Headscratchers: Gravity Falls

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     General 
  • This has less to do with an episode and more to do with the series in general: How exactly do we know Dipper has a crush on Wendy? TV Tropes mentioned it a handful of times, and so do a few other sites whenever they mention her. As of this writing, only the pilot was released and Wendy barely got screentime, nor was there any indication of Dipper's feelings towards her. Where is everyone getting this idea?
    • All There In The Manual. note 
    • And several later episodes pretty much revolve around it.
  • Another one similar to the above: Can somebody please tell me where and when somebody says that Wendy is Manly Dan's daughter?
    • Disney Channel Medianet. note 
    • Also in the show, Wendy shows a picture of herself with her three brothers, who were seen in an earlier episode fishing with Manly Dan.
  • How does this site list things from episodes that have not yet officially premiered on Disney Channel?
    • Episodes have been leaked repeatedly.
    • People with On-Demand see the episodes early, and some people put it on the internet for others to see before it airs officially.
  • The parents had to know what being with Uncle Stan was like. Who in their right mind would think it was a good idea to leave them in Gravity Falls? Were the parents simply fed up with child-rearing in the off-chance cryptids would come knocking?
    • Maybe the parent whose uncle he is has really fond memories of spending the summer at their cool uncle's place. Also, he's not actually malevolent, and he seems to get along very well with the children. (I'm not entirely sure if they basically meet him for the first time or not.) And maybe he was the only one available.
    • In "Gideon Rises", after the events of the prior episode, they do call to check up on the twins and him, so they do care about him. He lies to try and ease their concerns and judging by the way he says "You too," at the end, they probably told him that they loved him.
  • How come there are already foreign dubs of the show when season 1 isnít even over yet?
    • it's a popular show and on Disney which streams world wide. I'd be a tad more surprised if there wasn't any foreign dubs out
  • When is it canonically stated that Dipper and Mabels' middle names are their parents' first names? It's all over the GF Wiki, and I'm a little confused.
  • A minor one, but why does Dipper only get one character-specific scene in the intro while Mabel & Stan both get two?
    • I always thought the extras were meant to go to Soos and Wendy... But what do I know?
    • This is getting a little close to WMG, but mayby it has something to do with the fact that both of them have two symbols on Bill's circle (as of now)?
    • It could be because Dipper's is about twice as long as either of Mable's or Stan's, meaning that all three of them get roughly the same amount of time.
  • Why does everyone insist on spelling Bill's last name with a "y"?
  • Who stole the capers?
    • The Caper-Case Caper.
  • Do journal number three's pages really stop as if the person writing it mysteriously disappeared, or is it because they hid it in the forest and it would be weird if they went out into the forest alone every time they wanted to update it while they believe they're being watched?
    • Both theories make sense. The answer, though, is unknown since we haven't been given the answer yet.
    • This has been explained. The reason is that the author continued from that point in invisible ink to hide it from prying eyes.
  • Yes
  • Why does the fanbase (particularly on this site, but I've seen it elsewhere) treat this whole "Stan has a twin brother" theory like it's some huge secret or conspiracy? Stan obviously has a brother. That has been implicit since the very first episode. His brother is Dipper and Mabel's grandfather, because that's kind of what a great-uncle is: your grandparent's sibling. And we know that grandparent is a man because Stan and the twins share the same last name. I understand the fun of Epileptic Trees and I don't mean to ruin that, but come on. This one shouldn't be some zany theory. It should just be common sense.
    • The whole secrecy thing about Stans brother/Dipper and Mabels grandfather isnt that he exists, he obviously must, but that he is involved in the mysteries surrounding Gravity Falls and the hidden Gate beneath the Mystery Shack.
    • We don't know whether whichever of the twins' grandparents is related to Stan was a brother or a sister. Obviously he has at least one sibling because he's the twins' great-uncle, but there's a (very likely) possibility that he has a twin brother connected to the Gravity Falls mysteries and, considering the evidence for his existence in the first place and his absence in the present, he's confronted Bill Cipher in the past and it didn't end well for him. It's a secret because no one in the show has openly acknowledged him.
      • It is almost definitely a brother because they share the same last name. For the same reason, he has to be their paternal grandfather. Maybe we don't know what significance he has, if any, but we do know exactly who he is.
      • You are aware that he could still have a twin and the grandfather is the younger or older brother right? I mean I have twin cousins named Jade and India with a younger brother and older sister.
  • So how many fingers do normal people have? Dipper and Mabel have Four-Fingered Hands but the Author having six fingers is a big deal...
  • Who puts a peach pit in a soda can, anyway? And for that matter, how do they get it in there?

     Characters 
  • If Grunkle Stan's full name is Stanford, why does his license plate read STNLYMBL (Stanley Mobile)?
    • Maybe he finds Stanford a little dorky or stuck-up sounding and prefers to be called Stanley?
    • Knowing Stan, he probably stole it.
    • Stanley can be shortened for Stanford?
      • Stanley typically isn't a nickname, though in this case the show might use it that way because both share "Stan" as a root of sorts.
    • There's a huge heaping pile of evidence that Stanford had a twin brother who was the previous inhabitant of the Mystery Shack. The license plate is a part of that huge heaping pile, with the inference that the car also belonged to the twin — who was probably named Stanley.
    • As of ''A Tale of Two Stans" we know that the Stan we followed is actually Stanley Pines who took the name of his brother, Stanford Pines after an accident that left the latter lost in an unknown dimension.
  • Why does Robbie feel romantically threatened by a 12-year old? He knows that Dipper isn't serious competition, Wendy wouldn't leave him for Dipper.
    • I think he might be insecure.
    • He knows Dipper treats Wendy better than he does. Maybe he's not afraid that'll lead to romance, but just to them hanging out more or her realizing Robbie's a jerk.
      • Well, Robbie isnít a jerk to Wendy, keep in mind. He actually treats her pretty well and definitely likes her. Heís arrogant to everyone around him, but Wendy knows him well enough to know thatís just how he is. And it should be taken into account how jaded Wendy is to datingóif he did treat her wrongly, sheíd likely dump him in an instant. Mostly, Robbie sees Dipper as a threat because heís an insecure teenager who struggles with his identity and tries to make a ďstatementĒ through his clothing and music, amongst other things.
    • Because he's a stereotypical "teen" character. Teens are thought of, and usually are, not as smart as they think they are, and not as emotionally stable as an adult, as they are still growing. All that jazz. He's jealous of Dipper because it would be weird for the stereotypical teen not to be insanely jealous of everything that even looks at his girlfriend.
    • Overall it's complicated and you have to examine the episodes to track it all:
      • In "The Inconveniencing," they first met. Things began when Dipper pointed out Robbie's explosion graffiti resembled more a muffin and embarassing him in front of his friends and Wendy. Over the episode, he acts condescending toward Dipper, but simply incites Dipper to try harder. An example is when Robbie fails to get into the store, Dipper then tries. After being teased, Dipper goes and gets them in, embarassing him further. The episodes ends with them pretty much on neutral terms, him nodding in respect of Dipper ridding the ghosts.
      • In "Double Dipper," Dipper attempts to keep Robbie away by using his clones. Not much interaction, though we see Dipper's view on Robbie.
      • In "The Time Traveler's Pig," the situation intensifies. Dipper keeps trying to win Wendy the stuffed animal, but ultimately fails, leading to Robbie beginning to date Wendy, much to Dipper's chagrin. Here, we see that Robbie doesn't like Dipper or Mabel very much, a typical quality that older teenagers have toward younger kids, the dislike being mutual.
      • Everything is summed up in "The Fight Fighters." Here, we see that while Robbie likes Wendy, he sometimes doesn't pay attention to her. This leads to an argument between him and Dipper resulting in Robbie finding out about Dipper liking Wendy. Before going to try and call her to tell her, Dipper stops him and breaks the phone in process. Finally fed up with Dipper for embarassing him as well as getting in the way with Wendy, the fight is announced. Matters intensify when Dipper gets Rumble onto Robbie. After Dipper stands to Rumble, Robbie attempts to start the fight, but can no longer find it to hurt Dipper, either out of minor respect for acting like a man or that Dipper was already pounded on to where Robbie feels it isn't worth it. Ultimately, he is forced to come to terms that Dipper is an important guy in Wendy's life and will not go away. Dipper and Robbie agree to 'hate each other in silence.'
      • Ultimately, he views Dipper as a nuisance but later as a threat and someone he just doesn't like. However, he is forced to accept that he will not go away. Dipper's maturity, skills and determination makes him stand out and Robbie acknowledges that.
  • What is up with Dipper's voice? It is really deep! Early puberty much?
    • I wouldn't be suprised if the voice choice is so that listening to dipper's dialogue doesn't make an older audience want to rip their ears out. I mean, cmon, this show is so out of Disney Channel's character that they have to be aiming for a periphery fanbase.
    • This is hilariously ironic, since "Bottomless Pit" makes it a plot point that Dipper's normal voice is apparently crackly, prepubescent, and girly.
      • Also, that story is told by Dipper. He may think his own voice sounds worse than it actually does — which is not an uncommon thing for kids that age.
  • Dipper's crush on Wendy seems to be unrealistic and despite being a smart kid this crush raises two questions... 1, does he know that he will eventually go back to Piedmont and will never see Wendy again and 2, if he somehow marries Wendy does he honestly want to have that insane lumberjack Manly Dan Corduroy as a father-in-law?
    • Strong emotions like love don't usually take logic into account.
    • "Never see Wendy again"? Whose to say Dipper and Mabel won't go back to the Shack for subsequent summers, especially given how much the place has grown on them by the end of season 1?
    • He does seem to know that it may ultimately not go anywhere, based on how much he was able to sympathize with Mabel's plight with Mermando. Won't stop him from trying though.
    • Near the end of "Into The Bunker, Wendy reveals she was somewhat aware of Dipper's crush on her. While very flattered, she does let him down gently. Whether the ship has sunk or not is not completely sure, but now it is.
    • Well for the record, his crush is realistic. In reality most first crushes are very irrational and unrealistic in a young person's pubescence and they normally end similarly to how his ended (he was lucky to be let down so easy). In the end, if anything Dipper's crush on Wendy is actually relatable.
  • This troper's been noticing this but why exactly does Pacifica hate Mabel anyway? It's not really explained and she kinda shows a unhealthy unexplained hatred of her... she even keeps a billboard with Mabel's face on it as seen in "Gideon Rises".
    • Some people are just terrible people for no adequately explainable reason.
    • It's been confirmed on Alex Hirsch's twitter she'll get more characterization in season 2. Maybe they'll explain it then?
    • It's a clash of opposites. Pacifica is used to getting her way since she is the popular girl in town. To the town, she's the descendant of the town's founders and well-off regarding wealth. If she snubbed you, you'd probably be screwed in the town. Mabel is her opposite, clashing Pacifica's fashion with her homemade sweaters and being a cheery girl who defies the conventions, and having no power over her.
    • Pacifica's relationship with her parents in "The Golf War" explains everything!
  • If the picture of nine-year-old Mabel is accurate, she's been stuck in braces for almost five years. That's almost unheard-of in this day and age. What kind of quack dentist does she have? Or is the show supposed to be set in the 1980s?
    • Coming from someone who wore braces for almost four years, it seems Reality Is Unrealistic. That said, Mabel's got a definite sweet tooth so it doesn't seem unlikely that she's the type of person who bends or breaks the rules about her braces, and, consequentially, breaks the actual braces. Things like hard candies and gum can break brackets, and that adds up to more time in braces. Plus, we don't know how misaligned Mabel's teeth were when she first got the braces (and we likely never will due to the simplified art style) and that definitely factors into how much time it spent in them.
    • Coming from another person with braces - I had them for roughly six years. No broken brackets, no real problems. I just had really crooked teeth, and a dentist who REALLY wanted to make sure my roots were set before removing them. The length someone wears braces can depend on a lot of different factors.
  • What type of pig is Waddles anyways? If he's a standard farming hog, wouldn't that mean that eventually he'll grow too big for Mabel to keep?
    • Then he's probably not. To my limited knowledge, there are several breeds of pigs that can be kept at roughly small-to-medium-dog-size as long as they're fed properly.
      • There aren't any breeds of pig that have a consistently small size, although some pigs are genetically predisposed to be smaller than others, which can still be a gamble since they haven't been bred as domestic pets for a long time period and can still end up significantly larger than expected. How big those get has to do with their genetics rather than how much they're fed, though, and extremely small pigs are usually undernourished (some breeders will suggest intentionally undernourishing them to keep them small, which can work but is obviously inhumane). Given that the pig in the show was apparently not intended to be kept as a pet, though, it seems like pigs are either smaller animals in the show's universe, or like it's probably going to be staying in the countryside when the twins leave.
  • Just what is up with Gideon's relationship with his parents? No, seriously, what happened between them? Do families like that ever happen in real life? What causes them? Why? I know this is veering close to WMG territory, but his relationship with his parents genuinely disturbs me on a level that nothing else on the show has reached as of yet. Does anyone else get what I'm getting at, or am I just a really sheltered person who's blind to the way typical dysfunctional families work?
    • Well there isn't really a typical dysfunctional family, is there? Growing up This Troper's sibling was somewhat controlling of the rest of the family, so yeah they happen, but I don't know how frequently. What happened with us was that he was spoiled rotten, then became physacally stronger than most everybody, and threw huge fits when he didn't get what he wanted. Gideon's family works in somewhat the same way, Gideon was most likely spoiled by his parents (and got money from the Tent of Telepathy), found the amulet and maybe threatened his parents with it. They would eventually learn not to piss off the little guy. Also, the Gids seems to also be kind of emotionally abusive (like manipulating) to his parents (well his mom, hence the "just keep vacuming" lines). It's kind of like the perfect storm, and with the circumstances he has he could be very controlling over his them.note note 
    • Gideon is highly intelligent, psychopathic, yet still emotionally immature. With him being the main money winner of the household, as far as he's concerned his family is nothing without him. As such, he sees it as highly insulting when his parents contradict or try to control him. (coupled with his foul temper and control freak qualities)
  • A very minor one, but what exactly would Bill call Gideon based on the wheel thingy? The obvious answer is "star," but that seems a little too simple, considering that he calls Dipper, Mabel, and Soos "Pine Tree, Shooting Star, and Question Mark" respectively, and it seems kinda dumb to call one character "Shooting Star" and another one just plain old "Star." Maybe "Stationary Star?"
    • (I also have a pet theory that the star doesn't actually represent Gideon, since Bill never once refers to him as such (he always either calls him by his name or "kid"), but even if that's true, the question still applies to whomever the star does refer.)
    • "Pentagram"?
    • It's a star, basically confirmed since Mcguket, aka Alex, called it that himself.
  • So... what the heck is Tambry's ethnicity?
    • Ambiguously Brown. There's a lot of them in Gravity Falls, possibly adding up to more diversity than you'd normally see in a small Oregon town.

     Tourist Trapped 
  • If Mabel got her lips caught in the leaf blower, how come the smooch mark appears on her right cheek?
    • Maybe she got it off her mouth but then it got stuck on her cheek?

     The Legend of the Gobblewonker 
  • If the Crazy Old Man wanted attention, why didn't he drive the mechanical monster to a place where everybody could see it? Why keep it hidden?
    • Cause then he might get caught and held accountable?
    • Or because he's, Y'know, crazy?
    • Would you pay more attention to an article about the life of a common everyday bird, or about possible Bigfoot sightings?
  • What's the timeframe for this episode, if last Family Fun Day had Dipper and Mabel with Grunkle Stan and Dipper had his new hat, but they've only been in Gravity Falls for about a week?
    • As of "Tourist Trapped", the kids have already been there for a week or two. By the time they go fishing, it's probably been close to a month.
      • Word of God says seasons 1-3 will spread over the first summer, so I'm guessing each season is about a month long, give-or-take.

     Headhunters 
  • How did the Sherlock Holmes Wax statue melt so fast when the sun came up?
    • He is also a vampire.
      • ...I'm sorry?
    • He might have been melting already and the intense heat from the sun just made the progress speed up?
    • Dipper deliberately lead him to the the "Mystery Shack" sign on the roof. The heat from the big lights illuminating the sign did most of the job.
    • Sherlock said the wax statues were cursed to come alive at night, so presumably exposure to the sun while acting alive would violate the curse and kill him.
    • It was established early in the episode that exposition to sunlight melts the statues ("I'm looking at you, wax John Wilkes Booth"), and then we learned that they only come to life during the night. Basically what should have happened is that Holmes would become just a statue and then gradually melt during the day (rooftops tend to be hotter than other places, anyway). They probably melted him so fast to have him die on-screen and avoid ambiguity.
  • How were there no prints on the axe when Dipper, Soos, AND Mabel have held it without wearing gloves throughout the episode?
    • Probably because the cops just suck at their job. I mean, didn't they just hold a flashlight up to the ax?
      • It was a blacklight, but yeah, they totally suck at their jobs.
    • Dipper said to check the extra prints, meaning exclude the ones they already knew of.
      • He didn't say "extra", he said "axe for", as in "Check the axe for prints".
    • Wool and Cotton gloves don't leave prints, just fibers. Leather Gloves leave impressions of the animal skin they're made of. Both are like a fingerprint.
      • That still doesn't answer the question. No one throughout the episode held the ax while wearing gloves.
    • Or we can just assume that Dipper meant "Check for prints that aren't ours" which would make sense in context even if he isn't outrifht saying it and that the two officers understood that and ruled out any false positives.
  • Why didn't Wax Stan come to life like the others? Wasn't he made from the remains of the melted cursed wax that used to be Wax Abraham Lincoln?
    • The implication is melted means death to them or at least breaks the curse that lets them come to life. So he couldn't come to life, cause the wax wasn't cursed any more.

    The Inconveniencing 
  • How did Mabel not get hurt from having her head turn completely around?
  • Why is there still food in the store, and how is it still properly edible? The building was condemned, likely around 1995.
    • Foods with a ton of preservatives that have been vacuum packed in plastic stay good for years. That's why they're often found in emergency kits. The thing that REALLY doesn't make sense is that the ice is still in cubes. It would've melted in the time the freezers were shut off, and re-frozen into an ice-blob when Wendy turned the power back on.
    • Haunted places don't have to obey your mortal logic and silly laws of nature. This may actually count as foreshadowing.
    • Given that the electricity still worked, there was still food and machines in the store, the chalk marks were still on the floor and the only notable damage on the place was that there was what looked like a thin layer of dust, I'd hazard a guess that the place hadn't been condemned for a couple of months. A year at best.
      • But the newspaper is dated 1995. How does this fit into your explanation?
      • Perhaps the series takes place in 1995?
      • But teenagers all have modern phones.
      • It could be an alternate 1995 where technology is a decade or two ahead.
      • They could have kicked the bucket in 1995/1996, some newspapers didn't sell and weren't replaced and gathered dust while they were alive. After they died, and the store was condemned, they used ghost magic or something to basically keep the place frozen in time, which would explain why the frozens weren't melted and the food not expired.
      • Seeing as everything worked in the store, they probably were constantly "waking the store up" to scare off other curious teenagers. On that note that may explain the other hot dogs.
      • There's also the possibility that someone at the power company put a note on their account — something like "ongoing investigation, do not cut off service" — and then nobody ever bothered to go back and finish the process.
    • Based on the fashions and "rap" music in the flashback, the shopkeepers did indeed kick off in 1995.
    • I got the impression the store was kind of stuck in time.
  • Does anyone find it weird that Robbie was never seen attacked/transformed by the ghosts?
    • It's most likely that such a scene was planned but cut for time.
      • Or he's not actually a teen, but something else with a bad attitude and pasty skin.
      • Come to think of it, if he wasn't attacked/transformed, then he would've witnessed Dipper performing "The Lamby Lamby Dance" and know that Wendy was lying about Dipper beating up ghosts.
      • Well, he does seem to know that Dipper's actually 12 years old in Fight Fighters...
  • It's safe to say that the store was closed shortly before the episode took place. Why? There is a fully functional DDR-esque machine that one of the teens was using in the store.
    • Actually, the store was closed in 1995, and the show takes place in 2012, so that's about 17 years, so no.
  • In the scene where Dipper sees Wendy, Robbie and Tambry's reflections as skeletons, Robbie's reflection isn't reversed and the stitched heart on his hoodie is missing the blood dripping from it. I'd chalk it up as an animation error, but the stitched heart on the Bill Cipher wheel is also missing the blood drops. What's up with that?
    • One of the many mysteries of Gravity Falls that has yet to be revealed? A lot of people have speculated that Robbie is some form of Undead due to him fitting both the look and description of one in the book. The fact that the creators have avoided saying what the 'V' in Robbie V stands for is also suspicious. (vampire, maybe?)
      • The episode "The Love God" has revealed that Robbie's last name is Valentino. But his parents are creepily cheerful morticians that use coffins with dead people in them as tables and joke about death and playing with corpses. There's something up with his family.

     Dipper vs. Manliness 
  • Apparently, the manotaurs have three Y chromosomes. This is meant to be a joke, but it does raise the question: How the heck do those things reproduce?!
    • Via mitosis?
      • You mean MANtosis.
      • Well, we never see any females, so maybe they are just immortal and don't need to reproduce.
      • Then where do they keep getting offerings for Leader-ar?
    • Easy, their chromosomal system is different than ours. Lots of organisms follow different inheritance rules, like birds and fruit flies and corn. Even if they're fully sapient and anthropomorphic, they're still supernatural creatures with fists for nipples, six adam's apples and pectoral muscles on their abs. Our biology already doesn't apply.
    • Being single gendered or dual gendered, either they have some form of asexual reproduction like pathenogenesis or they have sex with each other with the baby-carrier determined by some method involved with mating such as uh... private part fencing. Which is something that happens in real life with some creatures.
    • When one Manotaur becomes so manly that his manliness cannot be contained in a single being, his uncontained manliness coalesces into a second, new Manotaur.
  • So, if cutting off the head of the Multi-Bear is the final test of manliness, how did all the other Manotaurs get to become official men without performing the task themselves?
    • Maybe he used to have a lot more heads than he does now...
    • I always just assumed it was the Manotaurs being opportunistic. They have an ongoing feud for whatever reason with the multi-bear and have never been able to thwart him themselves so they send in the kid to do their dirty work for them. If he succeeds, their problem is gone. If not, they haven't lost anything really because it's just some kid they met earlier that day. I don't think anything really implies that this is the same test of manliness they give every single Manotaur, and even if they did say that it doesn't mean they weren't lying.
  • During the Training Montage, we can see Dipper and Chutzpar in town at night. This is odd because the rest of the episode implies that the events of both Mabel and Dipper parralel plots take place within a single day. In the hot spring Dipper even says "these last few hours...".
    • Unexpected solar eclipse?
    • The Manotaurs told the sun to back off, and it did.

     Double Dipper 
  • There's a party going on at the Mystery Shack, so more people than usual are there. At times, there is a clear line of sight between the dance floor and the eight Dippers. At one point, Dipper and Tyrone are standing right next to each other on the edge of the dance floor. How does nobody at the party notice this?
    • For the same reason people see multiple instances of the weirdness of Gravity Falls, and yet aren't taken away by the nice men in white coats when trying to prove it. They're used to the weirdness of the town. Or alternatively, they could have thought that Mabel was with Dipper, and that they must look enough alike to be able to pull off such a disguise.
  • The Dipper clones were perfectly willing to let themselves be dissolved, and don't find it particularly bad that they are essentially dying. Is this another hint at the sacrificial lamb thing Dipper has going on? As the clones seemed to just be a heck of a lot more fragile versions of him?
    • Maybe the clones weren't truly alive, but were just echoes of Dipper himself. Like if there were robots programed with his personality.
    • As the episode's final moments show us, the clones' vulnerability to water is such that they'd die if they drink. Assuming that they're otherwise normal human beings, that means that they know that, if nothing else kills them first, they're doomed to a horrible death by thirst within a few days anyway. They didn't mind being melted now because at least then the pain would be over quick.

     Irrational Treasure 
  • When comparing the document from the book to various sources, a chart of astrological signs is shown and the Cancer symbol isn't the usual ♋ but with a different symbol. Is this some kind of an alternate symbol?
  • Who actually made the underground treasure trove? It's implied to be Trembley, but there's also a film projector and government documents dating from the 50s. That would make him 150 when he encased himself in peanut brittle, and he doesn't look 150. Does he periodically come out of hibernation? Is he really an alchemist who discovered the secret of eternal youth? Similarly, it can't be the government who put all that stuff there, because Blubs said their mission was to find Trembley. And it can't have been the author of the journals, because he was following the clues like Dipper and Mabel were. Unless he found Trembley's resting place and put all the other stuff in there? Or is there some fourth party involved in all this that'll be revealed later on?
    • Possibly the Author of the journals, having found Trembleys resting place, but never updated the details in the journal itself.
  • I'm willing to believe that the two kids and the incompetent cops would be gullible enough to think that Trembley was still President, but... is it actually true? There's nothing in the show to acknowledge that that's completely insane. Assuming Presidents are still elected in 4-year terms in Gravity Falls' universe, how could he "still be President" hundreds of years later, just because he was missing/presumed dead for that long?
    • Well he never got to complete his term (as he was thrown out of office) but he also was never impeached (I mean you can't just throw the head of the nation out when you get bored with them), while he would no doubt be considered dead after all this time, the fact he turned out not to be puts him in a odd legal loophole, technically he could still be classed as president.
    • Brief side note is that, actually, yes, it's a legal right of the US people to kick out the president. It's not easy, but the right is there. As for Trembley's situation, surprizingly... we don't know even in real life! It wasn't until 1967 that the courts even clarified what it even meant when a vice president took over for a president. This has been invoked 3 times. However the section that covers incapacity as determined by the VP and the Cabinet (which is what happened here) has never been invoked. So you have a multi part question: how would section 4 be handled in practice, what is the status of a president who comes back out of incapacity, and what would be the legal status of a president elected BEFORE these laws were set in place. That said... either Trembley isn't president cause he was kicked out already. Or it might end up in a situation of the current president becoming 'acting' president in the stead of Trembley while Trembley would be the actual legal president. Trembley would not be given any legal rights as another preson is acting in his place and once his term was up, he would become a former president (barring reelection).

     The Time Traveler's Pig 
  • Wait, if they go back in time, shouldn't there be two Dippers and two Mabels?
    • I guessing this version of time travel works more like a reset button on a video game where it lets you relive moments of your life as oppose to traveling through time.
      • Dipper says that there's only one timeline where Wendy doesn't get hit in the eye, which means this show runs on Multiverse Theory or something similar.
    • Here's a thought. Whenever Dipper and Mabel time travelled to the fair, they displaced themselves. But when they go back to the events of the first episode, there are 2 Dippers and Mabels, so shouldn't they have displaced themselves from that point in time as well.
      • Possible explanation: Dipper and Mabel wanted to relive the day, so the time travel measuring tape displaced their selves from the original timeline. When they were running through the past back to the future toward the end, they didn't want to relive the day so they didn't displace their selves from the first episode.
      • Another possible explanation: different rules apply depending on how far back you travel. You travel to the same day (which Mabel and Dipper did, repeatedly) you displace yourself. Travel further than that, you don't.
      • Yet another explanation: There were originally two Dippers and Mabels, but they were displaced when something that was the same happened in the timeline. Although the last one shouldn't have been a displacement by this theory for Mabel, maybe just one is needed for a displacement.
  • Why doesn't Dipper just tell Wendy to...I don't know, duck for cover?
    • I assumed he did in a timeline we didn't see. Dipper repeated the day long enough to develop an algorithm of every possible variable, and the the ball ALWAYS ricochets as much as it needs to in order to hit Wendy in the eye.
  • In the original timeline, it takes until Dipper gets back with the ice for Robbie to get to Wendy. So how/why, in every other iteration, is he practically standing behind the two of them at the prize booth?
    • It was probably quicker to write it that way.
      • Probably the same reason why we never saw the ghosts in the convenience store attack/transform Robbie.
      • Also the same reason why he knows about mind-control music, and the reason why his shirt has a picture on it that appears on Bill's circle. Note also that he spends some time near the Shack, looks like a zombie, has encountered Rumble McSkirmish, and we have no idea if he managed to catch those two Dipper clones.
    • When Dipper goes back the first time, he is in a different location and has to go find Wendy. Maybe in the altered timelines Dipper throws the ball later than he originally did, so Robbie is closer to Wendy?
  • Why didn't Dipper get the ice for Wendy's eye before throwing the ball? Even if it'd seem weird to her, it would prevent Robbie from helping her recover.
    • That would've made it look like he planned for her to get hit in the eye, which would be even worse than a clearly accidental hit.
  • Why didn't Dipper and Mabel just quickly win Waddles and then do the whole "ball throwing skeptic" thing to impress Wendy.
    • Maybe the wind changed just enough in the time it would have taken them to do that. After all, there was supposedly only one universe where the trick works.
  • Why didn't either Dipper or Mabel use the magic copy machine so they could win Waddles and the stuffed animal at the same time?
    • Perhaps Dipper doesn't want to use it again after his clones went rogue.
      • Only the clones didn't go rogue. Dipper himself went rogue when he attempted to go against the plan. The clones for the most part were completely on board with doing it Dipper's way.
      • Regardless, they still caused more trouble than they were worth.
  • How come Mabel remembered the last change when she wasn't a part of it?
    • Maybe she was. Of course, that means she's now a month older than Dipper.
      • And a millimeter taller, as shown in "Little Dipper".
    • Wibbly Wobbly Timey Wimey?
    • It's cartoon logic. That's like asking "How come Wile E. Coyote can survive an explosion when in real life it would have vaporized him?"
      • Just because it's a cartoon doesn't mean it follows Looney Tunes logic. Looney Tunes is a slapstick comedy. Gravity Falls is a sitcom with fantasy and adventure elements.
      • ... and has also used slapstick violence and blatant cartoon physics.
      • Slapstick works even for live action, so I don't think that suggests regular cartoon logic. Also, what Looney Tunes style cartoon physics have actually been used (outside of blantant supernatural cases)? I have a bad eye for those things.
    • I thought Mabel immune to the changes because she'd time travelled in the first place.
    • RE: Example of Looney Physics. When learning how to be a man Dipper jumps a gorge and lands on the other side, only to comically knock himself back into a ravine so deep the bottom can't be seen. Next scene he's right back to training.
    • Mabel remembered all the other instances, though, so the last thing she'd remember is Dipper being a jerk about her losing Waddles. It's an easy logical jump from there to "the day's been reset again, Dipper must've stopped being a jerk."
  • Why did Mabel even need to be there to tilt the gutter? Couldn't Dipper have propped it up to that angle ahead of time?
    • There might not have been enough time or maybe the gutter couldn't have remained propped up without someone holding it.
    • It's widely considered that Mabel has some powerful nature she doesn't know about. Among these unknown powers... the ability to manipulate time instead of following destiny, Dipper states that she was the missing variable after all.
  • Or, alternatively, why did Mabel wait around until after the ball finished flying? She had plenty of time to get down from the roof and get Waddles but instead she just stands behind Dipper for a bit.
    • Considering there's only one universe in which Wendy doesn't get hit, maybe Mabel's position is absolutely critical to... wind direction or something.
    • Well Mabel didn't know that Pacifica was going to win Waddles, so she wasn't in a rush.
  • Why didn't they win Waddles, go back in time with him, and make sure Wendy never got hit by the ball?
    • Perhaps the pig farmer would have noticed he was short one pig, leading to even more complications in the timeline?
  • Why didn't Dipper just try and block Robbie or Blendin? If they weren't close to Wendy, or Robbie didn't have a snowcone, then Dipper could get the ice.
    • Messing with Robbie or Blendin would lead to a confrontation, which would make him lose his chance with Wendy.

     Fight Fighters 
  • Why didn't Dipper just use his Manotaur training and open up a can of whoop-ass on Robbie?
    • Maybe his fighting style is specific to giant monsters?
      • Well, it seemed to work just fine against Gideon in the season finale...
      • Dipper opening a can of whoop-ass on Gideon was more of a "parents can lift cars if their kid's under them" thing—some of what he did was learned, but a lot of it was just pure adrenaline over Mabel's kidnapping. Fighting with Robbie is never gonna have that same visceral quality to it, as there's really nothing Robbie can do to him comparable to abducting his sister and best friend. (Or maybe I'm overthinking it and Dipper's just had more time to practice the manotaur stuff over the course of the season than he has in the relatively scant episodes between "Dipper vs. Manliness" and this one.)
      • Gideon is also nine.
    • Dipper can show a lot of guts in a crisis and likely is pretty good in a fight, but he is not fond of violence. Fighting a monster is a lot different from fighting another human, and I can't help but feel Dipper would hold back and get curbstomped if the fight actually went down.
  • At one point, Dipper comments that Robbie posts a really annoying amount of status updates. If Dipper and Robbie aren't friends, why would Dipper be following him to even know that?
    • He spends time with Wendy, she shows him, or checking out the competition.

     Little Dipper 
  • Okay, this one is kinda complicated, but I'll do my best: In the opening of the episode, it's made completely clear that the only reason Gideon wanted the Mystery Shack in the first place is to inflict as much pain as possible on them to exact his revenge. He was entirely alone, so he can't have been lying or making up excuses. However, by the end of the episode, he apparently now wants it because it contains something that he wants. So...when exactly did this happen? The only way he could have changed his mind would be if he had discovered something about the Mystery Shack that he wanted during his excursion to obtain it, and unless I missed something, he didn't. So, what happened?
    • Maybe it's because of the book? Dipper doesn't show it to him, but Gideon seems to be suspicious.
    • Well, Gideon has his own book, he could have seen said secret there somewhere in-between scenes. And he could have been motivated by both, both pain and destruction and the secret. It's possible he just focused more on the "pain" part because he's completely batshit insane.
      • I was mostly referring to this one scene where Gideon asks Dipper, "Did you read about it in a book?" And considering that his is number 2, he's aware that there are more books, and it's quite likely that he wants the other books too. Dipper didn't answer the question, which Gideon possibly interpreted as a confirmation.
    • Veering into WMG territory Gideon's book may have clues or details on what Grunkle Stan is hiding under the Shack. We know that Stan and Gideon have been antagonistic for a while so this may not necessarily be a new revelation in universe, but rather the first time this has been presented to the audience.
      • Maybe it has something to do with Stan's room behind the vending machine.
      • Confirmed. In Gideon Rises, Book 2 has pages concerning possible hiding places for the other Books. Most of them seem to involve the Mystery Shack.

    Summerween 
  • The copy machine was never destroyed. Why not just copy up 499 pieces of candy?
    • Would YOU want the Summerween Trickster to catch you cheating? I don't see that ending well...
    • Whatever type of ink the copy machine uses, it probably won't taste like candy. Not that the Summerween Trickster is a stranger to bad candy, but ink is just pushing it.
  • Why was Dipper so obsessed with getting to the party and so opposed to trick-or-treating, when a monster who just ate a different child right in front of him was planning to eat him too if he didn't collect enough candy in time?
    • The power of love blinding his judgment?
  • Why didn't they just buy the candy? The only reason was that Mabel said it would be more fun to Trick-or-Treat, but they could still Trick-or-Treat and ensure they wouldn't get eaten if they did just buy the candy.
    • Because, again, would you want the Summerween Trickster to catch you cheating? It was never about the candy. It was about the spirit of Summerween. The Trickster was forcing them into Trick or Treat or Die because it was offended by Dipper's lack of Summerween spirit, and just running out to buy the candy would only have offended him further.

    Boss Mabel 
  • How did Dipper manage to capture the goblin-thing? He's a twelve year old boy, and he overpowered a giant monster. HOW!?
    • The same way he overpowered the Multi-Bear?
  • Why did the book state that the Grem-Goblin was weak to water when it clearly made the monster more dangerous?
    • Because it didn't, in fact, say that it was the Gremoblin's weakness. Dipper had to turn the page to see that it was warning against using water on it. He even points out how odd it's wording was.
    • I'll add the quote:
    Dipper: "'Uh, got it! When fighting a gremloblin, use water...'"
    [Mabel runs out and splashes it with water as Dipper turns the page]
    Dipper: "'...only as a last resort as water will make him much much scarier!' AH! Who writes sentences like that!?"
  • Who exactly was watching the twins while Stan was on vacation? The only other adult in the Mystery Shack is Soos, who doesn't live there and isn't exactly a qualified caretaker.
    • Mabel. That was kind of the point of their bet.

    Bottomless Pit! 
  • Did they come out from the same hole because of some unexplained magic bullshit, because they fell so far gravity was sending them back the way they came, or something else?
    • It's suppose to be mysterious like that.
  • Wait a second. The ending shows that if you fall down the hole you'll just fall back out the entrance and no time will have elapsed from when you fell in. Plus, Stan has been throwing unwanted stuff in the hole for a while. If that's the case should he have just kept seeing the stuff fall back out almost immediately after throwing them in?
    • It's purpose may actually be as a supernatural garbage disposal, so anything alive may just be spat back out.
  • Pretty sure it's because Mabel's story was the only one that was true, and thus the truth set them free. It was the last story right before they escaped. Grunkle Stan may have started confessing to no one after being convinced he was going to fall forever. The objects can't really talk, so they just fall forever. Got the "truth" thing from the Fridge Brilliance page on TV Tropes.
    • Maybe it was when he said 'this is stupid'.
  • If no time passed since when they fell down the hole, and when they were spat back out, why isn't it still stormy outside?
    • ...Magic?
  • Somehow, if (living?) things that go in the pit come out instantly, why did Grunkle Stan not come up after he fell in?

    The Deep End 
  • Why was Mabel so determined not to let Dipper find out about the merman until she was practically forced to tell him?
    • Because Mermando told Mabel that his kind must not be seen.
  • How the heck did Mermando get home so quickly? When Mabel receives his bottle-messages, it's obviously the same day—Stan discovers he was glued to the pool chair, Dipper gets fired, Mabel's wearing the same sweater, etc—which means Mermando had to have somehow gotten home in the span of a few hours. The problem with that being Mermando lives in the Gulf of Mexico, and Oregon is on the other side of the United States!
    • Probably the same way he was able to get those bottle messages to Mabel so quickly. Which is also unexplained.
    • Maybe merpeople acquire special powers with experience and/or age, so once he was able to contact his family with the megaphone, they could magically transport him and the bottles.
    • Maybe they're just really fast swimmers. Aquaman is fast enough to swim up waterfalls.

    Carpet Diem 
  • With the message of "Stan is not what he seems." in mind, his seemingly innocent moment of tempting fate about secret rooms becomes something more. Did he want them to find that room? He immediately took what looked like a pair of glasses and hid them from view, these never become relevant in the episode. Or was he perhaps wanting them to search for other hidden rooms?...Did he want them to find whatever the hell he has behind the snack machine?
    • The glasses could become relevant in a later episode.

  • Did they forget that there is an empty room where the wax figures used to be?
    • Would you want to live in a room where you killed formerly alive and CURSED wax figures who's souls may still haunt the room? I would like to keep my head while I'm sleeping, or at least wake up in the morning, thank you very much.
    • The shag carpeting is obviously a dealbreaker.
    • There's new attractions in the Mystery Shack all the time; I could easily see Grunkle Stan having already filled the wax figure room with more new attractions and rendering it no longer empty.

  • Just...what is the Mystery Shack? It has all of these secret rooms, and multiple instances of working magical/futuristic objects. Are they even trying to hide that Stan knows way more than he is letting on?
    • I don't think they're trying to hide it so much as they're playing it down for the time being. Letting it simmer in the background, as it were. The question isn't so much whether the man has secrets as it is what those secrets entail.
  • Why didn't Dipper use the President's key to get in? It seems to fall under many other cases of Aesop Amnesia , like about why the copier hasn't been used either.
    • Does Dipper even believe that the key works? He got it from Quentin Trembley. Who was confused on why it wouldn't work on a wall. Hell, does it even work on every lock? We won't know for sure until they use it. Also, Grunkle Stan would probably count it as cheating. (Which just might impress him, but Dipper doesn't know that.)
      • He knew it worked when they freed Stan in that same episode.
    • Who says they even still have the key? It certainly looked like Mabel gave it to the gremloblin in Boss Mabel for his "five minute break." Perhaps the creature still has it (or ate it), or it was lost in the destruction, or whatever.

  • One of Dipper's first reactions to trading bodies with Mabel is to mess with the goofy little cowlicks on the crown of her head and mutter "what are these things?" But we've seen plenty of scenes of Dipper without his hat that show he has the same cowlick, as does Stan— so why does he act like it's news to him?

    Boyz Crazy 
  • How exactly did Robbie find out about that mind control song in the first place?
    • There are a number of possibilities. He could've just heard it from someone else, or read about it.
    • He could have been telling the truth about ripping it off of some other guy.
    • Backwards subliminal messages in songs ("backmasking") aren't exactly a new idea. A teenage metal fan like Robbie could easily have heard of it and decided to give it a try. Given that he has his own band, he'd probably have the audio editing equipment/software to make it himself.
    • Uh... Internet?

  • Why is Stan so obsessed with the apocalypse in this episode? Is it just Stan being Stan? Or is this one of the situations where we should consider the message "STAN IS NOT WHAT HE SEEMS?"
    • I'm sure we'll find out soon enough.
  • Boy bands as depicted in this episode. Are they still relevant? I mean, we have sensations like fun. and such, but these guys look like the 90s boy bands. Is this just a Disney thing though? I feel like the Disney Channel has an odd fixation on them.
    • Dipper comments that the group was "ten years too late". It's also a sort of gift from Alex Hirsch to his sister, a '90s preteen/teen who was obsessed with boy bands and with Lance Bass in particular.
    • I think Disney has a bit of a business fielding teen pop idols, a la the Mickey Mouse Club, so it's relevant to them.
    • They aren't that irrelevant ya know, BTR is kind of a thing.
      • There's also that whole One Direction thing going on.
    • It's an "Ariel Hirsch really really really wanted to meet Lance Bass" thing.

    Land Before Swine 
  • Why does Mabel's face look different in this episode?
    • Looked the same to me.
  • In the scene where Dipper's developing the photos, Soos opens the door, accidentally exposing the print while it's still in the developer. This causes dipper to freak out at Soos for destroying their "evidence." While his initial reaction is understandable, once he came to his senses, couldn't he just make another print from the same negative (which would have already been developed and fixed)?
    • He's a smart 12-going-on-13 year old kid. He probably didn't know, or they ran out of chemicals, and he knows how cheap Stan is. Or maybe the negative was fragile(maybe it was in the light), again, cheap Stan buys cheap stuff.
  • Do Stan's glasses have no lenses? In Stan's story, the pterodactyl pokes him in the eyes through his glasses. This might just be him not thinking his story through, but another pair of Stan's glasses found in Carpet Diem are also in the book. If the page shown in the opening is actually in the book. Is there something with Stan's glasses that has to do with the bigger mystery of Gravity Falls?
    • Anything ridiculous that happened in that scene can be ascribed to "Stan was making it up as he went along". Remember his story in Bottomless Pit? The man's a crap storyteller. That's all.
  • At the end, Dipper shows that the dinosaur slashed through his vest. When did that happen?
    • It was a quick moment that happened after the scene with Stan punching the dinosaur in the face when they were being chased but his vest did get bitten. It could almost qualify as blink and you'll miss with how quick it was.

    Dreamscaperers 
  • Does Stan not actually remember anything about Bill Cipher? Is he not actually acting when he refuses to acknowledge the weirdness of Gravity Falls?
    • They only mentioned a Bill in his presence. That could be anyone.
  • Why does Bill Cipher act...a lot like Stan?
    • How does he act like Stan?
      • His general attitude is reminiscent of how Stan acts. To this troper at least.
  • If Stan hates Dipper then why the heck did Mr. and Mrs. Pines send Dipper and Mabel to Stan's house for the Summer in the first place?
    • He doesn't hate Dipper. They established that in Carpet Diem at the latest.
    • Did you watch the episode all the way to the end?
    • The better question is: Why the hell did Dipper think Stan hated him when a mere two episodes ago (and remember, each season takes place as one month of summer, so this HAD to have happened recently) Stan supported Dipper all the way through in Boyz Crazy in his plot to bust Robbie? Sure, I'd be pretty torn down too if someone said something like what Dipper heard from Stan (before listening to the whole conversation), but before that, it looks like Dipper would rather have Bill invade Stan's mind and cause him unknown amounts of mental torture, also causing Gideon to receive the Mystery Shack, AKA his crush's and his only friend in Gravity Falls' paycheck, as well as he and his sister's HOUSE FOR THE NEXT SEVERAL MONTHS all because Stan gives him a lot of chores and acts a little pushy.
    • I don't think before the Eavesdropping Dipper was planning to not help Stan just that he was reluctant. The reluctance is a little more justifiable when you remembered that Stan is often quick ti make fun of him ("Little Dipper") and appears to show Mabel favoritism at times ("Carpet Diem"). Also, it's pretty normal for any of us to have those moments where we question whether our loved one truly care for us be it a family member or friend.
    • Also, keep in mind that the "chores" Stan is implied to regularly give Dipper aren't exactly the "take out the garbage, do the dishes" type normal teenagers sometimes whine about - they're horrifying, incredibly demanding, and often life-threatening, and Dipper is 12!
  • Would Gideon stealing the deed to the Mystery Shack actually work out on a legal sense? Should he succeed in getting the deed, there's no proof he got it fairly nor legally.
    • Plus, a deed is not assignable. Meaning that since it still has Stan's name on it, Gideon does not own the property until his name is on the deed. In other words, the others are not trespassers. Do your homework next time Alex Hirsch.
    • Yeah, but the police in Gravity Falls are both highly incompetent, and corrupt. And they're fans of Gideon.
    • While it wouldn't work in a legal sense there's nothing to say that Gideon wouldn't use his journal to convince everyone else otherwise.
    • According to Alex Hirsch, it's because Quentin Trembly put the "Finders Keepers" law into effect, which pretty much means if someone steals something from you, it's theirs legally.
      • Here's the quote from his AMA on the Gravity Falls Reddit: "Since the town was founded by a mayor who was legally insane (Quentin Trembley the Third, Esquire) its arcane charter laws are equally insane. Woodpecker marriage is legal. The 'Finders Keepers' law allows whoever holds a physical deed to own that property (created by Trembley as an experiment to create a new form of government called "GimmieOcracy") and children can legally be sent to ADULT PRISON."
  • What did Soos mean by "the infinite horizon"?
    • He was just waxing poetic.
      • Like trying to lick your elbow now matter how hard you try to "reach" the horizon. it keeps moving away from you. seemingly infinitely distant from you. Or something like that
  • Why didn't Bill just attack Gideon to get what he wanted? Are you seriously telling me that an omnipotent demon just got screwed out of his Deal with the Devil by some snot nosed little brat who got away from it scot-free? Bill wastes his time attacking the Pines Family (and Soos...and Xyler, and Kraz) instead of just beating the hell out of Gideon who has exactly what he needs. It legitimately seemed that Gideon could have screwed Bill out of the deal at any minute-as long as Bill was distracted, Gideon could easily just blow up the safe (which is exactly what he did) and get the deed without paying Bill back at all.
    • Because he, for some reason, needed to make a deal. It's fairly standard with demons and extradimensional beings. Whatever he wanted, he couldn't just take it, which is why the book said "do not make a deal with him."
    • We have no idea what Bill wants though. The only thing that's clear at this point he has some sort of agenda against Stan and Gideon could have helped him to whatever end that is. He may have also been grateful to Gideon for summoning him back to Gravity Falls so he may have felt charitable enough to go along with the ride since it was anti-Stan.
    • We've only seen Bill within the realm of the dream, and when he was summoned, during which everything went gray and time stopped. As mentioned in the WMG, when Bill left after being summoned, all who saw the summoning appeared to be waking up. Outside of dreams, Bill might not have any power at all, shoot, maybe he can't even go outside the dream world at all.
      • As of Sock Opera, it can be assumed that Bill only has influence in the black-and-white Planescape.
  • On a similar note, why the hell is Gideon's "Plan A" summoning a DEMON when he had dynamite all along? It seems a lot less dangerous and more straightforward just to blow up the safe instead of making a Deal with the Devil.
    • I was wondering about that as well, and then I remembered that for most people "hindsight is 20/20". Gideon probably thought of Plan B RIGHT after he summoned Bill to do the dirty work, and probably realized that it was simpler. Alternatively, he was pulling a Xanatos Gambit; by summoning Bill he would either get the code or Bill would keep Stan's subconscious distracted while Gideon broke into the safe.
  • Why does everyone keep thinking Bill tampered with Stan's memories? There's nothing going against the "Stan knows everything" theory. The probably just looked in the wrong doors.
    • The fact that Bill knew Stan makes it clear they had a connection. Stan, however, made it pretty clear he had no idea what anyone was talking about when Bill's name came up. The theory is that Bill made Stan forget about him, Stan was lying, or they've never met and Bill just knows of Stan.
      • As stated above, Bill is a common enough name, so we can assume he didn't know they were talking about that specific Bill.
  • Where was Stan's hat when they woke up?
    • It probably came off while Stan was asleep.
  • How come the moon symbol thingy also changed to a Pac-Man symbol...thingy on the big circle? Up until now I thought Stan was just wearing a different hat.
    • I'm pretty sure that each symbol on the circle represents a character. Bill even calls Dipper, Mabel and Soos pine tree, shooting star, and question mark, respectively. So when Stan's symbol changed on his hat, it changed on the circle too.
    • As Alex Hirsch revealed in the SDCC Gravity Falls Panel (sort of, he uses the Most Distracting Object whenever someone asks a spoiler-y question), it's not an animation error. It'll most likely be significant in future episodes.
  • I'm not sure deeds work like that, Gideon. Just because you break into someone's house and steal a piece of paper doesn't give you permission to tear it down literally 2 minutes later.
    • The fact he owns the town is probably the only way he can get away with it.
      • Stan brings this up in "Gideon Rises" and Gideon replies with something like "Stan gave me the deed" and this somehow easily fools Sheriff Blubs as he replies, "Well that's all the proof I need to see!"
    • It's also worth considering that a "steal the deed" plot is a pretty widely used plot in comedy series and it always is played as "if I'm holding the deed, I own the thing" regardless of how things work in the real world.
    • To quote Alex Hirsch: "Since the town was founded by a mayor who was legally insane (Quentin Trembley the Third, Esquire) its arcane charter laws are equally insane. Woodpecker marriage is legal. The 'Finders Keepers' law allows whoever holds a physical deed to own that property (created by Trembley as an experiment to create a new form of government called "Gimmie Ocracy") and children can legally be sent to ADULT PRISON."
  • For the record: is this episode called "Dreamscapers" or "Dreamscaperers"?
    • "Dreamscaperers".
  • I understand that Alex Hirsch likes for actions to have consequences, and the Mystery Shack being full-on demolished would be impossible for the characters to bounce back from. But from a Watsonian perspective, it doesn't seem like there's any reason for Gideon to just punch a massive hole in the roof and then leave the Shack standing. Either he needs it in tact, or he needs it demolished. There's no sense in going halfsies like that.
    • It wouldn't really have the same effect on them if he didn't destroy part of it. After all, that scene is pretty intense to viewers like us, and to us, it's just a drawing on a screen. Think of how crushing that would be to the Pines'.
      • Huh. Y'know, Gideon's desire for the book so completely dominated his characterization in this episode and the next one, I guess I kinda forgot that he occasionally just does things to spite the Pines. Still, if Dipper had left the book in his room, Gideon would've pretty much been screwed—and if he knew for certain the book wasn't in there, why not just completely destroy the place to really crush them? Again, it seems like it should be an all-or-nothing deal.
    • I think he put the hole in the roof to be spiteful, but hasn't had time to search the Shack thoroughly for its secrets and intends to do so after the town accepts his ownership. In Gideon Rises we confirm that both journal number 1 and Stan's strange machinery are hidden under the shack and apparently weren't found by Gideon; we know Gideon expected to find journal number 1 and probably suspected other clues as well so he wouldn't want to completely destroy the shack until after a thorough search.

    Gideon Rises 
  • How did Gideon know about McGucket and his proficiency at making robots?
    • Judging by the episode's events, it's probably because, as Stan revealed, Gideon had set up cameras everywhere in town, one of which must have caught wind of McGucket's confession in episode 2.
      • Was Gideon actually using cameras then, though? He still would have had the amulet back then, so he didn't need to spy on people to trick people into thinking he's "psychic."
      • Fridge Brilliance: The amulet gives him telekinesis, not telepathy. He has to trick people into thinking he's psychic because he isn't. That's why he has such an awful rivalry with Stan: they're both con men.
      • Even if he didn't hear the episode 2 confession via camera, nothing's to say that Old Man McGucket stopped making robots in between then and now.
  • What the hell could Stan be building a super weapon for? Is this the same reason Gideon wanted the books?
    • Who said the device was a super weapon? At this point it could be practically anything. Also given that Stan needed all three journals just to activate it it's more likely the device was there before Stan owned the property.
      • Dipper said that it looked like some sort of super-weapon when he found the pages in Journal 3.
    • A Freeze-Frame Bonus code in the book suggests it's some kind of portal.
  • How does Wendy still not realize Dipper has a crush on her immediately after Soos blares it out and covers up it it rather poorly? Hell, he even says "Nailed it!" within earshot of her! Wendy has to be playing dumb at this point.
    • Because it's Soos. They're all probably used to him saying weird things. All the time.
    • I get the idea she's known since The Inconveniencing. She doesn't say anything about it because, well, she's Wendy. She wouldn't go out of her way to hurt the poor kid's pride.
    • I'm pretty sure Wendy knows, just look her expression at the end of The Inconveniencing when Dipper couldn't help express his happiness when Wendy talks about hanging out with him at the Shack next time.
      • Indeed, "Into the bunker" reveals that she already know.
  • Any particular reason Gideon had his father take one chunk out of the shack in the previous episode and then leave it up for all of this one? If he thought the journal was in the shack, why would he do that if, for all he knew, he could have just destroyed the part it was in?
    • He thought it was underground, around the shack. Also, he only destroyed the sign, and the part of the roof the sign was attached to. I think.
    • Still, (Rule of Drama aside) you can't help but wonder why he had him take one chunk out of it and then leave it standing for a whole other episode.
    • Because he wanted to show the Pines that he has defeated them. by destroying part of the shack he was bassically saying "your house is my toy to do with it what i want". Bassically, it was a Kick the Dog moment For the Evulz.
  • We know why Stan acts surprised to learn about Dipper's journal—to make Dipper think it's of no real value. If Stan was looking for journals, why didn't he take #3 after Irrational Treasure, when Dipper clearly consulted it right in front of him at Pioneer Day?
    • Stan is never on screen while Dipper is consulting the journal and only reappears after Dipper has put it away. Most likely Stan was too distracted by his hatred of Pioneer Day to notice that Dipper was reading it at all.
    • Alternatively, he might have just thought it was better with someone who was better equipped to defend it should someone like Gideon come for it. He knows how old he is, and what he is capable of. Dipper on the other hand, is young, eager to learn, and a hell of a lot more agile than Stan.
      • I'm sorry, which one of them punched a freakin' pterodactyl?
    • Plausiable deniability. Stan was also trying to protect the twins. Just taking it away without any reason would just cause them to be more curious.
  • How did Gideon get his hands on Waddles, or Mabel not noticing Waddles was missing in the first place until the unveiling of Gideonland, despite appearing to have had the time to pack her sweaters?
    • They might have had to leave him behind, with the understanding that nothing would happen to him.
  • Why did Gideon seem to just consider having Mabel as his queen when she was in his grasp, and not before she left?
    • It's easier to make someone do something when they're in your giant robot hand.
  • Why would the writer of the journals put a map of possible hiding locations for the other journals when he wants to keep them separate (or at least that's what we get out of Gideon)? The writer knew he couldn't go back for the journals since he believed he was being watched and that would no doubt give them away, so what was the point of a map? He might as well have just put up a sign saying "Dig here, dummy!" Also when would he have the time to draw 3 separate maps in such detail? He feels like he's being watched but screw urgency! He's got to make things easier for a possible evildoer who could easily abuse the journals for ultimate power!
    • First of all the final entries in Dipper's book suggest there was a big gap between the maps and the author's fear of someone stalking them. It is possible the map was made so he/she could study possible locations where to hide the journals but never wrote his/her final decision. The map wasn't made to led you to the hiding place but to help the author to decide the hiding place. that is why it was so hard for Gideon to find the other journals(assuming he had the second book long before Dipper got the third one), they only described possible places were you could hide the journal. On the other hand, since he/she didn't destroy the journals when he/she had the chance, it is possible he/she decided the books were too important to be lost and he/she left vague descriptions of where to find the others and hope they fell in the right hands in case something happened to him/her.
  • Where are we going to put stuff for Dipper's Guide to the Unexplained? I mean, it's a mini-series. Are we just keeping it on the Gravity Falls page with seperate folders, or...?
    • Probably

    Mabel's Guide to Life 
  • Pacifica has been established as hating Mabel, she even throws darts at her picture. So why did she take part in Mabel's color quiz?
    • Maybe Mabel paid her? As for why she would pay her archenemy, maybe it's just in her optimistic nature to be totally nice to people.
    • Vanity. Mabel was recording it, Pacifica loves people paying attention to her, no matter who's watching.
    • Also, subsequent episodes (particularly "Northwest Manor Mystery" ) have shown that Pacifica is not as nasty and mean as she appears to be. Her participation could have been a subconscious desire to befriend Mabel.

    Scaryoke 
  • Why would the author of the journals put the spell to raise the dead in plain ink, and then put zombies' weakness in invisible ink? Shouldn't it be the reverse?
    • The plain ink doesn't mention weaknesses, but the invisible ink says that the author's just discovered some, so I think the implication is that he wrote the invisible ink stuff after the rest of the book (presumably to keep whoever was watching him from finding any subsequent updates.)
      • Sure enough, there's a brief moment when the invisible ink is revealed you see a message saying basically "I've decided to switch to invisible to further keep my secrets safe" everything in invisible ink is clearly later updates.
    • My point is, if he was assuming the books might fall into someone else's hands, why would he make the method of stopping zombies harder to find than the method of raising zombies? The latter is clearly what needs to be more well-hidden, while the former is what clearly needs to be less hidden.
      • Perhaps by that point The Author no longer trusted anyone with the knowledge he was collecting and decided to keep it in a place only he would be able to find it? He may have hoped the zombies would wipe out anyone who found the journal

    Into the Bunker 
  • So, if it turned out that "the Author" was really the shapeshifter, then what was he fighting in the shadow when we first saw him?
    • Himself. He's a shapeshifter. He was putting on a shadow puppet show for Dipper and Wendy so they'd trust him.
      • Or it was some other creature the shapeshifter was genuinely fighting against, and just decided to lure it near Dipper and Wendy so they'd be more likely to trust him. We don't actually know what happened, and we won't know what happened until we get Word of God on this. But I'm gonna lean toward some other creature. Something made those holes.
      • Mole men.

    Golf War 
  • Pacifica mentions that her family took care of the whole "her family is a fraud" thing with money. Why would they need money? Dipper handed all the evidence right to them! All they would need is a few quarters to buy a matchbook. (Or however much those things cost now)
    • She wasn't saying they payed to cover it up, she meant as long as they were still rich and powerful her ancestor being a fraud wasn't that big a deal.

    Sock Opera 
  • Why was Bill able to cheat Dipper out of his end of the bargain in this episode? In Dreamscaperers, Gideon was able to break the deal when Bill couldn't hold up his end, but in this one, not only does Bill not even give Dipper the promised code after it'd be useless, but he gets his reward right off the bat! What changed?
    • Unlike Gideon, who made a very specific and clear demand before they shook on it, Dipper never actually asks Bill to do anything. Bill loads the conversation with promises and implications, probably so Dipper will make assumptions about the terms of the deal and not realize that he hasn't actually ASKED for anything. Essentially, the only deal they ended up making was: "I want a puppet." "Ok sure."
    • It's unlikely Gideon has gotten out of his deal anyways. Bill mentioned to Gideon they'd work out the details later so Bill is probably biding his time until he needs Gideon for whatever thing he has planned.
      • "You fools! Do you realize what you've cost me!?" Yeah. It definitely sounds like Bill still has what he needs from this arrangement.
    • He did hold up his end of the bargain. He promised to give Dipper a hint. When he broke the laptop, Mcgucett's name is shows for a brief second which is found by Mabel in the blind eye society episode.
    • Well, my guess is Gideon was able to call off the deal because he had something Bill wanted. In this episode, Dipper already gave Bill what he wanted, so Bill was free to double-cross him. If Gideon had held up his end of the bargain first in Dreamscaperers, I'm pretty sure Bill would have betrayed him without hesitation.
    • In a Q&A session, Hirsch mentioned that despite deals being important, Bill is not necessarily inclined or obligated to honor the terms, which is why it is a bad idea to make a deal with him in the first place.
  • When sock puppet Dipper shows up floating next to Mabel, it's made clear that "ghost" Dipper inhabited the sock puppet just like Bill did with Dipper's body, as shown by the mouth and arm movements of the puppet. But then, when Gabe enters the room, we see Dipper using the sock puppet with his hand. When Gabe leaves, he goes back to the mouth and arm movements.
    • I'm going to guess no one could hear him unless he moved a "vessel" along with what he wanted to say, neither Mabel nor Gabe ever seem to notice his shouting and groaning when Mabel twisted his arm.
    • It was all done with his hand. Dipper's just hamming it up to get his emotions across.
  • Why couldn't Wendy and Soos hear Bill taunt Dipper in the car? Are we just chalking that up to Bill's powers?
    • Maybe they just assumed he was acting weird due to sleep deprivation.
  • Maybe it's just that we don't know the full story of Bill Cipher's big plans and probably won't until "Not What He Seems" but Dipper was nowhere near finding the laptop password; it's not until much later that he learns McGucket built and can fix the computer, revealing the apocalypse. WHY does it matter to Bill that the laptop and journal are destroyed if Dipper was nowhere close to finding answer? Was this a big Batman Gambit on Bill's part to lead Dipper to McGucket or what?
    • Dipper having both the laptop and the third journal (alongside newfound knowledge of the invisible ink entries) gives him some chance of interfering with whatever Bill's waiting for too early. The fact that he's been reduced to entering in random passwords to access the laptop doesn't render it harmless, it just Bill has no way of knowing if or when Dipper will stumble on the right combo to get all the laptop's secrets. If there's one thing schemers hate, it's an unpredictable element. So Bill waited until sleep deprivation and obsession weakened Dipper's resolve enough to make him vulnerable to Bill making a deal. Using Dipper's body to destroy the laptop and, if he'd succeeded, the journals, would have slowed Dipper enough to keep the plan on track.

    Soos and the Real Girl 
  • So you can see when soos pauses the game the button only has 2 buttons...what does the other one do and for that matter of fact how do you control a game with one button and a pause button!?
    • For those who have played visual novels and dating sims, at the very most you'll only ever need your mouse pointer, left and right clicks, and possibly the wheel scroll. The "gameplay" of these types of games hardly ever goes deeper than "click to advance text," especially for a game that appears to have been made in the 90's to early 2000's. Most visual novels have left clicking essentially function as an "A" button with the right click functioning as a "B" button, and oddly enough they do have controller support. Two buttons and a directional pad would literally be everything that he'd need to play the game. Because of the varying control schemes in visual novels, the right click or "B" button might have very well acted as a pause button in the game.
  • So some programmers accidentally create a fully functioning AI from the code of a dating sim that doesn't want to destroy the world, or kill anyone she doesn't consider a threat, and they just decide to delete her? You'd think a group of programmers able to accidentally create an AI would be just a bit smarter. What gives?
    • Well, what else were they supposed to do? They tried to delete her and before they could do anything else, she "deleted" them.
      • They could not delete the newly born intelligence on a whim. Honestly, she was probably fully morally in the right to "delete" those trying to kill her. It kinda seems like self-defense.
      • That isn't a whim, that was the smartest thing anyone has ever done in fiction faced with that situation. Unless the AI is an evolving AI that can adapt what it learns from its life, it needs it's limits hard-coded into it so it doesn't hurt people. Giffany is a dating sim AI, games that are notorious for the characters becoming obsessed with the player character (Soos in this case) and manipulative to keep you on their route. Basically Giffany never deviated from her Dating Sim coding which made her a danger if she was a Tsundere archtype character.
      • Of course, we don't see the reason they decided to delete her. Judging by how she went on a murderous rampage when she was rejected, something probably happened that made them realize they had created a monster. Evil AIs that can possess stuff and threaten people if they don't get what they want are not to be taken lightly.
      • Maybe she killed them without provocation, or at least, without any more provocation than the other people she's attacked.
    • Given that Giffany is prone to possessive jealousy and has shown homicidal tendencies alongside the ability to control machines, why would any sane programmer allow her to continue living? Sure, making an AI from nothing is an amazing achievement worthy of study, but this one was, at best, a psychopath: she has no empathy and absolutely no hesitation with taking lives. Reasoning with her does nothing but intensify her attacks. After discovering this, narrowly avoiding sending out potentially millions of copies of this monstrosity, deleting the program is the obvious choice. It's just too bad that she was even worse than her designers feared.
  • So was Giffany genuinely in love with Soos, or did she only want him so she can exist for as long as possible? Just from watching the episode it seems like the former, but a lot of people keep talking like it's the latter. So which is it?
    • The former; I don't get where people are getting the latter from.
    • "Love" needs air quotes in this context. Love is not threatening innocent people if you don't get your way, and if you think that it is, remind me to never date you. She was obsessed with Soos, but I wouldn't say she loved him as a person.
    • There's also the fact that she's a dating sim character. She may be a very capable AI, but she still is programmed to be a love interest to the person playing. Whether this counts as love, "love", or not love, well, who knows.
    • Giffany straight up said, "I'm programmed to find everything you say interesting." She wasn't interested in Soos for himself, it was just because he was the current player.
    • Giffany is capable of possessive, abusive attachment to her players, not real love. Love requires empathy, patience, and selflessness. Three things that Giffany showed no evidence of. If she was self aware enough for her emotions to carry real weight, then she was nothing more than a psychopath with sparkly eyes.
  • The ominous act break of the unplugged computer is just baffling. How did it boot up and install Romance Academy without power? For that matter, how does throwing the game disc into a fire delete the program after it's installed? Is it magic? Because it's never said to be.

     Little Gift Shop of Horrors 
  • In the episode there's a gag where a store clerk throws a dozen eggs at Stan. According to him this is a common game they play but, the thing is, he threw those eggs at him all at once. Even if Stan still had his hand how would he have been able to catch those eggs?
    • Maybe the goal is just to see how many eggs Stan can stop from hitting him/the floor. And without his hands, he couldn't catch any of them, making him look like a complete fool in the eyes of the guy he's apparently really friendly with.
    • Maybe he didnīt expect Stan to catch them and the game is just them throwing eggs at each other.

     Society of the Blind Eye 
  • We see seven members of the Society get defeated, but there are clearly at least ten of them in other scenes. Where are the others?
  • Now that the Society is effectively disbanded, will the masquerade around the supernatural occurrences surrounding Gravity Falls finally break?
    • There probably isn't actually a masquerade to begin with. The only memories taken away were the ones the society, a very small group, could find out other people know about. Dipper, Mabel, Soos, and Wendy have all known about this stuff for a long time now, and yet none of them ever go after the kids. And while the Blind Eye is a secret group, the intelligent people at least probably know about the supernatural, and know that something will happen to them if they say anything.
  • It's revealed that McGucket has repeatedly used the ray to erase his own memories. In one of the video journals, he starts to wonder if there're any negative side-effects to using it. Seriously, he just NOW starts wondering if there're any side-effects after using it on himself for who knows how many times?!
    • He probably didn't care about any side effects the first time. And after it worked for as many times as it did with what seemed to be no side effects, he just kept using it until he did notice. And the side effects seemed small at first. Anyway, most side effects probably went unnoticed because it is actively affecting his memory, or written off as leftovers from the reason he erased his memory.
    • It's difficult to ascertain the cause of side effects when you're actively erasing your own memory. The thing about mental instability is that you're usually completely unaware that it's happening.
  • Minor one, but how could Soos not know Mabel's name for that long after they had an entire rap dedicated to words that rhymed with her name in the second episode?
    • Well, this is Soos we're talking about.
  • Dipper, Mabel, and the others have been involved paranormal phenomenon all summer. In fact, of all the people in town, they're probably the most involved with it. So... WHY HAS THE SOCIETY OF THE BLIND EYE NEVER PAYED THEM A VISIT?!
    • Maybe they have...
    • Then why did they allow them to keep their memories?
      • Would you fuck with Stan Pines and his crew?
    • Which memories? The memory gun is specific and the society isn't all knowing. Just because the society hadn't found out about everything they've encountered wouldn't mean they couldn't have caught them discovering some things.
      • Future episode plot? They find something important, and then it's revealed that they had already found it but the Society erased those memories.
    • Competency probably. Most of the town is pretty kooky from being mind wiped, not to mention the Society uses the mind wiper on themselves. Alternately, it could be that Pines family and friends are in too deep and off the radar of the group.
    • There's also the fact that the Society seems to perceive itself mainly as a humanitarian group that takes away people's unwanted memories. Lazy Susan, in the beginning of the episode, seems like seeing the gnomes has completely and totally broken her. On the other hand, Dipper and Mabel are just a little weirded out by what they see going on, but they never become hysterical or seem legitimately traumatized. The same is true for everyone else at the Mystery Shack, and other characters who talk about supernatural events without too much concern (like Wendy's father, who's seen the Hide Behind and the Manotaurs). The decision to erase all of their summer memories might just be an overreaction to the fact that they've found the Society, almost like a sort of punishment for stumbling upon their secrets.
    • From what the Society says, everybody who has had their memories erased did so voluntarily. They only go after Dipper and co. once they find out about the Society's existence.
  • Isn't the Society's mission rather self-destructive? By erasing people's memories, all you're doing is making them incredibly vulnerable to the town's weirdness through sheer ignorance. Wouldn't its founder, a scientist, think it a better idea to instead study the horrors of Gravity Falls and find a better way to combat them?...or maybe use the memory gun on various monsters and make them forget they're a threat to humans?
    • McGucket started using the memory erase gun in order to erase his memory of doing something he deeply regretted, not necessarily something supernatural. It was only once he started becoming more obsessed with the gun (and more delirious, probably due to the gaps in his memory), that he started erasing memory of the supernatural stuff. Remember, he founded the society for people to erase their memories and nothing more, so its possible its intentions to be specifically for supernatural things have changed over time.
    • That's kind of the point of the episode. Erasing your memories to escape your past is (quite literally in this episode) self destructive behavior.
  • A retroactive one for Dipper's Guide to the Unexplained. In this episode, we can see that the journal actually has an entry on the island head beast, including notes on it leaving teeth behind (with a picture of the very same tooth Dipper found, no less), and ways to recognize the lake (it's the one with the mysterious tropical flora). So why was the journal never checked or mentioned during the episode of Guide to the Unexplained, with the kids instead going to a local fisherman, and clearly not expecting the island to be a monstrous... thingamajig?
  • Instead of erasing his own memories of Gideon's tantrums, why didn't Bud just erase Gideon's memories and manipulate him into being a better person and/or ideal son? It's a dick move sure, but a pragmatic one given that it's Gideon we're talking about here.
    • I can think of several reasons. First, which memories do you erase to "manipulate him?" It would seem like you'd have to erase almost all of them, which brings me to my second point. the side effects. The more you erase, the more brain damage it seems to do. Would you do that to your son? (It is implied that, despite Gideon being evil, he still loves him). Third, he's obviously terrified of him. He might just be too cowardly to approach him with an obvious gun-shaped device for fear of how he might react, especially if Gideon somehow gets the device. Finally, even if you erase his memories, and no brain damage is incurred, whose to say that would really change his personality? He might be evil for reasons that aren't tied to his memories, or he might turn out even worse somehow, possibly due to lacking any memories of his father's kindness, or memories in which he experiences regret for his actions (presuming those exist).
  • At no point does Dipper (or anyone else) consider actually reading the Journal's article on the "Blind Eye Society" despite it being that that sets off McGucket's memories. Its possible he already had and pages simply didn't contain anything useful, but they seemed surprised at the secret orders existence. So if that's true, what exactly was the two pages dedicated to the cult about?
    • Author's speculation on who they are?

     Blendin's Game 
  • It's me or the episode have some Continuity Snarl? Soo's birthday is revealed to be on July 13 which would mean that the episode takes place during Sock Opera (July 11 to 14 according to a scene), yet Stan is seen wearing the bandages from the previous episode that obviously takes place AFTER Bill Cyper destroys the laptop. My head hurt
    • It almost seems fitting for an episode with this subject matter.
  • So anyone can just challenge anyone they want to fight in gladiatorial combat to receive a paradox-free time wish. And then they get to decide the fate of the loser without having to use the wish. What exactly is stopping two friends from challenging each other, letting the other off without consequences should they win, and then making a wish for both of them? Or if we're being dark, a grown adult challenging a young child, like toddler age, and receiving anything they want?
    • Well, remember, we never find out the exact rules and restrictions of Blognar, so this is just us assuming. Plus, given the fact that its meant to both take place in a dystopian future and be a parody of "Immoral death game" stories like The Hunger Games and Enderís Game, it does't exactly seem out of place.
    • There could be more legal stuff tied into Globnar that wasn't shown on-screen. Blendin did refer to Dipper and Mabel as "the kids who ruined [his] life" or something like that, and negatively influencing someone's life through time travel doesn't seem too unlikely.

    The Love God 
  • Why do people keep saying that Robbie and Tambry had Belligerent Sexual Tension before Mabel spiked their food? Robbie and Tambry have had zero real interaction until this episode and when they did finally interact, they had nothing but contempt for each other. And what if Robbie and Tambry aren't truly meant for each other? Would this mean that their actual true loves would spend the rest of their lives alone? What if Tambry had a crush on Nate or someone else? Would this mean her own feelings have now been overwritten with feelings for Robbie?
    • As for the tension, it might be people reading a bit to far into something, but there is the fact that despite there apparent contempt for the other, they were clearly perfectly happy to stay and share a meal together, so at he very worst they weren't against hanging out. By excepting that, that does more or less mean they were okay with at least trying one date, even if they hadn't consciously realised this. People also pick up on the fact that Tambry had quite different reaction to Robbie calling her "Tambers" than she did when she was called it earlier.
    • As for all the concerns, I donít think anything in the episode suggested they weren’t completely real and possible dangers. Hence why Love God made such a big thing over how dangerous it was for someone who didnít know what they were doing to meddle in these matters. Seriously they could have all happened, itís just very lucky that they apparently didnít (or perhaps they did, we will never know now). As to why they donít just go back, well the implication is once itís done the status quo is changed, simply undoing the love potion wonít automatically cause it to snap back to the former status quo. The consequences can’t be escaped, the damage is done, and all you can do is except this new reality. Altering would likely just cause more damage.
      • Maybe more importantly, the other vial Mabel steals from the Love God isn't an antidote that would cause things to snap back to the former status quo. It explicitly causes people to fall out of love with each other. Presumably, it's just as permanent as the love potion Mabel uses earlier, but in the opposite direction. Using it would just mean tampering more and possibly causing even more serious problems. It was wrong and dangerous to mess with their emotions in the first place, but doing it again wouldn't set things right. It would just be another wrong and dangerous act.
  • Did that mother and son... die from the burning Stan balloon...?
    • No. The balloon landed on the Love God, not them.
  • Not So serious but about the Love God himself
    • Uhm I get, humour show on Disney but they seem to zigzag with his presentation. Drunken emotionally manipulative charismatic fits for Cupid, no doubt, but does he have a sex/love drive himself? He's shown taking actions evocative of making out or sex but carefully shown or disclaimed to be doing something else - "Sign my face" - or was that set up to help misdirect for whatever the hell he was doing in the van. Given his arrival in the diner has people making out explicitly why all the misleading?
      • Most likely because, rightly or wrongly, the creators of the show thought that the subverted innuendo would be funnier than just having him make out with someone. The idea that he might be a literal love god who is completely asexual (and wants to make people think he's not, in the case of the incident with the van where he gets his "groupies" to make it look like they just had sex) is unexpected and kind of funny, as well.
    • I feel this is criminally unmentioned but what is his "rock career" consist of?
      • He's never depicted with an instrument or singing aside from the decal on the cassette tape he hands to Mabel. But he's called in for a sound check and no instruments are seen with him. Just found it weird and unusual. Particularly in contrast with the other performers in the episode or series.ty
    • What *was* he doing in the damned van with Cute Biker and The Other One. It implicitly WASN'T making it shake in the sexy times way because of the intentional bedheading (likely for the censors/parents but it still matters in story). IT seems he was kind of 'covering' himself only with male and female groupie. Making me wonder if, ala putti statues, he's personally sexless so keeps building up a reputation of being (bi)sex god and keep people guessing he's born eunuch. Moreover how did he get Tyler and the other one to agree to do whatever happened with him?
      • The van did have a suspiciously-shaped glass tube in it, so possibly drugs.
     Northwest Mansion Noir 
  • Is it just just me or does Nathaniel Northwest seem unusually assholish for someone that described as the waste-shoveling village idiot?
    • It could just be chalked up to the power going to his head. Power corrupts.
    • Could be he was always a Jerk Ass, just a powerless one before the cover-up. Dumb Is Good is not a rule of thumb, after all.
    • He appears to be much smarter than depicted in the article though.
      • It's possible that was his son.
      • Its implied, he might have been Obfuscating Stupidity (perhaps so the government would think it would be harmless to give him all this wealth and status) his descendant Preston certainly likes to play himself up as an Upper-Class Twit, rather than the manipulative, callous and ruthless man he is. Perhaps its just another trait that runs in the Northwest family.
  • How is something so out of place like the tapestry go unnoticed especially by McGucket or Dipper, who are possibly the most paranoid people in the world.
    • McGucket Probably saw it, but didn't think about it too hard (we have no evidence that he's consciously aware of who or what Bill even is), and Dipper had other things on his mind all night between the ghost hunting and reevaluating his opinion of Pacifica, so it's not that surprising that he didn't notice it. That said, it is a tapestry of people bowing down to a seemingly-demonic entity while the world around them burns, which one would expect to raise a few red flags, even with the random guests. I think the real headscratcher here is "why do the Northwests have something so Obviously Evil on display in the main room where they hold parties?
    • Additionally why do the Northwests have a room full of all the wrong deeds that they have done? Are the prideful of it?
      • Considering they've gone out of there way to pretty much be a family of sociopaths for at least five generations. I would say yes.
      • That room was a hidden one. Not even Pacifica knew it was there. Likely that's where they stuff anything that makes the family out to be less than perfect.
  • How did just looking at the trees cause the mirror to turn red-hot?
    • He could have done it at any time, but he needed to trick dipper into raising the mirror high enough to break the mirror.
    • Presumably because as the ghost of a lumberjack, much of the ghost's power derives from wood and trees. Reflecting a forest in the mirror gave him a huge power boost.
  • How did McGucket know the password for the laptop he fixed, did he hack it, remember it, or was it even needed?
    • As he literally rebuilt it, its possible when he fixed it he simply removed that feature. Or alternatively, as it was his laptop, its possible he just had to narrow it down to a seven letter word that he would use as a password (say a beloved family members name, or something he had enjoyed). Or as that shows McGucket is clearly well on the road to recovery, so its not impossible he just managed to remember what he set the password as.
  • Where were Pacifica's friends at the party (the same ones seen with her in "Double Dipper") and do they even know about how Pacifica's parents treat her? Some friends they are!
    • The whole theme about Pacifica is how her upbringing has essentially isolated her. Her "friends" are simply Yes Girls who only follow Pacifica around for her status and family's wealth. They aren't really True Companions to to the extent Mabel's are.

     Not What He Seems 
  • So, Grunkle Stan was innocent and had no intention of destroying the world. Isn't it still entirely possible that he just didn't know that the machine was dangerous? The writing that Dipper sees in the Journals was only visible under a UV light, and if Stan had never figured out that the Journals had hidden text, then he could have genuinely believed that minor gravitational anomalies were the worst things that it was capable of. Shouldn't Mabel or Dipper have at least mentioned that the Journals actually said that the machine was dangerous and that they weren't just jumping to conclusions based on the fact that the FBI believed that it was a doomsday device? Mabel was right to trust that he didn't believe that it was dangerous and that he genuinely loved both of them, but was she right to think that it wasn't dangerous because of that? It's entirely possible that they just got extremely lucky.
    • Actually, if you rewatch Scary-Oke, Stan was with Dipper and Mabel when they discovered the UV light displayed hidden text. So he knew about the hidden text and, if it was as important to him as it appears to be, he would have checked every journal for hidden text and found the warnings.
    • It is entire possible, and most likely right. I think itís very unlikely, after everything weíve seen of him, that Stan is evil. But Dipper lacks the knowledge that this is a TV show, and that Stan can be a good person when Dipper isnít looking. Dipper is very cynical and has poor self esteem, and itís entirely in character for him to assume Stan never loved them and had been tricking them the entire time. He looks at things from a logical perspective, ie, the MOUNTAIN of evidence that Stan has fabricated everything about himself, possibly including his affection for the twins.
      • Dipper can sometimes go beyond being knowledgeable straight to being overly anxious, and Mabel is obviously overly trusting, so it might actually fit pretty well with both of their personalities to assume either the absolute worst ( that he was an omnicidal fraud, despite having literally been inside of Stan's mind where he had no incentive or ability to lie about his affection for at least Dipper) or the absolute best ( that he was both innocent and fully competent, even though someone so desperate to achieve their goals could easily make mistakes without any sort of malice).
    • Actually, Stan DOES read the warnings, but actively ignores them.
    • If The real Stanford Pines' death was reported in the newspaper, wouldn't the rest of the Pines family have been notified and thus make it impossible for "Stan" to pull off his Dead Person Impersonation?
      • The article only said that Stan Pines was dead, not Stanford. It's very likely that Stan's brother is also named Stan.
      • On that same note, it wouldn't be impossible that Dipper and Mabel's parents could know that the Stan Pines at the Mystery Shack isn't the one who founded the tourist trap, but is in fact the other one. This would be pretty much impossible to avoid if "Grunkle" Stan were actually Grandpa Stan.
      • Relevant personal experience here, but while I was informed early on that my paternal grandfather had died before I was born, I wasn't informed until I was ten that he had been murdered. There have been real life cases of people not knowing that relatives even existed until they go through other family member's records. The rest of the family may know something, and simply decided that the twins are to young to be told, or that they didn't need to know. That's assuming that events didn't happen while the twins parents were considered too young to tell, and assuming that information wasn't kept from them as well That said considering that the twins' parents sent them to "Grunkle Stan's" for the summer, they probably know who he is on some level
      • Well we do see them phone him in "Gideon Rises" and from the way the conversation goes, it seems safe to say they do know him (it even apparently ends with them saying they love him). However you have a point about their parents potentially being too young at the time; since the death happened thirty years ago, and Dipper and Mabel are only twelve, its possible that thirty years ago their father was a child when it happened.
    • Adding fuel to the flames here with this lil' tidbit from an Alex Hirsch Reddit AMA
    madamerenard: I know he's their great uncle and all, but what made Dipper and Mabel's parents send their kids to live with a wanted criminal?
    _alexhirsch[S]:Dipper & Mabel's parents dont know Stan as well as they think they do
  • So in" into the bunker", when the shape shifter said that the author hasn't been the same for 30 years, was he talking about Stan and confusing him for his brother?
    • Well there's the question. Personally I think he's talking about Stan's brother. People are all thinking the author is some kind of wise old future badass, but from what we've read of the diaries he was going crazy (and Mc Gucket quit and erased his memories) long before he disappeared. His mental state is still up in the air as far as I'm concerned.
    • Then again, we viewers have seen things over the seasons that make paranoia pretty justifiable (Bill being the major one that jumps to mind) which begs the question: How much of the crazy scribbling were the mutterings of a man suffering from full blown sanity slippage,and how much were the desperate writings of a man gradually finding himself further and further over his head and doing the best he could (And still suffering some sanity slippage, cause seriously who wouldn't?). Either way, odds are pretty good that this guy is at least a little altered by what he's seen.
    • After the reveals in "A Tale of Two Stans", the shapeshifter was most likely referring to the real Stanford's descent into paranoia.
  • Why are the agents taking Dipper and Mabel to child services, rather than contacting their parents to come retrieve them?
    • Most likely they were taking them to child services as the most efficient way to hold them until their parents could arrive. The don't even live in the same state, so it would take quite some time to arrange their return. The agents also probably intended to interrogate the Pines about what they knew about Grunkle Stan before releasing them to their parents.

     A Tale of Two Stans 
  • We see the flashback of the two Stans growing up, but it was Stanford (the Author) who grew up as a nerd. Yet, in Stanley's (Grunkle Stan) flashback in Dreamscaperers, where he was explaining to Dipper about how his father was hard on him to toughen him up and made him take boxing, Stanley was the one who looked like a nerd. Was it a case of Unreliable Narrator? Was Stanley's appearance irrelevant in that case and what was more important was that he was teaching a lesson to Dipper about being tougher?
    • Given Stanford's presence at the boxing ring, they BOTH might have been forced to take lessons. Stanford is certainly capable of giving Stanley a good fight, and Stanley isn't exactly a powerhouse jock in the flashbacks. It's possible Stanley is telling a Stanford story because Dipper is the 'Stanford', but I don't see why that has to be the case.
  • Arguing for an unintentional case of Unreliable Narrator here. The previous flashbacks were drawn from Grunkle Stan's mindscape, which means that they can be more easily colored by his perception of things. He stated that he was a wimp growing up (Or something to that effect) so maybe that version of lil Stan was colored by his perception of what he thinks a "wimp" is supposed to look like, his own insecurities and self perceptions, or all three at once. Or he and Ford could have tried to pull the whole Twin swap thing a couple times and his memories of wearing glasses as a kid could be from when he was pretending to be Ford. Whatever makes more sense.
  • One of the driving issues that divided the two Stans was the accidental destruction of Ford's perpetual motion machine costing him his scholarship. But wouldn't it have been possible for Ford to build another and show it to the university?
    • It might be invite only, and they firmly ignore any pleas for admission outside of one time events.
  • Can someone explain to me how old Dipper and Mabel's grandparent must be? At one point during the Stans flashback, we see their mother holding a child, presumably growing up to be Dipper and Mabel's grandparent, but the ages just don't quite add up.
    • They line up fine if you assume both she and her son had a kid while young. It was said to be "1960-something", if each had their kids around 20 then the math adds up fine.
    • Actually, if you take into account the twins' age, it doesn't. Shermie seemed to be one at the time we saw him. Then we jump forward and Stan says he hasn't seen Ford in ten years. Then he takes his identity for thirty years. That's 41. Subtract 12 and divide by two and you get... About 14.
    • Well, assuming that the baby in the scene WAS Shermy and not Dipper and Mabel's father.
    • Seeing as we know the series takes place in 2012 and Stan says in his flashback that he grew up in New Jersey in the 1960s, let's be generous and say the year is 1960... In their initial appearances let's also be generous and say that both Stans are six. That means they're born in 1954. 1954+18+10+30=2012, so these numbers are roughly correct (ignoring month of birth versus month of setting). Stan and his brother are both 58, Shermy being the kids grandfather is roughly 1 to 2 in 1972 (assuming he is the baby in the flashback), 2012-1970=42 years old. If he had Mabel and Dipper's father at 15 (extremely early for the 1980s) and then their father had both kids at 15, this is the only way that Dipper and Mabel could be 12. Unless, the baby is their father, which means that their parents had Dipper and Mabel at 30, much more realistic. So, Shermy must be the Stans' older brother (he could have already been out of the house when Stanley gave his first flashback, 18 (graduated in 1960) +12 (years left until the Stans are 18, assuming 6 in the first flashback) =30 in 1972, meaning he had Dipper and Mabel's grandfather in his late 20s. He should be 70 in 2012, assuming this math is accurate.
    • Couple of things to consider: First of all Stanley says he hadn't seen his brother in over 10 years, key word being over, and it's not actually confirmed that the last time they saw each other was when Stanley got kicked out, it's possible he attempted to meet up with his brother again while he was at College (only to be shunned since Stanford didn't want his brother to ruin his academic success again). On top of this the 30 years that Standford has been said to stuck in another dimension could have been a rounded down estimate. That combined could provide the best part of an extra decade which helps make Shermy being the baby more feasible.
  • Does Grunkle Stan never meet up with extended family? If he ever met any of them, they'd be really shocked that he doesn't have twelve fingers.
    • It seems neither of the Stans did so, with Stanford being a recluse in Oregon and Stanley a grifter constantly on the run from state to state.
  • Okay, so Ford in the flashback didn't want to destroy his journals because they were full of his research, but still knew people could use his inter-dimensional portal for terrible things. So why not just rip out the pages about the portal and keep the rest of the journals intact? Then he could have held on to the majority of his research and while the knowledge of how to operate the portal could remain a secret.
    • He probably figured that there might be a situation where the portal would be needed, and either way the information is useless without the other two journals.
  • How did Ford know where to send that letter to Stan? Stan was a traveling salesman, and probably never had a fixed home, and even if he did, neither of the two have seen or heard from each other in years, how could Ford possibly know what Stan's address would be, or even know the letter would get to him?
    • Perhaps he hired a private investigator to track him down. It would make sense since he'd be too paranoid to trust a regular messenger anyways.
  • Did the idea of finding an honest job just never occur to Stanley? The economy wasn't bad in the time frame he was on his own for and his get rich quick schemes NEVER paid off.
    • Stanley's father demanded that he never return until he made up for the millions that he expected Stanford to get. After that, Stanley was so angry that he became determined to actually do it just to prove to his family that they were wrong about him. Since he had no known skills and limited experience in the world with the vague goal of matching a hypothetical fortune hanging over him, he gravitated towards whatever he thought would get the money the fastest: first treasure hunting and then the various scams. By the time he got older and likely accepted that getting rich enough to prove himself wasn't going to happen, he was already so deep into the lifestyle that he couldn't get out even if he tried.
    • There's also the fact that it's implied that Stanley was kicked out before he even graduated high school, making him a dropout. There's very little job opportunities past menial minimum wage jobs that would be available to him.