Jr.?
- or a birthday for The Koopalings?