Having finally seen the scene in question, there's Questionable Consent in the sense that he was in a weird state of mind but there was no issue on his part that one of the partners was male.
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Curly Goddess
The following was removed:
- Bestiality Is Depraved: Her sisters are grossed out when they discover that she intends to use their pet Hector as a Sex Slave.
For the following reason:
"While the vampires do consider humans as cattle, it's a bit iffy if Bestiality Is Depraved would be the case here from their perspective. Also, the dialogue could be interpreted that her sisters are disgusted simply at how much of a depraved sex fiend Lenore revealed herself to be as they don't explicitly say anything to suggest this trope."
Personally, I think the trope should be restored, because it was pretty obvious to me that the dynamic between the Sisters and Hector was that they saw him as completely subhuman. The original troper who added this wasn't the only one who got the interpretation that the sisters' reaction to Lenore having sex with Hector being the same as a person who found out a friend is having sex with an animal. This is corroborated by the fact that we're shown that Sisters have a "uncommon mundane" way of life. Phrases like, "It's the middle of the day", "She adopted him" and so on indicate (at least in my opinion) that the writers were going for a kind of Black Humor in that the vampires are just like us, but from a different POV.
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The Sumi and Taka section needs updating. Samuel Deats has confirmed on Twitter that they aren't twins.
So many of the sibling tropes need to be removed. Especially Twincest.
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ADHD Villain
So I was going to add a trope about when Dracula was blasted down a hallway by the Morning Star. Would that be Blown Across the Room or Punched Across the Room?
Warbound
Technically while Alucard did stake him Trevor was the one who cut off Dracula's head and Sypha burnt the body, all of which are things that are said to be necessary to kill a vampire in the various mythos. So they all played a role in finishing him off.
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Lord of Herping and Derping
The Bishop was not the one to have the Belmonts excommunicated. Trevor even states as much, saying that the order for his family to be excommunicated came from 'higher up the ladder'.
For Lisa — I believe she counts as a Nice Girl, Morality Chain (for Dracula), The Lost Lenore (for Dracula) ; The first one because of her desire to help others and her final request; the second because it was her death at the hands of the Bishop and others that made Dracula Kill All Humans; for the third, the trope is about the death of a loved one causig emotional grief for their living lover, which is what Lisa is.
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Also, she would count for Cruel and Unusual Death because being burned at the stake is a painful way to go.
Last post about Lisa — she was Dracula's Living Emotional Crutch because (even though we didn't see most of their life together) it was her death that turned him into a Big Bad with his plans to Kill All Humans; for Morality Chain From Beyond The Grave, it's all but stated that it was Alucard who was about to kill the humans who put his mother on the stake, but she managed to give him a Last Request to not kill them because they don't understand and even in grief, he remains true to his word and when asked by Trevor why he's willing to help kill his father, Alucard's reply is because it was in honor of his mother's dying wish nothing else.
Dracula — For Amazon Chaser, the trope may be primarily about a man or woman who likes a woman because of their strength and given Dracula's amused and impressed expression at Lisa for not being scared of him when he tried to intimidate her, then it counts for a downplayed and implied example. And just because the "Playing With" section on the page has another interpretation of a downplayed and implied example doesn't mean it doesn't count here. For example, Aladdin from Disney's Aladdin was already in love with Jasmine but was quite impressed at seeing her perform an acrobatic feat or the student body council from Dance With Devils were all impressed with Ritsuka standing up for herself.
Sypha — For All-Loving Hero, yes she was initially put off by Trevor, but she was willing to stay and help the people of Tragroviste even if it meant her death. So, she can count as a downplayed example.
Okay, since we're on the threshold of an Edit War, I'm going to civilly ask the OP to change/revert the changes they've made, and here are my reasons:
Sypha isn't an All-Loving Hero. Not even a downplayed one — an All-Loving Hero is required to love everyone: their allies, their enemies, even that child-eating goblin that's hiding in the alleyway over there. Their motto is "there are no bad people in this world," and Sypha fights Dracula's goblins and was willing to harm innocent civilians when it came to saving Trevor's hide.
As for Amazon Chaser... fine, you can keep it. But change the phrasing of the trope a bit, since a Non-Action Guy is Always Male and that's just weird in Lisa's case. Same goes for Cruel and Unusual Death (it wasn't her skeleton, but withered body).
Living Emotional Crutch is a trope about helping a character helping another cope with their mental disorders. Not applicable to Dracula. The Lost Lenore trope is about the protagonist's loved one being stuffed into a fridge. Morality Chain is a trope about a character stopping another's Face–Heel Turn with their presence. Dracula is already evil, so Morality Pet — a trope about someone humanizing a villain — works better here (not to mention there're two tropes with the same description now).
"Morality Chain Beyond the Grave, it's all but stated that it was Alucard who was about to kill the humans who put his mother on the stake." Uhhhh... no? Don't speculate; Alucard has no personality as of right now, besides his Like Father, Unlike Son attitude.
Nice Girl is subtrope of All-Loving Hero; Lisa doesn't need to have the same information repeated so many times.
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Okay. And I apologize for the implication of starting a war, that wasn't my attention. I will make the changes right now. I honestly thought they all fit.
Amazon Chaser? Yahno. The bare minimum for that is that she's an Action Girl. Which Lisa is blatantly not. Claiming it's "implied" and "downplayed" tells me that it's more than likely "shoehorned."
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I talked to people, and they too agree Dracula isn't an Amazon Chaser. I'm afraid to actually to fix it, though, because I've already made a few too many edits.
Honestly? I think we should remove the "duplicate" tropes i.e. tropes that repeat the same information over and over again, as well as delete the inaccurate or otherwise misleading tropes (e.g. Blue Fangs isn't killed mid-sentence and etc.).
Also, Sypha scares me with her attitude. I don't know why would she be considered in any way "cute."
Ok, is there any need to compare the tv adaptation to any minor point of the games? For example, in regard of Trevor's personality? He has almost zero characterization in the games, besides a backstory that probably will appear in the future seasons and the "generic Belmont needs to fight against Dracula plot". We don't know how Trevor really was or how he felt towards his life, because like almost every playable character, he didn't have defined traits. Or for example, Alucard's hair color? That was just a concept art, he is still blonde in the tv show and faithful to the Symphony of Night art concept.
I think it's a faithfull adaptation. And there's no need to compare every detail of the unfinished series with a game with great gameplay but scribble plot.
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ADHD Villain
So I'm trying to think of a trope that would fit Dracula giving humanity one year before he wipes them out with his army, but I'm not sure of which one. The one I'm leaning towards is Your Days Are Numbered, but I'm not sure if that counts since the series went with a Time Skip.
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I don't think it's the Your Days Are Numbered; that trope is about a character who knows precisely they're going to die in # days. Here, methinks, it's an exaggerated You Have No Chance to Survive, what with the villain actually carrying out their threat.
their is nothing Ambiguous about alucard being bi he was 100% consequential to things no drugs or anything where used on him
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