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28th Sep '17 8:04:48 PM sylviaviridian
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[[KnightInShiningArmor Bolvar Fordragon]] and [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Saurfang jr.]]

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Before we move along, let's establish a baseline for Azeroth specifically, using a recent prominent revival.

Illidan Stormrage:
* Cause: Killed in battle, 2.
* Audience Expectation: You can die in Azeroth if you aren't a PlayerCharacter, 3.
* Body Found: We just left it on top of Black Temple, Maiev apparently locked it in a crystal. 2 for petrified/frozen.
* Reaction: Acknowledgment that the deed is done probably counts as [[HesDeadJim He's Dead Jim]], 3.
* Last Words: His NotSoDifferent speech to Maiev counts as FamousLastWords, 3.
* Characterization: His presence in the trailer makes him the defining villain of Burning Crusade, 1.
* When: 5-10 years ago is the range in-universe and out, 3.
* Died and come back: His survival at the end of Frozen Throne was unclear, gives him a 3.

Average: 20/8 = 2.5, solidly in range for returning.

Now let's look at the recent leadership changes in Horde and Alliance.

Vol'jin:
* Cause: He was only injured until we saw how bad it was in the next cutscene, so that's MortalWoundReveal, 3.
* Audience Expectation: Still KilledOffForReal, 3.
* Body Found: MeaningfulFuneral, 4.
* Reaction: [[ItsPersonal It's Personal]] from Sylvanas (whether or not she meant it) and the Horde (who surely mean it wholeheartedly), 2.
* Last Words: FinalSpeech to the gathered leaders of the Horde, 3.
* Characterization: Even a faction leader can only really count as a Regular, 2.
* When: Same arc, 1.
* Died and come back: The business in Pandaria definitely counts for one, 3.

Average: 21/8 = 2.625, only a little deader than Illidan was, and let's not forget he's friends with his race's death god.

Varian Wrynn:
* Cause: HeroicSacrifice, dammit, 3.
* Audience Expectation: Still KilledOffForReal, 3.
* Body Found: Disintegrated on-screen, 4.
* Reaction: [[ItsPersonal It's Personal]] from the Alliance, especially Jaina and Genn, 2.
* Last Words: FamousLastWords for sure, 3.
* Characterization: Faction leader is a Regular, 2.
* When: Same arc, 1.
* Died and come back: Vanished-presumed-dead, was half returned, then returned for real. Ought to earn him at least one, 3.

Average: 21/8 = 2.625, exactly the same as Vol'jin. And may I note, compliments to Blizz on managing to give them not just the same overall score, but the exact same spread as well.

Because a fangirl can dream...
Kael'thas Sunstrider:
* Cause: Killed in battle, 2.
* Audience expectation: KilledOffForReal, 3.
* Body Found: Beheaded for a quest turn-in in his final appearance, and Lor'themar's leader short story notes that he was buried on Quel'danas, 4.
* Reaction: [[HesDeadJim He's Dead Jim]], 3.
* Last Words: A rather unhinged FinalSpeech, if we're generous, 3.
* Characterization: Recurring at best, 3.
* When: Same as Illidan, 5-10 years ago, 3.
* Died and come back: Memetically so, 3.

Average: 24/8 = 3 exactly. Never say never, but he's probably out for good.
20th Sep '17 9:59:47 AM DustSnitch
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* Cause of Death: DeathByIrony / [[spoiler: KarmicDeath]], 4.
* Audience Expectation: DisneyDeath most likely considering [[spoiler: Scarecrow and some others appeared to have survived their apparent deaths in Arkham Asylum, and there's an established method by which characters could come back from the dead; the Lazarus Pits.]] Although LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt is in full effect, so 1 is the best answer.
* BodyFound?: Found but not buried. [[spoiler: The Joker]] gets a 3 here.
* Reaction: Believe it or not, something close to a ReallyDeadMontage, since the cutscene following [[spoiler: his]] death puts a big emphasis on the reactions of [[spoiler: Joker's]] [[spoiler: {{mooks}}]] to [[spoiler: his]] death.

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* Cause of Death: DeathByIrony / [[spoiler: KarmicDeath]], KarmicDeath, 4.
* Audience Expectation: DisneyDeath most likely considering [[spoiler: Scarecrow and some others appeared to have survived their apparent deaths in Arkham Asylum, and there's an established method by which characters could come back from the dead; the Lazarus Pits.]] Pits. Although LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt is in full effect, so 1 is the best answer.
* BodyFound?: Found but not buried. [[spoiler: in ''Arkham City'' and cremated on-screen at the beginning of ''Arkham Knight. The Joker]] Joker gets a 3 4 here.
* Reaction: Believe it or not, something close to a ReallyDeadMontage, since the cutscene following [[spoiler: his]] his death puts a big emphasis on the reactions of [[spoiler: Joker's]] [[spoiler: {{mooks}}]] Joker's {{mooks}} to [[spoiler: his]] death.his death. 4



* Characterization [[spoiler: The Big Bad]], 1.
* When did they die?: Difficult to say, though since Arkham City concludes its arc, same year would be the best bet. 2
* Died and Come Back: While [[spoiler: his]] ComicBook incarnation has died and come back countless times over the years, [[spoiler: the time Joker faked his own death in the Arkhamverse was to lure Batman into a false sense of security near the beginning of the game]], so a 3.
** Final Verdict: Ultimately [[spoiler: The Joker]] averages out to 2.625, so its quite possible that [[spoiler: Joker's]] body will find its way [[spoiler: Into a Lazarus Pit, [[WildMassGuessing or already has.]]]], though its completely conceivable that this is curtains for the [[spoiler: [[MonsterClown Killer Clown.]]]]

Next up is Ras Al Ghoul. Will his body find its way to a Lazarus Pit or not?:

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* Characterization [[spoiler: Characterization: The Big Bad]], Bad, 1.
* When did they die?: Difficult to say, though since Arkham City concludes its arc, same The next installment in the series is set a year would be the best bet. 2
after his death, so 2.
* Died and Come Back: While [[spoiler: his]] his ComicBook incarnation has died and come back countless times over the years, [[spoiler: the time Joker faked his own death in the Arkhamverse was to lure Batman into a false sense of security near the beginning of the game]], game, so a 3.
** Final Verdict: Ultimately [[spoiler: The Joker]] Joker averages out to 2.625, 22/8=2.75, so its quite possible that [[spoiler: Joker's]] body will find its way [[spoiler: Into a Lazarus Pit, [[WildMassGuessing or already has.]]]], though its completely conceivable that this is curtains for the [[spoiler: [[MonsterClown Killer Clown.]]]]

he may come back, but it's not certain.

Next up is Ras Al Ghoul.Ghul from ''Arkham City''. Will his body find its way to a Lazarus Pit or not?:



* AudienceExpectation: [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]] has LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt in [[spoiler: his]] favor, though not as much as the character above. However,[[spoiler: he has]] the added bonus of [[spoiler: having an established mechanism for coming BackFromTheDead]], so its a 1.

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* AudienceExpectation: [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]] Ghul has LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt in [[spoiler: his]] his favor, though not as much as the character above. However,[[spoiler: However, he has]] has the added bonus of [[spoiler: having an established mechanism for coming BackFromTheDead]], BackFromTheDead, so its a 1.



* Reaction: FauxDeath to some extent, not because [[spoiler: Batman]] doubts that [[spoiler: he's]] dead, but because of the aforementioned ability to [[spoiler: come BackFromTheDead using the Lazarus Pits.]] 1.
* LastWords: Technically an OhCrap, but [[spoiler: Ra's]] outlasts his "LastWords" by about 20 seconds, during which [[spoiler: he's]] completely fine physically and attempts a TakingYouWithMe. So a 3 here.
* Characterization: [[spoiler: The Other BigBad]], 1.

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* Reaction: FauxDeath to some extent, not because [[spoiler: Batman]] Batman doubts that [[spoiler: he's]] he's dead, but because of the aforementioned ability to [[spoiler: come BackFromTheDead using the Lazarus Pits.]] Pits. 1.
* LastWords: Technically an OhCrap, but [[spoiler: Ra's]] Ra's outlasts his "LastWords" by about 20 seconds, during which [[spoiler: he's]] he's completely fine physically and attempts a TakingYouWithMe. So a 3 here.
* Characterization: [[spoiler: The Other BigBad]], BigBad, 1.



* Final Verdict: 1.625. We haven't seen the last of [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]]!!! Though [[spoiler: he's]] probably actually dead for the time being.

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* Final Verdict: 1.625. We haven't seen the last of [[spoiler: of Ra's Al Ghul]]!!! Though [[spoiler: he's]] probably actually dead Ghul!!! And with the DLC for ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamKnight'', he's right back in the time being.
game.



* Cause of Death?: Not exactly crystal clear, but matches [[spoiler: StuffedInTheFridge or DroppedABridgeOnHim]] the most, so its a 4.
* AudienceExpectation: Since [[spoiler: She]] lacks the [[spoiler: JokerImmunity]] of the two previous characters, its quite possible that [[spoiler: Talia]] might be dead for real in the eyes of the audience. 2 because of other characters apparently cheating death.
* Body Found?: Like [[spoiler: her father's]] body [[spoiler: Talia's]] disappears during the boss fight following [[spoiler: her]] apparent death, so 2.

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* Cause of Death?: Not exactly crystal clear, but matches [[spoiler: StuffedInTheFridge or DroppedABridgeOnHim]] DroppedABridgeOnHim the most, so its a 4.
* AudienceExpectation: Since [[spoiler: She]] she lacks the [[spoiler: JokerImmunity]] JokerImmunity of the two previous characters, its quite possible that [[spoiler: Talia]] Talia might be dead for real in the eyes of the audience. 2 because of other characters apparently cheating death.
* Body Found?: Like [[spoiler: her father's]] father's body [[spoiler: Talia's]] Talia's disappears during the boss fight following [[spoiler: her]] her apparent death, so 2.



* LastWords: Receives wound that kills [[spoiler: her]] [[KilledMidSentence mid sentence]], but lasts long enough to deliver some last words; 3.

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* LastWords: Receives wound that kills [[spoiler: her]] her [[KilledMidSentence mid sentence]], but lasts long enough to deliver some last words; 3.



* Final Verdict: 2.625, about as likely as [[spoiler: The Joker]] to come back from the dead.

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* Final Verdict: 2.625, about as likely as [[spoiler: The Joker]] Joker to come back from the dead.
dead.

And with the ending of ''Arkham Knight'', there's the Batman himself.
* Cause of Death?: He walks into his mansion, it explodes, and everyone starts reporting that the Batman is dead, making it NoOneCouldSurviveThat 2.
* AudienceExpectation: The game opens with the line "This is the story of how the Batman died," a case of TonightSomeoneDies. 3.
* Body Found?: Due to the explosion, his body is never found. 2.
* Reaction: In something similar to a BondOneLiner, immediately after the mansion explodes Jim Gordon repeats that "This is the story of how the Batman died." 4.
* Last Words: "I've got to. It's the only way to protect them." A sort of peaceful acceptance of the death, similar to the MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning trope. 1.
* Characterization: The main character of ''Batman'' is Batman. 1.
* When Did they Die?: Batman died last five minutes of the series finale, leaving little chance of return. 4.
* Died and Come Back?: Earlier in the game, Batman was shot in the chest and fell of the building, but came back okay. 3.
* Final Verdict: 20/8=2.5, halfway between InferredSurvival and gone for the time.
10th Aug '17 3:57:55 PM chasemaddigan
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[[folder:''Advance Wars'']]

Let's start with Sturm in Black Hole Rising:
* Cause: mix of BridgeDrop and NoOneCouldSurviveThat (he was hit by [[spoiler:Black Storm]]) - 3
* Genre: first "death" in the series. Add the [[spoiler:clone usage]] and it's 1.5
* Body: seems to be right there, but [[spoiler:seeing as he wasn't unmasked]], let's count this as NeverFound - 3
* Reaction: HesDeadJim - 3
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: [[spoiler:Archvillain - 1]]
* When: [[right at the end]] in Black Hole Rising - 1; same year in Dual Strike - 2
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: [[spoiler:20.5/8 = 2.5625]] in Black Hole Rising, [[spoiler:21.5/8 = 2.6875]] in Dual Strike. [[spoiler:He could come back, especially if Hawke had killed a clone.]]

Dual Strike follows up with a couple. First, the Andy clone:
* Cause: [[spoiler:left to die]] - 3?
* Genre: Up to this point, only [[spoiler:Sturm]] had "died", but the [[spoiler:clone usage]] is useless for lowering his score - 2.5
* Body: Right there - 4
* Reaction: ItsPersonal - 2
* Last Words: FamousLastWords - 3
* Role: I'd say RedShirt - 4
* When: same arc, late in the game - 1
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: 23.5/8 = 2.9375. Not too likely to come back, [[spoiler:but another Andy clone may]]

And Von Bolt:
* Cause: KarmicDeath - 4
* Genre: see above - 2
* Body: Right there again - 4
* Reaction: None given, but then he invited Karma's wrath - 4
* Last Words: [[spoiler:TakingYouWithMe -- failed miserably]] - 4
* Role: [[spoiler:Archvillain - 1]]
* When: [[spoiler:right at the end - 1]]
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: [[spoiler:24/8 = 3. Of course, even if he does come back, he's not even in a condition to sweep any streets.]]

Now for Days of Ruin. There's a bunch of them. First, the Beast:
* Cause: [[spoiler:YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness]] - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: Right there - 4
* Reaction: none - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: RedShirt - 4
* When: Same arc - 1
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: 29/8 = 3.625. [[VideoGame/BattalionWars He's had it, commander.]]

Next is Forsythe:
* Cause: BridgeDrop - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: Right there again - 4
* Reaction: Montage - 4
* Last Words: FamousLastWords - 3
* Role: AntiVillain - 2.5
* When: Same arc - 1
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: 26.5/8 = 3.3125. [[spoiler:May that coward Greyfield pay for what he did.]]

And of course, Brenner:
* Cause: HeroicSacrifice, [[spoiler:could be considered RedemptionEqualsDeath in his own viewpoint]] - 3
* Genre: take a wild guess - 4
* Body: NotFound, but [[spoiler:the area got nuked]] - 3.5
* Reaction: Montage - 4
* Last Words: FamousLastWords - 3
* Role: [[spoiler:Regular]] - 2
* When: Same arc - 1
* Come back before: believed to be dead at one point, but other than that, no - 3.5
* Average: 24/8 = 3. Actually good for [[spoiler:being nuked]].

Davis in the American version:
* Cause: DeathByIrony - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, of course - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Body: LeftForDead - 1
* Reaction: none, really - 3
* Role: MauveShirt - 4
* When: Same arc - 1
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: 25/8 = 3.125. Not looking too good for the poor guy.

Greyfield:
* Cause: DeathByIrony - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, naturally - 4
* Body: right there - 4
* Reaction: AndThereWasMuchRejoicing - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: DiscOneFinalBoss - 4
* When: Same arc, again - 1
* Come back before: nope - 4
* Average: 29/8 = 3.625. The moral of the story? Never [[spoiler:murder [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POW POW]]s]], or [[spoiler:nuke your own people to kill the idealist commander of an AntiHero subordinate]].

The Mayor:
* Cause: KarmicDeath - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: right there - 4
* Reaction: none, really; can be considered AndThereWasMuchRejoicing for the audience - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: recurring character - 3
* When: same arc, but becomes a year past soon afterwards - 2.5
* Come back before: no - 4
* Average: 29.5/8 = 3.6875. He's toast.

Cyrus:
* Cause: HeroicSacrifice - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: right there again - 4
* Reaction: Montage - 4
* Last Words: FamousLastWords - 3
* Role: recurring character - 3
* When: same arc, but becomes a year past soon afterwards - 2.5
* Come back before: no - 4
* Average: 28.5/8 = 3.5625. May he rest in peace.

The real Dr. Caulder:
* Cause: DeathByIrony - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: [[spoiler:A passing reference that he was in a plane crash hints at this in the first place, and his murderer--the clone that was running around--watched him die]] - 4
* Reaction: [[spoiler:His clone found "watching yourself die" [[CatchPhrase fascinating]]]] - 4
* Last Words: none, but no shown speaking role - 4
* Role: [[spoiler:creator and victim of the BigBad]] - 4
* When: before the start of the game, quite possibly before the meteors - 4
* Come back before: no, and [[spoiler:there barely any hint that the Caulder you fight is a clone]] - 4
* Average: 32/8 = 4. You got first place.

And finally, Dr. Caulder himself, or rather, the clone:
* Cause: DeathByIrony (hey, I think I'll not try to escape the player who just turned my ScrappyLevel into a joke so that he toys with me and doesn't blow up the last of the lasers right away to destroy the level when he can easily do so any time he pleases, because [[spoiler:[[NotSoDifferent he must find it]]...[[CatchPhrase fascinating]]]]) - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: LeftForDead - 1
* Reaction: none, really - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: BigBad in an AnyoneCanDie game - 4
* When: same arc, but a year passes after his death - 2.5
* Come back before: no - 4 [[spoiler:(no, being a clone who killed your own creator doesn't lower your score, Caulder)]]
* Average: 27.5/8 = 3.4375. Very unlikely, but could come back.

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[[folder:''Assassin's Creed'']]

Let's try Desmond from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII'':
* '''Cause of death:''' Straightforward HeroicSacrifice. 3.
* '''Audience expectation:''' Not quite KillEmAll territory, but main characters have died before, and ThePurge of the Assassins is described in [[AllThereInTheManual background material]]. Let's call it a 3.
* '''Body status:''' Recovered by Abstergo; about equivalent to "at the morgue". 3.
* '''Reaction:''' A ReallyDeadMontage-like...thing from [[spoiler:Juno]], plus a post-credits cutscene showing that his sacrifice has [[spoiler:saved the world]]. 4.
* '''Last words:''' N/A.
* '''Characterization:''' [[spoiler:Protagonist]]. 1.
* '''When did they die?:''' Two years of real time, putting it between 2 and 3 for a 2.5.
* '''"Died" and come back?:''' Never, unless you count [[spoiler:his coma in the Animus in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations''. 3.
* '''Death value:''' 2.79. We might see him again later, but probably not for a while.

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[[folder:''Batman Arkham Series'']]

First and foremost, we have The Joker himself: Spectacular [[AvertedTrope Aversion]] of JokerImmunity or a DoubleSubversion of it?:
* Cause of Death: DeathByIrony / [[spoiler: KarmicDeath]], 4.
* Audience Expectation: DisneyDeath most likely considering [[spoiler: Scarecrow and some others appeared to have survived their apparent deaths in Arkham Asylum, and there's an established method by which characters could come back from the dead; the Lazarus Pits.]] Although LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt is in full effect, so 1 is the best answer.
* BodyFound?: Found but not buried. [[spoiler: The Joker]] gets a 3 here.
* Reaction: Believe it or not, something close to a ReallyDeadMontage, since the cutscene following [[spoiler: his]] death puts a big emphasis on the reactions of [[spoiler: Joker's]] [[spoiler: {{mooks}}]] to [[spoiler: his]] death.
* Last Words: Difficult to say, though FamousLastWords fits best, 3.
* Characterization [[spoiler: The Big Bad]], 1.
* When did they die?: Difficult to say, though since Arkham City concludes its arc, same year would be the best bet. 2
* Died and Come Back: While [[spoiler: his]] ComicBook incarnation has died and come back countless times over the years, [[spoiler: the time Joker faked his own death in the Arkhamverse was to lure Batman into a false sense of security near the beginning of the game]], so a 3.
** Final Verdict: Ultimately [[spoiler: The Joker]] averages out to 2.625, so its quite possible that [[spoiler: Joker's]] body will find its way [[spoiler: Into a Lazarus Pit, [[WildMassGuessing or already has.]]]], though its completely conceivable that this is curtains for the [[spoiler: [[MonsterClown Killer Clown.]]]]

Next up is Ras Al Ghoul. Will his body find its way to a Lazarus Pit or not?:
* Cause of Death: A failed attempt at TakingYouWithMe, the best bet is a 2 because of the failure.
* AudienceExpectation: [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]] has LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt in [[spoiler: his]] favor, though not as much as the character above. However,[[spoiler: he has]] the added bonus of [[spoiler: having an established mechanism for coming BackFromTheDead]], so its a 1.
* BodyFound: We see the body, but it quickly goes missing, so its a 2.
* Reaction: FauxDeath to some extent, not because [[spoiler: Batman]] doubts that [[spoiler: he's]] dead, but because of the aforementioned ability to [[spoiler: come BackFromTheDead using the Lazarus Pits.]] 1.
* LastWords: Technically an OhCrap, but [[spoiler: Ra's]] outlasts his "LastWords" by about 20 seconds, during which [[spoiler: he's]] completely fine physically and attempts a TakingYouWithMe. So a 3 here.
* Characterization: [[spoiler: The Other BigBad]], 1.
* When Did They Die: A 2 here for the same reasons as the above character.
* Died And Come Back?: Once on screen, countless times in backstory: 1.
* Final Verdict: 1.625. We haven't seen the last of [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]]!!! Though [[spoiler: he's]] probably actually dead for the time being.

On a similar note, next up we have Talia Al Ghul:
* Cause of Death?: Not exactly crystal clear, but matches [[spoiler: StuffedInTheFridge or DroppedABridgeOnHim]] the most, so its a 4.
* AudienceExpectation: Since [[spoiler: She]] lacks the [[spoiler: JokerImmunity]] of the two previous characters, its quite possible that [[spoiler: Talia]] might be dead for real in the eyes of the audience. 2 because of other characters apparently cheating death.
* Body Found?: Like [[spoiler: her father's]] body [[spoiler: Talia's]] disappears during the boss fight following [[spoiler: her]] apparent death, so 2.
* Reaction: ItsPersonal, 2.
* LastWords: Receives wound that kills [[spoiler: her]] [[KilledMidSentence mid sentence]], but lasts long enough to deliver some last words; 3.
* Characterization: Loved One, 4.
* When Did They Die?: 2 for the same reasons as the above characters.
* Died and Come Back?: Nope, 4.
* Final Verdict: 2.625, about as likely as [[spoiler: The Joker]] to come back from the dead.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Battalion Wars'']]

In the first game, we have Tsar Gorgi:
* Cause of death: Bridge Drop ([[spoiler:he was thrown off a bridge by Ubel right after a battle that his forces had won]]) - 4
* Genre: first non-mook casualty so hard to say without information from the second game - 2
* Body Found: right there, [[spoiler:as he was talking with his son]] - 4
* Reaction: ItsPersonal - 2
* Last Words: FinalSpeech - 3
* Characterization: [[spoiler: Regular - 2]]
* When: same arc, becomes same year before it is bothered with again - 1.5
* "Died" and come back: nope - 4
* Average: [[spoiler: 22.5/8 = 2.81. Of course, the sequel ups the score by 1 for Genre (KilledOffForReal; he's even a ghost there), 2 for Reaction (Montage, being buried at the Gorgisburg Mausoleum), and 1.5 for When, totaling 27/8 = 3.37. He's not coming back.]]

And next up is the second game's death victim A-Qira:
* Cause of death: Bridge Drop ([[spoiler:his drink was poisoned by Vlad]]) - 4
* Genre: thanks to [[spoiler:Tsar Gorgi]], KilledOffForReal - 3
* Body Found: LeftForDead - 1
* Reaction: none given, just doesn't appear in the ending - 2.5
* Characterization: Regular, although [[spoiler:[[ProudWarriorRaceGuy proud]]]] - 2.5
* Last Words: OhCrap ([[spoiler:"Poison! Treachery!"]]) - 4
* When: same arc, same year by the end of the game - 1.5
* "Died" and come back: nope - 4
* Average: 22.5/8 = 2.81. Assuming we don't see him pull a [[spoiler:Tsar Gorgi]] in the next game if it is made, there's still hope for our good [[spoiler:admiral]]. Though his last words reduce his chances.

Countess Ingrid from the first game:
* Cause of death: Hard to call. The character was beyond salvation, so I guess it would be redemption - 3
* Genre: As stated before, KilledOffForReal - 3
* Body Found: LeftForDead - 1
* Reaction: None per se - 3
* Characterisation: Regular - 2
* Last Words: FamousLastWords ([[spoiler:"You have made a grave error in coming here, Empress!"]]) - 3
* When: Same year - 2
* "Died" and came back: No - 4
* Average: 21 points, or 2.625. Given the fact that [[spoiler:she's entombed with the Iron Legion, essentially]], it's not too farfetched to see this character coming back.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''[=BlazBlue=]'']]

Surprise, surprise! They killed off Yuuki Terumi in ''VideoGame/BlazBlueChronophantasma''! How likely is he gonna come back?:
* '''Cause of death''': [[spoiler:Died anticlimatically with Time Killer, having all his time before his natural death destroyed. Thus Bridge Drop. 4]]
* '''Audience expectation''': AnyoneCanDie. 4.
* '''Body found''': [[spoiler:He fell off to the nearest body with Platinum and his body is never found, or no one bothers to. 2]]
* '''Reaction''': Unclear as it is a bit vague. Will get back to this, but for now, discounted.
* '''Last words''': [[spoiler:"If I'm dead, I'm taking you (Platinum) with me!" Very close to 'Crap!'. 4.]]
* '''Characterization''': [[spoiler:He's the ArchVillain... or so he thinks. But he's a pretty major character. Not to mention the fanbase LOOOOVES him! 1.]]
* '''When did they die?''': [[spoiler:Now this is very confusing. He died in the most recent arc, so it should be 1. However, Chronophantasma is very much the climax of the story and nearing the GrandFinale, so it should be 4. Let's take the center and make it 2.5]]
* '''"Died" and come back?''': [[spoiler:Was once killed on purpose by Relius and then still came back. We'll say... just once and got better. 3]]
* '''Death value''': [[spoiler:20.5/7: 2.93. Above average, so I think if Terumi wants to come back, wait until another arc that is not about the tales of Ragna.]]

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Chrono Trigger'']]

Lucca, who was apparently killed by Lynx in ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'':
* '''Cause''': SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome, and pretty gratuitous as well, going from being able to [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu punching out Cthulhu]] to getting killed by some panther furry. I'd say that counts as a Bridge Drop. 4.
* '''Genre''': Well, judging from the first game, DeathIsCheap, but ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' tries to establish an AnyoneCanDie sort of mood, so we'll just average 4 and 1 and say 2.5.
* '''Body''': Never Found. 3.
* '''Reaction''': Definitely It's Personal for Kid. 2.
* '''Last Words''': We never actually hear them, but she does leave a parting letter, so... Final Speech. 3.
* '''Characterization''': One of the three main protagonists of the last game, though it could also count as a loved one. This time, I'll lean toward Protagonist and say 1.
* '''When Did They Die?''': More than ten years before the start of ''VideoGame/ChronoCross''... 4. Uh oh.
* '''Came Back?''': Not yet... 4.
* '''Total''': 23.5/8 = just under 3. That's pretty high, but it doesn't totally rule out a return for ''Chrono 3''... if they ever get around to making it.

Crono's PlotlineDeath in the first game:
* '''Cause:''' HeroicSacrifice = 3
* '''Genre:''' ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' is very idealistic, so I'd say = 2.5
* '''Body:''' Vaporized = Never found? = 3
* '''Reaction:''' Average reaction from the other characters. I'd say = 2.5
* '''Last Words:''' None... [[spoiler: unsurprisingly, since he never speaks]] = N/A
* '''Characterization:''' [[spoiler:Protagonist = 1]].
* '''When:''' Same game = same arc I'd say. = 1
* '''Came back?:''' Never really died before. = N/A
* Result: 2.17 = Probably Back Quite Soon. [[spoiler:And if you bother to resurrect him, he indeed comes back fairly quickly.]]

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Command & Conquer'']]



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FireEmblem 4's [[spoiler:mass slaughter of the player's allies at the Battle of Barhara]]

Let's start with [[spoiler:Levin]]
* Cause: Bridge Drop. 4
* Genre: Fire Emblem is noted for it's perma death, but Jugdral is the one universe where the power to bring back the dead can be used more than once. 3
* Body Found: Not mentioned.
* Reaction: His kids are pretty miffed, 2.
* Last words:Not applied
* Character: Regular 2
* When: Over 10 years between the 2 generations. 4
* Died and come back: The player can use the Valkyrie staff on him, but that only happens if they screw up badly enough to get a [[spoiler:Holsety user]] killed, which is very rare. Not yet: 4
* 20 and 6: 3.3 [[spoiler:It takes divine intervention to get him back]]

Now someone who isn't confirmed [[spoiler:Ira]]
* Cause: Same. 4
* Genre: same. 3
* Body found: The 5th game says at least some of the women at the battle were alive... [[spoiler:and got turned to stone]]. Frozen. 2
* Reaction: again, 2nd gen is quite annoyed, 2
* Last words: ?
* Character: Unlike [[spoiler:Levin]], not a holy weapon holder, so I'd rank her a 3
* When: again, over 10 years in game AND about 10 years IRL, 4
* Come back: Again, not yet. 4
* 22 by 7: 3.142. Hey [[spoiler:Levin]] lives (and is [[spoiler:forced to abandon his children]] granted) with a higher score... Given her popularity she has a chance if an [=FE4=] (preferably combined with [=FE5=]) remake is done.

For comparison, let's do someone who has come back in the series: Michalis in [=FE1=], [=FE3=] book 1 and Shadow Dragon.
* Cause of death: Killed by Marth's army ([=FE3=] says that canonically his sister defeated him but couldn't kill him). Given that it wasn't until latter that story units got unhealable wounds instead of dieing, reaching 0 HP in Fire Emblem is pretty dead. 2?
* Genre: Anyone can die. 4
* Body found: No mention is given to what happened to it in the original, but said to be cared for by his sister in [=FE3=]. 1
* Reaction: 3 (We really need examples of what warrents what for villain deaths)
* Last words: "Aaagh… I am finished… Forgive me…my people…" 4?
* Character: Major enemy, but this is his first time actually appearing: 3.5
* When: 4 out of universe, 5 in. 3
* Deaths: Not yet 4
* [[spoiler:Back for a redemption equals death]]

Now for [[spoiler:said death]]
* Cause: 3
* Genre: 4
* Found: Yep, I think it's just abandoned given it's a battlefield. 1
* Reaction: Marth just shouts his name. 2?
* Last words: "Your highness... I leave [[spoiler:Maria]]’s fate to you..." 3?
* Character: I can say he at least somewhat counts as a "loved one" now though. 4.
* When: 6 years between the original and remake, same arc between his "death" and comeback in story. ?
* Deaths: once, 3.
* 20+ "when"'s result. Either a 3 or a 1. 2.8 or 2.6 [[spoiler:and he's back in the remake if you do it right]].

And [[spoiler:Hardin]]
* Cause: Redemeption (technically not him that was evil, but counts) 3
* Genre: 4
* Found: ?
* Reaction: Not mentioned for a bit, but Camus gives a "He's dead Jim" in the final. 3
* Character: main villain of the arc 1.
* When: Same year. 2
* Deaths: None, 4.
* 17/7 2.4 [[spoiler:he stays dead in both [=FE3=] AND [=FE12=]]].

From ''{{VideoGame/Fire Emblem Awakening}}'', [[spoiler: The Avatar, in the "Destroy Grima" ending.]]
* Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice due to {{Synchronization}}. However, [[spoiler: Naga]] [[ChekhovsGun explicitly says it's possible]] s/he might survive it. 2
* Genre: ''Awakening'' still falls under AnyoneCanDie, and unlike some of the earlier games, there's no Aum staff. On the other hand [[spoiler: the Spotpass characters are all [[DisneyDeath Disney Deaths]]]], but they're dubiously canon, so I'll split the difference and call it a 3.
* Body Found: [[DisappearsIntoLight Disintegrates]] in plain sight of everyone. 4
* Reaction: A heartfelt farewell and montage with friends and loved ones, but [[HesJustHiding most everyone thinks s/he isn't dead]]. 2
* Last Words: "May we meet again, in another life..." doesn't say anything about ''this'' life. 2
* Characterization: [[spoiler: PlayerCharacter and arguably the protagonist.]] 1
* When did they die?: End of the game. Possibly the SeriesFinale if ''Awakening'' didn't do as well as it did. 4
* "Died" and come back?: Nope. Every other time [=s/he=] could have died, [[WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou it stuck]]. 4
* 22/7 = 3.14. Surprisingly high considering [[spoiler: s/he comes back right after the credits roll]].

Let's look at [[spoiler:Azura]] from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' (''Birthright'' path)
* Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice (was using powers that were CastFromLifespan, used them until it killed [[spoiler:her]]). 3.
* Genre: ''Fates'' is even more AnyoneCanDie than past games, since it not only lacks a way of bringing characters back, it's not afraid to give your party members a PlotlineDeath (as seen here). 4.
* Body Found: [[DisappearsIntoLight Evaporates]] in front of everyone. 4.
* Reaction: General shock, horror and sorrow, since it was happening so fast. 3.
* FamousLastWords: Begging the PlayerCharacter not to cry about [[spoiler:her]] dying. 3.
* Characterization: [[spoiler:The deuteragonist.]] 1.
* When did they die?": End of the game. 4.
* "Died" and come back?: Nope. 4.
* 26/8 = 3.25. [[spoiler:She]]'s not coming back, and according to the epilogue, [[spoiler:she]] doesn't.

Now a look at [[spoiler:her]] death on the ''Conquest'' path
* Cause of Death: Overuse of the same CastFromLifespan powers, though not ''quite'' a HeroicSacrifice this time. Average it out to a 2.5.
* Genre: Same as before. 4.
* Body Found: No. [[spoiler:She]] leaves so no one has to watch [[spoiler:her]] die. 1.
* Reaction: Confusion and wondering where [[spoiler:she]] went. 2.5
* FamousLastWords: A subtle goodbye speech to the protagonist. 3.
* Characterization: Same as before. 1.
* When did they die?: Same as before. 4.
* "Died" and come back?: Still the same. 4.
* 22/8 = 2.75. Well, [[spoiler:she]] has a better chance of surviving here than in ''Birthright'', but according to the epilogue no one ever saw [[spoiler:her]] again.

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''VideoGame/Persona3'':
[[spoiler: [[HelloInsertNameHere The Main Character]]]]
* Cause: HeroicSacrifice: 3.
* Genre: KilledOffForReal in the initial release of the game, but ''FES'' and ''[=P3P=]'' muddy the waters considerably. 2.5, maybe?
* Body Found: "The Answer" makes this more or less a 4.
* Reaction: "The Answer" is ''all about'' the other characters' efforts at coping. 4.
* Characterization: 1.
* Last Words: "Don't cry," or "It'll be okay." 3.
* Time of Death: End of the game. The Persona games are loosely connected rather than sharing casts or storylines, so this is almost but not quite equivalent to a Series Finale. 3.
* Died and Come Back: Had a DisneyDeath during the final battle; we'll say 3.
* Average: 23.5/8 = 2.94. Might be back. [[spoiler:''VideoGame/Persona4'' mentions that Elizabeth has gone in search of a way to save him from the burden of being the Great Seal, which gives some support to the possibility.]]


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''Franchise/DragonAge'':

Duncan

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FireEmblem 4's [[spoiler:mass slaughter of the player's allies at the Battle of Barhara]]

Let's start with [[spoiler:Levin]]
[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Devil Summoner'']]

The one important character to die from RaidouKuzunohaVsTheSoullessArmy.
* Cause: Bridge Drop. 4
* Genre: Fire Emblem is noted for it's perma death, but Jugdral is the one universe where the power to bring back the dead can be used more than once. 3
* Body Found: Not mentioned.
* Reaction: His kids are pretty miffed, 2.
* Last words:Not applied
* Character: Regular 2
* When: Over 10 years between the 2 generations. 4
* Died
NoOneCouldSurviveThat and come back: The player can use the Valkyrie staff on him, but that only happens if they screw up badly enough to get a [[spoiler:Holsety user]] killed, which is very rare. Not yet: 4
* 20 and 6: 3.3 [[spoiler:It takes divine intervention to get him back]]

Now someone who isn't confirmed [[spoiler:Ira]]
* Cause: Same. 4
* Genre: same. 3
* Body found: The 5th game says at least some of the women at the battle were alive... [[spoiler:and got turned to stone]]. Frozen. 2
* Reaction: again, 2nd gen is quite annoyed, 2
* Last words: ?
* Character: Unlike [[spoiler:Levin]], not a holy weapon holder, so I'd rank her a 3
* When: again, over 10 years in game AND about 10 years IRL, 4
* Come back: Again, not yet. 4
* 22 by 7: 3.142. Hey [[spoiler:Levin]] lives (and is [[spoiler:forced to abandon his children]] granted) with a higher score... Given her popularity she has a chance if an [=FE4=] (preferably combined with [=FE5=]) remake is done.

For comparison, let's do someone who has come back in the series: Michalis in [=FE1=], [=FE3=] book 1 and Shadow Dragon.
* Cause of death: Killed by Marth's army ([=FE3=] says that canonically his sister defeated him but couldn't kill him). Given that it wasn't until latter that story units got unhealable wounds instead of dieing, reaching 0 HP in Fire Emblem is pretty dead. 2?
* Genre: Anyone can die. 4
* Body found: No mention is given to what happened to it in the original, but said to be cared for by his sister in [=FE3=]. 1
* Reaction: 3 (We really need examples of what warrents what for villain deaths)
* Last words: "Aaagh… I am finished… Forgive me…my people…" 4?
* Character: Major enemy, but this is his first time actually appearing: 3.5
* When: 4 out of universe, 5 in. 3
* Deaths: Not yet 4
* [[spoiler:Back for a redemption equals death]]

Now for [[spoiler:said death]]
* Cause: 3
* Genre: 4
* Found: Yep, I think it's just abandoned given it's a battlefield. 1
* Reaction: Marth just shouts his name. 2?
* Last words: "Your highness... I leave [[spoiler:Maria]]’s fate to you..." 3?
* Character: I can say he at least somewhat counts as a "loved one" now though. 4.
* When: 6 years between the original and remake, same arc between his "death" and comeback in story. ?
* Deaths: once, 3.
* 20+ "when"'s result. Either a 3 or a 1. 2.8 or 2.6 [[spoiler:and he's back in the remake if you do it right]].

And [[spoiler:Hardin]]
* Cause: Redemeption (technically not him that was evil, but counts) 3
* Genre: 4
* Found: ?
* Reaction: Not mentioned for a bit, but Camus gives a "He's dead Jim" in the final. 3
* Character: main villain of the arc 1.
* When: Same year. 2
* Deaths: None, 4.
* 17/7 2.4 [[spoiler:he stays dead in both [=FE3=] AND [=FE12=]]].

From ''{{VideoGame/Fire Emblem Awakening}}'', [[spoiler: The Avatar, in the "Destroy Grima" ending.]]
* Cause of Death:
HeroicSacrifice due to {{Synchronization}}. However, [[spoiler: Naga]] [[ChekhovsGun explicitly says it's possible]] s/he might survive it. 2
by satellite blowing up. That's a 5.
* Genre: ''Awakening'' still falls under AnyoneCanDie, and unlike some (I don't know, needs calculation)
* Body: Not sure where to put this one, see cause
of the earlier games, there's no Aum staff. On the other hand [[spoiler: the Spotpass characters are all [[DisneyDeath Disney Deaths]]]], but they're dubiously canon, so I'll split the difference and call it a 3.
* Body Found: [[DisappearsIntoLight Disintegrates]] in plain sight of everyone. 4
death.
* Reaction: A heartfelt farewell and montage with friends and loved ones, but [[HesJustHiding most everyone thinks s/he isn't dead]]. 2
* Last Words: "May we meet again, in another life..." doesn't say anything about ''this'' life. 2
Felt like an ItsPersonal to me. So 2.
* Characterization: [[spoiler: PlayerCharacter and arguably I would call him a Regular. 2.
* When: Towards
the protagonist.]] 1
* When did they die?: End of the game. Possibly the SeriesFinale if ''Awakening'' didn't do as well as it did. 4
* "Died" and come back?: Nope. Every other time [=s/he=] could have died, [[WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou it stuck]]. 4
* 22/7 = 3.14. Surprisingly high considering [[spoiler: s/he comes back right after the credits roll]].

Let's look at [[spoiler:Azura]] from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' (''Birthright'' path)
* Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice (was using powers that were CastFromLifespan, used them until it killed [[spoiler:her]]). 3.
* Genre: ''Fates'' is even more AnyoneCanDie than past games, since it not only lacks a way of bringing characters back, it's not afraid to give your party members a PlotlineDeath (as seen here). 4.
* Body Found: [[DisappearsIntoLight Evaporates]] in front of everyone. 4.
* Reaction: General shock, horror and sorrow, since it was happening so fast. 3.
* FamousLastWords: Begging the PlayerCharacter not to cry about [[spoiler:her]] dying. 3.
* Characterization: [[spoiler:The deuteragonist.]] 1.
* When did they die?": End of the game. 4.
* "Died" and come back?: Nope. 4.
* 26/8 = 3.25. [[spoiler:She]]'s not coming back, and according to the epilogue, [[spoiler:she]] doesn't.

Now a look at [[spoiler:her]] death on the ''Conquest'' path
* Cause of Death: Overuse of the
end, I'd call that... same CastFromLifespan powers, though not ''quite'' a HeroicSacrifice this time. Average it out to a 2.5.
* Genre: Same as before. 4.
* Body Found: No. [[spoiler:She]] leaves so no one has to watch [[spoiler:her]] die. 1.
* Reaction: Confusion and wondering where [[spoiler:she]] went. 2.5
* FamousLastWords: A subtle goodbye speech to the protagonist. 3.
* Characterization: Same as before. 1.
* When did they die?: Same as before. 4.
* "Died" and come back?: Still the same. 4.
* 22/8 = 2.75. Well, [[spoiler:she]] has a better chance of surviving here than in ''Birthright'', but according to the epilogue no one ever saw [[spoiler:her]] again.

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''VideoGame/Persona3'':
[[spoiler: [[HelloInsertNameHere The Main Character]]]]
* Cause: HeroicSacrifice: 3.
* Genre: KilledOffForReal in the initial release of the game, but ''FES'' and ''[=P3P=]'' muddy the waters considerably. 2.5, maybe?
* Body Found: "The Answer" makes this more or less a 4.
* Reaction: "The Answer" is ''all about'' the other characters' efforts at coping. 4.
* Characterization: 1.
* Last Words: "Don't cry," or "It'll be okay." 3.
* Time of Death: End of the game. The Persona games are loosely connected rather than sharing casts or storylines, so this is almost but not quite equivalent to a Series Finale. 3.
arc? 1?
* Died and Come Came Back: Had a DisneyDeath during the final battle; we'll say 3.
* Average: 23.5/8 = 2.94. Might be back. [[spoiler:''VideoGame/Persona4'' mentions that Elizabeth has gone in search of a way to save him from the burden of being the Great Seal, which gives some support to the possibility.]]


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''Franchise/DragonAge'':

Duncan
Nope, so 4.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Dragon Age'']]

Duncan:



Flemeth

to:

FlemethFlemeth:



Cailan

to:

CailanCailan:



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''SaintsRow'':

Lin, in ''Saints Row''
* Cause of Death: Can be seen as [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat No-one could survive being drowned in the trunk of a car.]] (2)
* Genre: KilledOffForReal (3), it happened to her and Carlos, as far as the Saints go.
* Body Found?: She's been LeftForDead (1)
* Reaction: ItsPersonal, as far as it makes Donnie hate the Rollerz(2)
* Last words: "Run, you fools!". (2)
* Characterisation: Protagonist (1)
* When?: 5 or 10 years ago by now (3)
* Come back already?: Nope. (4)
* Avg: 18/8: 2.25. She may have survived.

Shogo Akuji, in ''Saints Row 2''
* Cause of Death:[[NoOneCouldSurviveThat No-one could survive a Texas Funeral]] (2)
* Genre: KilledOffForReal (3), it happened to Lin and Carlos!
* Body Found?: Although on a literal level he has been buried, he is LeftForDead (1)
* Reaction: None, really other than '[[HesDeadJim I think Akuji's dead by now.]]'(3)
* Last words: Not really words, but there is a 'oh shit' look on his face as he realises he's about to be buried alive, and he spends most of the cutscene begging for his life. OhCrap. (4)
* Characterisation: CListFodder (3) (at my count there's 10 antagonists, and Dane Vogel would be the BigBad.)
* When?: There's been two games and several years since. (3)
* Come back already?: Nope. (4)
* Average: 23/8: 2.875. He could be back, but don't count on it.

Aisha, in ''Saints Row 2''
* Cause of Death: Pretty much StuffedInTheFridge. '''4'''
* Genre: KilledOffForReal. '''3'''
* Body Found?: DeadAndBuried. '''4'''
* Reaction: ItsPersonal. '''2'''
* Last words: KilledMidSentence. '''4'''
* Characterisation: Johnny Gat's girlfriend, so a Loved One. '''4'''
* When?: A couple years back now. '''3'''
* Come back already?: Once, through FakingTheDead. '''3'''
* Average: 27/8=3,375. She's dead.

Johnny Gat, in ''Saints Row: The Third''
* Cause of Death: Shot and stuck on a crashing plane, NoOneCouldSurviveThat. '''2'''
* Genre: Lighthearted as the series is, death tends to stick, so KilledOffForReal. '''3'''
* Body Found?: Difficult one, as while a funeral is held for him, no one specifies whether they ever actually found his body for burial. It's either DeadAndBuried or NeverFoundTheBody, so let's split the difference and say '''3'''.
* Reaction: ItsPersonal through and through. '''2'''
* Last words: KilledMidSentence, not good. '''4'''
* Characterisation: Technically a regular, but also the series' most popular character, so he's a '''1'''.
* When?: Same arc. '''1'''
* Come back already?: Been through several near-death situations, but no actual "death". '''4'''
* Average: 20/8=2,5. Pretty good odds. [[spoiler:Indeed, the sequel confirnes he survived]].


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April Ryan in ''VideoGame/DreamfallTheLongestJourney'':

to:

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''SaintsRow'':

Lin,
[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Dragon Quest'']]

Greygnarl
in ''Saints Row''
''Dragon Quest IX'':
* Cause of Death: Can be seen as [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat No-one could survive being drowned in the trunk of Makes a car.]] (2)
* Genre: KilledOffForReal (3), it happened
HeroicSacrifice to her and Carlos, as far as the Saints go.
* Body Found?: She's been LeftForDead (1)
* Reaction: ItsPersonal, as far as it makes Donnie hate the Rollerz(2)
* Last words: "Run, you fools!". (2)
* Characterisation: Protagonist (1)
* When?: 5 or 10 years ago by now (3)
* Come back already?: Nope. (4)
* Avg: 18/8: 2.25. She may have survived.

Shogo Akuji, in ''Saints Row 2''
* Cause of Death:[[NoOneCouldSurviveThat No-one could survive a Texas Funeral]] (2)
* Genre: KilledOffForReal (3), it happened to Lin and Carlos!
* Body Found?: Although on a literal level he has been buried, he is LeftForDead (1)
* Reaction: None, really other than '[[HesDeadJim I think Akuji's dead by now.]]'(3)
* Last words: Not really words, but there is a 'oh shit' look on
protect his face as he realises he's about to be buried alive, and he spends most of the cutscene begging for his life. OhCrap. (4)
* Characterisation: CListFodder (3) (at my count there's 10 antagonists, and Dane Vogel would be the BigBad.)
* When?: There's been two games and several years since. (3)
* Come back already?: Nope. (4)
* Average: 23/8: 2.875. He could be back, but don't count on it.

Aisha, in ''Saints Row 2''
* Cause of Death: Pretty much StuffedInTheFridge. '''4'''
* Genre: KilledOffForReal. '''3'''
* Body Found?: DeadAndBuried. '''4'''
* Reaction: ItsPersonal. '''2'''
* Last words: KilledMidSentence. '''4'''
* Characterisation: Johnny Gat's girlfriend, so a Loved One. '''4'''
* When?: A couple years back now. '''3'''
* Come back already?: Once, through FakingTheDead. '''3'''
* Average: 27/8=3,375. She's dead.

Johnny Gat, in ''Saints Row: The Third''
* Cause of Death: Shot and stuck on a crashing plane, NoOneCouldSurviveThat. '''2'''
* Genre: Lighthearted as the series is, death tends to stick, so KilledOffForReal. '''3'''
* Body Found?: Difficult one, as while a funeral is held for him, no one specifies whether they ever actually found his body for burial. It's either DeadAndBuried or NeverFoundTheBody, so let's split the difference and say
hometown. '''3'''.
* Audience Expectation: KilledOffForReal more than anything else. '''3'''.
* Body Found?: When the blast of light fades after he is hit by the enormous attack, [[NeverFoundTheBody he's disappeared]]. '''2'''.
*
Reaction: Not much of one, to be honest, although the characters mention avenging him as another reason to stop the bad guys, which is close enough to ItsPersonal through and through. '''2'''
for this algorithm. '''2'''.
* Last words: KilledMidSentence, not good. '''4'''
Words: Gives his FamousLastWords to the hero before giving himself up. '''3'''.
* Characterisation: Technically a regular, but also Eh... In the series' most popular character, grand scheme of things, CListFodder. '''3'''.
* When did they die?: Dragon Quest games tend to be self-contained,
so he's a it's effectively the same arc. '''1'''.
* When?: Same arc. '''1'''
* Come back already?: Been through several near-death situations,
'Died' and came back?: No, not that we know of. '''4'''.

That comes to 21, which divided by 8 gives '''2.63'''. Surprisingly low, given the number of threes that he got,
but no actual "death". '''4'''
* Average: 20/8=2,5. Pretty good odds. [[spoiler:Indeed,
the sequel confirnes game would have you believe that he's snuffed it for good. [[spoiler: You should therefore all be rather surprised to discover that he survived]].


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is an extra grotto boss later on.]]

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Dreamfall: The Longest Journey'']]

April Ryan in ''VideoGame/DreamfallTheLongestJourney'':Ryan:



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Rugal Bernstein from ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' series:

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[[/folder]]

[[folder:''The Elder Scrolls'']]

[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Almalexia]]
* Cause: just plain killed in a duel by the player character. I think that's about 3.
* Genre: High Fantasy. Technically in this universe death isn't cheap, but godlike beings tend to pop back into existence more or less often. Let's give her a 2.
* Body Found: Left for dead in the Clockwork City. A clear-cut 1.
* Reaction: No one believed she's dead. 1
* Last Words: a "Piece of cake" speech about how she's going to off Nerevarine. 2
* Character: archvillainess / fallen heroine. 1
* When: In Skyrim's times it's about 200 years after her death. 4
* How many times: Not yet. 4
Score: 2.57. Something between "Be back soon" and "Maybe back later".

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Final Fantasy'']]

[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth]]
* Cause of death: Overkill (How many swords did Cloud use, please?). 4
* Genre: Back from the dead. 1
* Body Found: [[GrandTheftMe Didn't really have an actual body this time.]]
* Reaction: It's personal. Geostima? Didn't actually need it, just wanted to mess with Cloud. 2
* Last Words: [[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning "I'll never be a memory."]] 1
* Characterization: Archvillian. 1
* When did they die: Same Arc. 1
* Died and come back: Twice. 2
1.7142. Mama's boy is coming back, did ''anyone'' doubt it?
* He won against the Master ''and'' Davros. Yes, he IS that awesome.

[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII Fang and Vanille]]
* Cause of death : HeroicSacrifice. 3
* Genre : Well, DeathIsCheap is the choice here, since all the "dead" main characters but Nora Estheim come back. 1
* Body Found : Analogous to Frozen. 2
* Reaction : Their part of the ending cutscene and the novella episode i could count as a Montage. 4
* Last Words : They talk to the others after their death and tell them they'll watch them or something, counts as a FinalSpeech. 3
* Characterization : Two protagonists. 1
* When : A little more than a year ago, so… let's say same year. 2
* "Died" and came back : Well, they already went to crystal stasis and came back, so… Once and got better. 3
2,375. They should be back in ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2 XIII-2]]''.

While we're on the subject, let's talk about [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2 Serah]]:
* Cause of death : Knew that she would die if she continued her journey, but did so anyway, so it's a sacrifice. 3
* Genre : As above, DeathIsCheap. 1
* Body Found : Not applicable, as it happens in front of her companions.
* Reaction : HesDeadJim occurs at the time, while the ''Requiem Of The Goddess'' DLC makes it a montage. 3.5
* Last Words : Manages a strained and short FinalSpeech before death. 3
* Characterization : Protagonist. 1
* When : The Ending. 4
* "Died" and came back : Crystal Stasis in the first game. 3
Average of 2.643, so she'll be back sometime soon (assuming there's another sequel of course).

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[[folder:''Fire Emblem'']]

FireEmblem 4's mass slaughter of the player's allies at the Battle of Barhara.

Let's start with Levin:
* Cause: Bridge Drop. 4
* Genre: Fire Emblem is noted for it's perma death, but Jugdral is the one universe where the power to bring back the dead can be used more than once. 3
* Body Found: Not mentioned.
* Reaction: His kids are pretty miffed, 2.
* Last words:Not applied
* Character: Regular 2
* When: Over 10 years between the 2 generations. 4
* Died and come back: The player can use the Valkyrie staff on him, but that only happens if they screw up badly enough to get a [[spoiler:Holsety user]] killed, which is very rare. Not yet: 4
* 20 and 6: 3.3 [[spoiler:It takes divine intervention to get him back]]

Now someone who isn't confirmed Ira:
* Cause: Same. 4
* Genre: same. 3
* Body found: The 5th game says at least some of the women at the battle were alive... [[spoiler:and got turned to stone]]. Frozen. 2
* Reaction: again, 2nd gen is quite annoyed, 2
* Last words: ?
* Character: Unlike [[spoiler:Levin]], not a holy weapon holder, so I'd rank her a 3
* When: again, over 10 years in game AND about 10 years IRL, 4
* Come back: Again, not yet. 4
* 22 by 7: 3.142. Hey [[spoiler:Levin]] lives (and is [[spoiler:forced to abandon his children]] granted) with a higher score... Given her popularity she has a chance if an [=FE4=] (preferably combined with [=FE5=]) remake is done.

For comparison, let's do someone who has come back in the series: Michalis in [=FE1=], [=FE3=] book 1 and Shadow Dragon:
* Cause of death: Killed by Marth's army ([=FE3=] says that canonically his sister defeated him but couldn't kill him). Given that it wasn't until latter that story units got unhealable wounds instead of dieing, reaching 0 HP in Fire Emblem is pretty dead. 2?
* Genre: Anyone can die. 4
* Body found: No mention is given to what happened to it in the original, but said to be cared for by his sister in [=FE3=]. 1
* Reaction: 3 (We really need examples of what warrents what for villain deaths)
* Last words: "Aaagh… I am finished… Forgive me…my people…" 4?
* Character: Major enemy, but this is his first time actually appearing: 3.5
* When: 4 out of universe, 5 in. 3
* Deaths: Not yet 4
* Back for a redemption equals death]]

Now for said death:
* Cause: 3
* Genre: 4
* Found: Yep, I think it's just abandoned given it's a battlefield. 1
* Reaction: Marth just shouts his name. 2?
* Last words: "Your highness... I leave [[spoiler:Maria]]’s fate to you..." 3?
* Character: I can say he at least somewhat counts as a "loved one" now though. 4.
* When: 6 years between the original and remake, same arc between his "death" and comeback in story. ?
* Deaths: once, 3.
* 20+ "when"'s result. Either a 3 or a 1. 2.8 or 2.6 [[spoiler:and he's back in the remake if you do it right]].

And Hardin:
* Cause: Redemeption (technically not him that was evil, but counts) 3
* Genre: 4
* Found: ?
* Reaction: Not mentioned for a bit, but Camus gives a "He's dead Jim" in the final. 3
* Character: main villain of the arc 1.
* When: Same year. 2
* Deaths: None, 4.
* 17/7 2.4 [[spoiler:he stays dead in both [=FE3=] AND [=FE12=]]].

From ''{{VideoGame/Fire Emblem Awakening}}'', The Avatar, in the "Destroy Grima" ending:
* Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice due to {{Synchronization}}. However, [[spoiler: Naga]] [[ChekhovsGun explicitly says it's possible]] s/he might survive it. 2
* Genre: ''Awakening'' still falls under AnyoneCanDie, and unlike some of the earlier games, there's no Aum staff. On the other hand [[spoiler: the Spotpass characters are all [[DisneyDeath Disney Deaths]]]], but they're dubiously canon, so I'll split the difference and call it a 3.
* Body Found: [[DisappearsIntoLight Disintegrates]] in plain sight of everyone. 4
* Reaction: A heartfelt farewell and montage with friends and loved ones, but [[HesJustHiding most everyone thinks s/he isn't dead]]. 2
* Last Words: "May we meet again, in another life..." doesn't say anything about ''this'' life. 2
* Characterization: [[spoiler: PlayerCharacter and arguably the protagonist.]] 1
* When did they die?: End of the game. Possibly the SeriesFinale if ''Awakening'' didn't do as well as it did. 4
* "Died" and come back?: Nope. Every other time [=s/he=] could have died, [[WeCannotGoOnWithoutYou it stuck]]. 4
* 22/7 = 3.14. Surprisingly high considering [[spoiler: s/he comes back right after the credits roll]].

Let's look at Azura from ''VideoGame/FireEmblemFates'' (''Birthright'' path):
* Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice (was using powers that were CastFromLifespan, used them until it killed [[spoiler:her]]). 3.
* Genre: ''Fates'' is even more AnyoneCanDie than past games, since it not only lacks a way of bringing characters back, it's not afraid to give your party members a PlotlineDeath (as seen here). 4.
* Body Found: [[DisappearsIntoLight Evaporates]] in front of everyone. 4.
* Reaction: General shock, horror and sorrow, since it was happening so fast. 3.
* FamousLastWords: Begging the PlayerCharacter not to cry about [[spoiler:her]] dying. 3.
* Characterization: [[spoiler:The deuteragonist.]] 1.
* When did they die?": End of the game. 4.
* "Died" and come back?: Nope. 4.
* 26/8 = 3.25. [[spoiler:She]]'s not coming back, and according to the epilogue, [[spoiler:she]] doesn't.

Now a look at her death on the ''Conquest'' path:
* Cause of Death: Overuse of the same CastFromLifespan powers, though not ''quite'' a HeroicSacrifice this time. Average it out to a 2.5.
* Genre: Same as before. 4.
* Body Found: No. [[spoiler:She]] leaves so no one has to watch [[spoiler:her]] die. 1.
* Reaction: Confusion and wondering where [[spoiler:she]] went. 2.5
* FamousLastWords: A subtle goodbye speech to the protagonist. 3.
* Characterization: Same as before. 1.
* When did they die?: Same as before. 4.
* "Died" and come back?: Still the same. 4.
* 22/8 = 2.75. Well, [[spoiler:she]] has a better chance of surviving here than in ''Birthright'', but according to the epilogue no one ever saw [[spoiler:her]] again.

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[[folder:''Gears of War'']]

Private Antony Carmine:
* Cause of Death: Got sniped in the head because a) he was wearing a helmet (and thus lacked peripheral vision), and b) he was dumb enough to stand up in the middle of a firefight. Definitely DeathByIrony. 4.
* Genre: Not really AnyoneCanDie, as the only characters ''to'' die are the ones expected to (the RedShirt, the Squad Leader, and the BigBad). Otherwise, though, death is handled realistically, so, KilledOffForReal. 3.
* Body Found?: We see his head burst (or at least blood splatter), but the actual body is left behind for dead (the squad was being shot at and chased off at the time), so somewhere between NeverFoundTheBody and DeaderThanDead. I'd say 3.5.
* Reaction: No real reaction other than brief surprise, since the surviving squad members are busy being shot at. I'm gonna say not applicable.
* Characterization: RedShirt. [[GenreSavvy Carmine is even a shade of red]]. A definite 4.
* When did they die?: Gears of War 2 takes place, what, a year after the original game? 2.
* Died and came back?: Nope. Realistically, this is a KilledOffForReal genre. 4.
* '''Average:''' 3.42. He ''should'' be just another forgotten dead RedShirt. And yet WordOfGod is that he's coming back in the sequel... How's that for accuracy, folks?
* Although "a" Carmine joined Fenix's gang in Gears of War 2, it was not the original Carmine; it was his brother.

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[[folder:''Half-Life'']]

Dr. Breen in ''Half Life 2'':
* Cause: Last seen trapped in a teleporter device about 50 feet below the epi-center of a massive explosion, so definitely NoOneCouldSurviveThat. 2.
* Genre: No major characters have died yet (Eli's fate is still in limbo until Episode 3 comes out). Alyx was pretty much dead, but brought back to life by the Vortigaunts, so BackFromTheDead. 1.
* Body Found?: Nope. See Cause. 3.
* Reaction: Almost none at all, actually. The protagonists don't celebrate (or even really remark on) his death, although one civilian does miss his show (he used to have jugglers!). No score.
* Characterization: Main antagonist (although ultimately he was just a tool of the Combine), so 1.
* When did they die: Technically, ''Episodes'' are expansion packs to ''Half Life 2'', so Same Arc. 1.
* Died and Come Back?: Never happened, because no one's died yet. 4.
* '''Average:''' An even 2. I guess we'll be seeing him in ''Episode 3'', so literally Back Next Episode. There's good money that the Combine Advisor in ''Episode 2'' is his new "host body".

Eli Vance, last seen being cranium-raped by a giant alien slug in the DownerEnding of ''Episode 2'':
* Cause: Well, he gave Gordon his final orders, then attacked the Advisor to distract it, so a HeroicSacrifice. 3.
* Genre: Same series, so 1 (see above).
* Body Found?: ''Episode 2'' fades out just as you reach his body, so there hasn't been time to check for a pulse, but he really looks DeaderThanDead. 4.
* Reaction: The game fades out with Alyx's hearfelt sobs over her father's body. This is obviously ItsPersonal, to get us in the mood to kick Advisor ass in ''Episode 3''. The rather down mood also kind of makes it HesDeadJim, too. I'll say 2.5.
* Characterization: [[DeathByOriginStory Loved One]]. AND WiseOldMentor to boot. Definitely a 4.
* When Did They Die?: The story is currently right up to his death, so definitely same arc. 1.
* Died and Come Back?: Nope. 4.
* '''Average:''' 2.79. I suppose he could just be a vegetable...

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[[folder:''Halo'']]

Sgt. Johnson's death from the very end of the ''Halo'' Trilogy:
* Cause of Death: He makes it to the very end of the trilogy, only to be killed off completely out of left field by Guilty Spark to set up the final battle. Sounds a lot like they DroppedABridgeOnHim, but he also uses his last shot to save Master Chief from Spark, so it might count as a HeroicSacrifice instead. I'll give him a '''3.5'''.
* Genre: Nominally KilledOffForReal, although by the end pretty much ''everyone'' is dead except for Chief, Cortana, and Arbiter, so might count as AnyoneCanDie also. Again, I'll split the difference and give it a '''3.5'''.
* Body Found?: Died in Master Chief's arms. Chief never bothered to take a pulse, but I'll assume he's not an idiot and had some way of knowing Johnson had expired and not simply passed out. And then the Halo he died on blew up, although see below... So, DeaderThanDead. '''4'''.
* Reaction: [[HesDeadJim He's Dead, Jim]]. '''3'''.
* Characterization: Started out as a RedShirt in ''Halo'', but was made a series Regular in ''Halo 2''. '''2'''.
* When did they die?: Doesn't really count, since the series ends after his death. No score.
* Died and came back?: There was that little matter of being on a giant Ringworld just as it gets blown up in a massive explosion, yet coming back alive and well for the sequel. So a definite yes, he's done it before. '''3'''.
* Average = '''3.17'''. Rest in Peace, Sarge. "You were one hard-core son of a bitch".

Cortana:
* Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice / NoOneCouldSurviveThat. Shields the Master Chief from a nuke. 2.5
* Genre: KillEmAll. Earth's colonies burn, and Earth's own population is reduced to 200 million. Capable, sympathetic people like Sgt. Johnson, Capt. Keyes, and his daughter, Lt. Commander Keyes are killed. Reach is a game in which all of your friends are killed and then you sacrifice yourself. Only Sgt. Johnson has been brought back from apparent death. 4
* Body Found?: NeverFoundTheBody. Cortana herself told John she would not survive the explosion, though. 2.5
* Reaction: He's Dead, Jim. Lasky consoles the Chief on his loss. 3
* Last Words: ObiWanMoment. Cortana uses the last of her strength to say goodbye. 3
* Characterization: Protagonist/Regular. Easily the second-most important character. 1.5
* When Did They Die?: Same year, relative to Halo 5. 2
* "Died" and came back?: Left behind surrounded by enemies on High Charity. 3.5
* Average: 2.75. Probably replaced by "another Cortana model".

Didact:
* Cause of Death: Jumping after taking a grenade to the chest. 1.5
* Genre: KilledOffForReal. 343 Guilty Spark survived the destruction of his installation, but the Prophets stayed dead. 3
* Body Found?: Left for Dead, then nuked. 1.5
* Reaction?: He's Dead, Jim. Cortana congratulates the Chief for saving the day as always. 3
* Last Words: FamousLastWords / FinalSpeech. Attacked by Cortana, he tells her that "Your compassion for mankind is misplaced." "I'm not doing this for mankind," she replies. Voiceover explanation of his motives on the epilogue. 3
* Characterization: Archvillain. A lot of lore has gone into setting up the Didact/Librarian story. 1
* When Did They Die?: Same year, relative to Halo 5. 2
* "Died" and came back?: Once as the Ur-Didact, once as Bornstellar. 2
* Average: 2.13. The Chief hasn't seen the last of him.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Kid Icarus'']]

Hades from VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising
* Cause:[[spoiler: Overkill including but not limited to getting his torso chopped off, his head ripped off his body, and getting blasted to ashes]], 4
* Genre:[[spoiler: DeathIsCheap when it comes to gods]], 1
* Body:[[spoiler: Got blasted into dust by a giant laser beam during the FinalBattle; Hades even said he isn't even sure if he can get his body back]], 4
* Reaction:[[spoiler: Pit does a VSign after he won; that could count as a BondOneLiner]], 4
* Last Words: [[spoiler: Hades said FamousLastWords as he was dying]], 3
* Characterization: [[spoiler: Serves as the BigBad of the last two-thirds of the game]], 1
* When: [[spoiler: He just died]], 1
* Died and Come Back: [[spoiler: As far as we know, this is the first time Hades died]], 4
Score: 22/8 = 2.75 [[spoiler: Hades may come back since he probably has at least 25 years before the next game comes out; that's plenty of time to figure out a way to come back.]]

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''The King of Fighters'']]

Rugal Bernstein from ''VideoGame/TheKingOfFighters'' series:Bernstein:



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Let's take a look at [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Luca Blight]], arguably the greatest RPG villain ever.
* Cause: Bombarded with arrows, attacked in three consecutive melee battles, bombarded with arrows ''again'', and finally defeated in one-on-one with TheHero. NoOneCouldSurviveThat=2.
* Genre: Well, it's VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}, so AnyoneCanDie. 4.
* Body: Well, his body was pretty clearly found, and was riddled with arrows to boot, but was never actually seen being disposed of in any way, so...3.5.
* Reaction: HesDeadJim. 3.
* Last Words: [[FamousLastWords "I am sublime! I am the true face of evil!"]] 3.
* Characterization: Archvillain. 1.
* When: Well, seeing as VideoGame/{{Suikoden III}} takes place 15 years later...let's just say 4, all right?
* Died Before: No, so 4.
* 24.5/8=3.0625. Pretty sure he's dead, but then, who knows what Suiko 6 may hold?

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''MagicalStarsign'':

[[spoiler:Semolina]]

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Let's take a look at [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Luca Blight]], arguably the greatest RPG villain ever.
* Cause: Bombarded with arrows, attacked
[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Magical Vacation'']]

Semolina
in three consecutive melee battles, bombarded with arrows ''again'', and finally defeated in one-on-one with TheHero. NoOneCouldSurviveThat=2.
* Genre: Well, it's VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}, so AnyoneCanDie. 4.
* Body: Well, his body was pretty clearly found, and was riddled with arrows to boot, but was never actually seen being disposed of in any way, so...3.5.
* Reaction: HesDeadJim. 3.
* Last Words: [[FamousLastWords "I am sublime! I am the true face of evil!"]] 3.
* Characterization: Archvillain. 1.
* When: Well, seeing as VideoGame/{{Suikoden III}} takes place 15 years later...let's just say 4, all right?
* Died Before: No, so 4.
* 24.5/8=3.0625. Pretty sure he's dead, but then, who knows what Suiko 6 may hold?

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''MagicalStarsign'':

[[spoiler:Semolina]]
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''VideoGame/AdvanceWars'' series examples. Let's start with [[spoiler:Sturm]] in Black Hole Rising:
* Cause: mix of BridgeDrop and NoOneCouldSurviveThat (he was hit by [[spoiler:Black Storm]]) - 3
* Genre: first "death" in the series. Add the [[spoiler:clone usage]] and it's 1.5
* Body: seems to be right there, but [[spoiler:seeing as he wasn't unmasked]], let's count this as NeverFound - 3

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''VideoGame/AdvanceWars'' series examples. Let's start with [[spoiler:Sturm]] in Black Hole Rising:
[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Mass Effect'']]

Kaidan/Ashley on Virmire:
* Cause: mix HeroicSacrifice by way of BridgeDrop and NoOneCouldSurviveThat (he was hit by [[spoiler:Black Storm]]) - a multi-kiloton nuke, 3
* Genre: first "death" in the series. Add the [[spoiler:clone usage]] The whole Virmire incident seems to say that AnyoneCanDie, so a 4
* Body: Never Found, 3
* Reaction: Between montage
and it's 1.He's dead, 3.5
* Characterization: The border between Mauve shirt and Regular, so I'll give 'em a 2.5
* When? By Mass Effect 2 it'll be into "Same Year" territory. 2
* Died and come back? Nope. 4, that's not good!
* I got a straight up 3, for back next season. Trumped by WordOfGod, which says that they're [[KilledOffForReal staying dead]].

For that matter, Saren (the first time):
* Cause: Redemption - 3
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: seems to be right there, 1.5 - would have been LeftForDead, but [[spoiler:seeing as he wasn't unmasked]], let's count this as NeverFound - 3one of your team members shoots him again to make sure.



* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: [[spoiler:Archvillain - 1]]
* When: [[right at the end]] in Black Hole Rising - 1; same year in Dual Strike - 2
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: [[spoiler:20.5/8 = 2.5625]] in Black Hole Rising, [[spoiler:21.5/8 = 2.6875]] in Dual Strike. [[spoiler:He could come back, especially if Hawke had killed a clone.]]

Dual Strike follows up with a couple. First, [[spoiler:the Andy clone]]:
* Cause: [[spoiler:left to die]] - 3?
* Genre: Up to this point, only [[spoiler:Sturm]] had "died", but the [[spoiler:clone usage]] is useless for lowering his score - 2.5
* Body: Right there - 4
* Reaction: ItsPersonal - 2
* Last Words: FamousLastWords - 3
* Role: I'd say RedShirt - 4
* When: same arc, late in the game - 1
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: 23.5/8 = 2.9375. Not too likely to come back, [[spoiler:but another Andy clone may]]

And [[spoiler:Von Bolt]]:
* Cause: KarmicDeath - 4
* Genre: see above - 2
* Body: Right there again - 4
* Reaction: None given, but then he invited Karma's wrath - 4
* Last Words: [[spoiler:TakingYouWithMe -- failed miserably]] - 4
* Role: [[spoiler:Archvillain - 1]]
* When: [[spoiler:right at the end - 1]]
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: [[spoiler:24/8 = 3. Of course, even if he does come back, he's not even in a condition to sweep any streets.]]

Now for Days of Ruin. There's a bunch of them. First, the Beast:
* Cause: [[spoiler:YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness]] - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: Right there - 4
* Reaction: none - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: RedShirt - 4

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* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: [[spoiler:Archvillain - 1]]
* When: [[right at the end]] in Black Hole Rising - 1; same year in Dual Strike - 2
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: [[spoiler:20.5/8 = 2.5625]] in Black Hole Rising, [[spoiler:21.5/8 = 2.6875]] in Dual Strike. [[spoiler:He could come back, especially if Hawke had killed a clone.]]

Dual Strike follows up with a couple. First, [[spoiler:the Andy clone]]:
* Cause: [[spoiler:left to die]] - 3?
* Genre: Up to this point, only [[spoiler:Sturm]] had "died", but the [[spoiler:clone usage]] is useless for lowering his score - 2.5
* Body: Right there - 4
* Reaction: ItsPersonal - 2
* Last Words: FamousLastWords
words: FinalSpeech - 3
* Role: I'd say RedShirt - 4
* When: same arc, late in the game - 1
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: 23.5/8 = 2.9375. Not too likely to come back, [[spoiler:but another Andy clone may]]

And [[spoiler:Von Bolt]]:
* Cause: KarmicDeath - 4
* Genre: see above - 2
* Body: Right there again - 4
* Reaction: None given, but then
Characterization: Archvillan initially (except he invited Karma's wrath actually isn't) - 4
* Last Words: [[spoiler:TakingYouWithMe -- failed miserably]] - 4
* Role: [[spoiler:Archvillain - 1]]
* When: [[spoiler:right at the end - 1]]
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: [[spoiler:24/8 = 3. Of course, even if he does come back, he's not even in a condition to sweep any streets.]]

Now for Days of Ruin. There's a bunch of them. First, the Beast:
* Cause: [[spoiler:YouHaveOutlivedYourUsefulness]] - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: Right there - 4
* Reaction: none - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: RedShirt - 4
1.5



* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: 29/8 = 3.625. [[VideoGame/BattalionWars He's had it, commander.]]

Next is Forsythe:
* Cause: BridgeDrop - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: Right there again - 4
* Reaction: Montage - 4
* Last Words: FamousLastWords - 3
* Role: AntiVillain - 2.5
* When: Same arc - 1
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: 26.5/8 = 3.3125. [[spoiler:May that coward Greyfield pay for what he did.]]

And of course, [[spoiler:Brenner]]:
* Cause: HeroicSacrifice, [[spoiler:could be considered RedemptionEqualsDeath in his own viewpoint]] - 3
* Genre: take a wild guess - 4
* Body: NotFound, but [[spoiler:the area got nuked]] - 3.5
* Reaction: Montage - 4
* Last Words: FamousLastWords - 3
* Role: [[spoiler:Regular]] - 2
* When: Same arc - 1
* Come back before: believed to be dead at one point, but other than that, no - 3.5
* Average: 24/8 = 3. Actually good for [[spoiler:being nuked]].

[[spoiler:Davis]] in the American version:
* Cause: DeathByIrony - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, of course - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Body: LeftForDead - 1
* Reaction: none, really - 3
* Role: MauveShirt - 4
* When: Same arc - 1
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: 25/8 = 3.125. Not looking too good for the poor guy.

[[spoiler:Greyfield]]:
* Cause: DeathByIrony - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, naturally - 4
* Body: right there - 4
* Reaction: AndThereWasMuchRejoicing - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: DiscOneFinalBoss - 4
* When: Same arc, again - 1
* Come back before: nope - 4
* Average: 29/8 = 3.625. The moral of the story? Never [[spoiler:murder [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POW POW]]s]], or [[spoiler:nuke your own people to kill the idealist commander of an AntiHero subordinate]].

[[spoiler:The Mayor]]:
* Cause: KarmicDeath - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: right there - 4
* Reaction: none, really; can be considered AndThereWasMuchRejoicing for the audience - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: recurring character - 3
* When: same arc, but becomes a year past soon afterwards - 2.5
* Come back before: no - 4
* Average: 29.5/8 = 3.6875. He's toast.

[[spoiler:Cyrus]]:
* Cause: HeroicSacrifice - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: right there again - 4
* Reaction: Montage - 4
* Last Words: FamousLastWords - 3
* Role: recurring character - 3
* When: same arc, but becomes a year past soon afterwards - 2.5
* Come back before: no - 4
* Average: 28.5/8 = 3.5625. May he rest in peace.

[[spoiler:The real Dr. Caulder]]
* Cause: DeathByIrony - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: [[spoiler:A passing reference that he was in a plane crash hints at this in the first place, and his murderer--the clone that was running around--watched him die]] - 4
* Reaction: [[spoiler:His clone found "watching yourself die" [[CatchPhrase fascinating]]]] - 4
* Last Words: none, but no shown speaking role - 4
* Role: [[spoiler:creator and victim of the BigBad]] - 4
* When: before the start of the game, quite possibly before the meteors - 4
* Come back before: no, and [[spoiler:there barely any hint that the Caulder you fight is a clone]] - 4
* Average: 32/8 = 4. You got first place.

And finally, [[spoiler:Dr. Caulder himself, or rather, the clone]]:
* Cause: DeathByIrony (hey, I think I'll not try to escape the player who just turned my ScrappyLevel into a joke so that he toys with me and doesn't blow up the last of the lasers right away to destroy the level when he can easily do so any time he pleases, because [[spoiler:[[NotSoDifferent he must find it]]...[[CatchPhrase fascinating]]]]) - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: LeftForDead - 1
* Reaction: none, really - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: BigBad in an AnyoneCanDie game - 4
* When: same arc, but a year passes after his death - 2.5
* Come back before: no - 4 [[spoiler:(no, being a clone who killed your own creator doesn't lower your score, Caulder)]]
* Average: 27.5/8 = 3.4375. Very unlikely, but could come back.

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[[spoiler:[[KnightInShiningArmor Bolvar Fordragon]] and [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Saurfang jr.]]]] from WorldOfWarcraft

[[spoiler: Bolvar]]:
* Cause: Dropped a few barrels filled with a deadly disease (that destroys living beings and undead alike) on him. [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat No one survived that]]: 2
* Genre: For player Characters, [[DeathIsCheap Death may be cheap]], but when they make a cinematic showing you die, then you usually stay dead ([[TheUndead with or without prefix]]): 3
* Body: either the disease rotted his flesh away, or he got burned by the breath of the red dragons. Either way, The Body's gone: 4
* Reaction: ItsPersonal for King Wrynn, and causes a major War between the Alliance and the Horde: 2
* Characterization: [[spoiler:Former Boss of Stormwind]] and major Character in Wrath of the Lich King: 2
* When: Same year: 2
* Died and come back: nope: 4
* Average: 19/7 = 2.71. Will probably come back in one of the next patches (possibly as a Boss in [[SupervillainLair Icecrown Citadel]])

[[spoiler: Saurfang jr.]]:
* Cause: Got his soul sucked out of him by the games trademark [[ArtifactOfDoom Artifact of Doom]]: 2
* Genre: See above: 3
* Body: See above: 4
* Reaction: [[ItsPersonal Its Personal]]. The Horde ain't to happy about his death.: 2
* Characterization: Recurring Character: 3
* When: Same year: 2
* Dead and back: Again, no: 4
* Average: 20/7= 2.85. A bit deader than the above, but still likely to be a future boss encounter.

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For kicks, I'll do some counting on Creator/{{Capcom}} FightingGame deaths....

Hyo Imawano, ''Project Justice (VideoGame/RivalSchools 2)''
* Cause: Body ravaged by being possesed by his dad's spirit. Considering that point in the story he's trying to undo his dad's influence on his views, this is DeathByIrony. 4
* Genre: Conflict here. This is the FightingGame genre, where usually DeathIsCheap (see also: [[StreetFighter Bison, M.; Gouken]]; [[{{Tekken}} Mishima, Kazuya]]). However, this is also a KilledOffFOrReal considering [[Creator/KanetoShiozawa Hyo's seiyuu]] died (this reason also killed off Zato-1 of ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'') and Rival Schools really hasn't had any major character deaths yet. Let's split the difference here - 2
* Body: Pretty much dies in Kyosuke's arms, but like his twin himself, the body has seemingly disappeared. Unless a future RS game shows a funeral, we'll split the difference again. 3.5
* Reaction: HesDeadJim from Batsu. 3
* Last Words: FamousLastWords to Kyosuke. 3
* Characterization: He's Kyosuke's beloved twin brother, so LovedOne. 4
* When he died: Since ''Project Justice'' is the most recent game in the series so far and was released close to a decade ago - 4
* Died and come back: The series' first and only major death so far, and no third game yet to see if it happens. 4.
* Average: 3.4375. His hopes of coming back are as likely as a ''Rival Schools 3'' happening.

Charlie Nash, ''VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha 3''
* Cause: According to Guile's A3 ending, holding back M. Bison long enough to allow explosives set up by Guile and Charlie to blow up Shadaloo's base. Mix of NoOneCouldSurviveThat and HeroicSacrifice. 2.5
* Genre: This is StreetFighter, so DeathIsCheap. 1
* Body: Never found, confirmed by Guile's SF IV intro. 3
* Reaction: ItsPersonal for Guile. 2
* Last Words: Telling Guile that he'll finish off Bison and to get out of the base. Something of a mix of "Run!" and FamousLastWords, so 2.5
* Characterization: His presence in the Alpha series is there to give impetus to Guile's story, so DeathByOriginStory. 4
* When He Died: 10+ years ago. 4
* Died and come back: Twice prior his Alpha 3 appearance. Both times were declared CanonDisContinuity by WordOfGod, but they still happened. 2
* Average: 2.625. Dead, and unlikely to come back. As noted above, though, that hasn't stopped Capcom before.

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Beatrice from ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry''
* Cause: Honestly? PuffOfLogic. Not sure it's listed, but the fight had some similarity to redemption, so I'll give it - 3
* Body: She disappeared in a PuffOfLogic; what do you think? NeverFoundTheBody - 3
* Reaction: ItsPersonal - 2
* Genre: KillEmAll... over and over and over again. Does that make this DeathIsCheap? I'll give it - 1.5
* LastWords: A thank you to Battler for having fun with her during their game. I'll call it a FinalSpeech, I guess - 3
* Characterization: Archvillain for whom the main character is TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou. And he didn't - 1
* Died and came back: Once - 3
* When: Last arc - 2
* 17.5/8 = 2.1875 She's probably coming back in an arc or two.
** [[spoiler: Beatrice was resurrected in Ep 6, ''but'' she was based of Battler's memories of her, the original Beatrice III/Yasu died filled with regret.]]

[[spoiler: Yasu]] at the end of the series.
* Cause: RedemptionEqualsDeath through suicide - 3
* Body: NeverFoundTheBody due to jumping overboard into the sea - 2
* Reaction: [[spoiler: Battler]] jumped after so let's say a 2
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie [[spoiler: since no one but Battler, Eva and Yasu survived the massacre]] - 4
* LastWords: LastKiss, can that count as a FinalSpeech? In that case a 3
* Characterization: As confusing as it is [[spoiler: Yasu]] counts as a protagonist - 1
* Died and came back While the series is built on a GroundhogDayLoop, this scene shows the real Rokkenjima - 4
* When: The body wasn't found before the DistantFinale - 4
* 23/8=2,875, probably dead but there's still a possibility that the WMG is true and that [[spoiler: Yasu survived and changed his/her name to Ikuko Hachijō]]
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[=GLaDOS=] from VideoGame/{{Portal}}

to:

* Come back before: Died and come back: No - 4
* Average: 29/8 = 3.625. [[VideoGame/BattalionWars He's had it, commander.Overall: 3. [[spoiler:He comes back immediately after.]]
** [[spoiler: Well, not so much ''him'' as the implants that Sovereign gave him. By that point, Saren's either [[DeaderThanDead already gone]] or in an AndIMustScream situation.
]]

Next is Forsythe:
And, just for fun since [[ItWasHisSled we know]] [[BackFromTheDead the outcome]], the first time Commander Shepard dies at the beginning of [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 [=ME2=]]]:
* Cause: BridgeDrop - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: Right there again - 4
* Reaction: Montage - 4
* Last Words: FamousLastWords - 3
* Role: AntiVillain - 2.5
* When: Same arc - 1
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: 26.5/8 = 3.3125. [[spoiler:May that coward Greyfield pay for what he did.]]

And of course, [[spoiler:Brenner]]:
* Cause:
Do they ''make'' bridges big enough to drop on entire ships? That said, Shepard died trying to save Joker, so maybe we could count this as a HeroicSacrifice, [[spoiler:could be considered RedemptionEqualsDeath in his own viewpoint]] - 3
* Genre: take a wild guess - 4
* Body: NotFound, but [[spoiler:the area got nuked]] - 3.5
* Reaction: Montage - 4
* Last Words: FamousLastWords - 3
* Role: [[spoiler:Regular]] - 2
* When: Same arc - 1
* Come back before: believed to be dead at one point, but other than that, no - 3.5
* Average: 24/8 = 3. Actually good for [[spoiler:being nuked]].

[[spoiler:Davis]] in the American version:
* Cause: DeathByIrony - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, of course - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Body: LeftForDead - 1
* Reaction: none, really - 3
* Role: MauveShirt - 4
* When: Same arc - 1
* Come back before: No - 4
* Average: 25/8 = 3.125. Not looking too good for the poor guy.

[[spoiler:Greyfield]]:
* Cause: DeathByIrony - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, naturally - 4
* Body: right there - 4
* Reaction: AndThereWasMuchRejoicing - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: DiscOneFinalBoss - 4
* When: Same arc, again - 1
* Come back before: nope - 4
* Average: 29/8 = 3.625. The moral of the story? Never [[spoiler:murder [[http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POW POW]]s]], or [[spoiler:nuke your own people to kill the idealist commander of an AntiHero subordinate]].

[[spoiler:The Mayor]]:
* Cause: KarmicDeath - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: right there - 4
* Reaction: none, really; can be considered AndThereWasMuchRejoicing for the audience - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: recurring character - 3
* When: same arc, but becomes a year past soon afterwards - 2.5
* Come back before: no - 4
* Average: 29.5/8 = 3.6875. He's toast.

[[spoiler:Cyrus]]:
* Cause: HeroicSacrifice - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: right there again - 4
* Reaction: Montage - 4
* Last Words: FamousLastWords - 3
* Role: recurring character - 3
* When: same arc, but becomes a year past soon afterwards - 2.5
* Come back before: no - 4
* Average: 28.5/8 = 3.5625. May he rest in peace.

[[spoiler:The real Dr. Caulder]]
* Cause: DeathByIrony - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: [[spoiler:A passing reference that he was in a plane crash hints at this in the first place, and his murderer--the clone that was running around--watched him die]] - 4
* Reaction: [[spoiler:His clone found "watching yourself die" [[CatchPhrase fascinating]]]] - 4
* Last Words: none, but no shown speaking role - 4
* Role: [[spoiler:creator and victim of the BigBad]] - 4
* When: before the start of the game, quite possibly before the meteors - 4
* Come back before: no, and [[spoiler:there barely any hint that the Caulder you fight is a clone]] - 4
* Average: 32/8 = 4. You got first place.

And finally, [[spoiler:Dr. Caulder himself, or rather, the clone]]:
* Cause: DeathByIrony (hey, I think I'll not try to escape the player who just turned my ScrappyLevel into a joke so that he toys with me and doesn't blow up the last of the lasers right away to destroy the level when he can easily do so any time he pleases, because [[spoiler:[[NotSoDifferent he must find it]]...[[CatchPhrase fascinating]]]]) - 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: LeftForDead - 1
* Reaction: none, really - 4
* Last Words: OhCrap - 4
* Role: BigBad in an AnyoneCanDie game - 4
* When: same arc, but a year passes after his death - 2.5
* Come back before: no - 4 [[spoiler:(no, being a clone who killed your own creator doesn't lower your score, Caulder)]]
* Average: 27.5/8 = 3.4375. Very unlikely, but could come back.

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[[spoiler:[[KnightInShiningArmor Bolvar Fordragon]] and [[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Saurfang jr.]]]] from WorldOfWarcraft

[[spoiler: Bolvar]]:
* Cause: Dropped a few barrels filled with a deadly disease (that destroys living beings and undead alike) on him. [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat No one survived that]]: 2
* Genre: For player Characters, [[DeathIsCheap Death may be cheap]], but when they make a cinematic showing you die, then you usually stay dead ([[TheUndead with or without prefix]]): 3
* Body: either the disease rotted his flesh away, or he got burned by the breath of the red dragons. Either way, The Body's gone: 4
* Reaction: ItsPersonal for King Wrynn, and causes a major War between the Alliance and the Horde: 2
* Characterization: [[spoiler:Former Boss of Stormwind]] and major Character in Wrath of the Lich King: 2
* When: Same year: 2
* Died and come back: nope: 4
* Average: 19/7 = 2.71. Will probably come back in one of the next patches (possibly
as a Boss in [[SupervillainLair Icecrown Citadel]])

[[spoiler: Saurfang jr.]]:
* Cause: Got his soul sucked out of him by the games trademark [[ArtifactOfDoom Artifact of Doom]]: 2
* Genre: See above: 3
* Body: See above: 4
* Reaction: [[ItsPersonal Its Personal]]. The Horde ain't to happy about his death.: 2
* Characterization: Recurring Character: 3
* When: Same year: 2
* Dead and back: Again, no: 4
* Average: 20/7= 2.85. A bit deader than the above, but still likely to be a future boss encounter.

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For kicks, I'll do some counting on Creator/{{Capcom}} FightingGame deaths....

Hyo Imawano, ''Project Justice (VideoGame/RivalSchools 2)''
* Cause: Body ravaged by being possesed by his dad's spirit. Considering that point in the story he's trying to undo his dad's influence on his views, this is DeathByIrony. 4
* Genre: Conflict here. This is the FightingGame genre, where usually DeathIsCheap (see also: [[StreetFighter Bison, M.; Gouken]]; [[{{Tekken}} Mishima, Kazuya]]). However, this is also a KilledOffFOrReal considering [[Creator/KanetoShiozawa Hyo's seiyuu]] died (this reason also killed off Zato-1 of ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'') and Rival Schools really hasn't had any major character deaths yet. Let's split the difference here - 2
* Body: Pretty much dies in Kyosuke's arms, but like his twin himself, the body has seemingly disappeared. Unless a future RS game shows a funeral, we'll split the difference again.
well. 3.5
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, as seen above. 4
* Body: ''Eventually'' found years later by [[spoiler: Liara]]. Still very much dead. 3.5
** I'd call that frozen; his helmet was intact, and the planet it landed on was well below the temperature needed to preserve the head inside.
* Reaction: HesDeadJim from Batsu.Got a trope named after it: WeWereYourTeam. 4
* Last Words: "Get the hell out of here, Joker!" 2
* Characterization: Main character. 1
* When: Start of the game count as same arc? 1
* Died and Came Back: Maybe once if you count that DisneyDeath at the end of [=ME1=].
3
* So 22/8 gives us 2.75. Pretty high score for a main character, and I was being light on some of them.

Let's do Shepard again, this time for ''really'' screwing up the suicide mission. WordOfGod is that you can't import a save where Shepard died into 3, so let's keep that in mind:
* Cause: Looks like a HeroicSacrifice to me. Joker probably would've kept on trying to hold off the Collectors and gotten killed either by them or the explosion that takes out the Collector Base, [[BringNewsBack no news would've been brought back]]. 3.
* Genre: [=ME2=] is reasonably far into AnyoneCanDie territory, so 4.
* Body: Depending on your choice in the endgame (destroying the Collector Base or handing it over to Cerberus), he either fell a huge distance and then got nuked, or just fell a huge distance. 3?
** nuked either way, the question is whether it's a giant bomb or just a giant radiation pulse intended to kill everything but leave their tech.
* Reaction: Get the feeling this is a 3. Judging by the ending, Joker is pretty crushed.
* Last Words: FamousLastWords "Joker, you have to Kyosuke. 3
tell them!" Putting this as a 2.5.
* Characterization: He's Kyosuke's beloved twin brother, so LovedOne. 4
THE hero, pretty much. 1
* When he died: Since ''Project Justice'' is When: A bit more than two years ago, but at the most recent game in the series so far and was released close to a decade ago - 4
very beginning of [=ME2=]. Putting this as 1.5.
* Died and Came Back: Once, so 3. They do make a big deal out of how people do NOT come back: The series' back from the dead, and how reviving Shepard is an insane exception, however.
* 2.625. Could come back again, but it'd cheapen his/her
first and only major death resurrection. WordOfGod denies it, so far, and no third let's assume [[EpilepticTrees s/he does with so many modifications to his/her body this time that s/he owns all the Reapers bare-handed]].

One last run of Shepard, this time at the end of ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' if the destroy ending is taken:
* Cause: Shepard was sacrificing him/herself to to save the galaxy, making it a 3.
* Genre: This a
game yet to see if it happens.where entire races can be wiped out, guaranteeing a 4.
* Body found: Never found the body, Judging by Tali's reaction, so 2.
* Reaction: Montage.
4.
* Average: 3.4375. His hopes Last Words: Obi-Wan moment fits best here, so 3.
* Characterization: Protagonist. 1.
* When did they die: Same arc. 1.
* Died and came back: Once, thanks to the Illusive Man. 3
* 2.625. The developers have said that this is not the last we will hear
of coming back are as likely as Shepard, so it is possible that Galaxy's greatest hero will return from the dead.

Here's
a ''Rival Schools 3'' happening.

Charlie Nash, ''VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha 3''
fun one: Legion:
* Cause: According Sacrificing itself to Guile's A3 ending, holding back M. Bison long enough give its race sentience. 3
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, mixed with the knowledge that geth platforms can return
to allow explosives set up by Guile the main hub and Charlie cheat death. Heavier leaning to blow up Shadaloo's base. Mix the former. 3
* Body found: Non-applicable for geth.
* Reaction: [[HesDeadJim He's Dead, Shepard-Commander]]. 3
* Last Words: "I know, Tali. But thank you. Keelah se'lai." An excellent FinalSpeech. 3
* Characterization: Squadmate, but it's closer to RecurringCharacter than the likes
of NoOneCouldSurviveThat and HeroicSacrifice.Tali or Garrus. 2.5
* Genre: This is StreetFighter, so DeathIsCheap.When did they die: Same arc. 1
* Body: Never found, confirmed by Guile's SF IV intro. 3
* Reaction: ItsPersonal for Guile. 2
* Last Words: Telling Guile that he'll finish off Bison and to get out of the base. Something of a mix of "Run!" and FamousLastWords, so 2.5
* Characterization: His presence in the Alpha series is there to give impetus to Guile's story, so DeathByOriginStory. 4
* When He Died: 10+ years ago. 4
* Died and come came back: Twice prior his Alpha 3 appearance. Both times were declared CanonDisContinuity by WordOfGod, but they still happened. 2
As an individual, no.. which is what Legion was when it died/deactivated. Oddly, arguable as either 4 or 1. The game hints much more heavily at 4, though.
* Average: 2.625. Dead, and unlikely 714. The Geth did create the Geth VI to come back. As noted above, though, that hasn't stopped Capcom before.

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Beatrice from ''VisualNovel/UminekoWhenTheyCry''
replace Legion if it died in Omega-4 as well, so some rendition of Legion may indeed be coming back.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Mega Man'']]

Sigma in ''VideoGame/MegaManX1'' (SNES):
* Cause: Honestly? PuffOfLogic. Not sure it's listed, but You blow up his body, which is then in an exploding base, which then crashes into the fight had some similarity to redemption, so I'll give it - 3
ocean NoOneCouldSurviveThat. 2.
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, for those with characterization 3.
* Body: She disappeared in a PuffOfLogic; what do you think? NeverFoundTheBody - 3
NeverFoundTheBody. 3.
* Reaction: ItsPersonal - 2
"War is over...credits...Oh h* !l." 1
* Characterization: BigBad. 1.
* When did he die?: Same game, so..1?
* Revival Count: 4 (first game test, remember that his head pops off and gets grafted onto the giant robot for the first transformation.)
* Average: 2 + 3 + 3 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 4 = 15, 15/7 = 2.14, high for a villain that announces after the credits he lives, but fits.

Sigma in ''X8'' ([=PS2=]):
* Cause: Killed, body left beaten. 4
* Genre: KillEmAll... over Anyone can die, unless your name is X, Zero or Sigma. 1.
* Body: Deader than dead, doesn't even have the decency to explode. 4.
* Reaction: Keeping arms guns raised,
and over then told Sigma was being used and over again. Does that make this DeathIsCheap? I'll give it - 1.5
sacrificed 4.
* LastWords: A thank you to Battler for having fun with her during their Characterization: More of a regular, red herring big bad than the big bad. 2.
* When did he die?: Same
game. I'll call it 1?
* Revival Count: 1
* 4+1+4+4+1+2+1=17, 2.428. Back next episode. If there is
a FinalSpeech, I guess - next one.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Metroid'']]

For the hell of it, let's do Adam from Metroid: Other M
* Cause of Death: Sacrifice: 3
* Genre: Anyone can Die (save Ridley): 4
* Body Found?: No: 2
* Reaction: It's Personal? 2
* Last Words: Final Speech:
3
* Characterization: Archvillain for whom the main character is TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou. And he didn't - I'm calling loved one: 4
* When did they die: Same Arc:
1
* Died and came Come back?: I'm not counting computer Adam, so no: 4
23/8=2.875, so pretty dead.

And Now Ridley from the same game:
* Cause of death: Overkill: 4
* Genre: Anyone can Die: 4
* Body Found: At he morgue pretty much: 3
* Reaction: he's dead Jim: 3
* Last Words: If Ridley could talk, he would've said Oh Crap: 4
* Characterization: Arch-Villian: 1
* When did they die?: Same Arc: 1
* Died and Come back?: I lost count: 1
21/8=2.625, and yet he makes his grand, cloned return in Fusion

One more from the game, just for fun: Anthony:
* Cause of death: Jumping, pretty much: 1
* Genre: Anyone can die: 4
* Body Found: No: 2
* Reaction: It's personal?: 2
* Last Words: C'mon. I'll call it a 2
* Characterization: C list fodder: 3
* When did they die: Same Arc: 1
* Died and come
back: Once - No: 4
2.375. And yet, he comes back.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Myst'']]

A'Gaeris.
* Cause of Death: DeathByIrony. 4
* Genre: KilledOffForReal.
3
* Body Found: [[NeverFoundTheBody No body left to find]]. 3
* Reaction: [[HesDeadJim He's Dead, Gehn]]. 3
* Characterization: BigBad. 1
* When: 10+ Years ago. 4
* Died and Come Back: Never. 4
* Conclusion: 22/7 = 3.142857. Good riddance.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Persona'']]

[[HelloInsertNameHere The Main Character]] from ''VideoGame/Persona3''
* Cause: HeroicSacrifice: 3.
* Genre: KilledOffForReal in the initial release of the game, but ''FES'' and ''[=P3P=]'' muddy the waters considerably. 2.5, maybe?
* Body Found: "The Answer" makes this more or less a 4.
* Reaction: "The Answer" is ''all about'' the other characters' efforts at coping. 4.
* Characterization: 1.
*
Last arc - 2
Words: "Don't cry," or "It'll be okay." 3.
* 17.Time of Death: End of the game. The Persona games are loosely connected rather than sharing casts or storylines, so this is almost but not quite equivalent to a Series Finale. 3.
* Died and Come Back: Had a DisneyDeath during the final battle; we'll say 3.
* Average: 23.
5/8 = 2.1875 She's probably coming back 94. Might be back. [[spoiler:''VideoGame/Persona4'' mentions that Elizabeth has gone in an arc or two.
** [[spoiler: Beatrice was resurrected in Ep 6, ''but'' she was based
search of Battler's memories of her, a way to save him from the original Beatrice III/Yasu died filled with regret.]]

[[spoiler: Yasu]] at
burden of being the end of Great Seal, which gives some support to the series.
possibility.]]

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Planescape: Torment'']]

The Nameless One (non finale):
* Cause: RedemptionEqualsDeath through suicide - 3
* Body: NeverFoundTheBody due
Jumping onto a trap to jumping overboard into set it off and the sea - 2
like: 1
* Genre: Even for other people, in D&D, DeathIsCheep: 1
* Body Found: Most places you use it it counts as LeftForDead 1
* Reaction: [[spoiler: Battler]] jumped after so let's say a 2
The party member reactions don't really fall under anything, but they are mostly sighs of "here we go again": 1
* Last Words: I forget what his death quotes are, I '''think''' they are mostly that dieing still hurts: 1 (though not to sure here)
* Character: Protagonist 1
* When: Same Arc 1
* How many times: I've lost count 1
Score: 1: It doesn't even take him an hour!
Hey! Isn't this our first straight "1" guy?

Getting flayed:
* Cause: The Lady is overkill: 4
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie [[spoiler: since no one 1
* Body: We don't see it,
but Battler, Eva and Yasu survived the massacre]] - flayed bodies remain: 4
* LastWords: LastKiss, can that count as a FinalSpeech? In that case a Reaction: none in-game, but typical Sigil would be "Oh look, another sod got himself flayed!" 3
* Characterization: As confusing as it is [[spoiler: Yasu]] counts as a protagonist - Last words: None
* Character:
1
* Died and came back While the series is built on a GroundhogDayLoop, this scene shows the real Rokkenjima - 4
* When: The body wasn't found before the DistantFinale - 4
1
* 23/8=2,875, probably dead but there's still a possibility that the WMG is true and that [[spoiler: Yasu survived and changed his/her name to Ikuko Hachijō]]
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[=GLaDOS=] from VideoGame/{{Portal}}
Alreddy: 1
15/7 2.1 Suprisingly low for flaying.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Portal'']]

[=GLaDOS=]:



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[[spoiler:Lucca]] from ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'', who was apparently [[spoiler:killed by Lynx]] in ''VideoGame/ChronoCross''...

* '''Cause''': SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome, and pretty gratuitous as well, going from being able to [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu punching out Cthulhu]] to getting killed by some panther furry. I'd say that counts as a Bridge Drop. 4.
* '''Genre''': Well, judging from the first game, DeathIsCheap, but ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' tries to establish an AnyoneCanDie sort of mood, so we'll just average 4 and 1 and say 2.5.
* '''Body''': Never Found. 3.
* '''Reaction''': Definitely It's Personal for Kid. 2.
* '''Last Words''': We never actually hear them, but she does leave a parting letter, so... Final Speech. 3.
* '''Characterization''': One of the three main protagonists of the last game, though it could also count as a loved one. This time, I'll lean toward Protagonist and say 1.
* '''When Did They Die?''': More than ten years before the start of ''VideoGame/ChronoCross''... 4. Uh oh.
* '''Came Back?''': Not yet... 4.
* '''Total''': 23.5/8 = just under 3. That's pretty high, but it doesn't totally rule out a return for ''Chrono 3''... if they ever get around to making it.

* While we're at ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'', let's try [[spoiler:Crono's PlotlineDeath]] in the first game.
* '''Cause:''' HeroicSacrifice = 3
* '''Genre:''' ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' is very idealistic, so I'd say = 2.5
* '''Body:''' Vaporized = Never found? = 3
* '''Reaction:''' Average reaction from the other characters. I'd say = 2.5
* '''Last Words:''' None... [[spoiler: unsurprisingly, since he never speaks]] = N/A
* '''Characterization:''' [[spoiler:Protagonist = 1]].
* '''When:''' Same game = same arc I'd say. = 1
* '''Came back?:''' Never really died before. = N/A
* Result: 2.17 = Probably Back Quite Soon. [[spoiler:And if you bother to resurrect him, he indeed comes back fairly quickly.]]

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Let's try a couple of ''Battalion Wars'' examples:

In the first game, we have [[spoiler:Tsar Gorgi]]:
* Cause of death: Bridge Drop ([[spoiler:he was thrown off a bridge by Ubel right after a battle that his forces had won]]) - 4
* Genre: first non-mook casualty so hard to say without information from the second game - 2
* Body Found: right there, [[spoiler:as he was talking with his son]] - 4
* Reaction: ItsPersonal - 2
* Last Words: FinalSpeech - 3
* Characterization: [[spoiler: Regular - 2]]
* When: same arc, becomes same year before it is bothered with again - 1.5
* "Died" and come back: nope - 4
* Average: [[spoiler: 22.5/8 = 2.81. Of course, the sequel ups the score by 1 for Genre (KilledOffForReal; he's even a ghost there), 2 for Reaction (Montage, being buried at the Gorgisburg Mausoleum), and 1.5 for When, totaling 27/8 = 3.37. He's not coming back.]]

And next up is the second game's death victim [[spoiler:A-Qira]]:
* Cause of death: Bridge Drop ([[spoiler:his drink was poisoned by Vlad]]) - 4
* Genre: thanks to [[spoiler:Tsar Gorgi]], KilledOffForReal - 3
* Body Found: LeftForDead - 1
* Reaction: none given, just doesn't appear in the ending - 2.5
* Characterization: Regular, although [[spoiler:[[ProudWarriorRaceGuy proud]]]] - 2.5
* Last Words: OhCrap ([[spoiler:"Poison! Treachery!"]]) - 4
* When: same arc, same year by the end of the game - 1.5
* "Died" and come back: nope - 4
* Average: 22.5/8 = 2.81. Assuming we don't see him pull a [[spoiler:Tsar Gorgi]] in the next game if it is made, there's still hope for our good [[spoiler:admiral]]. Though his last words reduce his chances.

[[spoiler:Countess Ingrid]] from the first game:
* Cause of death: Hard to call. The character was beyond salvation, so I guess it would be redemption - 3
* Genre: As stated before, KilledOffForReal - 3
* Body Found: LeftForDead - 1
* Reaction: None per se - 3
* Characterisation: Regular - 2
* Last Words: FamousLastWords ([[spoiler:"You have made a grave error in coming here, Empress!"]]) - 3
* When: Same year - 2
* "Died" and came back: No - 4
* Average: 21 points, or 2.625. Given the fact that [[spoiler:she's entombed with the Iron Legion, essentially]], it's not too farfetched to see this character coming back.
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Alright, now that ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'' been out for a while, it's time to fill the deadness algorithms for the killed of characters.
* First and foremost, we have [[spoiler: The Joker]] [[spoiler: him]]self: Spectacular [[AvertedTrope Aversion]] of [[spoiler: JokerImmunity]] or a DoubleSubversion of it?
* Cause of Death: DeathByIrony / [[spoiler: KarmicDeath]], 4.
* Audience Expectation: DisneyDeath most likely considering [[spoiler: Scarecrow and some others appeared to have survived their apparent deaths in Arkham Asylum, and there's an established method by which characters could come back from the dead; the Lazarus Pits.]] Although LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt is in full effect, so 1 is the best answer.
* BodyFound?: Found but not buried. [[spoiler: The Joker]] gets a 3 here.
* Reaction: Believe it or not, something close to a ReallyDeadMontage, since the cutscene following [[spoiler: his]] death puts a big emphasis on the reactions of [[spoiler: Joker's]] [[spoiler: {{mooks}}]] to [[spoiler: his]] death.
* Last Words: Difficult to say, though FamousLastWords fits best, 3.
* Characterization [[spoiler: The Big Bad]], 1.
* When did they die?: Difficult to say, though since Arkham City concludes its arc, same year would be the best bet. 2
* Died and Come Back: While [[spoiler: his]] ComicBook incarnation has died and come back countless times over the years, [[spoiler: the time Joker faked his own death in the Arkhamverse was to lure Batman into a false sense of security near the beginning of the game]], so a 3.
** Final Verdict: Ultimately [[spoiler: The Joker]] averages out to 2.625, so its quite possible that [[spoiler: Joker's]] body will find its way [[spoiler: Into a Lazarus Pit, [[WildMassGuessing or already has.]]]], though its completely conceivable that this is curtains for the [[spoiler: [[MonsterClown Killer Clown.]]]]

* Next up is [[spoiler: Ras Al Ghoul]]. Will [[spoiler: his]] body find its way to a [[spoiler: Lazarus Pit]] or not?
* Cause of Death: A failed attempt at TakingYouWithMe, the best bet is a 2 because of the failure.
* AudienceExpectation: [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]] has LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt in [[spoiler: his]] favor, though not as much as the character above. However,[[spoiler: he has]] the added bonus of [[spoiler: having an established mechanism for coming BackFromTheDead]], so its a 1.
* BodyFound: We see the body, but it quickly goes missing, so its a 2.
* Reaction: FauxDeath to some extent, not because [[spoiler: Batman]] doubts that [[spoiler: he's]] dead, but because of the aforementioned ability to [[spoiler: come BackFromTheDead using the Lazarus Pits.]] 1.
* LastWords: Technically an OhCrap, but [[spoiler: Ra's]] outlasts his "LastWords" by about 20 seconds, during which [[spoiler: he's]] completely fine physically and attempts a TakingYouWithMe. So a 3 here.
* Characterization: [[spoiler: The Other BigBad]], 1.
* When Did They Die: A 2 here for the same reasons as the above character.
* Died And Come Back?: Once on screen, countless times in backstory: 1.
* Final Verdict: 1.625. We haven't seen the last of [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]]!!! Though [[spoiler: he's]] probably actually dead for the time being.

* On a similar note, next up we have [[spoiler: Talia Al Ghul.]]
* Cause of Death?: Not exactly crystal clear, but matches [[spoiler: StuffedInTheFridge or DroppedABridgeOnHim]] the most, so its a 4.
* AudienceExpectation: Since [[spoiler: She]] lacks the [[spoiler: JokerImmunity]] of the two previous characters, its quite possible that [[spoiler: Talia]] might be dead for real in the eyes of the audience. 2 because of other characters apparently cheating death.
* Body Found?: Like [[spoiler: her father's]] body [[spoiler: Talia's]] disappears during the boss fight following [[spoiler: her]] apparent death, so 2.
* Reaction: ItsPersonal, 2.
* LastWords: Receives wound that kills [[spoiler: her]] [[KilledMidSentence mid sentence]], but lasts long enough to deliver some last words; 3.
* Characterization: Loved One, 4.
* When Did They Die?: 2 for the same reasons as the above characters.
* Died and Come Back?: Nope, 4.
* Final Verdict: 2.625, about as likely as [[spoiler: The Joker]] to come back from the dead.
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Here's a comparison to see whether [[spoiler:Luke]] or [[spoiler:Asch]] made it back in the ending of Tales of the Abyss.

[[spoiler:Asch]]
* Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice - 3
* Genre: KilledOffForReal - 3
* Body Found? Not by anyone else, but shown on screen after death - 4
* Reaction: HesDeadJim - 3
* Characterization: Regular, almost protagonist - 1.5
* When Did He Die?: Three years ago in-universe, otherwise inapplicable
* Died and came Back? No - 4
* Average: 3.08

[[spoiler:Luke]]
* Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice - 3
* Genre: KilledOffForReal - 3
* Body Found? No. - 3
* Reaction: Characters believe he will be back - 1
* Characterization. Protagonist. - 1
* When Did He Die?: Three years ago in-universe, otherwise inapplicable
* Died And Came back? No - 4
* Average: 2.5

The results favor [[spoiler:Luke]].

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After 15 years, ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil5'' subverts JokerImmunity and finally lets you fight and kill series BigBad [[spoiler: Albert Wesker]]. Will he stay dead?

to:

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[[spoiler:Lucca]] from ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'', who was apparently [[spoiler:killed by Lynx]] in ''VideoGame/ChronoCross''...

* '''Cause''': SuddenSequelDeathSyndrome, and pretty gratuitous as well, going from being able to [[DidYouJustPunchOutCthulhu punching out Cthulhu]] to getting killed by some panther furry. I'd say that counts as a Bridge Drop. 4.
* '''Genre''': Well, judging from the first game, DeathIsCheap, but ''VideoGame/ChronoCross'' tries to establish an AnyoneCanDie sort of mood, so we'll just average 4 and 1 and say 2.5.
* '''Body''': Never Found. 3.
* '''Reaction''': Definitely It's Personal for Kid. 2.
* '''Last Words''': We never actually hear them, but she does leave a parting letter, so... Final Speech. 3.
* '''Characterization''': One of the three main protagonists of the last game, though it could also count as a loved one. This time, I'll lean toward Protagonist and say 1.
* '''When Did They Die?''': More than ten years before the start of ''VideoGame/ChronoCross''... 4. Uh oh.
* '''Came Back?''': Not yet... 4.
* '''Total''': 23.5/8 = just under 3. That's pretty high, but it doesn't totally rule out a return for ''Chrono 3''... if they ever get around to making it.

* While we're at ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'', let's try [[spoiler:Crono's PlotlineDeath]] in the first game.
* '''Cause:''' HeroicSacrifice = 3
* '''Genre:''' ''VideoGame/ChronoTrigger'' is very idealistic, so I'd say = 2.5
* '''Body:''' Vaporized = Never found? = 3
* '''Reaction:''' Average reaction from the other characters. I'd say = 2.5
* '''Last Words:''' None... [[spoiler: unsurprisingly, since he never speaks]] = N/A
* '''Characterization:''' [[spoiler:Protagonist = 1]].
* '''When:''' Same game = same arc I'd say. = 1
* '''Came back?:''' Never really died before. = N/A
* Result: 2.17 = Probably Back Quite Soon. [[spoiler:And if you bother to resurrect him, he indeed comes back fairly quickly.]]

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Let's try a couple of ''Battalion Wars'' examples:

In the first game, we have [[spoiler:Tsar Gorgi]]:
* Cause of death: Bridge Drop ([[spoiler:he was thrown off a bridge by Ubel right after a battle that his forces had won]]) - 4
* Genre: first non-mook casualty so hard to say without information from the second game - 2
* Body Found: right there, [[spoiler:as he was talking with his son]] - 4
* Reaction: ItsPersonal - 2
* Last Words: FinalSpeech - 3
* Characterization: [[spoiler: Regular - 2]]
* When: same arc, becomes same year before it is bothered with again - 1.5
* "Died" and come back: nope - 4
* Average: [[spoiler: 22.5/8 = 2.81. Of course, the sequel ups the score by 1 for Genre (KilledOffForReal; he's even a ghost there), 2 for Reaction (Montage, being buried at the Gorgisburg Mausoleum), and 1.5 for When, totaling 27/8 = 3.37. He's not coming back.]]

And next up is the second game's death victim [[spoiler:A-Qira]]:
* Cause of death: Bridge Drop ([[spoiler:his drink was poisoned by Vlad]]) - 4
* Genre: thanks to [[spoiler:Tsar Gorgi]], KilledOffForReal - 3
* Body Found: LeftForDead - 1
* Reaction: none given, just doesn't appear in the ending - 2.5
* Characterization: Regular, although [[spoiler:[[ProudWarriorRaceGuy proud]]]] - 2.5
* Last Words: OhCrap ([[spoiler:"Poison! Treachery!"]]) - 4
* When: same arc, same year by the end of the game - 1.5
* "Died" and come back: nope - 4
* Average: 22.5/8 = 2.81. Assuming we don't see him pull a [[spoiler:Tsar Gorgi]] in the next game if it is made, there's still hope for our good [[spoiler:admiral]]. Though his last words reduce his chances.

[[spoiler:Countess Ingrid]] from the first game:
* Cause of death: Hard to call. The character was beyond salvation, so I guess it would be redemption - 3
* Genre: As stated before, KilledOffForReal - 3
* Body Found: LeftForDead - 1
* Reaction: None per se - 3
* Characterisation: Regular - 2
* Last Words: FamousLastWords ([[spoiler:"You have made a grave error in coming here, Empress!"]]) - 3
* When: Same year - 2
* "Died" and came back: No - 4
* Average: 21 points, or 2.625. Given the fact that [[spoiler:she's entombed with the Iron Legion, essentially]], it's not too farfetched to see this character coming back.
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Alright, now that ''VideoGame/BatmanArkhamCity'' been out for a while, it's time to fill the deadness algorithms for the killed of characters.
* First and foremost, we have [[spoiler: The Joker]] [[spoiler: him]]self: Spectacular [[AvertedTrope Aversion]] of [[spoiler: JokerImmunity]] or a DoubleSubversion of it?
* Cause of Death: DeathByIrony / [[spoiler: KarmicDeath]], 4.
* Audience Expectation: DisneyDeath most likely considering [[spoiler: Scarecrow and some others appeared to have survived their apparent deaths in Arkham Asylum, and there's an established method by which characters could come back from the dead; the Lazarus Pits.]] Although LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt is in full effect, so 1 is the best answer.
* BodyFound?: Found but not buried. [[spoiler: The Joker]] gets a 3 here.
* Reaction: Believe it or not, something close to a ReallyDeadMontage, since the cutscene following [[spoiler: his]] death puts a big emphasis on the reactions of [[spoiler: Joker's]] [[spoiler: {{mooks}}]] to [[spoiler: his]] death.
* Last Words: Difficult to say, though FamousLastWords fits best, 3.
* Characterization [[spoiler: The Big Bad]], 1.
* When did they die?: Difficult to say, though since Arkham City concludes its arc, same year would be the best bet. 2
* Died and Come Back: While [[spoiler: his]] ComicBook incarnation has died and come back countless times over the years, [[spoiler: the time Joker faked his own death in the Arkhamverse was to lure Batman into a false sense of security near the beginning of the game]], so a 3.
** Final Verdict: Ultimately [[spoiler: The Joker]] averages out to 2.625, so its quite possible that [[spoiler: Joker's]] body will find its way [[spoiler: Into a Lazarus Pit, [[WildMassGuessing or already has.]]]], though its completely conceivable that this is curtains for the [[spoiler: [[MonsterClown Killer Clown.]]]]

* Next up is [[spoiler: Ras Al Ghoul]]. Will [[spoiler: his]] body find its way to a [[spoiler: Lazarus Pit]] or not?
* Cause of Death: A failed attempt at TakingYouWithMe, the best bet is a 2 because of the failure.
* AudienceExpectation: [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]] has LikeYouWouldReallyDoIt in [[spoiler: his]] favor, though not as much as the character above. However,[[spoiler: he has]] the added bonus of [[spoiler: having an established mechanism for coming BackFromTheDead]], so its a 1.
* BodyFound: We see the body, but it quickly goes missing, so its a 2.
* Reaction: FauxDeath to some extent, not because [[spoiler: Batman]] doubts that [[spoiler: he's]] dead, but because of the aforementioned ability to [[spoiler: come BackFromTheDead using the Lazarus Pits.]] 1.
* LastWords: Technically an OhCrap, but [[spoiler: Ra's]] outlasts his "LastWords" by about 20 seconds, during which [[spoiler: he's]] completely fine physically and attempts a TakingYouWithMe. So a 3 here.
* Characterization: [[spoiler: The Other BigBad]], 1.
* When Did They Die: A 2 here for the same reasons as the above character.
* Died And Come Back?: Once on screen, countless times in backstory: 1.
* Final Verdict: 1.625. We haven't seen the last of [[spoiler: Ra's Al Ghul]]!!! Though [[spoiler: he's]] probably actually dead for the time being.

* On a similar note, next up we have [[spoiler: Talia Al Ghul.]]
* Cause of Death?: Not exactly crystal clear, but matches [[spoiler: StuffedInTheFridge or DroppedABridgeOnHim]] the most, so its a 4.
* AudienceExpectation: Since [[spoiler: She]] lacks the [[spoiler: JokerImmunity]] of the two previous characters, its quite possible that [[spoiler: Talia]] might be dead for real in the eyes of the audience. 2 because of other characters apparently cheating death.
* Body Found?: Like [[spoiler: her father's]] body [[spoiler: Talia's]] disappears during the boss fight following [[spoiler: her]] apparent death, so 2.
* Reaction: ItsPersonal, 2.
* LastWords: Receives wound that kills [[spoiler: her]] [[KilledMidSentence mid sentence]], but lasts long enough to deliver some last words; 3.
* Characterization: Loved One, 4.
* When Did They Die?: 2 for the same reasons as the above characters.
* Died and Come Back?: Nope, 4.
* Final Verdict: 2.625, about as likely as [[spoiler: The Joker]] to come back from the dead.
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Here's a comparison to see whether [[spoiler:Luke]] or [[spoiler:Asch]] made it back in the ending of Tales of the Abyss.

[[spoiler:Asch]]
* Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice - 3
* Genre: KilledOffForReal - 3
* Body Found? Not by anyone else, but shown on screen after death - 4
* Reaction: HesDeadJim - 3
* Characterization: Regular, almost protagonist - 1.5
* When Did He Die?: Three years ago in-universe, otherwise inapplicable
* Died and came Back? No - 4
* Average: 3.08

[[spoiler:Luke]]
* Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice - 3
* Genre: KilledOffForReal - 3
* Body Found? No. - 3
* Reaction: Characters believe he will be back - 1
* Characterization. Protagonist. - 1
* When Did He Die?: Three years ago in-universe, otherwise inapplicable
* Died And Came back? No - 4
* Average: 2.5

The results favor [[spoiler:Luke]].

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[[folder:''Resident Evil'']]

After 15 years, ''VideoGame/ResidentEvil5'' subverts JokerImmunity and finally lets you fight and kill series BigBad [[spoiler: Albert Wesker]]. Wesker. Will he stay dead?
dead?:



Alternate result: once you take into account that [[spoiler: Wesker]] was assumed to ''already'' be dead by the main character after a plot-relevant encounter inbetween games, the average comes out slightly differently: (2 + 2.5 + 3 + 1 + 2)/5 = '''2.1''' - Not much difference though, the only question is ''how'' long he'll actually be out of commision.

Steve

to:

Alternate result: once you take into account that [[spoiler: Wesker]] Wesker was assumed to ''already'' be dead by the main character after a plot-relevant encounter inbetween games, the average comes out slightly differently: (2 + 2.5 + 3 + 1 + 2)/5 = '''2.1''' - Not much difference though, the only question is ''how'' long he'll actually be out of commision.

Steve
Steve:



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VideoGame/MegaManX:

Sigma, ''VideoGame/MegaManX1'' (SNES)
* Cause: You blow up his body, which is then in an exploding base, which then crashes into the ocean NoOneCouldSurviveThat. 2.
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, for those with characterization 3.
* Body: NeverFoundTheBody. 3.
* Reaction: "War is over...credits...Oh h* !l." 1
* Characterization: BigBad. 1.
* When did he die?: Same game, so..1?
* Revival Count: 4 (first game test, remember that his head pops off and gets grafted onto the giant robot for the first transformation.)
* Average: 2 + 3 + 3 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 4 = 15, 15/7 = 2.14, high for a villain that announces after the credits he lives, but fits.

Sigma, ''X8'' ([=PS2=])
* Cause: Killed, body left beaten. 4
* Genre: Anyone can die, unless your name is X, Zero or Sigma. 1.
* Body: Deader than dead, doesn't even have the decency to explode. 4.
* Reaction: Keeping arms guns raised, and then told Sigma was being used and sacrificed 4.
* Characterization: More of a regular, red herring big bad than the big bad. 2.
* When did he die?: Same game. 1?
* Revival Count: 1
* 4+1+4+4+1+2+1=17, 2.428. Back next episode. If there is a next one.

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VideoGame/{{Myst}}

A'Gaeris.
* Cause of Death: DeathByIrony. 4
* Genre: KilledOffForReal. 3
* Body Found: [[NeverFoundTheBody No body left to find]]. 3
* Reaction: [[HesDeadJim He's Dead, Gehn]]. 3
* Characterization: BigBad. 1
* When: 10+ Years ago. 4
* Died and Come Back: Never. 4
* Conclusion: 22/7 = 3.142857. Good riddance.

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Just for kicks, Wild Dog from ''Time Crisis''.
* Cause Of Death: Blows himself up in a massive explosion at the end of each game. In the latest game, ''Time Crisis 4'', he had a ton of metal debris dropped on his head before blowing himself up. NoOneCouldSurviveThat. '''2'''
* Genre: KilledOffForReal for all the series' other characters. However, for Wild Dog himself, DeathIsCheap. Oh so very much. '''1'''
* Body Found?: The heroes never bother to look. After all, the guy just exploded. NeverFoundTheBody. '''3'''
* Reaction: None (it's an arcade game, not Shakespeare). No score.
* Characterization: Although nominally TheDragon, he's the series' only recurring character and has sort of become the series' mascot, so I'll go ahead and list him as the Arch-Villain. '''1'''
* When Did They Die?: The last game, and based on his rate of aging there seems to be a 5-10 year gap between each game, so I'll go with that. '''4'''.
* Died and Came Back?: Yes, to put it mildly. '''1'''.
* Average = '''2'''. Honestly, this should be lower, but still it's no surprise Wild Dog will just keep coming back for more. Interestingly, he's visibly aging with each game, so I suppose eventually Father Time will do what countless bullets to the face and several massive explosions have failed to do so far.

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''Starcraft'':
[[spoiler:Fenix's second death]]:

to:

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VideoGame/MegaManX:

Sigma, ''VideoGame/MegaManX1'' (SNES)
[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Rival Schools'']]

Hyo Imawano in ''Project Justice'':
* Cause: You blow up Body ravaged by being possesed by his body, which is then in an exploding base, which then crashes into the ocean NoOneCouldSurviveThat. 2.
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, for those with characterization 3.
* Body: NeverFoundTheBody. 3.
* Reaction: "War is over...credits...Oh h* !l." 1
* Characterization: BigBad. 1.
* When did he die?: Same game, so..1?
* Revival Count: 4 (first game test, remember
dad's spirit. Considering that point in the story he's trying to undo his head pops off and gets grafted onto the giant robot for the first transformation.)
* Average: 2 + 3 + 3 + 1 + 1 + 1 + 4 = 15, 15/7 = 2.14, high for a villain that announces after the credits he lives, but fits.

Sigma, ''X8'' ([=PS2=])
* Cause: Killed, body left beaten.
dad's influence on his views, this is DeathByIrony. 4
* Genre: Anyone can die, unless your name Conflict here. This is X, Zero or Sigma. 1.
the FightingGame genre, where usually DeathIsCheap (see also: [[StreetFighter Bison, M.; Gouken]]; [[{{Tekken}} Mishima, Kazuya]]). However, this is also a KilledOffFOrReal considering [[Creator/KanetoShiozawa Hyo's seiyuu]] died (this reason also killed off Zato-1 of ''VideoGame/GuiltyGear'') and Rival Schools really hasn't had any major character deaths yet. Let's split the difference here - 2
* Body: Deader than dead, doesn't even have Pretty much dies in Kyosuke's arms, but like his twin himself, the decency body has seemingly disappeared. Unless a future RS game shows a funeral, we'll split the difference again. 3.5
* Reaction: HesDeadJim from Batsu. 3
* Last Words: FamousLastWords
to explode.Kyosuke. 3
* Characterization: He's Kyosuke's beloved twin brother, so LovedOne. 4
* When he died: Since ''Project Justice'' is the most recent game in the series so far and was released close to a decade ago - 4
* Died and come back: The series' first and only major death so far, and no third game yet to see if it happens.
4.
* Reaction: Keeping arms guns raised, and then told Sigma was being used and sacrificed 4.
* Characterization: More
Average: 3.4375. His hopes of coming back are as likely as a regular, red herring big bad than the big bad. 2.
* When did he die?: Same game. 1?
* Revival Count: 1
* 4+1+4+4+1+2+1=17, 2.428. Back next episode. If there is a next one.

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VideoGame/{{Myst}}

A'Gaeris.
''Rival Schools 3'' happening.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''SaintsRow'']]

Lin, in ''Saints Row''
* Cause of Death: DeathByIrony. 4
Can be seen as [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat No-one could survive being drowned in the trunk of a car.]] (2)
* Genre: KilledOffForReal (3), it happened to her and Carlos, as far as the Saints go.
* Body Found?: She's been LeftForDead (1)
* Reaction: ItsPersonal, as far as it makes Donnie hate the Rollerz(2)
* Last words: "Run, you fools!". (2)
* Characterisation: Protagonist (1)
* When?: 5 or 10 years ago by now (3)
* Come back already?: Nope. (4)
* Avg: 18/8: 2.25. She may have survived.

Shogo Akuji, in ''Saints Row 2''
* Cause of Death:[[NoOneCouldSurviveThat No-one could survive a Texas Funeral]] (2)
* Genre: KilledOffForReal (3), it happened to Lin and Carlos!
* Body Found?: Although on a literal level he has been buried, he is LeftForDead (1)
* Reaction: None, really other than '[[HesDeadJim I think Akuji's dead by now.]]'(3)
* Last words: Not really words, but there is a 'oh shit' look on his face as he realises he's about to be buried alive, and he spends most of the cutscene begging for his life. OhCrap. (4)
* Characterisation: CListFodder (3) (at my count there's 10 antagonists, and Dane Vogel would be the BigBad.)
* When?: There's been two games and several years since. (3)
* Come back already?: Nope. (4)
* Average: 23/8: 2.875. He could be back, but don't count on it.

Aisha, in ''Saints Row 2''
* Cause of Death: Pretty much StuffedInTheFridge. '''4'''
* Genre: KilledOffForReal. 3
'''3'''
* Body Found: [[NeverFoundTheBody No body left to find]]. 3
Found?: DeadAndBuried. '''4'''
* Reaction: [[HesDeadJim He's Dead, Gehn]]. 3
* Characterization: BigBad. 1
* When: 10+ Years ago. 4
* Died and Come Back: Never. 4
* Conclusion: 22/7 = 3.142857. Good riddance.

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Just for kicks, Wild Dog from ''Time Crisis''.
* Cause Of Death: Blows himself up in a massive explosion at the end of each game. In the latest game, ''Time Crisis 4'', he had a ton of metal debris dropped on his head before blowing himself up. NoOneCouldSurviveThat.
ItsPersonal. '''2'''
* Last words: KilledMidSentence. '''4'''
* Characterisation: Johnny Gat's girlfriend, so a Loved One. '''4'''
* When?: A couple years back now. '''3'''
* Come back already?: Once, through FakingTheDead. '''3'''
* Average: 27/8=3,375. She's dead.

Johnny Gat, in ''Saints Row: The Third''
* Cause of Death: Shot and stuck on a crashing plane, NoOneCouldSurviveThat. '''2'''
* Genre: KilledOffForReal Lighthearted as the series is, death tends to stick, so KilledOffForReal. '''3'''
* Body Found?: Difficult one, as while a funeral is held
for all him, no one specifies whether they ever actually found his body for burial. It's either DeadAndBuried or NeverFoundTheBody, so let's split the difference and say '''3'''.
* Reaction: ItsPersonal through and through. '''2'''
* Last words: KilledMidSentence, not good. '''4'''
* Characterisation: Technically a regular, but also
the series' other characters. However, for Wild Dog himself, DeathIsCheap. Oh most popular character, so very much.he's a '''1'''.
* When?: Same arc.
'''1'''
* Come back already?: Been through several near-death situations, but no actual "death". '''4'''
* Average: 20/8=2,5. Pretty good odds. [[spoiler:Indeed, the sequel confirnes he survived]].

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Star Wars: The Old Republic'']]

Revan:
* Cause of Death: Defeat in battle. 2.
* Audience Expectation: Killed Off for Real seems to be the norm for SW characters. 3.
* Body Found?: The heroes never bother to look. After all, the guy just exploded. NeverFoundTheBody. '''3'''
Found: Nope, vanished in a puff of light. 2.
* Reaction: None (it's an arcade game, not Shakespeare). No score.
Generally assumed to be dead. 3.
* Last Words: Echoes Malak's dying words. 3.
* Characterization: Although nominally TheDragon, he's A former protagonist and one of the series' only recurring character and has sort of become the series' mascot, so I'll go ahead and list him as the Arch-Villain. '''1'''
most popular SW EU characters. 1.
* When Did They Die?: The last game, and based on his rate of aging there seems did he die?: Not quite sure how to be a 5-10 year gap between each game, so I'll go with that. '''4'''.
sort this. Let's say 2.
* Died and Came Back?: Yes, to put it mildly. '''1'''.
* Average = '''2'''. Honestly, this should be lower, but still it's no surprise Wild Dog will just keep coming back for more. Interestingly, he's visibly aging with each game, so I suppose eventually Father Time will do what countless bullets to
come back?: Twice. 2.
Average: 2.25. Even if
the face and several massive explosions have failed SWTOR people don't already plan to do so far.

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''Starcraft'':
[[spoiler:Fenix's
bring him back, someone else will.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Starcraft'']]

Fenix's
second death]]:death:



[[spoiler:Edmund Duke.]]

to:

[[spoiler:Edmund Duke.]]Edmund Duke:



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The one important character to die) of RaidouKuzunohaVsTheSoullessArmy. (Note: I wasn't sure which genre the game falls into. If someone can recalculate this with genre included, it would be appreciated.)
* Cause: NoOneCouldSurviveThat and HeroicSacrifice by satellite blowing up. That's a 5.
* Genre: (I don't know, needs calculation)
* Body: Not sure where to put this one, see cause of death.
* Reaction: Felt like an ItsPersonal to me. So 2.
* Characterization: I would call him a Regular. 2.
* When: Towards the end, I'd call that... same arc? 1?
* Died and Came Back: Nope, so 4.
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Kaidan/Ashley on Virmire, in ''Franchise/MassEffect''
* Cause: HeroicSacrifice by way of a multi-kiloton nuke, 3
* Genre: The whole Virmire incident seems to say that AnyoneCanDie, so a 4
* Body: Never Found, 3
* Reaction: Between montage and He's dead, 3.5
* Characterization: The border between Mauve shirt and Regular, so I'll give 'em a 2.5
* When? By Mass Effect 2 it'll be into "Same Year" territory. 2
* Died and come back? Nope. 4, that's not good!
* I got a straight up 3, for back next season. Trumped by WordOfGod, which says that they're [[KilledOffForReal staying dead]].

For that matter, Saren ([[spoiler:The first time]])
* Cause: Redemption - 3
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie - 4
* Body: 1.5 - would have been LeftForDead, but one of your team members shoots him again to make sure.

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The one important character to die) of RaidouKuzunohaVsTheSoullessArmy. (Note: I wasn't sure which genre the game falls into. If someone can recalculate this with genre included, it would be appreciated.)
[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Street Fighter'']]

Charlie Nash in ''VideoGame/StreetFighterAlpha 3'':
* Cause: According to Guile's A3 ending, holding back M. Bison long enough to allow explosives set up by Guile and Charlie to blow up Shadaloo's base. Mix of NoOneCouldSurviveThat and HeroicSacrifice by satellite blowing up. That's a 5.
HeroicSacrifice. 2.5
* Genre: (I don't know, needs calculation)
This is StreetFighter, so DeathIsCheap. 1
* Body: Not sure where to put this one, see cause of death.
Never found, confirmed by Guile's SF IV intro. 3
* Reaction: Felt like an ItsPersonal for Guile. 2
* Last Words: Telling Guile that he'll finish off Bison and
to me. So 2.
get out of the base. Something of a mix of "Run!" and FamousLastWords, so 2.5
* Characterization: I would call His presence in the Alpha series is there to give impetus to Guile's story, so DeathByOriginStory. 4
* When He Died: 10+ years ago. 4
* Died and come back: Twice prior his Alpha 3 appearance. Both times were declared CanonDisContinuity by WordOfGod, but they still happened. 2
* Average: 2.625. Dead, and unlikely to come back. As noted above, though, that hasn't stopped Capcom before.

Seth in ''Super Street Fighter IV'', using the events of Juri's ending:
* Cause of Death: Hm... Technically he was simply killed in battle, but it's kind of DeathByIrony that he failed to stop his traitorous henchwoman before she killed him. Let's say... '''2.5'''.
* Audience Expectation: For Street Fighter final bosses, DeathIsCheap. '''1'''.
* Body Found: He [[HesDeadJim lies there twitching onscreen]] with [[ChunkySalsaRule his crucial Tandem Engine implant smashed to bits]] (the pothole is justified given how vital it is to him). '''3.5'''.
* Reaction: 'Goodnight sweet prince. Rust in peace.' That's a BondOneLiner, and that's a '''4'''.
* Last Words: Gives a FinalSpeech to Juri about how he knew she was going to betray
him (that case [[FridgeLogic why didn't he just kill her first?]]). '''3'''.
* Characterisation: Technically the {{Archvillain}} for ''SSFIV'', but in terms of the whole series he's more CListFodder. '''3'''.
* When Did They Die: The version we're using came out in 2010 so that's, uh, '''2.5''' let's say.
* Died And Come Back: Nope, first time. '''4'''.
Let's see... 23.5/8 equals... '''2.94'''. Chances have it, Seth is staying dead. Bonus points should probably be added on the grounds that the fanbase disliked him as
a Regular.whole (seriously, we need some sort of constant that can be added to account for that).
[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Suikoden'']]

Let's take a look at [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Luca Blight]], arguably the greatest RPG villain ever.
* Cause: Bombarded with arrows, attacked in three consecutive melee battles, bombarded with arrows ''again'', and finally defeated in one-on-one with TheHero. NoOneCouldSurviveThat=2.
* Genre: Well, it's VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}, so AnyoneCanDie. 4.
* Body: Well, his body was pretty clearly found, and was riddled with arrows to boot, but was never actually seen being disposed of in any way, so...3.5.
* Reaction: HesDeadJim. 3.
* Last Words: [[FamousLastWords "I am sublime! I am the true face of evil!"]] 3.
* Characterization: Archvillain. 1.
* When: Well, seeing as VideoGame/{{Suikoden III}} takes place 15 years later...let's just say 4, all right?
* Died Before: No, so 4.
* 24.5/8=3.0625. Pretty sure he's dead, but then, who knows what Suiko 6 may hold?

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Super Mario Bros'']]

Fawful in ''Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story'':
* Cause of Death: Villainous Sacrifice, if we have that - he blew himself up in a last-ditch attempt to kill the Mario Bros. '''3.'''
* Audience Expectation: Although Mario baddies don't often stay down (just ask Bowser), the [=RPGs=] tend to get rid of theirs at the end of each game. '''3.'''
* Body Found: When he explodes you see the globs of darkness that was all his reduced body consisted of by that stage. Probably comes under ChunkySalsaRule. '''4.'''
* Reaction: Celebrations that he's gone, so that's HesDeadJim. '''3.'''
* Last Words: FinalSpeech. '''3'''.
* Characterisation: The recurring villain of the Mario & Luigi series. So a cross between 3 and 1 is... '''2.'''
* When did they die?: Closer to 2 than it is to 3. '''2.'''
* Died and come back?: Fawful has been shown to survive implausible circumstances that should lead to his death before (at the ending of ''Superstar Saga''), but there's a difference between a vague shot of him falling out of Bowser's flying Castle (and remember, he has flying headgear) and actually exploding into little bits. So if we go off time alone then it's '''4.'''

24/8='''3'''. So chances are he's gone for good, but there's ''just'' enough leeway for Alphadream to bring back probably their most popular character in the future. Remember, he may have been blown to bits but Bowser spat all those bits out in the air, so no-one knows what happened after that.

Let's pull out all the stops here. How about the King of the Koopas himself?:
* '''Cause of death''': Mario defeats him every time.
2.
* When: Towards '''Audience expectation''': This is ''[[JokerImmunity Bowser]]'' we're talking about. 1.
* '''Body found''': Not usually. 2.5.
* '''Reaction''': He kidnapped
the end, I'd call that... same arc? 1?
princess. Of course ItsPersonal for Mario. 2.
* Died '''Last words''': Usually, nobody talks in Mario games. N/A.
* '''Characterization''': ''The'' archvillain. 1.
* '''When did they die?''': He is defeated in every game. 1.
* '''"Died"
and Came Back: Nope, so 4.
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Kaidan/Ashley on Virmire,
come back?''': Oh, hell yeah. 1.
* '''Death value''': 10.5/7 = 1.5. We have a new record.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Tales of the Abyss'']]

Here's a comparison to see whether Luke or Asch made it back
in ''Franchise/MassEffect''
the ending.

Asch:
* Cause: Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice by way of a multi-kiloton nuke, 3
* Genre: The whole Virmire incident seems to say that AnyoneCanDie, so a 4
* Body: Never Found, 3
* Reaction: Between montage and He's dead, 3.5
* Characterization: The border between Mauve shirt and Regular, so I'll give 'em a 2.5
* When? By Mass Effect 2 it'll be into "Same Year" territory. 2
* Died and come back? Nope. 4, that's not good!
* I got a straight up 3, for back next season. Trumped by WordOfGod, which says that they're [[KilledOffForReal staying dead]].

For that matter, Saren ([[spoiler:The first time]])
* Cause: Redemption
- 3
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie KilledOffForReal - 4
3
* Body: 1.5 - would have been LeftForDead, Body Found? Not by anyone else, but one of your team members shoots him again to make sure.shown on screen after death - 4



* Last words: FinalSpeech - 3
* Characterization: Archvillan initially (except he actually isn't) - 1.5
* When: Same arc - 1
* Died and come back: No - 4
* Overall: 3. [[spoiler:He comes back immediately after.]]
** [[spoiler: Well, not so much ''him'' as the implants that Sovereign gave him. By that point, Saren's either [[DeaderThanDead already gone]] or in an AndIMustScream situation.]]

And, just for fun since [[ItWasHisSled we know]] [[BackFromTheDead the outcome]], the first time Commander Shepard dies at the beginning of [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 [=ME2=]]].
* Cause: Do they ''make'' bridges big enough to drop on entire ships? That said, Shepard died trying to save Joker, so maybe we could count this as a HeroicSacrifice, as well. 3.5
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, as seen above. 4
* Body: ''Eventually'' found years later by [[spoiler: Liara]]. Still very much dead. 3.5
** I'd call that frozen; his helmet was intact, and the planet it landed on was well below the temperature needed to preserve the head inside.
* Reaction: Got a trope named after it: WeWereYourTeam. 4
* Last Words: "Get the hell out of here, Joker!" 2
* Characterization: Main character. 1
* When: Start of the game count as same arc? 1
* Died and Came Back: Maybe once if you count that DisneyDeath at the end of [=ME1=]. 3
* So 22/8 gives us 2.75. Pretty high score for a main character, and I was being light on some of them.

Let's do Shepard again, this time for ''really'' screwing up the suicide mission. WordOfGod is that you can't import a save where Shepard died into 3, so let's keep that in mind.
* Cause: Looks like a HeroicSacrifice to me. Joker probably would've kept on trying to hold off the Collectors and gotten killed either by them or the explosion that takes out the Collector Base, [[BringNewsBack no news would've been brought back]]. 3.
* Genre: [=ME2=] is reasonably far into AnyoneCanDie territory, so 4.
* Body: Depending on your choice in the endgame (destroying the Collector Base or handing it over to Cerberus), he either fell a huge distance and then got nuked, or just fell a huge distance. 3?
** nuked either way, the question is whether it's a giant bomb or just a giant radiation pulse intended to kill everything but leave their tech.
* Reaction: Get the feeling this is a 3. Judging by the ending, Joker is pretty crushed.
* Last Words: "Joker, you have to tell them!" Putting this as a 2.5.
* Characterization: THE hero, pretty much. 1
* When: A bit more than two years ago, but at the very beginning of [=ME2=]. Putting this as 1.5.
* Died and Came Back: Once, so 3. They do make a big deal out of how people do NOT come back from the dead, and how reviving Shepard is an insane exception, however.
* 2.625. Could come back again, but it'd cheapen his/her first resurrection. WordOfGod denies it, so let's assume [[EpilepticTrees s/he does with so many modifications to his/her body this time that s/he owns all the Reapers bare-handed]].

One last run of Shepard, this time at the end of ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' if the destroy ending is taken.
* Cause: Shepard was sacrificing him/herself to to save the galaxy, making it a 3.
* Genre: This a a game where entire races can be wiped out, guaranteeing a 4.
* Body found: Never found the body, Judging by Tali's reaction, so 2.
* Reaction: Montage. 4.
* Last Words: Obi-Wan moment fits best here, so 3.
* Characterization: Protagonist. 1.
* When did they die: Same arc. 1.
* Died and came back: Once, thanks to the Illusive Man. 3
* 2.625. The developers have said that this is not the last we will hear of Shepard, so it is possible that Galaxy's greatest hero will return from the dead.

Here's a fun one: Legion.
* Cause: Sacrificing itself to give its race sentience. 3
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, mixed with the knowledge that geth platforms can return to the main hub and cheat death. Heavier leaning to the former. 3
* Body found: Non-applicable for geth.
* Reaction: [[HesDeadJim He's Dead, Shepard-Commander]]. 3
* Last Words: "I know, Tali. But thank you. Keelah se'lai." An excellent FinalSpeech. 3
* Characterization: Squadmate, but it's closer to RecurringCharacter than the likes of Tali or Garrus. 2.5
* When did they die: Same arc. 1
* Died and came back: As an individual, no.. which is what Legion was when it died/deactivated. Oddly, arguable as either 4 or 1. The game hints much more heavily at 4, though.
* Average: 2.714. The Geth did create the Geth VI to replace Legion if it died in Omega-4 as well, so some rendition of Legion may indeed be coming back.
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Sgt. Johnson's death from the very end of the ''Halo'' Trilogy.
* Cause of Death: He makes it to the very end of the trilogy, only to be killed off completely out of left field by Guilty Spark to set up the final battle. Sounds a lot like they DroppedABridgeOnHim, but he also uses his last shot to save Master Chief from Spark, so it might count as a HeroicSacrifice instead. I'll give him a '''3.5'''.
* Genre: Nominally KilledOffForReal, although by the end pretty much ''everyone'' is dead except for Chief, Cortana, and Arbiter, so might count as AnyoneCanDie also. Again, I'll split the difference and give it a '''3.5'''.
* Body Found?: Died in Master Chief's arms. Chief never bothered to take a pulse, but I'll assume he's not an idiot and had some way of knowing Johnson had expired and not simply passed out. And then the Halo he died on blew up, although see below... So, DeaderThanDead. '''4'''.
* Reaction: [[HesDeadJim He's Dead, Jim]]. '''3'''.
* Characterization: Started out as a RedShirt in ''Halo'', but was made a series Regular in ''Halo 2''. '''2'''.
* When did they die?: Doesn't really count, since the series ends after his death. No score.
* Died and came back?: There was that little matter of being on a giant Ringworld just as it gets blown up in a massive explosion, yet coming back alive and well for the sequel. So a definite yes, he's done it before. '''3'''.
* Average = '''3.17'''. Rest in Peace, Sarge. "You were one hard-core son of a bitch".

Cortana:
* Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice / NoOneCouldSurviveThat. Shields the Master Chief from a nuke. 2.5
* Genre: KillEmAll. Earth's colonies burn, and Earth's own population is reduced to 200 million. Capable, sympathetic people like Sgt. Johnson, Capt. Keyes, and his daughter, Lt. Commander Keyes are killed. Reach is a game in which all of your friends are killed and then you sacrifice yourself. Only Sgt. Johnson has been brought back from apparent death. 4
* Body Found?: NeverFoundTheBody. Cortana herself told John she would not survive the explosion, though. 2.5
* Reaction: He's Dead, Jim. Lasky consoles the Chief on his loss. 3
* Last Words: ObiWanMoment. Cortana uses the last of her strength to say goodbye. 3
* Characterization: Protagonist/Regular. Easily the second-most important character. 1.5
* When Did They Die?: Same year, relative to Halo 5. 2
* "Died" and came back?: Left behind surrounded by enemies on High Charity. 3.5
* Average: 2.75. Probably replaced by "another Cortana model".

Didact:
* Cause of Death: Jumping after taking a grenade to the chest. 1.5
* Genre: KilledOffForReal. 343 Guilty Spark survived the destruction of his installation, but the Prophets stayed dead. 3
* Body Found?: Left for Dead, then nuked. 1.5
* Reaction?: He's Dead, Jim. Cortana congratulates the Chief for saving the day as always. 3
* Last Words: FamousLastWords / FinalSpeech. Attacked by Cortana, he tells her that "Your compassion for mankind is misplaced." "I'm not doing this for mankind," she replies. Voiceover explanation of his motives on the epilogue. 3
* Characterization: Archvillain. A lot of lore has gone into setting up the Didact/Librarian story. 1
* When Did They Die?: Same year, relative to Halo 5. 2
* "Died" and came back?: Once as the Ur-Didact, once as Bornstellar. 2
* Average: 2.13. The Chief hasn't seen the last of him.

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A fun contrary example: Private Antony Carmine from ''GearsOfWar''.
* Cause of Death: Got sniped in the head because a) he was wearing a helmet (and thus lacked peripheral vision), and b) he was dumb enough to stand up in the middle of a firefight. Definitely DeathByIrony. 4.
* Genre: Not really AnyoneCanDie, as the only characters ''to'' die are the ones expected to (the RedShirt, the Squad Leader, and the BigBad). Otherwise, though, death is handled realistically, so, KilledOffForReal. 3.
* Body Found?: We see his head burst (or at least blood splatter), but the actual body is left behind for dead (the squad was being shot at and chased off at the time), so somewhere between NeverFoundTheBody and DeaderThanDead. I'd say 3.5.
* Reaction: No real reaction other than brief surprise, since the surviving squad members are busy being shot at. I'm gonna say not applicable.
* Characterization: RedShirt. [[GenreSavvy Carmine is even a shade of red]]. A definite 4.
* When did they die?: Gears of War 2 takes place, what, a year after the original game? 2.
* Died and came back?: Nope. Realistically, this is a KilledOffForReal genre. 4.
* '''Average:''' 3.42. He ''should'' be just another forgotten dead RedShirt. And yet WordOfGod is that he's coming back in the sequel... How's that for accuracy, folks?
* Although "a" Carmine joined Fenix's gang in Gears of War 2, it was not the original Carmine; it was his brother.

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Dr. Breen in ''Half Life 2''
* Cause: Last seen trapped in a teleporter device about 50 feet below the epi-center of a massive explosion, so definitely NoOneCouldSurviveThat. 2.
* Genre: No major characters have died yet (Eli's fate is still in limbo until Episode 3 comes out). Alyx was pretty much dead, but brought back to life by the Vortigaunts, so BackFromTheDead. 1.
* Body Found?: Nope. See Cause. 3.
* Reaction: Almost none at all, actually. The protagonists don't celebrate (or even really remark on) his death, although one civilian does miss his show (he used to have jugglers!). No score.
* Characterization: Main antagonist (although ultimately he was just a tool of the Combine), so 1.
* When did they die: Technically, ''Episodes'' are expansion packs to ''Half Life 2'', so Same Arc. 1.
* Died and Come Back?: Never happened, because no one's died yet. 4.
* '''Average:''' An even 2. I guess we'll be seeing him in ''Episode 3'', so literally Back Next Episode. There's good money that the Combine Advisor in ''Episode 2'' is his new "host body".

Eli Vance, last seen being cranium-raped by a giant alien slug in the DownerEnding of ''Episode 2''.
* Cause: Well, he gave Gordon his final orders, then attacked the Advisor to distract it, so a HeroicSacrifice. 3.
* Genre: Same series, so 1 (see above).
* Body Found?: ''Episode 2'' fades out just as you reach his body, so there hasn't been time to check for a pulse, but he really looks DeaderThanDead. 4.
* Reaction: The game fades out with Alyx's hearfelt sobs over her father's body. This is obviously ItsPersonal, to get us in the mood to kick Advisor ass in ''Episode 3''. The rather down mood also kind of makes it HesDeadJim, too. I'll say 2.5.
* Characterization: [[DeathByOriginStory Loved One]]. AND WiseOldMentor to boot. Definitely a 4.
* When Did They Die?: The story is currently right up to his death, so definitely same arc. 1.
* Died and Come Back?: Nope. 4.
* '''Average:''' 2.79. I suppose he could just be a vegetable...

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For the hell of it, let's do [[spoiler:Adam]] from Metroid: Other M
* Cause of Death: Sacrifice: 3
* Genre: Anyone can Die (save Ridley): 4
* Body Found?: No: 2
* Reaction: It's Personal? 2
* Last Words: Final Speech: 3
* Characterization: I'm calling loved one: 4
* When did they die: Same Arc: 1
* Died and Come back?: I'm not counting computer Adam, so no: 4
23/8=2.875, so pretty dead.

And Now Ridley from the same game
* Cause of death: Overkill: 4
* Genre: Anyone can Die: 4
* Body Found: At he morgue pretty much: 3
* Reaction: he's dead Jim: 3
* Last Words: If Ridley could talk, he would've said Oh Crap: 4
* Characterization: Arch-Villian: 1
* When did they die?: Same Arc: 1
* Died and Come back?: I lost count: 1
21/8=2.625, and yet he makes his grand, cloned return in Fusion

One more from the game, just for fun: Anthony
* Cause of death: Jumping, pretty much: 1
* Genre: Anyone can die: 4
* Body Found: No: 2
* Reaction: It's personal?: 2
* Last Words: C'mon. I'll call it a 2
* Characterization: C list fodder: 3
* When did they die: Same Arc: 1
* Died and come back: No: 4
2.375. And yet, he comes back.

[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth]]
* Cause of death: Overkill (How many swords did Cloud use, please?). 4
* Genre: Back from the dead. 1
* Body Found: [[GrandTheftMe Didn't really have an actual body this time.]]
* Reaction: It's personal. Geostima? Didn't actually need it, just wanted to mess with Cloud. 2
* Last Words: [[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning "I'll never be a memory."]] 1
* Characterization: Archvillian. 1
* When did they die: Same Arc. 1
* Died and come back: Twice. 2
1.7142. Mama's boy is coming back, did ''anyone'' doubt it?
* He won against the Master ''and'' Davros. Yes, he IS that awesome.

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[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII Fang and Vanille]]
* Cause of death : HeroicSacrifice. 3
* Genre : Well, DeathIsCheap is the choice here, since all the "dead" main characters but Nora Estheim come back. 1
* Body Found : Analogous to Frozen. 2
* Reaction : Their part of the ending cutscene and the novella episode i could count as a Montage. 4
* Last Words : They talk to the others after their death and tell them they'll watch them or something, counts as a FinalSpeech. 3
* Characterization : Two protagonists. 1
* When : A little more than a year ago, so… let's say same year. 2
* "Died" and came back : Well, they already went to crystal stasis and came back, so… Once and got better. 3
2,375. They should be back in ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2 XIII-2]]''.

While we're on the subject, let's talk about [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2 Serah]]
* Cause of death : Knew that she would die if she continued her journey, but did so anyway, so it's a sacrifice. 3
* Genre : As above, DeathIsCheap. 1
* Body Found : Not applicable, as it happens in front of her companions.
* Reaction : HesDeadJim occurs at the time, while the ''Requiem Of The Goddess'' DLC makes it a montage. 3.5
* Last Words : Manages a strained and short FinalSpeech before death. 3
* Characterization : Protagonist. 1
* When : The Ending. 4
* "Died" and came back : Crystal Stasis in the first game. 3
Average of 2.643, so she'll be back sometime soon (assuming there's another sequel of course).
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[[VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment The Nameless One]] (non finale)
* Cause: Jumping onto a trap to set it off and the like: 1
* Genre: Even for other people, in D&D, DeathIsCheep: 1
* Body Found: Most places you use it it counts as LeftForDead 1
* Reaction: The party member reactions don't really fall under anything, but they are mostly sighs of "here we go again": 1
* Last Words: I forget what his death quotes are, I '''think''' they are mostly that dieing still hurts: 1 (though not to sure here)
* Character: Protagonist 1
* When: Same Arc 1
* How many times: I've lost count 1
Score: 1: It doesn't even take him an hour!
Hey! Isn't this our first straight "1" guy?

Getting flayed
* Cause: The Lady is overkill: 4
* Genre: 1
* Body: We don't see it, but flayed bodies remain: 4
* Reaction: none in-game, but typical Sigil would be "Oh look, another sod got himself flayed!" 3
* Last words: None
* Character: 1
* When: 1
* Alreddy: 1
15/7 2.1 Suprisingly low for flaying.


Anyone care to do the endings?
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[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Almalexia]]
* Cause: just plain killed in a duel by the player character. I think that's about 3.
* Genre: High Fantasy. Technically in this universe death isn't cheap, but godlike beings tend to pop back into existence more or less often. Let's give her a 2.
* Body Found: Left for dead in the Clockwork City. A clear-cut 1.
* Reaction: No one believed she's dead. 1
* Last Words: a "Piece of cake" speech about how she's going to off Nerevarine. 2
* Character: archvillainess / fallen heroine. 1
* When: In Skyrim's times it's about 200 years after her death. 4
* How many times: Not yet. 4
Score: 2.57. Something between "Be back soon" and "Maybe back later".
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[[spoiler: Hades]] from VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising
* Cause:[[spoiler: Overkill including but not limited to getting his torso chopped off, his head ripped off his body, and getting blasted to ashes]], 4
* Genre:[[spoiler: DeathIsCheap when it comes to gods]], 1
* Body:[[spoiler: Got blasted into dust by a giant laser beam during the FinalBattle; Hades even said he isn't even sure if he can get his body back]], 4
* Reaction:[[spoiler: Pit does a VSign after he won; that could count as a BondOneLiner]], 4
* Last Words: [[spoiler: Hades said FamousLastWords as he was dying]], 3
* Characterization: [[spoiler: Serves as the BigBad of the last two-thirds of the game]], 1
* When: [[spoiler: He just died]], 1
* Died and Come Back: [[spoiler: As far as we know, this is the first time Hades died]], 4
Score: 22/8 = 2.75 [[spoiler: Hades may come back since he probably has at least 25 years before the next game comes out; that's plenty of time to figure out a way to come back.]]
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[[spoiler:Revan]] in Star Wars: The Old Republic
* Cause of Death: Defeat in battle. 2.
* Audience Expectation: Killed Off for Real seems to be the norm for SW characters. 3.
* Body Found: Nope, vanished in a puff of light. 2.
* Reaction: Generally assumed to be dead. 3.
* Last Words: Echoes Malak's dying words. 3.
* Characterization: A former protagonist and one of the most popular SW EU characters. 1.
* When did he die?: Not quite sure how to sort this. Let's say 2.
* Died and come back?: Twice. 2.
Average: 2.25. Even if the SWTOR people don't already plan to bring him back, someone else will.
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Seth in ''Super Street Fighter IV'', using the events of Juri's ending.
* Cause of Death: Hm... Technically he was simply killed in battle, but it's kind of DeathByIrony that he failed to stop his traitorous henchwoman before she killed him. Let's say... '''2.5'''.
* Audience Expectation: For Street Fighter final bosses, DeathIsCheap. '''1'''.
* Body Found: He [[HesDeadJim lies there twitching onscreen]] with [[ChunkySalsaRule his crucial Tandem Engine implant smashed to bits]] (the pothole is justified given how vital it is to him). '''3.5'''.
* Reaction: 'Goodnight sweet prince. Rust in peace.' That's a BondOneLiner, and that's a '''4'''.
* Last Words: Gives a FinalSpeech to Juri about how he knew she was going to betray him (that case [[FridgeLogic why didn't he just kill her first?]]). '''3'''.
* Characterisation: Technically the {{Archvillain}} for ''SSFIV'', but in terms of the whole series he's more CListFodder. '''3'''.
* When Did They Die: The version we're using came out in 2010 so that's, uh, '''2.5''' let's say.
* Died And Come Back: Nope, first time. '''4'''.
Let's see... 23.5/8 equals... '''2.94'''. Chances have it, Seth is staying dead. Bonus points should probably be added on the grounds that the fanbase disliked him as a whole (seriously, we need some sort of constant that can be added to account for that).
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Greygnarl is ''Dragon Quest IX''.

Cause of Death: Makes a HeroicSacrifice to protect his hometown. '''3'''.

Audience Expectation: KilledOffForReal more than anything else. '''3'''.

Body Found?: When the blast of light fades after he is hit by the enormous attack, [[NeverFoundTheBody he's disappeared]]. '''2'''.

Reaction: Not much of one, to be honest, although the characters mention avenging him as another reason to stop the bad guys, which is close enough to ItsPersonal for this algorithm. '''2'''.

Last Words: Gives his FamousLastWords to the hero before giving himself up. '''3'''.

Characterisation: Eh... In the grand scheme of things, CListFodder. '''3'''.

When did they die?: Dragon Quest games tend to be self-contained, so it's effectively the same arc. '''1'''.

'Died' and came back?: No, not that we know of. '''4'''.


That comes to 21, which divided by 8 gives '''2.63'''. Surprisingly low, given the number of threes that he got, but the game would have you believe that he's snuffed it for good. [[spoiler: You should therefore all be rather surprised to discover that he is an extra grotto boss later on.]]
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Fawful in ''Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story''

Cause of Death: Villainous Sacrifice, if we have that - he blew himself up in a last-ditch attempt to kill the Mario Bros. '''3.'''

Audience Expectation: Although Mario baddies don't often stay down (just ask Bowser), the [=RPGs=] tend to get rid of theirs at the end of each game. '''3.'''

Body Found: When he explodes you see the globs of darkness that was all his reduced body consisted of by that stage. Probably comes under ChunkySalsaRule. '''4.'''

Reaction: Celebrations that he's gone, so that's HesDeadJim. '''3.'''

Last Words: FinalSpeech. '''3'''.

Characterisation: The recurring villain of the Mario & Luigi series. So a cross between 3 and 1 is... '''2.'''

When did they die?: Closer to 2 than it is to 3. '''2.'''

Died and come back?: Fawful has been shown to survive implausible circumstances that should lead to his death before (at the ending of ''Superstar Saga''), but there's a difference between a vague shot of him falling out of Bowser's flying Castle (and remember, he has flying headgear) and actually exploding into little bits. So if we go off time alone then it's '''4.'''


24/8='''3'''. So chances are he's gone for good, but there's ''just'' enough leeway for Alphadream to bring back probably their most popular character in the future. Remember, he may have been blown to bits but Bowser spat all those bits out in the air, so no-one knows what happened after that.

Let's pull out all the stops here. How about the King of the Koopas himself?

* '''Cause of death''': Mario defeats him every time. 2.
* '''Audience expectation''': This is ''[[JokerImmunity Bowser]]'' we're talking about. 1.
* '''Body found''': Not usually. 2.5.
* '''Reaction''': He kidnapped the princess. Of course ItsPersonal for Mario. 2.
* '''Last words''': Usually, nobody talks in Mario games. N/A.
* '''Characterization''': ''The'' archvillain. 1.
* '''When did they die?''': He is defeated in every game. 1.
* '''"Died" and come back?''': Oh, hell yeah. 1.
* '''Death value''': 10.5/7 = 1.5. We have a new record.

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[[spoiler:Lee Everett]] from ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead''

to:

* Last words: FinalSpeech - 3
* Characterization: Archvillan initially (except he actually isn't) Regular, almost protagonist - 1.5
* When: Same arc - 1
When Did He Die?: Three years ago in-universe, otherwise inapplicable
* Died and come back: came Back? No - 4
* Overall: 3. [[spoiler:He comes back immediately after.]]
** [[spoiler: Well, not so much ''him'' as the implants that Sovereign gave him. By that point, Saren's either [[DeaderThanDead already gone]] or in an AndIMustScream situation.]]

And, just for fun since [[ItWasHisSled we know]] [[BackFromTheDead the outcome]], the first time Commander Shepard dies at the beginning
Average: 3.08

Luke:
* Cause
of [[VideoGame/MassEffect2 [=ME2=]]].
* Cause: Do they ''make'' bridges big enough to drop on entire ships? That said, Shepard died trying to save Joker, so maybe we could count this as a HeroicSacrifice, as well. 3.5
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, as seen above. 4
* Body: ''Eventually'' found years later by [[spoiler: Liara]]. Still very much dead. 3.5
** I'd call that frozen; his helmet was intact, and the planet it landed on was well below the temperature needed to preserve the head inside.
* Reaction: Got a trope named after it: WeWereYourTeam. 4
* Last Words: "Get the hell out of here, Joker!" 2
* Characterization: Main character. 1
* When: Start of the game count as same arc? 1
* Died and Came Back: Maybe once if you count that DisneyDeath at the end of [=ME1=]. 3
* So 22/8 gives us 2.75. Pretty high score for a main character, and I was being light on some of them.

Let's do Shepard again, this time for ''really'' screwing up the suicide mission. WordOfGod is that you can't import a save where Shepard died into 3, so let's keep that in mind.
* Cause: Looks like a
Death: HeroicSacrifice to me. Joker probably would've kept on trying to hold off the Collectors and gotten killed either by them or the explosion that takes out the Collector Base, [[BringNewsBack no news would've been brought back]]. 3.
- 3
* Genre: [=ME2=] is reasonably far into AnyoneCanDie territory, so 4.
KilledOffForReal - 3
* Body: Depending on your choice in the endgame (destroying the Collector Base or handing it over to Cerberus), he either fell a huge distance and then got nuked, or just fell a huge distance. 3?
** nuked either way, the question is whether it's a giant bomb or just a giant radiation pulse intended to kill everything but leave their tech.
Body Found? No. - 3
* Reaction: Get the feeling this is a 3. Judging by the ending, Joker is pretty crushed.
* Last Words: "Joker, you have to tell them!" Putting this as a 2.5.
* Characterization: THE hero, pretty much. 1
* When: A bit more than two years ago, but at the very beginning of [=ME2=]. Putting this as 1.5.
* Died and Came Back: Once, so 3. They do make a big deal out of how people do NOT come
Characters believe he will be back from the dead, and how reviving Shepard is an insane exception, however.
- 1
* 2.625. Could come back again, but it'd cheapen his/her first resurrection. WordOfGod denies it, so let's assume [[EpilepticTrees s/he does with so many modifications to his/her body this time that s/he owns all the Reapers bare-handed]].

One last run of Shepard, this time at the end of ''VideoGame/MassEffect3'' if the destroy ending is taken.
* Cause: Shepard was sacrificing him/herself to to save the galaxy, making it a 3.
* Genre: This a a game where entire races can be wiped out, guaranteeing a 4.
* Body found: Never found the body, Judging by Tali's reaction, so 2.
* Reaction: Montage. 4.
* Last Words: Obi-Wan moment fits best here, so 3.
* Characterization:
Characterization. Protagonist. 1.
- 1
* When did they die: Same arc. 1.
Did He Die?: Three years ago in-universe, otherwise inapplicable
* Died and came back: Once, thanks to the Illusive Man. 3
* 2.625. The developers have said that this is not the last we will hear of Shepard, so it is possible that Galaxy's greatest hero will return from the dead.

Here's a fun one: Legion.
* Cause: Sacrificing itself to give its race sentience. 3
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie, mixed with the knowledge that geth platforms can return to the main hub and cheat death. Heavier leaning to the former. 3
* Body found: Non-applicable for geth.
* Reaction: [[HesDeadJim He's Dead, Shepard-Commander]]. 3
* Last Words: "I know, Tali. But thank you. Keelah se'lai." An excellent FinalSpeech. 3
* Characterization: Squadmate, but it's closer to RecurringCharacter than the likes of Tali or Garrus. 2.5
* When did they die: Same arc. 1
* Died and came back: As an individual, no.. which is what Legion was when it died/deactivated. Oddly, arguable as either 4 or 1. The game hints much more heavily at 4, though.
And Came back? No - 4
* Average: 2.714. 5

The Geth did create the Geth VI to replace Legion if it died in Omega-4 as well, so some rendition of Legion may indeed be coming back.
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Sgt. Johnson's death from the very end of the ''Halo'' Trilogy.
results favor Luke.

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''Time Crisis'']]

Just for kicks, Wild Dog:
* Cause of Of Death: He makes it to Blows himself up in a massive explosion at the very end of each game. In the trilogy, only to be killed off completely out latest game, ''Time Crisis 4'', he had a ton of left field by Guilty Spark to set up the final battle. Sounds a lot like they DroppedABridgeOnHim, but he also uses metal debris dropped on his last shot to save Master Chief from Spark, so it might count as a HeroicSacrifice instead. I'll give him a '''3.5'''.
head before blowing himself up. NoOneCouldSurviveThat. '''2'''
* Genre: Nominally KilledOffForReal, although by KilledOffForReal for all the end pretty much ''everyone'' is dead except series' other characters. However, for Chief, Cortana, and Arbiter, Wild Dog himself, DeathIsCheap. Oh so might count as AnyoneCanDie also. Again, I'll split the difference and give it a '''3.5'''.
very much. '''1'''
* Body Found?: Died in Master Chief's arms. Chief The heroes never bothered bother to take a pulse, but look. After all, the guy just exploded. NeverFoundTheBody. '''3'''
* Reaction: None (it's an arcade game, not Shakespeare). No score.
* Characterization: Although nominally TheDragon, he's the series' only recurring character and has sort of become the series' mascot, so
I'll assume he's not an idiot go ahead and had some way of knowing Johnson had expired list him as the Arch-Villain. '''1'''
* When Did They Die?: The last game,
and not simply passed out. And then the Halo he died based on blew up, although see below... So, DeaderThanDead.his rate of aging there seems to be a 5-10 year gap between each game, so I'll go with that. '''4'''.
* Reaction: [[HesDeadJim He's Dead, Jim]]. '''3'''.
* Characterization: Started out as a RedShirt in ''Halo'', but was made a series Regular in ''Halo 2''. '''2'''.
* When did they die?: Doesn't really count, since the series ends after his death. No score.
* Died and came back?: There was that little matter of being on a giant Ringworld just as it gets blown up in a massive explosion, yet coming back alive and well for the sequel. So a definite yes, he's done it before. '''3'''.
* Average = '''3.17'''. Rest in Peace, Sarge. "You were one hard-core son of a bitch".

Cortana:
* Cause of Death: HeroicSacrifice / NoOneCouldSurviveThat. Shields the Master Chief from a nuke. 2.5
* Genre: KillEmAll. Earth's colonies burn, and Earth's own population is reduced to 200 million. Capable, sympathetic people like Sgt. Johnson, Capt. Keyes, and his daughter, Lt. Commander Keyes are killed. Reach is a game in which all of your friends are killed and then you sacrifice yourself. Only Sgt. Johnson has been brought back from apparent death. 4
* Body Found?: NeverFoundTheBody. Cortana herself told John she would not survive the explosion, though. 2.5
* Reaction: He's Dead, Jim. Lasky consoles the Chief on his loss. 3
* Last Words: ObiWanMoment. Cortana uses the last of her strength to say goodbye. 3
* Characterization: Protagonist/Regular. Easily the second-most important character. 1.5
* When Did They Die?: Same year, relative to Halo 5. 2
* "Died" and came back?: Left behind surrounded by enemies on High Charity. 3.5
* Average: 2.75. Probably replaced by "another Cortana model".

Didact:
* Cause of Death: Jumping after taking a grenade to the chest. 1.5
* Genre: KilledOffForReal. 343 Guilty Spark survived the destruction of his installation, but the Prophets stayed dead. 3
* Body Found?: Left for Dead, then nuked. 1.5
* Reaction?: He's Dead, Jim. Cortana congratulates the Chief for saving the day as always. 3
* Last Words: FamousLastWords / FinalSpeech. Attacked by Cortana, he tells her that "Your compassion for mankind is misplaced." "I'm not doing this for mankind," she replies. Voiceover explanation of his motives on the epilogue. 3
* Characterization: Archvillain. A lot of lore has gone into setting up the Didact/Librarian story. 1
* When Did They Die?: Same year, relative to Halo 5. 2
* "Died" and came back?: Once as the Ur-Didact, once as Bornstellar. 2
* Average: 2.13. The Chief hasn't seen the last of him.

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A fun contrary example: Private Antony Carmine from ''GearsOfWar''.
* Cause of Death: Got sniped in the head because a) he was wearing a helmet (and thus lacked peripheral vision), and b) he was dumb enough to stand up in the middle of a firefight. Definitely DeathByIrony. 4.
* Genre: Not really AnyoneCanDie, as the only characters ''to'' die are the ones expected to (the RedShirt, the Squad Leader, and the BigBad). Otherwise, though, death is handled realistically, so, KilledOffForReal. 3.
* Body Found?: We see his head burst (or at least blood splatter), but the actual body is left behind for dead (the squad was being shot at and chased off at the time), so somewhere between NeverFoundTheBody and DeaderThanDead. I'd say 3.5.
* Reaction: No real reaction other than brief surprise, since the surviving squad members are busy being shot at. I'm gonna say not applicable.
* Characterization: RedShirt. [[GenreSavvy Carmine is even a shade of red]]. A definite 4.
* When did they die?: Gears of War 2 takes place, what, a year after the original game? 2.
* Died and came back?: Nope. Realistically, this is a KilledOffForReal genre. 4.
* '''Average:''' 3.42. He ''should'' be just another forgotten dead RedShirt. And yet WordOfGod is that he's coming back in the sequel... How's that for accuracy, folks?
* Although "a" Carmine joined Fenix's gang in Gears of War 2, it was not the original Carmine; it was his brother.

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Dr. Breen in ''Half Life 2''
* Cause: Last seen trapped in a teleporter device about 50 feet below the epi-center of a massive explosion, so definitely NoOneCouldSurviveThat. 2.
* Genre: No major characters have died yet (Eli's fate is still in limbo until Episode 3 comes out). Alyx was pretty much dead, but brought back to life by the Vortigaunts, so BackFromTheDead. 1.
* Body Found?: Nope. See Cause. 3.
* Reaction: Almost none at all, actually. The protagonists don't celebrate (or even really remark on) his death, although one civilian does miss his show (he used to have jugglers!). No score.
* Characterization: Main antagonist (although ultimately he was just a tool of the Combine), so 1.
* When did they die: Technically, ''Episodes'' are expansion packs to ''Half Life 2'', so Same Arc. 1.
* Died and Come
Came Back?: Never happened, because no one's died yet. 4.
* '''Average:''' An even 2. I guess we'll be seeing him in ''Episode 3'', so literally Back Next Episode. There's good money that the Combine Advisor in ''Episode 2'' is his new "host body".

Eli Vance, last seen being cranium-raped by a giant alien slug in the DownerEnding of ''Episode 2''.
* Cause: Well, he gave Gordon his final orders, then attacked the Advisor to distract it, so a HeroicSacrifice. 3.
* Genre: Same series, so 1 (see above).
* Body Found?: ''Episode 2'' fades out just as you reach his body, so there hasn't been time to check for a pulse, but he really looks DeaderThanDead. 4.
* Reaction: The game fades out with Alyx's hearfelt sobs over her father's body. This is obviously ItsPersonal, to get us in the mood to kick Advisor ass in ''Episode 3''. The rather down mood also kind of makes it HesDeadJim, too. I'll say 2.5.
* Characterization: [[DeathByOriginStory Loved One]]. AND WiseOldMentor to boot. Definitely a 4.
* When Did They Die?: The story is currently right up to his death, so definitely same arc. 1.
* Died and Come Back?: Nope. 4.
* '''Average:''' 2.79. I suppose he could just be a vegetable...

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For the hell of it, let's do [[spoiler:Adam]] from Metroid: Other M
* Cause of Death: Sacrifice: 3
* Genre: Anyone can Die (save Ridley): 4
* Body Found?: No: 2
* Reaction: It's Personal? 2
* Last Words: Final Speech: 3
* Characterization: I'm calling loved one: 4
* When did they die: Same Arc: 1
* Died and Come back?: I'm not counting computer Adam, so no: 4
23/8=2.875, so pretty dead.

And Now Ridley from the same game
* Cause of death: Overkill: 4
* Genre: Anyone can Die: 4
* Body Found: At he morgue pretty much: 3
* Reaction: he's dead Jim: 3
* Last Words: If Ridley could talk, he would've said Oh Crap: 4
* Characterization: Arch-Villian: 1
* When did they die?: Same Arc: 1
* Died and Come back?: I lost count: 1
21/8=2.625, and yet he makes his grand, cloned return in Fusion

One more from the game, just for fun: Anthony
* Cause of death: Jumping, pretty much: 1
* Genre: Anyone can die: 4
* Body Found: No: 2
* Reaction: It's personal?: 2
* Last Words: C'mon. I'll call it a 2
* Characterization: C list fodder: 3
* When did they die: Same Arc: 1
* Died and come back: No: 4
2.375. And yet, he comes back.

[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyVII Sephiroth]]
* Cause of death: Overkill (How many swords did Cloud use, please?). 4
* Genre: Back from the dead. 1
* Body Found: [[GrandTheftMe Didn't really have an actual body this time.]]
* Reaction: It's personal. Geostima? Didn't actually need it, just wanted to mess with Cloud. 2
* Last Words: [[MyDeathIsJustTheBeginning "I'll never be a memory."]] 1
* Characterization: Archvillian. 1
* When did they die: Same Arc. 1
* Died and come back: Twice. 2
1.7142. Mama's boy is coming back, did ''anyone'' doubt it?
* He won against the Master ''and'' Davros.
Yes, he IS that awesome.

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[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII Fang and Vanille]]
* Cause of death : HeroicSacrifice. 3
* Genre : Well, DeathIsCheap is the choice here, since all the "dead" main characters but Nora Estheim come back. 1
* Body Found : Analogous
to Frozen. 2
* Reaction : Their part of the ending cutscene and the novella episode i could count as a Montage. 4
* Last Words : They talk to the others after their death and tell them they'll watch them or something, counts as a FinalSpeech. 3
* Characterization : Two protagonists. 1
* When : A little more than a year ago, so… let's say same year. 2
* "Died" and came back : Well, they already went to crystal stasis and came back, so… Once and got better. 3
2,375. They should be back in ''[[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2 XIII-2]]''.

While we're on the subject, let's talk about [[VideoGame/FinalFantasyXIII2 Serah]]
* Cause of death : Knew that she would die if she continued her journey, but did so anyway, so it's a sacrifice. 3
* Genre : As above, DeathIsCheap. 1
* Body Found : Not applicable, as
put it happens in front of her companions.
* Reaction : HesDeadJim occurs at the time, while the ''Requiem Of The Goddess'' DLC makes it a montage. 3.5
* Last Words : Manages a strained and short FinalSpeech before death. 3
* Characterization : Protagonist. 1
* When : The Ending. 4
* "Died" and came back : Crystal Stasis in the first game. 3
Average of 2.643, so she'll be back sometime soon (assuming there's another sequel of course).
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[[VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment The Nameless One]] (non finale)
* Cause: Jumping onto a trap to set it off and the like: 1
* Genre: Even for other people, in D&D, DeathIsCheep: 1
* Body Found: Most places you use it it counts as LeftForDead 1
* Reaction: The party member reactions don't really fall under anything, but they are mostly sighs of "here we go again": 1
* Last Words: I forget what his death quotes are, I '''think''' they are mostly that dieing still hurts: 1 (though not to sure here)
* Character: Protagonist 1
* When: Same Arc 1
* How many times: I've lost count 1
Score: 1: It doesn't even take him an hour!
Hey! Isn't this our first straight "1" guy?

Getting flayed
* Cause: The Lady is overkill: 4
* Genre: 1
* Body: We don't see it, but flayed bodies remain: 4
* Reaction: none in-game, but typical Sigil would be "Oh look, another sod got himself flayed!" 3
* Last words: None
* Character: 1
* When: 1
* Alreddy: 1
15/7 2.1 Suprisingly low for flaying.


Anyone care to do the endings?
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[[VideoGame/TheElderScrollsIIIMorrowind Almalexia]]
* Cause: just plain killed in a duel by the player character. I think that's about 3.
* Genre: High Fantasy. Technically in this universe death isn't cheap, but godlike beings tend to pop back into existence more or less often. Let's give her a 2.
* Body Found: Left for dead in the Clockwork City. A clear-cut 1.
* Reaction: No one believed she's dead. 1
* Last Words: a "Piece of cake" speech about how she's going to off Nerevarine. 2
* Character: archvillainess / fallen heroine. 1
* When: In Skyrim's times it's about 200 years after her death. 4
* How many times: Not yet. 4
Score: 2.57. Something between "Be back soon" and "Maybe back later".
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[[spoiler: Hades]] from VideoGame/KidIcarusUprising
* Cause:[[spoiler: Overkill including but not limited to getting his torso chopped off, his head ripped off his body, and getting blasted to ashes]], 4
* Genre:[[spoiler: DeathIsCheap when it comes to gods]], 1
* Body:[[spoiler: Got blasted into dust by a giant laser beam during the FinalBattle; Hades even said he isn't even sure if he can get his body back]], 4
* Reaction:[[spoiler: Pit does a VSign after he won; that could count as a BondOneLiner]], 4
* Last Words: [[spoiler: Hades said FamousLastWords as he was dying]], 3
* Characterization: [[spoiler: Serves as the BigBad of the last two-thirds of the game]], 1
* When: [[spoiler: He just died]], 1
* Died and Come Back: [[spoiler: As far as we know, this is the first time Hades died]], 4
Score: 22/8 = 2.75 [[spoiler: Hades may come back since he probably has at least 25 years before the next game comes out; that's plenty of time to figure out a way to come back.]]
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[[spoiler:Revan]] in Star Wars: The Old Republic
* Cause of Death: Defeat in battle. 2.
* Audience Expectation: Killed Off for Real seems to be the norm for SW characters. 3.
* Body Found: Nope, vanished in a puff of light. 2.
* Reaction: Generally assumed to be dead. 3.
* Last Words: Echoes Malak's dying words. 3.
* Characterization: A former protagonist and one of the most popular SW EU characters. 1.
* When did he die?: Not quite sure how to sort this. Let's say 2.
* Died and come back?: Twice. 2.
Average: 2.25. Even if the SWTOR people don't already plan to bring him back, someone else will.
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Seth in ''Super Street Fighter IV'', using the events of Juri's ending.
* Cause of Death: Hm... Technically he was simply killed in battle, but it's kind of DeathByIrony that he failed to stop his traitorous henchwoman before she killed him. Let's say... '''2.5'''.
* Audience Expectation: For Street Fighter final bosses, DeathIsCheap.
mildly. '''1'''.
* Body Found: He [[HesDeadJim lies there twitching onscreen]] Average = '''2'''. Honestly, this should be lower, but still it's no surprise Wild Dog will just keep coming back for more. Interestingly, he's visibly aging with [[ChunkySalsaRule his crucial Tandem Engine implant smashed each game, so I suppose eventually Father Time will do what countless bullets to bits]] (the pothole is justified given how vital the face and several massive explosions have failed to do so far.

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[[folder:''Umineko: When They Cry'']]

Beatrice:
* Cause: Honestly? PuffOfLogic. Not sure it's listed, but the fight had some similarity to redemption, so I'll give
it is to him). '''3.5'''.
- 3
* Body: She disappeared in a PuffOfLogic; what do you think? NeverFoundTheBody - 3
* Reaction: 'Goodnight sweet prince. Rust in peace.' That's a BondOneLiner, ItsPersonal - 2
* Genre: KillEmAll... over
and that's a '''4'''.
over and over again. Does that make this DeathIsCheap? I'll give it - 1.5
* Last Words: Gives a FinalSpeech LastWords: A thank you to Juri about how Battler for having fun with her during their game. I'll call it a FinalSpeech, I guess - 3
* Characterization: Archvillain for whom the main character is TheOnlyOneAllowedToDefeatYou. And
he knew she was going to betray him (that case [[FridgeLogic why didn't he just kill her first?]]). '''3'''.
* Characterisation: Technically the {{Archvillain}} for ''SSFIV'', but in terms of the whole series he's more CListFodder. '''3'''.
* When Did They Die: The version we're using came out in 2010 so that's, uh, '''2.5''' let's say.
- 1
* Died And Come Back: Nope, first time. '''4'''.
Let's see... 23.
and came back: Once - 3
* When: Last arc - 2
* 17.
5/8 equals... '''2.94'''. Chances have it, Seth is staying dead. Bonus points should = 2.1875 She's probably be added on the grounds that the fanbase disliked him as a whole (seriously, we need some sort of constant that can be added to account for that).
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Greygnarl is ''Dragon Quest IX''.

Cause of Death: Makes a HeroicSacrifice to protect his hometown. '''3'''.

Audience Expectation: KilledOffForReal more than anything else. '''3'''.

Body Found?: When the blast of light fades after he is hit by the enormous attack, [[NeverFoundTheBody he's disappeared]]. '''2'''.

Reaction: Not much of one, to be honest, although the characters mention avenging him as another reason to stop the bad guys, which is close enough to ItsPersonal for this algorithm. '''2'''.

Last Words: Gives his FamousLastWords to the hero before giving himself up. '''3'''.

Characterisation: Eh... In the grand scheme of things, CListFodder. '''3'''.

When did they die?: Dragon Quest games tend to be self-contained, so it's effectively the same arc. '''1'''.

'Died' and came back?: No, not that we know of. '''4'''.


That comes to 21, which divided by 8 gives '''2.63'''. Surprisingly low, given the number of threes that he got, but the game would have you believe that he's snuffed it for good.
coming back in an arc or two.
**
[[spoiler: You should therefore all be rather surprised to discover that he is an extra grotto boss later on.]]
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Fawful
Beatrice was resurrected in ''Mario & Luigi: Bowser's Inside Story''

Cause
Ep 6, ''but'' she was based of Death: Villainous Sacrifice, if we have that - he blew himself up in a last-ditch attempt to kill Battler's memories of her, the Mario Bros. '''3.'''

Audience Expectation: Although Mario baddies don't often stay down (just ask Bowser), the [=RPGs=] tend to get rid of theirs
original Beatrice III/Yasu died filled with regret.]]

Yasu
at the end of each game. '''3.'''

Body Found: When he explodes you see
the globs of darkness that was all his reduced body consisted of by that stage. Probably comes under ChunkySalsaRule. '''4.'''

series:
* Cause: RedemptionEqualsDeath through suicide - 3
* Body: NeverFoundTheBody due to jumping overboard into the sea - 2
*
Reaction: Celebrations [[spoiler: Battler]] jumped after so let's say a 2
* Genre: AnyoneCanDie [[spoiler: since no one but Battler, Eva and Yasu survived the massacre]] - 4
* LastWords: LastKiss, can
that he's gone, so that's HesDeadJim. '''3.'''

Last Words: FinalSpeech. '''3'''.

Characterisation: The recurring villain of the Mario & Luigi series. So
count as a cross between 3 and 1 is... '''2.'''

When did they die?: Closer to 2 than
FinalSpeech? In that case a 3
* Characterization: As confusing as
it is to 3. '''2.'''

[[spoiler: Yasu]] counts as a protagonist - 1
*
Died and come back?: Fawful has been shown to survive implausible circumstances that should lead to his death came back While the series is built on a GroundhogDayLoop, this scene shows the real Rokkenjima - 4
* When: The body wasn't found
before (at the ending of ''Superstar Saga''), DistantFinale - 4
* 23/8=2,875, probably dead
but there's still a difference between a vague shot of him falling out of Bowser's flying Castle (and remember, he has flying headgear) possibility that the WMG is true and actually exploding into little bits. So if we go off time alone then it's '''4.'''


24/8='''3'''. So chances are he's gone for good, but there's ''just'' enough leeway for Alphadream to bring back probably their most popular character in the future. Remember, he may have been blown to bits but Bowser spat all those bits out in the air, so no-one knows what happened after that.

Let's pull out all the stops here. How about the King of the Koopas himself?

* '''Cause of death''': Mario defeats him every time. 2.
* '''Audience expectation''': This is ''[[JokerImmunity Bowser]]'' we're talking about. 1.
* '''Body found''': Not usually. 2.5.
* '''Reaction''': He kidnapped the princess. Of course ItsPersonal for Mario. 2.
* '''Last words''': Usually, nobody talks in Mario games. N/A.
* '''Characterization''': ''The'' archvillain. 1.
* '''When did they die?''': He is defeated in every game. 1.
* '''"Died"
that [[spoiler: Yasu survived and come back?''': Oh, hell yeah. 1.
* '''Death value''': 10.5/7 = 1.5. We have a new record.

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[[spoiler:Lee Everett]] from ''VideoGame/TheWalkingDead''
changed his/her name to Ikuko Hachijō]]

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[[folder:''The Walking Dead'']]

Lee Everett:



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Surprise, surprise! They killed off [[spoiler:Yuuki Terumi]] in ''VideoGame/BlazBlueChronophantasma''! How likely is he gonna come back?
* '''Cause of death''': [[spoiler:Died anticlimatically with Time Killer, having all his time before his natural death destroyed. Thus Bridge Drop. 4]]
* '''Audience expectation''': AnyoneCanDie. 4.
* '''Body found''': [[spoiler:He fell off to the nearest body with Platinum and his body is never found, or no one bothers to. 2]]
* '''Reaction''': Unclear as it is a bit vague. Will get back to this, but for now, discounted.
* '''Last words''': [[spoiler:"If I'm dead, I'm taking you (Platinum) with me!" Very close to 'Crap!'. 4.]]
* '''Characterization''': [[spoiler:He's the ArchVillain... or so he thinks. But he's a pretty major character. Not to mention the fanbase LOOOOVES him! 1.]]
* '''When did they die?''': [[spoiler:Now this is very confusing. He died in the most recent arc, so it should be 1. However, Chronophantasma is very much the climax of the story and nearing the GrandFinale, so it should be 4. Let's take the center and make it 2.5]]
* '''"Died" and come back?''': [[spoiler:Was once killed on purpose by Relius and then still came back. We'll say... just once and got better. 3]]
* '''Death value''': [[spoiler:20.5/7: 2.93. Above average, so I think if Terumi wants to come back, wait until another arc that is not about the tales of Ragna.]]

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Let's try [[spoiler:Desmond]] from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII''.

* '''Cause of death:''' Straightforward HeroicSacrifice. 3.
* '''Audience expectation:''' Not quite KillEmAll territory, but main characters have died before, and ThePurge of the Assassins is described in [[AllThereInTheManual background material]]. Let's call it a 3.
* '''Body status:''' Recovered by Abstergo; about equivalent to "at the morgue". 3.
* '''Reaction:''' A ReallyDeadMontage-like...thing from [[spoiler:Juno]], plus a post-credits cutscene showing that his sacrifice has [[spoiler:saved the world]]. 4.
* '''Last words:''' N/A.
* '''Characterization:''' [[spoiler:Protagonist]]. 1.
* '''When did they die?:''' Two years of real time, putting it between 2 and 3 for a 2.5.
* '''"Died" and come back?:''' Never, unless you count [[spoiler:his coma in the Animus in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations''. 3.
* '''Death value:''' 2.79. We might see him again later, but probably not for a while.

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Surprise, surprise! They killed off [[spoiler:Yuuki Terumi]] in ''VideoGame/BlazBlueChronophantasma''! How likely is he gonna come back?
* '''Cause

[[/folder]]

[[folder:''World
of death''': [[spoiler:Died anticlimatically with Time Killer, having all his time before his natural death destroyed. Thus Bridge Drop. 4]]
* '''Audience expectation''': AnyoneCanDie. 4.
* '''Body found''': [[spoiler:He fell off to the nearest body with Platinum
Warcraft'']]

[[KnightInShiningArmor Bolvar Fordragon]]
and his body is never found, or no one bothers to. 2]]
* '''Reaction''': Unclear as it is a bit vague. Will get back to this, but for now, discounted.
* '''Last words''': [[spoiler:"If I'm dead, I'm taking you (Platinum) with me!" Very close to 'Crap!'. 4.]]
* '''Characterization''': [[spoiler:He's the ArchVillain... or so he thinks. But he's a pretty major character. Not to mention the fanbase LOOOOVES him! 1.]]
* '''When did they die?''': [[spoiler:Now this is very confusing. He died in the most recent arc, so it should be 1. However, Chronophantasma is very much the climax of the story and nearing the GrandFinale, so it should be 4. Let's take the center and make it 2.5]]
* '''"Died" and come back?''': [[spoiler:Was once killed on purpose by Relius and then still came back. We'll say... just once and got better. 3]]
* '''Death value''': [[spoiler:20.5/7: 2.93. Above average, so I think if Terumi wants to come back, wait until another arc that is not about the tales of Ragna.
[[ProudWarriorRaceGuy Saurfang jr.]]

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Let's try [[spoiler:Desmond]] from ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedIII''.

Bolvar:
* '''Cause of death:''' Straightforward HeroicSacrifice. 3.
Cause: Dropped a few barrels filled with a deadly disease (that destroys living beings and undead alike) on him. [[NoOneCouldSurviveThat No one survived that]]: 2
* '''Audience expectation:''' Not quite KillEmAll territory, Genre: For player Characters, [[DeathIsCheap Death may be cheap]], but main characters have died before, and ThePurge of the Assassins is described in [[AllThereInTheManual background material]]. Let's call it when they make a 3.
* '''Body status:''' Recovered by Abstergo; about equivalent to "at the morgue". 3.
* '''Reaction:''' A ReallyDeadMontage-like...thing from [[spoiler:Juno]], plus a post-credits cutscene
cinematic showing that you die, then you usually stay dead ([[TheUndead with or without prefix]]): 3
* Body: either the disease rotted
his sacrifice has [[spoiler:saved flesh away, or he got burned by the world]]. 4.
* '''Last words:''' N/A.
* '''Characterization:''' [[spoiler:Protagonist]]. 1.
* '''When did they die?:''' Two years
breath of real time, putting it the red dragons. Either way, The Body's gone: 4
* Reaction: ItsPersonal for King Wrynn, and causes a major War
between 2 the Alliance and 3 for a 2.5.
the Horde: 2
* '''"Died" Characterization: [[spoiler:Former Boss of Stormwind]] and major Character in Wrath of the Lich King: 2
* When: Same year: 2
* Died
and come back?:''' Never, unless you count [[spoiler:his coma in the Animus in ''VideoGame/AssassinsCreedRevelations''. 3.
back: nope: 4
* '''Death value:''' Average: 19/7 = 2.79. We might see him again later, but 71. Will probably not for come back in one of the next patches (possibly as a while.Boss in [[SupervillainLair Icecrown Citadel]])

Saurfang jr.:
* Cause: Got his soul sucked out of him by the games trademark [[ArtifactOfDoom Artifact of Doom]]: 2
* Genre: See above: 3
* Body: See above: 4
* Reaction: [[ItsPersonal Its Personal]]. The Horde ain't to happy about his death.: 2
* Characterization: Recurring Character: 3
* When: Same year: 2
* Dead and back: Again, no: 4
* Average: 20/7= 2.85. A bit deader than the above, but still likely to be a future boss encounter.

[[/folder]]

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24th Jun '17 12:02:20 PM nombretomado
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Currently, [[spoiler:Shirley]] from ''CodeGeass'' and [[spoiler:the real Caulder]] from ''VideoGame/AdvanceWars: Days of Ruin'' have scored 4, the highest possible. The latter is more notable by having 4 in ''every'' category instead of getting the [=CLAMP=] bonus that the former got. No characters have got the lowest possible score of 1 yet, but [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser]] is the leader of the death-defying derby at 1.5, even beating WesternAnimation/SouthPark's Kenny.

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Currently, [[spoiler:Shirley]] from ''CodeGeass'' ''Anime/CodeGeass'' and [[spoiler:the real Caulder]] from ''VideoGame/AdvanceWars: Days of Ruin'' have scored 4, the highest possible. The latter is more notable by having 4 in ''every'' category instead of getting the [=CLAMP=] bonus that the former got. No characters have got the lowest possible score of 1 yet, but [[Franchise/SuperMarioBros Bowser]] is the leader of the death-defying derby at 1.5, even beating WesternAnimation/SouthPark's Kenny.
4th May '17 2:40:46 PM Gregzilla
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* Cause of Death: Hm... Technically he was simply killed in battle, but it's kind of DeathByIrony that he failed to stop his ReliableTraitor henchwoman before she killed him. Let's say... '''2.5'''.

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* Cause of Death: Hm... Technically he was simply killed in battle, but it's kind of DeathByIrony that he failed to stop his ReliableTraitor traitorous henchwoman before she killed him. Let's say... '''2.5'''.
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Let's take a look at [[SuikodenII Luca Blight]], arguably the greatest RPG villain ever.

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Let's take a look at [[SuikodenII [[VideoGame/SuikodenII Luca Blight]], arguably the greatest RPG villain ever.



* Genre: Well, it's {{Suikoden}}, so AnyoneCanDie. 4.

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* Genre: Well, it's {{Suikoden}}, VideoGame/{{Suikoden}}, so AnyoneCanDie. 4.



* When: Well, seeing as {{Suikoden III}} takes place 15 years later...let's just say 4, all right?

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* When: Well, seeing as {{Suikoden VideoGame/{{Suikoden III}} takes place 15 years later...let's just say 4, all right?
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[[PlanescapeTorment The Nameless One]] (non finale)

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[[PlanescapeTorment [[VideoGame/PlanescapeTorment The Nameless One]] (non finale)
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''{{Persona 3}}'':

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''{{Persona 3}}'':''VideoGame/Persona3'':



* Average: 23.5/8 = 2.94. Might be back. [[spoiler:''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' mentions that Elizabeth has gone in search of a way to save him from the burden of being the Great Seal, which gives some support to the possibility.]]


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* Average: 23.5/8 = 2.94. Might be back. [[spoiler:''VideoGame/{{Persona 4}}'' [[spoiler:''VideoGame/Persona4'' mentions that Elizabeth has gone in search of a way to save him from the burden of being the Great Seal, which gives some support to the possibility.]]

4th Jan '17 3:52:50 PM nombretomado
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* 14/5 = 2.8 He's unlikely to come back. Given that he's in the same possibly-canon ending as GLaDOS, if she survives that means he probably does. Of course, that doesn't mean it would actually show him.

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* 14/5 = 2.8 He's unlikely to come back. Given that he's in the same possibly-canon ending as GLaDOS, [=GlaDOS=], if she survives that means he probably does. Of course, that doesn't mean it would actually show him.
7th Jul '16 6:16:18 AM Morgenthaler
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* Characterization: TheObiWan. 4.

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* Characterization: TheObiWan.TheMentor. 4.



* Characterization: [[spoiler: BigGood / TheObiWan]] 1

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* Characterization: [[spoiler: BigGood / TheObiWan]] TheMentor]] 1
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