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WarJay77 (Troper Knight)
23rd Mar, 2024 09:53:16 PM

Since this is important missing context, the troper who re-added it (leidbag) didn't create the entire entry, but did contribute some of the info.

This matters because an edit war is not simply "readding a deleted entry".

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9thOutworldsMan Since: Apr, 2015
23rd Mar, 2024 10:01:37 PM

I forgot to add that detail, sorry.

deerhornsaresopretty Since: Jun, 2023
24th Mar, 2024 01:25:09 PM

    The edit in question 
Also a lot of these examples are just cherrypicking. First off there's not a Japanese dub yet so the Japanese viewers are only going off the trailers. Also why does one random Japanese Twitter user making an edit mean it's popular there? Actually, why is there an entire bullet point dedicated to that one Twitter user's edit?

In the edit history, he states that he posted "citations", but most of these are just links to fansubs. I'm pretty sure linking to piracy sites/fansub sites isn't allowed on TV Tropes, and the presence of fansubs doesn't mean it's popular there.

It is true that the original anime is big in those countries, but that doesn't mean they'll like the live action.

I guess the tank thing at least has a news article, but that's one minor thing and only shows up in 2 episodes.

This guy continually claims that Voltes V Legacy has a Japanese fanbase online, but as someone who speaks/reads Japanese, I haven't seen this happening and whenever Voltes V is mentioned, most people are talking about the original anime. Like I said, it doesn't even have a Japanese dub.

The same thing with the "anglophone" point. The person didn't post any proof that Westerners like it, just a fansub link.

deerhornsaresopretty Since: Jun, 2023
24th Mar, 2024 01:27:56 PM

Actually, I just noticed something, these links are from a site called GMA Network. The company that produces Voltes V Legacy is GMA Network. It seems like there's some biased reporting going on.

deerhornsaresopretty Since: Jun, 2023
24th Mar, 2024 01:32:35 PM

Also calling Voltes V a "relatively obscure" show in Japan is just false. It didn't become as popular as the predecessor series (Combattler V) but it's still HUGE in Japan. People still talk about it, Super Robot Wars frequently mentions it, and they still sell new merchandise of it to this day (example). "Weeb magazines" like Animage, Out, Televikun and the like featured advertisements and fanart of it. Tadao Nagahama is a well known director in Japan.

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
24th Mar, 2024 02:29:41 PM

We have a whole thread about this trope and I sadly agree with deerhonrs, But I think the Voltes V anime DOES count as Germans Love David Hasselhoff, for example fellow Mecha Anime Grendizer had higher ratings in Japan Than Mobile Suit Gundam, but its still notably loved more outside of Japan anyway.

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9thOutworldsMan Since: Apr, 2015
24th Mar, 2024 02:35:45 PM

Yes, though the issue isn't the Voltes V anime itself but the live-action one made in the Philippines. I don't think deerhorns was trying to dispute the anime's case though, just pointing out that it's not as obscure in its home country as some claim.

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
24th Mar, 2024 02:52:43 PM

Yeah, I just wanted to point out the anime does count in case its contested. I knew deerhorns left it alone.

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deerhornsaresopretty Since: Jun, 2023
24th Mar, 2024 03:10:27 PM

Oh I def agree the anime counts as GLDH. I've just seen many people say that Voltes V was a flop in Japan, which isn't true. For reference, this is the anime so popular the actual embassy of Cuba tweeted about it.

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
24th Mar, 2024 03:51:53 PM

Wow you know your stuff! I loved the Cuban dub.

We should just use the designated thread for the trope. If anyone wants to use it go here! https://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/posts.php?discussion=16835368600A14898200&page=1

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deerhornsaresopretty Since: Jun, 2023
25th Mar, 2024 01:59:31 AM

Oh, I didn't know you were Cuban, hello from the UK! I'm not Cuban myself but I've heard many things about it from my online friends. I will consult that thread.

AegisP Since: Oct, 2014
25th Mar, 2024 02:54:57 AM

No I am from Paraguay and just REALLY LOVE DUBS. Expecially Latin A Merican ones, I read the articles about Cuba LOVING "Voltus V". The weird part is that I thought I would hate it because I normall hate dubs where a Regional accent is readily apparent.

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