History Headscratchers / GravityFalls

21st Jan '18 12:51:44 PM jgrif57003
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** This is answered by the book, which says the key only works on locks made before it.
11th Jan '18 8:31:23 AM dutchguy1986
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** Honestly, I think you're overestimating their reaction. Ford and Dipper have both been tricked by Bill, with huge consequences on Ford's part and nearly lethal on Dipper's, so they don't have much room to judge, especially since Ford ordered Dipper not to warn Mable about the rift in the first place. And if anyone's going to understand making a mistake about of wanting to not be separated from their loved ones and have it have horrible consequences the Stan certainly will. This really sounds more like when everyone thought Dipper would be mad at Mable for not stopping the portal, only for him to just shrug it off. Mistakes were made, she didn't know what the consequences would be and they're family, they stick together.

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** Honestly, I think you're overestimating their reaction. Ford and Dipper have both been tricked by Bill, with huge consequences on Ford's part and nearly lethal on Dipper's, so they don't have much room to judge, especially since Ford ordered Dipper not to warn Mable about the rift in the first place. And if anyone's going to understand making a mistake about of wanting to not be separated from their loved ones and have it have horrible consequences the Stan Stans certainly will. This really sounds more like when everyone thought Dipper would be mad at Mable for not stopping the portal, only for him to just shrug it off. Mistakes were made, she didn't know what the consequences would be and they're family, they stick together.
11th Jan '18 8:28:45 AM dutchguy1986
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** If the journals ''were'' restored, it's unlikely Stanford would leave them behind. And it's just as likely Gideon's not going to be trust again by the townsfolk since they are aware of his prior deception.

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** If the journals ''were'' restored, it's unlikely Stanford would leave them behind. And it's just as likely Gideon's not going to be trust trusted again by the townsfolk since they are aware of his prior deception.
11th Jan '18 8:10:50 AM dutchguy1986
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** Alternatively, perhaps Ford never considered that Mabel would want to stay in Gravity Falls. The whole investigating the paranormal is Dipperís thing not Mabelís, sure she joins in, and has had her own interests from time to time, but sheís never had the same passion Dipper has, and probably never will. Likewise, accepting the role of Fordís apprentice, isnít going to entail non-stop adventures, the majority of their time is going to be spent in Fordís lab: studying, experimenting, observing and recording, like with any scientist and their assistant would. Thatís not going to keep Mabel interested, so either Ford has to stop his work for significant periods of time to look after her, or he leaves her to her own devices. Ford isnít going to stop working, and he canít just leave a thirteen year old to her own devices for most of their time, itís irresponsible and unfair on her, as it would mean she would be missing out on not just her education, but getting to see her parents and her friends back home All for the sake of her staying with Ford. Likewise donít forget, that the last time Ford saw Mabel she was eagerly looking forward to the future and going to high school, as he didnít know about the events that befell her, he no doubt still thinks she wants this. In which case he could see having her stay, as ripping her away from her dream, all for the sake of satisfying her brothers.

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** Alternatively, perhaps Ford never considered that Mabel would want to stay in Gravity Falls. The whole investigating the paranormal is Dipperís thing not Mabelís, sure she joins in, and has had her own interests from time to time, but sheís never had the same passion Dipper has, and probably never will. Likewise, accepting the role of Fordís apprentice, isnít going to entail non-stop adventures, the majority of their time is going to be spent in Fordís lab: studying, experimenting, observing and recording, like with any scientist and their assistant would. Thatís not going to keep Mabel interested, so either Ford has to stop his work for significant periods of time to look after her, or he leaves her to her own devices. Ford isnít going to stop working, and he canít just leave a thirteen year old to her own devices for most of their time, itís irresponsible and unfair on her, as it would mean she would be missing out on not just her education, but getting to see her parents and her friends back home All for the sake of her staying with Ford. Likewise donít forget, that the last time Ford saw Mabel she was eagerly looking forward to the future and going to high school, as he didnít know about the events that befell her, he no doubt still thinks she wants this. In which case he could see having her stay, as ripping her away from her dream, all for the sake of satisfying her brothers.brother's.
11th Jan '18 8:10:02 AM dutchguy1986
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** As for the tension, it might be people reading a bit to far into something, but there is the fact that despite there apparent contempt for the other, they were clearly perfectly happy to stay and share a meal together, so at he very worst they weren't against hanging out. By excepting that, that does more or less mean they were okay with at least trying one date, even if they hadn't consciously realised this. People also pick up on the fact that Tambry had quite different reaction to Robbie calling her "Tambers" than she did when she was called it earlier.

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** As for the tension, it might be people reading a bit to far into something, but there is the fact that despite there apparent contempt for the other, they were clearly perfectly happy to stay and share a meal together, so at he very worst they weren't against hanging out. By excepting accepting that, that does more or less mean they were okay with at least trying one date, even if they hadn't consciously realised this. People also pick up on the fact that Tambry had quite different reaction to Robbie calling her "Tambers" than she did when she was called it earlier.



** Alternatively, perhaps Ford never considered that Mabel would want to stay in Gravity Falls. The whole investigating the paranormal is Dipperís thing not Mabelís, sure she joins in, and has had her own interests from time to time, but sheís never had the same passion Dipper has, and probably never will. Likewise, excepting the role of Fordís apprentice, isnít going to entail non-stop adventures, the majority of their time is going to be spent in Fordís lab: studying, experimenting, observing and recording, like with any scientist and their assistant would. Thatís not going to keep Mabel interested, so either Ford has to stop his work for significant periods of time to look after her, or he leaves her to her own devices. Ford isnít going to stop working, and he canít just leave a thirteen year old to her own devices for most of their time, itís irresponsible and unfair on her, as it would mean she would be missing out on not just her education, but getting to see her parents and her friends back home All for the sake of her staying with Ford. Likewise donít forget, that the last time Ford saw Mabel she was eagerly looking forward to the future and going to high school, as he didnít know about the events that befell her, he no doubt still thinks she wants this. In which case he could see having her stay, as ripping her away from her dream, all for the sake of satisfying her brothers.

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** Alternatively, perhaps Ford never considered that Mabel would want to stay in Gravity Falls. The whole investigating the paranormal is Dipperís thing not Mabelís, sure she joins in, and has had her own interests from time to time, but sheís never had the same passion Dipper has, and probably never will. Likewise, excepting accepting the role of Fordís apprentice, isnít going to entail non-stop adventures, the majority of their time is going to be spent in Fordís lab: studying, experimenting, observing and recording, like with any scientist and their assistant would. Thatís not going to keep Mabel interested, so either Ford has to stop his work for significant periods of time to look after her, or he leaves her to her own devices. Ford isnít going to stop working, and he canít just leave a thirteen year old to her own devices for most of their time, itís irresponsible and unfair on her, as it would mean she would be missing out on not just her education, but getting to see her parents and her friends back home All for the sake of her staying with Ford. Likewise donít forget, that the last time Ford saw Mabel she was eagerly looking forward to the future and going to high school, as he didnít know about the events that befell her, he no doubt still thinks she wants this. In which case he could see having her stay, as ripping her away from her dream, all for the sake of satisfying her brothers.
11th Jan '18 8:08:31 AM dutchguy1986
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*** Yeah he is projecting but he has hardly left his lab, now has he? And Dipper spends an awful lot of time with him, him and Mabel are are hardly as tight as they sed to be. Despite this, Mabel only reacted badly now, when she found out Dipper wants to stay. She didn't complain he spent more time with Ford, so I wouldn't say she clings to him all that much. Certainly not more than a usual 12 year-old would to their twin.

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*** Yeah he is projecting but he has hardly left his lab, now has he? And Dipper spends an awful lot of time with him, him and Mabel are are are hardly as tight as they sed used to be. Despite this, Mabel only reacted badly now, when she found out Dipper wants to stay. She didn't complain he spent more time with Ford, so I wouldn't say she clings to him all that much. Certainly not more than a usual 12 year-old would to their twin.
11th Jan '18 8:02:13 AM dutchguy1986
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** The game works this way: in order to win Dipper and Ford have to defeat all of Probabilitor's monsters, so Probabilitor decided what they were when the scenario was set up, no dice rolls required on his part. Next the sides take turns casting spells to aid their characters. Stan casts shield of shielding (13) and probabilitor casts a spell to reverse it (14), since Probabilitor rolled higher his spell undid Stan's shoeld spell. So the higher the roll the stronger the spell. For the final battle the monster could only be defeated by a perfect 38, once it's rolled Mable simply decided what the weapon that defeated it would be (death muffins).

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** The game works this way: in order to win Dipper and Ford have to defeat all of Probabilitor's monsters, so Probabilitor decided what they were when the scenario was set up, no dice rolls required on his part. Next the sides take turns casting spells to aid their characters. Stan casts shield of shielding (13) and probabilitor casts a spell to reverse it (14), since Probabilitor rolled higher his spell undid Stan's shoeld shield spell. So the higher the roll the stronger the spell. For the final battle the monster could only be defeated by a perfect 38, once it's rolled Mable simply decided what the weapon that defeated it would be (death muffins).
7th Jan '18 6:07:54 AM BreadBull
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* Depends. Given Mabel and Dipper live in Piedmont normally they might not be used to the relatively colder temperatures up in northern latitudes.

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* ** Depends. Given Mabel and Dipper live in Piedmont normally they might not be used to the relatively colder temperatures up in northern latitudes.
7th Jan '18 6:07:07 AM BreadBull
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* Depends. Given Mabel and Dipper live in Piedmont normally they might not be used to the relatively colder temperatures up in northern latitudes.
3rd Oct '17 8:51:46 AM DPsycho
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** Bill can always appear in dreams, but the plate prevents him from rooting around in memories or taking control. Unless he is invited.
* Bill needs to learn how to escape Gravity Falls to the rest of the world, and since he destroyed the journals, his only immediate source is Ford. Of course, Ford has the metal plate in his head, so the knowledge can't be gained unless Ford offers it willingly. Except that we've seen that Bill, once in physical form, is now capable of transmuting materials at will. Had he kept his rage in check and thought on it a moment, what would have stopped Bill snapping his fingers and transmuting the plate itself into living tissue and negating its protection? He could have had the answers he desired before the Pines family had a plan in place.
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