Sorting Algorithm of Deadness
Using the scientifically Infallible power of the Sorting Algorithm of Deadness, who do you think is the next in line for being brought back from the great Bus in the sky?
To use the Algorithm, simply add the Column's "Death Value", and divide by the number of applicable rows.
If the character hasn't died yet (but seems likely to), see Sorting Algorithm of Mortality. All of this is trumped by the First Law of Resurrection.
Currently, Shirley from Code Geass and the real Caulder from Advance Wars: Days of Ruin have scored 4, the highest possible. The latter is more notable by having 4 in every category instead of getting the CLAMP bonus that the former got. No characters have got the lowest possible score of 1 yet, but Bowser is the leader of the death-defying derby at 1.5, even beating South Park's Kenny.
Baseline Example: The death of Superman.
Cause: Heroic Sacrifice, so he's not coming back from that too quickly, or the sacrifice will be cheapened. 3.
Average: So add it up... we get a pretty high score, 19! Since it's not a videogame, divide by 7, and we get... 19/7 = 2.7, meaning supes isn't coming back for at least a few months, maybe even years. In actuality the Death Of Superman happened in January 1993 and he came back some time before May 1994.
Cause of death? He got directly hit by a massive satellite laser - no one could survive that.
Genre? Killed Off For Real - many main characters die.
Body found? It was assumed to be vaporized.
Reaction? The GDI wrote him off as dead, and Nod thought so too began fighting among themselves - a He's Dead Jim.
When did he die? Same arc - he dies at the end of the game. 14/6 = 2.3.
Conclusion? Kane appeared at the beginning of the game's sequel. In terms of playing time, he was never really out of the running - in the game's universe, however, he was "dead" for about 20 years. Close enough to Back Next Episode.
And by the time we start getting into the later games, it becomes evident that his big shtick is the dying over and over and over...
Fire Emblem 4's mass slaughter of the player's allies at the Battle of Barhara
Let's start with Levin
Cause: Bridge Drop. 4
Genre: Fire Emblem is noted for it's perma death, but Jugdral is the one universe where the power to bring back the dead can be used more than once. 3
Body Found: Not mentioned.
Reaction: His kids are pretty miffed, 2.
Last words:Not applied
Character: Regular 2
When: Over 10 years between the 2 generations. 4
Died and come back: The player can use the Valkyrie staff on him, but that only happens if they screw up badly enough to get a Holsety user killed, which is very rare. Not yet: 4
20 and 6: 3.3 It takes divine intervention to get him back
Now someone who isn't confirmed Ira
Cause: Same. 4
Genre: same. 3
Body found: The 5th game says at least some of the women at the battle were alive... and got turned to stone. Frozen. 2
Reaction: again, 2nd gen is quite annoyed, 2
Last words: ?
Character: Unlike Levin, not a holy weapon holder, so I'd rank her a 3
When: again, over 10 years in game AND about 10 years IRL, 4
Come back: Again, not yet. 4
22 by 7: 3.142. Hey Levin lives (and is forced to abandon his children granted) with a higher score... Given her popularity she has a chance if an FE4 (preferably combined with FE5) remake is done.
For comparison, let's do someone who has come back in the series: Michalis in FE1, FE3 book 1 and Shadow Dragon.
Cause of death: Killed by Marth's army (FE3 says that canonically his sister defeated him but couldn't kill him). Given that it wasn't until latter that story units got unhealable wounds instead of dieing, reaching 0 HP in Fire Emblem is pretty dead. 2?
Genre: Anyone can die. 4
Body found: No mention is given to what happened to it in the original, but said to be cared for by his sister in FE3. 1
Reaction: 3 (We really need examples of what warrents what for villain deaths)
Last words: "Aaagh… I am finished… Forgive me…my people…" 4?
Character: Major enemy, but this is his first time actually appearing: 3.5
When: 4 out of universe, 5 in. 3
Deaths: Not yet 4
Back for a redemption equals death
Now for said death
Found: Yep, I think it's just abandoned given it's a battlefield. 1
Reaction: Marth just shouts his name. 2?
Last words: "Your highness... I leave Maria’s fate to you..." 3?
Character: I can say he at least somewhat counts as a "loved one" now though. 4.
When: 6 years between the original and remake, same arc between his "death" and comeback in story. ?
Deaths: once, 3.
20+ "when"'s result. Either a 3 or a 1. 2.8 or 2.6 and he's back in the remake if you do it right.
Cause: Redemeption (technically not him that was evil, but counts) 3
Reaction: Not mentioned for a bit, but Camus gives a "He's dead Jim" in the final. 3
On the other hand, it's already been established that Magic-users can be reincarnated. So if they do another 800 year time skip...
Advance Wars series examples. Let's start with Sturm in Black Hole Rising:
When: before the start of the game, quite possibly before the meteors - 4
Come back before: no, and there barely any hint that the Caulder you fight is a clone - 4
Average: 32/8 = 4. You got first place.
And finally, Dr. Caulder himself, or rather, the clone:
Cause: Death by Irony (hey, I think I'll not try to escape the player who just turned my Scrappy Level into a joke so that he toys with me and doesn't blow up the last of the lasers right away to destroy the level when he can easily do so any time he pleases, because he must find it...fascinating) - 4
Cause: According to Guile's A3 ending, holding back M. Bison long enough to allow explosives set up by Guile and Charlie to blow up Shadaloo's base. Mix of No One Could Survive That and Heroic Sacrifice. 2.5
Characterization: Possibly a loved one. I'll just call it a 3
Died and came back: Again, first appearance: not applicable.
When: Same year again. - 2.
14/5 = 2.8 He's unlikely to come back. Given that he's in the same possibly-canon ending as GLaDOS, if she survives that means he probably does. Of course, that doesn't mean it would actually show him.
When: same arc, becomes same year before it is bothered with again - 1.5
"Died" and come back: nope - 4
Average: 22.5/8 = 2.81. Of course, the sequel ups the score by 1 for Genre (Killed Off for Real; he's even a ghost there), 2 for Reaction (Montage, being buried at the Gorgisburg Mausoleum), and 1.5 for When, totaling 27/8 = 3.37. He's not coming back.
And next up is the second game's death victim A-Qira:
Cause of death: Bridge Drop (his drink was poisoned by Vlad) - 4
Audience Expectation: Disney Death most likely considering Scarecrow and some others appeared to have survived their apparent deaths in Arkham Asylum, and there's an established method by which characters could come back from the dead; the Lazarus Pits. Although Like You Would Really Do It is in full effect, so 1 is the best answer.
Body Found?: Found but not buried. The Joker gets a 3 here.
Reaction: Believe it or not, something close to a Really Dead Montage, since the cutscene following his death puts a big emphasis on the reactions of Joker'smooks to his death.
When did they die?: Difficult to say, though since Arkham City concludes its arc, same year would be the best bet. 2
Died and Come Back: While hisComic Book incarnation has died and come back countless times over the years, the time Joker faked his own death in the Arkhamverse was to lure Batman into a false sense of security near the beginning of the game, so a 3.
Final Verdict: Ultimately The Joker averages out to 2.625, so its quite possible that Joker's body will find its way Into a Lazarus Pit, or already has., though its completely conceivable that this is curtains for the Killer Clown.
Next up is Ras Al Ghoul. Will his body find its way to a Lazarus Pit or not?
Cause of Death: A failed attempt at Taking You with Me, the best bet is a 2 because of the failure.
Audience Expectation: Since She lacks the Joker Immunity of the two previous characters, its quite possible that Talia might be dead for real in the eyes of the audience. 2 because of other characters apparently cheating death.
Body Found?: Like her father's body Talia's disappears during the boss fight following her apparent death, so 2.
Cause Of Death: Dropped into boiling lava just prior to taking two simultaneous rocket launcher shots to the face. No One Could Survive That. 2.
Genre: Kind of tricky, as the series has both a whole bunch of Disney Deaths (it's a B-horror game about zombies and supersoldiers, for crying out loud!) and yet also many major supporting characters who were Killed Off for Real. I'll split the difference and give it a 2.5.
Body Found?: Finding the body would be a little hard, considering he was dropped into a volcano. Never Found the Body. 3.
Reaction: Surprisingly, none. Then again, by that point the heroes were probably just too damn tired to do much of anything except collapse in exhaustion. No score.
Characterization: The series' Big Bad. Particularly significant, as he's been a thorn in our sides for 15 years running. 1.
When Did They Die?: In the most recent game in the series, but there's often a 2 to 6 year timeline gap between games. Can't really score this until a sequel comes out.
Alternate result: once you take into account that Wesker was assumed to already be dead by the main character after a plot-relevant encounter inbetween games, the average comes out slightly differently: (2 + 2.5 + 3 + 1 + 2)/5 = 2.1 - Not much difference though, the only question is how long he'll actually be out of commision.
Cause of Death: He sacrificed himself for Claire. 3
Audience Expectation: 2.5
Body found: Stolen by Wesker, thus never found. 2
Reaction: Varies. Darkside Chronicles has an It's Personal reaction whereas Code Veronica doesn't show what happened. (Though it's implied that she was crying.) 2.5
Last Words: His final speech. 3
Characterization: Mauve Shirt, seeing as how he was created specifically to die. 4
When Did He Die: 10 years ago. 3
Died And Came Back?: Never. 4
24/8= 3. Seeing as how most of the side characters are put on a bus, he may come back. Who knows?
Mega Man X:
Sigma, Mega Man X (SNES)
Cause: You blow up his body, which is then in an exploding base, which then crashes into the ocean No One Could Survive That. 2.
Cause Of Death: Blows himself up in a massive explosion at the end of each game. In the latest game, Time Crisis 4, he had a ton of metal debris dropped on his head before blowing himself up. No One Could Survive That. 2
Body Found?: The heroes never bother to look. After all, the guy just exploded. Never Found the Body. 3
Reaction: None (it's an arcade game, not Shakespeare). No score.
Characterization: Although nominally The Dragon, he's the series' only recurring character and has sort of become the series' mascot, so I'll go ahead and list him as the Arch-Villain. 1
When Did They Die?: The last game, and based on his rate of aging there seems to be a 5-10 year gap between each game, so I'll go with that. 4.
Died and Came Back?: Yes, to put it mildly. 1.
Average = 2. Honestly, this should be lower, but still it's no surprise Wild Dog will just keep coming back for more. Interestingly, he's visibly aging with each game, so I suppose eventually Father Time will do what countless bullets to the face and several massive explosions have failed to do so far.
Body Found: Crashed with his ship, but possibly retrieved for burial..4
Reaction: Mengsk doesn't care that Kerrigan killed his second-in-command. He's mostly angry because she betrayed him.3
Characterization: Regular. 2
When: 10 years ago. 3
Died and Came Back: Never. 4
The one important character to die) of Raidou Kuzunoha vs. The Soulless Army. (Note: I wasn't sure which genre the game falls into. If someone can recalculate this with genre included, it would be appreciated.)
Last Words: "I know, Tali. But thank you. Keelah se'lai." An excellent Final Speech. 3
Characterization: Squadmate, but it's closer to Recurring Character than the likes of Tali or Garrus. 2.5
When did they die: Same arc. 1
Died and came back: As an individual, no.. which is what Legion was when it died/deactivated. Oddly, arguable as either 4 or 1. The game hints much more heavily at 4, though.
Average: 2.714. The Geth did create the Geth VI to replace Legion if it died in Omega-4 as well, so some rendition of Legion may indeed be coming back.
Sgt. Johnson's death from the very end of the Halo Trilogy.
Cause of Death: He makes it to the very end of the trilogy, only to be killed off completely out of left field by Guilty Spark to set up the final battle. Sounds a lot like they Dropped a Bridge on Him, but he also uses his last shot to save Master Chief from Spark, so it might count as a Heroic Sacrifice instead. I'll give him a 3.5.
Genre: Nominally Killed Off for Real, although by the end pretty much everyone is dead except for Chief, Cortana, and Arbiter, so might count as Anyone Can Die also. Again, I'll split the difference and give it a 3.5.
Body Found?: Died in Master Chief's arms. Chief never bothered to take a pulse, but I'll assume he's not an idiot and had some way of knowing Johnson had expired and not simply passed out. And then the Halo he died on blew up, although see below... So, Deader than Dead. 4.
Characterization: Started out as a Red Shirt in Halo, but was made a series Regular in Halo 2. 2.
When did they die?: Doesn't really count, since the series ends after his death. No score.
Died and came back?: There was that little matter of being on a giant Ringworld just as it gets blown up in a massive explosion, yet coming back alive and well for the sequel. So a definite yes, he's done it before. 3.
Average = 3.17. Rest in Peace, Sarge. "You were one hard-core son of a bitch".
Genre: Kill 'em All. Earth's colonies burn, and Earth's own population is reduced to 200 million. Capable, sympathetic people like Sgt. Johnson, Capt. Keyes, and his daughter, Lt. Commander Keyes are killed. Reach is a game in which all of your friends are killed and then you sacrifice yourself. Only Sgt. Johnson has been brought back from apparent death. 4
Body Found?: Never Found the Body. Cortana herself told John she would not survive the explosion, though. 2.5
Reaction: He's Dead, Jim. Lasky consoles the Chief on his loss. 3
Last Words: Obi-Wan Moment. Cortana uses the last of her strength to say goodbye. 3
Characterization: Protagonist/Regular. Easily the second-most important character. 1.5
When Did They Die?: Same year, relative to Halo 5. 2
"Died" and came back?: Left behind surrounded by enemies on High Charity. 3.5
Average: 2.75. Probably replaced by "another Cortana model".
Cause of Death: Jumping after taking a grenade to the chest. 1.5
Genre: Killed Off for Real. 343 Guilty Spark survived the destruction of his installation, but the Prophets stayed dead. 3
Body Found?: Left for Dead, then nuked. 1.5
Reaction?: He's Dead, Jim. Cortana congratulates the Chief for saving the day as always. 3
Last Words: Famous Last Words / Final Speech. Attacked by Cortana, he tells her that "Your compassion for mankind is misplaced." "I'm not doing this for mankind," she replies. Voiceover explanation of his motives on the epilogue. 3
Characterization: Archvillain. A lot of lore has gone into setting up the Didact/Librarian story. 1
When Did They Die?: Same year, relative to Halo 5. 2
"Died" and came back?: Once as the Ur-Didact, once as Bornstellar. 2
Average: 2.13. The Chief hasn't seen the last of him.
A fun contrary example: Private Antony Carmine from Gears of War.
Cause of Death: Got sniped in the head because a) he was wearing a helmet (and thus lacked peripheral vision), and b) he was dumb enough to stand up in the middle of a firefight. Definitely Death by Irony. 4.
Body Found?: We see his head burst (or at least blood splatter), but the actual body is left behind for dead (the squad was being shot at and chased off at the time), so somewhere between Never Found the Body and Deader than Dead. I'd say 3.5.
Reaction: No real reaction other than brief surprise, since the surviving squad members are busy being shot at. I'm gonna say not applicable.
Average: 3.42. He should be just another forgotten dead Red Shirt. And yet Word of God is that he's coming back in the sequel... How's that for accuracy, folks?
Although "a" Carmine joined Fenix's gang in Gears of War 2, it was not the original Carmine; it was his brother.
Dr. Breen in Half Life 2
Cause: Last seen trapped in a teleporter device about 50 feet below the epi-center of a massive explosion, so definitely No One Could Survive That. 2.
Genre: No major characters have died yet (Eli's fate is still in limbo until Episode 3 comes out). Alyx was pretty much dead, but brought back to life by the Vortigaunts, so Back from the Dead. 1.
Body Found?: Nope. See Cause. 3.
Reaction: Almost none at all, actually. The protagonists don't celebrate (or even really remark on) his death, although one civilian does miss his show (he used to have jugglers!). No score.
Characterization: Main antagonist (although ultimately he was just a tool of the Combine), so 1.
When did they die: Technically, Episodes are expansion packs to Half Life 2, so Same Arc. 1.
Died and Come Back?: Never happened, because no one's died yet. 4.
Average: An even 2. I guess we'll be seeing him in Episode 3, so literally Back Next Episode. There's good money that the Combine Advisor in Episode 2 is his new "host body".
Eli Vance, last seen being cranium-raped by a giant alien slug in the Downer Ending of Episode 2.
Cause: Well, he gave Gordon his final orders, then attacked the Advisor to distract it, so a Heroic Sacrifice. 3.
Genre: Same series, so 1 (see above).
Body Found?: Episode 2 fades out just as you reach his body, so there hasn't been time to check for a pulse, but he really looks Deader than Dead. 4.
Reaction: The game fades out with Alyx's hearfelt sobs over her father's body. This is obviously It's Personal, to get us in the mood to kick Advisor ass in Episode 3. The rather down mood also kind of makes it He's Dead, Jim, too. I'll say 2.5.
Characterization: Serves as the Big Bad of the last two-thirds of the game, 1
When: He just died, 1
Died and Come Back: As far as we know, this is the first time Hades died, 4
Score: 22/8 = 2.75 Hades may come back since he probably has at least 25 years before the next game comes out; that's plenty of time to figure out a way to come back.Revan in Star Wars: The Old Republic
Cause of Death: Defeat in battle. 2.
Audience Expectation: Killed Off for Real seems to be the norm for SW characters. 3.
Body Found: Nope, vanished in a puff of light. 2.
Reaction: Generally assumed to be dead. 3.
Last Words: Echoes Malak's dying words. 3.
Characterization: A former protagonist and one of the most popular SW EU characters. 1.
When did he die?: Not quite sure how to sort this. Let's say 2.
Died and come back?: Twice. 2.
Average: 2.25. Even if the SWTOR people don't already plan to bring him back, someone else will.
Seth in Super Street Fighter IV, using the events of Juri's ending.
Cause of Death: Hm... Technically he was simply killed in battle, but it's kind of Death by Irony that he failed to stop his Reliable Traitor henchwoman before she killed him. Let's say... 2.5.
Audience Expectation: For Street Fighter final bosses, Death Is Cheap. 1.
When Did They Die: The version we're using came out in 2010 so that's, uh, 2.5 let's say.
Died And Come Back: Nope, first time. 4.
Let's see... 23.5/8 equals... 2.94. Chances have it, Seth is staying dead. Bonus points should probably be added on the grounds that the fanbase disliked him as a whole (seriously, we need some sort of constant that can be added to account for that).
Greygnarl is Dragon Quest IX.
Cause of Death: Makes a Heroic Sacrifice to protect his hometown. 3.
Audience Expectation: Killed Off for Real more than anything else. 3.
Body Found?: When the blast of light fades after he is hit by the enormous attack, he's disappeared. 2.
Reaction: Not much of one, to be honest, although the characters mention avenging him as another reason to stop the bad guys, which is close enough to It's Personal for this algorithm. 2.
Last Words: Gives his Famous Last Words to the hero before giving himself up. 3.
Characterisation: Eh... In the grand scheme of things, C-List Fodder. 3.
When did they die?: Dragon Quest games tend to be self-contained, so it's effectively the same arc. 1.
'Died' and came back?: No, not that we know of. 4.
That comes to 21, which divided by 8 gives 2.63. Surprisingly low, given the number of threes that he got, but the game would have you believe that he's snuffed it for good. You should therefore all be rather surprised to discover that he is an extra grotto boss later on.
Fawful in Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story
Cause of Death: Villainous Sacrifice, if we have that - he blew himself up in a last-ditch attempt to kill the Mario Bros. 3.
Audience Expectation: Although Mario baddies don't often stay down (just ask Bowser), the RPGs tend to get rid of theirs at the end of each game. 3.
Body Found: When he explodes you see the globs of darkness that was all his reduced body consisted of by that stage. Probably comes under Chunky Salsa Rule. 4.
Reaction: Celebrations that he's gone, so that's He's Dead, Jim. 3.
Last Words: Final Speech. 3.
Characterisation: The recurring villain of the Mario & Luigi series. So a cross between 3 and 1 is... 2.
When did they die?: Closer to 2 than it is to 3. 2.
Died and come back?: Fawful has been shown to survive implausible circumstances that should lead to his death before (at the ending of Superstar Saga), but there's a difference between a vague shot of him falling out of Bowser's flying Castle (and remember, he has flying headgear) and actually exploding into little bits. So if we go off time alone then it's 4.
24/8=3. So chances are he's gone for good, but there's just enough leeway for Alphadream to bring back probably their most popular character in the future. Remember, he may have been blown to bits but Bowser spat all those bits out in the air, so no-one knows what happened after that.
Let's pull out all the stops here. How about the King of the Koopas himself?
Cause of death: Mario defeats him every time. 2.
Audience expectation: This is Bowser we're talking about. 1.
Body found: Not usually. 2.5.
Reaction: He kidnapped the princess. Of course It's Personal for Mario. 2.
Last words: Usually, nobody talks in Mario games. N/A.
Characterization: The archvillain. 1.
When did they die?: He is defeated in every game. 1.
Body found: He fell off to the nearest body with Platinum and his body is never found, or no one bothers to. 2
Reaction: Unclear as it is a bit vague. Will get back to this, but for now, discounted.
Last words: "If I'm dead, I'm taking you (Platinum) with me!" Very close to 'Crap!'. 4.
Characterization: He's the Arch Villain... or so he thinks. But he's a pretty major character. Not to mention the fanbase LOOOOVES him! 1.
When did they die?: Now this is very confusing. He died in the most recent arc, so it should be 1. However, Chronophantasma is very much the climax of the story and nearing the Grand Finale, so it should be 4. Let's take the center and make it 2.5
"Died" and come back?: Was once killed on purpose by Relius and then still came back. We'll say... just once and got better. 3
Death value: 20.5/7: 2.93. Above average, so I think if Terumi wants to come back, wait until another arc that is not about the tales of Ragna.